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State or non-state actor, someone aimed to change the world and they did. All the same old talk about peace and love, and still this is how people effect change in the world, and they give the excuse that if these things aren't done then everything would still be the same. If the method for causing change remains the same, then nothing has changed or will change at the only level that matters. Hardly worth sacrificing for, is it?
Quoting: IfYouInsist What's the definition of insanity? Doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. Wouldn't be sacrificing for them... But I've met some good people I'd consider it Quoting: Sol-tari You need to distinguish between 'good' and 'useful.' A person you and likely I would refer to as good is actually useful, just as the people we would refer to as evil is harmful. But goodness is a matter of birth--ie, nobility. It's a ruling class designation that applies only to itself. Insisting on people being useful as them being good not only glorifies slavery and wrt self-sacrifice an early death, but reinforces slavery, since if a person isn't good, they are evil, and so you end up punishing them for not being useful. All in service of those who are good by birth, and never cease to be so no matter what they do. Again: why bother? All the arguments have been made. Quoting: IfYouInsist I guess our debate breaks into a simple split. Those you speak of are not in alignment, therefore all are. I disagree. And I don't paint everything with the same brush due to the actions of select few Quoting: Sol-tari It is too rare in group behavior for these things not to be reinforced. Supporting humanity per se supports these dynamics. You speak of human goodness as if human goodness were the point. It isn't, not from the standpoint of culture, society, moral systems, or interpersonal relationships.
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