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Prepper question--Healthiest cooking oil with longest shelf life?

 
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Chinese gutter oil!! Makes me want some fries right now.
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I am a fairly well educated on preps and nutrition--eat paleo mostly.

But i can't figure this one out. If I want to sautee my fish (catch my own saltwater) I usually use coconut oil--6 months shelf life.Sub optimal.

Olive oil is not healthy for cooking, according to my main guy Dr. Jack Kruse. (Says that's why Oprah is fat.)

Is it grapeseed oil? I love avocado oil, but apparently nut seed oils are great raw but not heated.

If I want to stock up on shelf stable oils which are healthy for sauteeing or sometimes frying, what are my choices? Did a lame bing search and only found lamestream nutritionist bs
 Quoting: humbird


Ghee, looong shelf life, very high temp cooking point, no need for refrigeration.
Organic ghee is best.
 Quoting: LTHN.


...and quite healthy to consume.
 Quoting: LTHN.


And grass fed.

Purefoods, I believe it’s called, is possibly the best.
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Nothing to add other than this is A GREAT post. I love posts like these. OP thank you for bringing this topic up.

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Another video on making Ghee. His oven is 350F instead of 250F. He strains his in cheesecloth, but basically its the same principle.


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Nothing to add other than this is A GREAT post. I love posts like these. OP thank you for bringing this topic up.

Drew
 Quoting: drumhead138


you are welcome! It helped me a lot
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Coconut oil is mighty handy as if you have it on hand, you can mix it with cocoa and a liquid sweetener like maple or birch syrup and make chocolate candy.

Coconut oil is a natural germicidal and is painless when applied so sure would treat a troubling wound. Plus it pull stains from teeth and then sharply reduces mouth irritation from bleeding gums. It will kill that bacteria and Strep mutants can deposit on heart valves so dental care and heart disease are entwined.
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Yeah, I have made lots of candy & raw cookies & raw pie crusts (chopped dates & walnuts with coconut oil) with coconut oil.

it gets hard in the winter & softer in the summer.
I use the liquid stuff as butter on popped corn.

I love the stuff.
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I am a fairly well educated on preps and nutrition--eat paleo mostly.

But i can't figure this one out. If I want to sautee my fish (catch my own saltwater) I usually use coconut oil--6 months shelf life.Sub optimal.

Olive oil is not healthy for cooking, according to my main guy Dr. Jack Kruse. (Says that's why Oprah is fat.)

Is it grapeseed oil? I love avocado oil, but apparently nut seed oils are great raw but not heated.

If I want to stock up on shelf stable oils which are healthy for sauteeing or sometimes frying, what are my choices? Did a lame bing search and only found lamestream nutritionist bs
 Quoting: humbird


Ghee, looong shelf life, very high temp cooking point, no need for refrigeration.
Organic ghee is best.
 Quoting: LTHN.


...and quite healthy to consume.
 Quoting: LTHN.


Thanks! Ordering now
 Quoting: humbird


Make your own (search for a video--it's easy--store in canning jars)! The store-bought stuff sometimes smells nasty.
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Peanut oil is the only oil needed for cooking.
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Coconut oil is mighty handy as if you have it on hand, you can mix it with cocoa and a liquid sweetener like maple or birch syrup and make chocolate candy.

Coconut oil is a natural germicidal and is painless when applied so sure would treat a troubling wound. Plus it pull stains from teeth and then sharply reduces mouth irritation from bleeding gums. It will kill that bacteria and Strep mutants can deposit on heart valves so dental care and heart disease are entwined.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66297002


Love coconut oil. But, as I mentioned, 6 month shelf life.
 Quoting: humbird


I've been using a 5 gallon bucked of organic, cold pressed (no scent or taste) for years and it's just fine.
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I would guess lard?
 Quoting: Malu nli


Agreed, lard.
 Quoting: LightAnchor


Make certain it's NOT hydrogenated. The stuff in the white bucket in the meat department of grocery stores is nasty. Read the label.
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Ghee and avocado oil.
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Gutter oil
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OP as an answer to your question, in all honesty there are NO fats or cooking oils that will last longer than a year unless stored in the freezer. So your best bet for the long term is to have your own renewable fat supply. If you live with a little land you can raise pigs, which are the best way to produce fat. Before the 1920's pigs were bred to be extremely fatty, the fat was rendered into lard and sold. Now modern pig breeds are very lean, you still get a lot of fat but not like the old breeds. You can still find these old breeds if you google Heritage Pig Breeds.

