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WAR is how nations file for BANKRUPTCY

 
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Look at the top two pinned threads this morning...

Biden sanctioning Russia and China’s grey war against Taiwan... Add the report on MBS taking out Khashoggi, Israel and Iran taking off the proxy gloves to duke it out for real, Iran enriching uranium to weapons grade, Bitcoin to the moon (folks trying to exit the federal reserve hall of mirrors valuation and price discovery). What are the chances 2021 sees the first Nike’s deployed since Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Now THAT would be some debt repudiation!
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Look at the top two pinned threads this morning...

Biden sanctioning Russia and China’s grey war against Taiwan... Add the report on MBS taking out Khashoggi, Israel and Iran taking off the proxy gloves to duke it out for real, Iran enriching uranium to weapons grade, Bitcoin to the moon (folks trying to exit the federal reserve hall of mirrors valuation and price discovery). What are the chances 2021 sees the first Nike’s deployed since Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Now THAT would be some debt repudiation!
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Nikes! That’s funny - thought I had typed NUKES
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03/02/2021 07:40 AM
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Ok last bump (for now) was hoping for more feedback but maybe my thesis is too obvious? I, of course, thought it was insightful but maybe I missed that class and you all already knew it... there are some smart people on here so maybe that's it.
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Good threads are routinely ignored here. This is something that isn't discussed here enough.
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03/02/2021 07:43 AM
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I will give you that all war is about money, but they tell the plebes other fairy tales so they send their baby boys out to die.
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All offense war is genocide, as well. Defense isn't.
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I will give you that all war is about money, but they tell the plebes other fairy tales so they send their baby boys out to die.
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And incidents are routinely staged as a pretext or justification.
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War may be the how but the military, not war, is the why
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War may be the how but the military, not war, is the why
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Ronald Reagan made us forget why our founding fathers warne against a standing army.
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Ukraine is the 21st century's "sick man of Europe" aka the ottoman empire... Russia is looking to rehypothecate what's left of its collateral some 30 years after its "independence"
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Ukraine is the 21st century's "sick man of Europe" aka the ottoman empire... Russia is looking to rehypothecate what's left of its collateral some 30 years after its "independence"
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Will the unknown comic (Zelensky) be our century's Archduke Franz Ferdinand?
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Civil Wars are also a handy dandy way to repudiate unrepayable debt WHILE clearing the decks for reconstruction AND eliminating excess and or troublesome populations... Same as it ever was...
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OP i believe you are correct. I also believe we are currently in the WAR. It's modern and not like the past and its being waged against the population of 'western' countries.

Pray it does not go kinetic.
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OP i believe you are correct. I also believe we are currently in the WAR. It's modern and not like the past and its being waged against the population of 'western' countries.

Pray it does not go kinetic.
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They are using silent weapons for quiet wars.
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Ukraine is the 21st century's "sick man of Europe" aka the ottoman empire... Russia is looking to rehypothecate what's left of its collateral some 30 years after its "independence"
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Will the unknown comic (Zelensky) be our century's Archduke Franz Ferdinand?
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Hmm - same playbook but different outcome? I did Nazi that coming!
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bump
Doom is not dead.
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Not sure I understand your thinking op...

BK is a rebalancing of the books...the righting of inbalance...the giving up the fight...surrender.

War is the last gasp to avoid BK. There are legal procurez in placd for effective and orxerly liquidations without deztruction. If a country is insolvent, the LAST thing the creditors want is destruction of the assets securing the debt.

War is about control...money is about control. Governmemts and religion are just tools of manifesti g that control
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Absolutely nailed it, op.

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Hmmm...

There will be no ability to prepare, so get right with your god and pray for mercy as the domino effect of bankruptcy-by-war metastasizes worldwide.
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WAR is how countries file for and enforce bankruptcy protections. There is no worldwide Bankruptcy court or law. Accordingly, DEBTORS use war to seize the assets of Creditors in settlement of their debts and, conversely, CREDITORS use war to nullify their debts.

ALL “colonial” wars were merely Debtors seeking to rehypothecate their collateral. WWII was Germany’s attempt to nullify the unsupportable debts levied on them by the Treaty of Versailles. Money does not make the world go round – DEBT does. Even revolutions have at their core bad debt – the hoi polloi seek to throw off the shackles of debt and bondage placed upon them by the elite who have privatized any financial gains for themselves while socializing all their losses and bad bets onto the backs of the citizenry.

If you buy my premise, take a look at this table:

Rank
#1 United States Debt to GDP 104.3% Debt $21,465 Trillion % of world wide debt 31.0%
#2 Japan 237.1% $11,788 17.0%
#3 China 50.6% $6,764 9.8%
#4 Italy 132.2% $2,744 4.0%
#5 France 98.4% $2,736 3.9%
#6 United Kingdom 86.8% $2,455 3.5%
#7 Germany 61.7% $2,438 3.5%

NOW tell me we DON’T have war in our near future. Either the creditors of the world seeking to secure their collateral from their bad investments in U.S. debt OR the U.S. seeking to nullify their loans via destruction and chaos. And remember NONE of the wealthy elite will fight in these wars – they are vouchsafed by their ill- gotten gains – per Balzac, behind every great fortune there is a crime.

