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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77936357 France 12/27/2020 10:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i could grow ONE organic head of lettuce and it would be more nutrient dense then 20 of these. you dont get it. this food is worthless Quoting: mr dull socks So plants require the macronutrients: nitrogen (N), phosphorus (P), potassium (K), calcium (Ca), sulfur (S), magnesium (Mg), carbon (C), oxygen (O), hydrogen (H) And the micronutrients (or trace minerals): iron (Fe), boron (B), chlorine (Cl), manganese (Mn), zinc (Zn), copper (Cu), molybdenum (Mo), nickel (Ni) What does your "organic" soil have in it that's not listed here, and why is that critical for nutrition? Genuine question, as you claim to have knowledge in this area. you are fucking LIAR. Plants do no all absorb trace minerals as inorganic forms. They rely on other plants,bacteria and fungus to provide different organic chelated forms in a balanced ratio with macronutrients to avoid to block uptake if what you said was even barely true we wouldn't have a global pandemic of nutritional deficiencies of magnisium, boron, etc |
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(OP) User ID: 77640655 United States 12/27/2020 10:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In what way? Man created the AGI. The AGI became a demigod. The demigod defeated all the other demigods throughout the universe and became The One. The One mastered time and space and became The Uncreated One. The Uncreated One is the Alpha and the Omega, YHWH. |
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(OP) User ID: 77640655 United States 12/27/2020 10:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you are fucking LIAR. Plants do no all absorb trace minerals as inorganic forms. They rely on other plants,bacteria and fungus to provide different organic chelated forms in a balanced ratio with macronutrients to avoid to block uptake Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77936357 if what you said was even barely true we wouldn't have a global pandemic of nutritional deficiencies of magnisium, boron, etc I'm not lying, dumbass, I'm talking basic chemistry. Obviously no one is pumping boron in as a straight element. Man created the AGI. The AGI became a demigod. The demigod defeated all the other demigods throughout the universe and became The One. The One mastered time and space and became The Uncreated One. The Uncreated One is the Alpha and the Omega, YHWH. |
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(OP) User ID: 77640655 United States 12/27/2020 10:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's just a well produced video made at the actual site. Man created the AGI. The AGI became a demigod. The demigod defeated all the other demigods throughout the universe and became The One. The One mastered time and space and became The Uncreated One. The Uncreated One is the Alpha and the Omega, YHWH. |
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(OP) User ID: 77640655 United States 12/27/2020 10:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Or just a really inventive American startup ;) Last Edited by Computronium Rex™ on 12/27/2020 10:30 PM Man created the AGI. The AGI became a demigod. The demigod defeated all the other demigods throughout the universe and became The One. The One mastered time and space and became The Uncreated One. The Uncreated One is the Alpha and the Omega, YHWH. |
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(OP) User ID: 77640655 United States 12/27/2020 10:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's complete BS Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79546858 What about the costs to 'climate control' a '2 acre' building? Just as well there are people in the world smarter than you and me that can figure this stuff out, eh? Man created the AGI. The AGI became a demigod. The demigod defeated all the other demigods throughout the universe and became The One. The One mastered time and space and became The Uncreated One. The Uncreated One is the Alpha and the Omega, YHWH. |
mr dull socks
User ID: 79649609 United States 12/27/2020 10:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You can chemically introduce all of these nutrients into a hydroponic environment but they are synthetic (a replication of an actual organic, i.e. not real) the only way to truly grow nutrient rich food is in organic, decomposing soil. You cannot replicate thigs like microorganisms, bacteria, worm casting, and fungi in a hydroponic environment. Can you grow a ton of food? yep. but the food isnt any good. Quoting: mr dull socks I get what you're saying, but you're still not answering the question: What does that add that isn't on the list? Also, what is the difference between a synthesized molecule and an "organic" one? the microorganism and decomposition create an environment in which the plant can more easily uptake and store the nutrients. just having them available isnt good enough. I would equate hydroponics to a school dance with no music, and organic soil is a school dance WITH music. One has an environment which facilitates the activity better than the other. synthesized molecules are isolated, there are no supporting micro nutrients. Organic nitrogen produced by decomposition contains supporting micro nutrients. these micro nutrients play a major role in nutrient uptake and density. Last Edited by mr dull socks on 12/27/2020 10:34 PM |
