2 acre AI controlled vertical farm better than 720 acre flat farm!

A farmer with a big budget (comparable to the linked video) could use a solar/battery tractor, or of course a team of horses, etc.

thats because all you idiots are talking chemistry and i am talking the entirety of an ecosystem. idiots like you have myopic syndrome. you can only see the single thing you think you know, and you dont even realize it has very little impact on the entire ecosystem. You couldnt even begin to understand.

You do know that farms, even "organic" ones, are not part of any ecosystem, right?

Agriculture is an "unnatural" activity, and it subverts ecosystems utterly.

So we can stop sending what we grow into cities.

Great news. They can take care of themselves now and stop burdening the rest of us.

True. But you'd still have toxic runoff polluting waterways, deforestation, etc.

aaaaaaaaand again you show your inability to comprehend abstract thoughts. I used the word "ecosystem" in reference to the entirety of a system. not any particular system. just the entirety of ANY system. that is why i used the qualifier AN. AN ecosystem

So plants require the macronutrients: nitrogen (N), phosphorus (P), potassium (K), calcium (Ca), sulfur (S), magnesium (Mg), carbon (C), oxygen (O), hydrogen (H)

And the micronutrients (or trace minerals): iron (Fe), boron (B), chlorine (Cl), manganese (Mn), zinc (Zn), copper (Cu), molybdenum (Mo), nickel (Ni)

What does your "organic" soil have in it that's not listed here, and why is that critical for nutrition? Genuine question, as you claim to have knowledge in this area.

Oh I understand.

Plants are not even capable of using organic compounds. This is why your"entire ecosystem" is necessary to break those dirty organic compounds down to their basic elemental (non-organic) plant available state.

Why is non-organic hydroponic farming superior?

Because the nutrients are already in plant available form.

No need for bacteria, or fungi.

You only get toxic runoff with chemical-enhanced farming.

I'm not lying, dumbass, I'm talking basic chemistry. Obviously no one is pumping boron in as a straight element.

Given that taxpayers subsidize farmers (and most taxpayers are in cities) I'm sure they'd like to be rid of you.

Your PROBLEM son is you are a DEAD MATTER MATERIALIST.

You don't understand dick..

Mr Dull is 100% right.

An analogy might be a farm feed fish vs a 600lb tuna that spent years in the Deep Pacific.

It's probably safe to say that you are basically INCAPABLE of comprehending WTF we are talking about.

:)

According to you a 2 acre vertical farm can produce the same amount of food as 720 acres.

So why would anyone in a city need to import food?

Granted they would need access to mines and oil to produce the chemicals to feed their plants,but no one would have a problem with that.

If you have never grown your own food and do not understand what heirloom plants are feel free to eat your lab-grown food and let an AI manage it for you.

Thanks for stealing my idea OP and the shitbag site he runs. I had that dream. Not you. Fuck off - no really fuck off.

You're right, I don't believe in Life Force or the Ether or whatever fairytale you believe in. Dead matter materialist. What does that even mean?

Hard to believe there are people smarter than you in the world, I know. But that's how it is anyway.

2 acres of perfect GMO cancer. that's for sure

am i talking to children? it isnt superior. i will ask you like i asked the other idiot. explain to me the exact mechanism by which plants turn light into energy. until you can do this STFU because you dont know shit

This paper goes into detail, and is what I assume you mean: [link to www.sciencedirect.com (secure)]

But again, what is the difference between a pyridinic-N and pyrrolic-N etc that is produced using synthetic means as opposed to an "organic" one. I'll answer my own question - there is no difference.

I think you're caught up in magical thinking here. I'll admit that there is much to be learned from traditional sustainable farming techniques, but calling one set of molecules bad or inadequate because they're synthesized, is just fantasy.

I know so much more than you, simpleton. I'm still laughing my ass off at your claim that "Only organically grown food will have all the nutrients required".


This is you:

https://imgur.com/a/xaHa6Dt

quantum entanglement is real junior.

Tell me you are kidding!

You should probably learn to speak and write in English first. Just sayin'.

This is HUGE fun.

What is YOUR EXPERIENCE actually growing something?

am i talking to children? it isnt superior. i will ask you like i asked the other idiot. explain to me the exact mechanism by which plants turn light into energy. until you can do this STFU because you dont know shit

They grow 4 crops.

All of them leafy greens. None flowering or fruit-bearing.

Arugala,Kale(not to maturity),lettuce,and Mizuna.

At least according to their website.

They have tried to produce tomatoes and thus far they can not make them commercially viable. Per the video the original posters link leads to.

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