One other thought for your consideration. Despite his many faults and (frankly refreshing) boorishness, Trump was the ONLY U.S. President who had personal (via his various pass-through entities) experience with the protections afforded by Bankruptcy law. Add this to his avoidance of entanglements in foreign wars and indeed draw down of troops abroad. Perhaps THAT adds to the vehemence with which his adversaries attacked him – he was interrupting their war machine profits. As General Smedley Butler wrote so long ago WAR IS A RACKET.

It appears that there are only two paths before us: one path leads to despair and utter hopelessness (inflating away debt whereby the debt is fixed and paid back with “inflated” currency impoverishing the citizenry – by the way this ONLY works until your creditors catch on – see Zimbabwe for proof of that) and the other, to total extinction (I do not know with what weapons WWIII will be fought but I can tell you now, WWIV will be fought with sticks and stones), so let us pray that we have the wisdom to choose correctly.

Thanks for reading this far if you have read this far…
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Correct.

But keep it a secret, people love to believe that wars are the will of god, that it's always good versus evil.
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03/25/2022 08:21 AM
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In history, when there is undue economic pressure, starting wars is popular and often felt necessary.

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In history, when there is undue economic pressure, starting wars is popular and often felt necessary.

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We are there - the (nuclear foot)ball is in motion
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It is ALL about the timing - AFTER the midterms so that it can be blamed on the new republican house majority... read me now, believe me later
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WAR is how countries file for and enforce bankruptcy protections. There is no worldwide Bankruptcy court or law. Accordingly, DEBTORS use war to seize the assets of Creditors in settlement of their debts and, conversely, CREDITORS use war to nullify their debts.

ALL “colonial” wars were merely Debtors seeking to rehypothecate their collateral. WWII was Germany’s attempt to nullify the unsupportable debts levied on them by the Treaty of Versailles. Money does not make the world go round – DEBT does. Even revolutions have at their core bad debt – the hoi polloi seek to throw off the shackles of debt and bondage placed upon them by the elite who have privatized any financial gains for themselves while socializing all their losses and bad bets onto the backs of the citizenry.

If you buy my premise, take a look at this table:

Rank
#1 United States Debt to GDP 104.3% Debt $21,465 Trillion % of world wide debt 31.0%
#2 Japan 237.1% $11,788 17.0%
#3 China 50.6% $6,764 9.8%
#4 Italy 132.2% $2,744 4.0%
#5 France 98.4% $2,736 3.9%
#6 United Kingdom 86.8% $2,455 3.5%
#7 Germany 61.7% $2,438 3.5%

NOW tell me we DON’T have war in our near future. Either the creditors of the world seeking to secure their collateral from their bad investments in U.S. debt OR the U.S. seeking to nullify their loans via destruction and chaos. And remember NONE of the wealthy elite will fight in these wars – they are vouchsafed by their ill- gotten gains – per Balzac, behind every great fortune there is a crime.

One other thought for your consideration. Despite his many faults and (frankly refreshing) boorishness, Trump was the ONLY U.S. President who had personal (via his various pass-through entities) experience with the protections afforded by Bankruptcy law. Add this to his avoidance of entanglements in foreign wars and indeed draw down of troops abroad. Perhaps THAT adds to the vehemence with which his adversaries attacked him – he was interrupting their war machine profits. As General Smedley Butler wrote so long ago WAR IS A RACKET.

It appears that there are only two paths before us: one path leads to despair and utter hopelessness (inflating away debt whereby the debt is fixed and paid back with “inflated” currency impoverishing the citizenry – by the way this ONLY works until your creditors catch on – see Zimbabwe for proof of that) and the other, to total extinction (I do not know with what weapons WWIII will be fought but I can tell you now, WWIV will be fought with sticks and stones), so let us pray that we have the wisdom to choose correctly.

Thanks for reading this far if you have read this far…
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Any data on Canada?
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Just check out the pins...

Thread: House Passes Record $858 Billion Defense Policy Bill

Thread: BREAKING: Poland prepares for war!!!

Thread: Global trade collapsing - CNBC

Thread: BREAKING: Serbia is on the brink of war warns the country’s prime minister!!!

Add the Russia-Ukraine war to the mix which is all about Russia seeking to seize collateral for unpaid debts from the old soviet union days that are still being carried on books of USSR v2.x... and you can feel the temperature rising...

We are so close right now as we sleepwalk into the buzz-saw - see you on the other side (maybe)...
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What does it matter when it's controlled by the enemies of mankind and morally bankrupt anyway.
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No, it's how communist governments expand and kill their populations.
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Debt is how democracy's commit suicide
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Debt is how you control a planet
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Hmmm… War as a method of writing off bad debt… I did nazi that connection!
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I know that this was a wall of text - I should have broken it into separately posted pieces...
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No it's fine.

Quite readable.





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