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Poster Handle Sol-tari
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Yes, a number of humans merely follow programming - eventually most think about it.
But much in the way hundreds of years ago it was the morale thing to burn the witch and cheer, or kill and abduct numbers of a neighbour tribe, ideas around good and bad change.
And that's the first time I've said anything of goodness during this exchange.
If the leaders are teaching bad maths, blame the leaders.
Don't yell at the kids because their math is bad.
 Quoting: Sol-tari


All these things still happen; often, you don't even need to call them different things, as many feel compelled to do. Still rarer than the societies or groups which don't do these things are those that do whose members reflect upon them and find themselves to have been mistaken.

Children go down with their parents, because parents own their children. Just because somebody's got to be the bad guy in order to be the good guy doesn't mean that anyone actually will. The job of the centurions is filled, with piles of applications still waiting to be read. As is the job of Caesar. As is the job of Pilate. As is the job of the mob preparing to shout 'crucify him.' No one wants the single job that is actually necessary here. If you say that this is because people are selfish, well, they are about to be taught a lesson for it that history indicates quite clearly they aren't built to learn.
 Quoting: IfYouInsist


Chuckle

If people such as those your describe did not exist, those practices would be much more common.
But at certain times, humanity does reflect.

Parents own their children?
Mate, they don't own me.
Can't speak for your relationship, or how you'd consider your children.

And just look around the board mate, or the world.
Plenty step up to the position, or martyr themselves in the cause of thru various ways
 Quoting: Sol-tari


These things stopped happening in the areas they did because tastes changed and new victims were found. The name changes, but the general outline stays the same. As for parents and children, I don't know if you've got a Parent-Teacher Association meeting where you live, but I've heard from the teachers how the interactions go, and it is certainly more on the parents' side than the teachers that children fail. And after the parents, it is usually the community they belong to and that family's relative place in it. This is how societies work, for better or for worse.

As for martyrs, we weren't talking about martyrs in a general sense. There are many martyrs for causes that aren't even important. Given the apparent gravity of the situation, more than a martyr is called for here, and I'm telling you why the soil isn't right for that kind of flower.
 Quoting: IfYouInsist


Not everyone is interested in victims mate.
Oh you're correct in that regard - teachers, parent, society dynamics.
But when those such as you describe are in charge, how they act echos down to the people - be it conscious knowledge of said events or not.

I'm sure if you were to go back, such would be said by people in those times.
But sometimes you're not their to reach everyone.
Just enough
 
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