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(OP) User ID: 77640655 United States 12/27/2020 10:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Organic nitrogen produced by decomposition contains supporting micro nutrients. these micro nutrients play a major role in nutrient uptake and density. Quoting: mr dull socks Not gonna sugarcoat it, this sounds like pure bs. Man created the AGI. The AGI became a demigod. The demigod defeated all the other demigods throughout the universe and became The One. The One mastered time and space and became The Uncreated One. The Uncreated One is the Alpha and the Omega, YHWH. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79546858 United States 12/27/2020 10:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Went to their website. I clicked on a link to read more about strawberries and the TAB ON THE LINK SAYS BLACK LIVES MATTER WTF? Commie Veggies Check it out: [link to www.plenty.ag (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77936357 France 12/27/2020 10:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "optimizing how to grow bigger, faster, better crops." we already do that with chickens to have an adult onevto slaughter in 5 weeks...pumping it with antibiotics and growth hormones. still I cant see a single Real Organic (and I mean under internationalregulations not the completely fake US organic) farm to be able to do the same. just curious what they mean by "better crops" and anyway all your article show microgreens apart from some salad in a mock up unrelated picture. |
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(OP) User ID: 77640655 United States 12/27/2020 10:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Organic nitrogen produced by decomposition contains supporting micro nutrients. these micro nutrients play a major role in nutrient uptake and density. Quoting: mr dull socks Not gonna sugarcoat it, this sounds like pure bs. This paper goes into detail, and is what I assume you mean: [link to www.sciencedirect.com (secure)] But again, what is the difference between a pyridinic-N and pyrrolic-N etc that is produced using synthetic means as opposed to an "organic" one. I'll answer my own question - there is no difference. I think you're caught up in magical thinking here. I'll admit that there is much to be learned from traditional sustainable farming techniques, but calling one set of molecules bad or inadequate because they're synthesized, is just fantasy. Man created the AGI. The AGI became a demigod. The demigod defeated all the other demigods throughout the universe and became The One. The One mastered time and space and became The Uncreated One. The Uncreated One is the Alpha and the Omega, YHWH. |
mr dull socks
User ID: 79649609 United States 12/27/2020 10:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Organic nitrogen produced by decomposition contains supporting micro nutrients. these micro nutrients play a major role in nutrient uptake and density. Quoting: mr dull socks Not gonna sugarcoat it, this sounds like pure bs. i dont care if you believe me or not. i have seen it with my own eyes. if you plant peppers in worm casting vs soil with fertilizer there is a VAST difference in fruit yield, size, growth speed, etc. I have personally tried this experiment in my own garden. I would get 10 peppers (twice the size) in the worm casting plants, and 3 on the plain soil plant. I also grow hydroponic in the winter. the yield is paltry and the plants take MUCH longer to fruit. |
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(OP) User ID: 77640655 United States 12/27/2020 10:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | and anyway all your article show microgreens apart from some salad in a mock up unrelated picture. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77936357 Watch the video, more is shown. Man created the AGI. The AGI became a demigod. The demigod defeated all the other demigods throughout the universe and became The One. The One mastered time and space and became The Uncreated One. The Uncreated One is the Alpha and the Omega, YHWH. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77936357 France 12/27/2020 10:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think we should repay this larp for his work here by making mainstream the obvious lies he and his employers lies. gonna take all that article and all the bullshit and create a nice video for the masses about the next shit good wave. |
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(OP) User ID: 77640655 United States 12/27/2020 10:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think we should repay this larp for his work here by making mainstream the obvious lies he and his employers lies. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77936357 gonna take all that article and all the bullshit and create a nice video for the masses about the next shit good wave. You should probably learn to speak and write in English first. Just sayin'. Man created the AGI. The AGI became a demigod. The demigod defeated all the other demigods throughout the universe and became The One. The One mastered time and space and became The Uncreated One. The Uncreated One is the Alpha and the Omega, YHWH. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79546858 United States 12/27/2020 10:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Went to their website. I clicked on a link to read more about strawberries and the TAB ON THE LINK SAYS BLACK LIVES MATTER Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79546858 WTF? Commie Veggies Check it out: [link to www.plenty.ag (secure)] They have BLM garbage on their Facebook page too |