Cows are a good source of high quality fat but you feed a cow for 2 years, whereas a pig is only 6-8 months, and instead of acres of pasturage a pig can be fed waste foods and silage, or let loose to roam the woods if your lucky enough to have acorn trees.

My personal choice (because I live in the country) would be a milk cow breed that produces a lot of butter fat. That would be a jersey or Guernsey. A bonus is they are gentle and smaller than a Holstein. If you have 2 acres of pasturage you can have a milk cow, or you could do less and buy hay. But a milk cow is a lot of work. Milking twice a day every day. Not to mention day to day care. However a milk cow will give you tons of butter, and milk and cream.

Of course I know that this wont be possible for most people, but it's something to think about.
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Our ancestors ate more nuts as that was a lipid source that lasted. So the typical ubiquitous one is acorns as hardly anyone harvests them and hickory nuts similarly don't typically get harvested. But doing so is going to impact your squirrel hunting and snaring, right?

The indigenous would either bury them in riverbanks and so slowly leach out the tannins or boiling with many rinses to eliminate it faster. You can steam a small amount fairly quickly. Don't ever do this over a porcelain sink as it will stain it something fierce. You will never get that scrubbed out.

Most likely this strategy would keep your family alive that and maple or birch syrup. That is sugar for your blood glucose and protein and lipids.

Black walnut husks have iodine in them and you would sorely need it as you wouldn't get it in salt. And pregnant ladies without iodine get babies with cretinism.

Those husks produce a black dye which would be essential for soldiers' clothing. To get dye to "fix" you use a mordant like salt or urea.

Those husks in water have a chemical called jugalone and that makes worms suffocate so that is how they would get a bunch instead of digging for them. It also was used by the indigenous to get fish as it interferes with their till respiration.

Never ever ever plant a black walnut near most other plants as it inhibits their growth. That will mess up an entire garden.

Our ancestors were smart people who were practical and wrote stuff down and taught their children to have some way to survive.

They could not just buy stuff at Walmart. They might only go into town twice: in spring when the snows melt and they were low on everything and after the harvest when they sold crops and livestock. Otherwise they didn't have the money. They would barter and cut deals to pay at these times.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58999182


Excellent post.

I learned this all the ahrd way with a giant pecan tree in my back yard.

Tried planting some pine trees. Dead in a couple months.
Tried planting some palm trees. Dead in a couple months.
Planted a small garden. It was a race to see what could die the fastest. :)

Finally looked it up and learned about juglones.

Wax Myrtle makes juglones also, so when I planted that, it did fine, as did an oak tree I planted back there. The pecan tree is slowly dying.

I guess all nut trees make juglones, used as a sort of chemical warfare by the plants to kill their competition for soil and sun space in the wild.

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Olive oil is perfectly healthy for cooking and your Dr Jack is full of shit.


But to answer your question, sprouting dry seeds yields good oil.
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Our ancestors ate more nuts as that was a lipid source that lasted. So the typical ubiquitous one is acorns as hardly anyone harvests them and hickory nuts similarly don't typically get harvested. But doing so is going to impact your squirrel hunting and snaring, right?

The indigenous would either bury them in riverbanks and so slowly leach out the tannins or boiling with many rinses to eliminate it faster. You can steam a small amount fairly quickly. Don't ever do this over a porcelain sink as it will stain it something fierce. You will never get that scrubbed out.