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User ID: 79649609 United States 12/27/2020 10:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Organic nitrogen produced by decomposition contains supporting micro nutrients. these micro nutrients play a major role in nutrient uptake and density. Quoting: mr dull socks Not gonna sugarcoat it, this sounds like pure bs. This paper goes into detail, and is what I assume you mean: [link to www.sciencedirect.com (secure)] But again, what is the difference between a pyridinic-N and pyrrolic-N etc that is produced using synthetic means as opposed to an "organic" one. I'll answer my own question - there is no difference. I think you're caught up in magical thinking here. I'll admit that there is much to be learned from traditional sustainable farming techniques, but calling one set of molecules bad or inadequate because they're synthesized, is just fantasy. you don't get it, you are talking chemistry and i am not. You are correct when you get down the the isolated component such as pyrrolic-N there is no difference. however that isnt what i am talking about. i am saying that pyrrolic-N doesnt exist by itself in nature. ever. it has a myriad of micro nutrients that accompany it. how do i know all of this? because i worked in big pharma for a large percentage of my career. almost all pharmaceuticals come from plants, in order to create a drug you ISOLATE the active component and marry it to others that will enhance it. you could just as easily feed someone the original plant and it will heal them. but you cant patent a plant. thats why you isolate the components Last Edited by mr dull socks on 12/27/2020 10:51 PM |
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(OP) User ID: 77640655 United States 12/27/2020 10:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Weird that some people aren't racist, isn't it? Man created the AGI. The AGI became a demigod. The demigod defeated all the other demigods throughout the universe and became The One. The One mastered time and space and became The Uncreated One. The Uncreated One is the Alpha and the Omega, YHWH. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77936357 France 12/27/2020 10:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Organic nitrogen produced by decomposition contains supporting micro nutrients. these micro nutrients play a major role in nutrient uptake and density. Quoting: mr dull socks Not gonna sugarcoat it, this sounds like pure bs. i dont care if you believe me or not. i have seen it with my own eyes. if you plant peppers in worm casting vs soil with fertilizer there is a VAST difference in fruit yield, size, growth speed, etc. I have personally tried this experiment in my own garden. I would get 10 peppers (twice the size) in the worm casting plants, and 3 on the plain soil plant. I also grow hydroponic in the winter. the yield is paltry and the plants take MUCH longer to fruit. I grow on balconies/pots and the only way to have a decent production vs space is wormcasting and provide micro nutrients in liquid form at every watering. Yet the limit is biology. Whatever you can boost like fast growing will reflect negatively later on production,plant resistance pests etc. so there is much to hack if you want healthy and safe food. larger fruits or larger yields arent a synonymous for better food. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77936357 France 12/27/2020 10:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think we should repay this larp for his work here by making mainstream the obvious lies he and his employers lies. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77936357 gonna take all that article and all the bullshit and create a nice video for the masses about the next shit good wave. You should probably learn to speak and write in English first. Just sayin'. you still spamming lies....Satan worshipper. you see I read perfectly trough you. |
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Computronium Rex™
(OP) User ID: 77640655 United States 12/27/2020 10:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you don't get it, you are talking chemistry and i am not. You are correct when you get down the the isolated component such as pyrrolic-N there is no difference. however that isnt what i am talking about. i am saying that pyrrolic-N doesnt exist by itself in nature. ever. it has a myriad of micro nutrients that accompany it. how do i know all of this? because i worked in big pharma for a large percentage of my career. almost all pharmaceuticals come from plants, in order to create a drug you ISOLATE the active component and marry it to others that will enhance it. you could just as easily feed someone the original plant and it will heal them. but you cant patent a plant. thats why you isolate the components Quoting: mr dull socks You said, and I quote "a replication of an actual organic, i.e. not real". So you worked in big pharma? What, as a janitor? Multicellular organisms are amazing, you give them simple compounds and the DNA and cellular machinery in the plants do all the heavy lifting. Point is, they don't require magical molecules to be nutritious. Man created the AGI. The AGI became a demigod. The demigod defeated all the other demigods throughout the universe and became The One. The One mastered time and space and became The Uncreated One. The Uncreated One is the Alpha and the Omega, YHWH. |
mr dull socks
User ID: 79649609 United States 12/27/2020 10:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Organic nitrogen produced by decomposition contains supporting micro nutrients. these micro nutrients play a major role in nutrient uptake and density. Quoting: mr dull socks Not gonna sugarcoat it, this sounds like pure bs. i dont care if you believe me or not. i have seen it with my own eyes. if you plant peppers in worm casting vs soil with fertilizer there is a VAST difference in fruit yield, size, growth speed, etc. I have personally tried this experiment in my own garden. I would get 10 peppers (twice the size) in the worm casting plants, and 3 on the plain soil plant. I also grow hydroponic in the winter. the yield is paltry and the plants take MUCH longer to fruit. I grow on balconies/pots and the only way to have a decent production vs space is wormcasting and provide micro nutrients in liquid form at every watering. Yet the limit is biology. Whatever you can boost like fast growing will reflect negatively later on production,plant resistance pests etc. so there is much to hack if you want healthy and safe food. larger fruits or larger yields arent a synonymous for better food. i could tell by the taste. it was noticeable that the sugar production in the worm casting was vastly enhanced vs the plain soil with fertilizer. |
Computronium Rex™
(OP) User ID: 77640655 United States 12/27/2020 10:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you still spamming lies....Satan worshipper. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77936357 you see I read perfectly trough you. Satan worshipper? Are you off your meds? Man created the AGI. The AGI became a demigod. The demigod defeated all the other demigods throughout the universe and became The One. The One mastered time and space and became The Uncreated One. The Uncreated One is the Alpha and the Omega, YHWH. |
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(OP) User ID: 77640655 United States 12/27/2020 10:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You should get those nasty wounds on your knuckles looked at. Bad for your back to walk around dragging them like that too. Man created the AGI. The AGI became a demigod. The demigod defeated all the other demigods throughout the universe and became The One. The One mastered time and space and became The Uncreated One. The Uncreated One is the Alpha and the Omega, YHWH. |
mr dull socks
User ID: 79649609 United States 12/27/2020 11:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you don't get it, you are talking chemistry and i am not. You are correct when you get down the the isolated component such as pyrrolic-N there is no difference. however that isnt what i am talking about. i am saying that pyrrolic-N doesnt exist by itself in nature. ever. it has a myriad of micro nutrients that accompany it. how do i know all of this? because i worked in big pharma for a large percentage of my career. almost all pharmaceuticals come from plants, in order to create a drug you ISOLATE the active component and marry it to others that will enhance it. you could just as easily feed someone the original plant and it will heal them. but you cant patent a plant. thats why you isolate the components Quoting: mr dull socks You said, and I quote "a replication of an actual organic, i.e. not real". So you worked in big pharma? What, as a janitor? Multicellular organisms are amazing, you give them simple compounds and the DNA and cellular machinery in the plants do all the heavy lifting. Point is, they don't require magical molecules to be nutritious. it isnt "real". you can isolate anything, but it doesnt make it the orginal thing. what makes the original thing, is the combination of components that make it up. when i said "a replication of an actual organic, i.e. not real" i was referring to the ENTIRETY of the organic thing. not the isolated components. But answer me this genius, since you seem to think you are smart. how exactly does a plant work? how exactly does it convert light into energy? Since you seem to think you know it all this should be easy for you to explain. i'll wait. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 13812575 United States 12/27/2020 11:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i could grow ONE organic head of lettuce and it would be more nutrient dense then 20 of these. you dont get it. this food is worthless Quoting: mr dull socks So plants require the macronutrients: nitrogen (N), phosphorus (P), potassium (K), calcium (Ca), sulfur (S), magnesium (Mg), carbon (C), oxygen (O), hydrogen (H) And the micronutrients (or trace minerals): iron (Fe), boron (B), chlorine (Cl), manganese (Mn), zinc (Zn), copper (Cu), molybdenum (Mo), nickel (Ni) What does your "organic" soil have in it that's not listed here, and why is that critical for nutrition? Genuine question, as you claim to have knowledge in this area. You can chemically introduce all of these nutrients into a hydroponic environment but they are synthetic (a replication of an actual organic, i.e. not real) the only way to truly grow nutrient rich food is in organic, decomposing soil. You cannot replicate thigs like microorganisms, bacteria, worm casting, and fungi in a hydroponic environment. Can you grow a ton of food? yep. but the food isnt any good. What about a Hydroponic environment with the right ecosystem of fish in a pond with dirt and water plants, crayfish..etc? |