Most likely this strategy would keep your family alive that and maple or birch syrup. That is sugar for your blood glucose and protein and lipids.

Black walnut husks have iodine in them and you would sorely need it as you wouldn't get it in salt. And pregnant ladies without iodine get babies with cretinism.

Those husks produce a black dye which would be essential for soldiers' clothing. To get dye to "fix" you use a mordant like salt or urea.

Those husks in water have a chemical called jugalone and that makes worms suffocate so that is how they would get a bunch instead of digging for them. It also was used by the indigenous to get fish as it interferes with their till respiration.

Never ever ever plant a black walnut near most other plants as it inhibits their growth. That will mess up an entire garden.

Our ancestors were smart people who were practical and wrote stuff down and taught their children to have some way to survive.

They could not just buy stuff at Walmart. They might only go into town twice: in spring when the snows melt and they were low on everything and after the harvest when they sold crops and livestock. Otherwise they didn't have the money. They would barter and cut deals to pay at these times.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58999182


Excellent post.

I learned this all the ahrd way with a giant pecan tree in my back yard.

Tried planting some pine trees. Dead in a couple months.
Tried planting some palm trees. Dead in a couple months.
Planted a small garden. It was a race to see what could die the fastest. :)

Finally looked it up and learned about juglones.

Wax Myrtle makes juglones also, so when I planted that, it did fine, as did an oak tree I planted back there. The pecan tree is slowly dying.

I guess all nut trees make juglones, used as a sort of chemical warfare by the plants to kill their competition for soil and sun space in the wild.
 Quoting: Justme C'est Moi


SO STUPID

None of this crap has anything to do with edible oil.
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Re: Prepper question--Healthiest cooking oil with longest shelf life?
Our ancestors ate more nuts as that was a lipid source that lasted. So the typical ubiquitous one is acorns as hardly anyone harvests them and hickory nuts similarly don't typically get harvested. But doing so is going to impact your squirrel hunting and snaring, right?

The indigenous would either bury them in riverbanks and so slowly leach out the tannins or boiling with many rinses to eliminate it faster. You can steam a small amount fairly quickly. Don't ever do this over a porcelain sink as it will stain it something fierce. You will never get that scrubbed out.

Most likely this strategy would keep your family alive that and maple or birch syrup. That is sugar for your blood glucose and protein and lipids.

Black walnut husks have iodine in them and you would sorely need it as you wouldn't get it in salt. And pregnant ladies without iodine get babies with cretinism.

Those husks produce a black dye which would be essential for soldiers' clothing. To get dye to "fix" you use a mordant like salt or urea.

Those husks in water have a chemical called jugalone and that makes worms suffocate so that is how they would get a bunch instead of digging for them. It also was used by the indigenous to get fish as it interferes with their till respiration.

Never ever ever plant a black walnut near most other plants as it inhibits their growth. That will mess up an entire garden.

Our ancestors were smart people who were practical and wrote stuff down and taught their children to have some way to survive.

They could not just buy stuff at Walmart. They might only go into town twice: in spring when the snows melt and they were low on everything and after the harvest when they sold crops and livestock. Otherwise they didn't have the money. They would barter and cut deals to pay at these times.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58999182


Excellent post.

I learned this all the ahrd way with a giant pecan tree in my back yard.

Tried planting some pine trees. Dead in a couple months.
Tried planting some palm trees. Dead in a couple months.
Planted a small garden. It was a race to see what could die the fastest. :)

Finally looked it up and learned about juglones.

Wax Myrtle makes juglones also, so when I planted that, it did fine, as did an oak tree I planted back there. The pecan tree is slowly dying.

I guess all nut trees make juglones, used as a sort of chemical warfare by the plants to kill their competition for soil and sun space in the wild.
 Quoting: Justme C'est Moi


SO STUPID

None of this crap has anything to do with edible oil.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79832313

You little whiney piss ant. Go away. The grown ups are talkin'.





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