Learn the True Nature of Your Reality from the Messenger

I got out of Crypto about 9 months ago or so at BTC 10k, partially at the behest of "The Builder" as to not support the "Agents of Chaos".

I had 7 BTC. Thanks to that advice im out 7×(60-10).
Lost potential of $350,000.

Only to get ghosted....



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Crypto is slippery. Well it use to be. I think thats one reason builder didnt push it. Holding phyz is solid. I was eyeing BTC as it passed 24k at $1300~. Fedcoin is on its way. Savior stable coin to the last propped up wheel of BTC?

A digital merger is here but the foundation is phyz. I cashed out ETH around $1200 and immediately put it in the next thing. I am still playing a decent role in IOTA, but if BTC comes down so will everything. Dust settles to fed coin risings.

Crypto for me is no longer a daily watch. It sits and I am building a X empire in a new discovered hobby.

But I still need to look into NTFs.

I could almost write a bit on how all readers here, ghosted Chaol and others on other side. Chaol be sipping tea and reading books over in reality beyond physical body. Ofc its an entertainment piece, No-Ch, Jesse, and other X-humans aren't dilly dally in a picnic waiting for the readers here.

What's your new hobby?

I have a thing for physical bodies

My initial vision was to build a cardboard paradise. Little did I know, dealing with raw cards I would be exposed to cardboard parasites. I came down with cardboard fever. Itch to rip open fresh wax. I knew there must be some retail in stock in the wilderness. I saw the grind of setting afoot in the wild. I studied the best, and picked up on their habits. RCs 1st autos, it was written.

It's online again.
[link to prospery.org (secure)]
[link to prospery.org (secure)]

Thank you so much, builder!
This thread and the information on the website is absolutely vital and of the utmost importance for me personally..

I wonder if you are familiar with this-

[link to www.scribd.com (secure)]

I thank you deeply for your care and effort. Much love to you!

With respect,

My pleasure :)



The Cult's activities certainly are amusing, wouldn't you say?

They're becoming more and more irrelevant as we move closer. Prepare accordingly.

Could you tell me, specifically, what I wrote that you interpreted as such advice?

If you believe that I suggested, "don't support the agents of Chaos", then why stop at crypto? Why post on this website, use the internet, use their devices, use their electricity, etc?

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34 days till 10 year call on non-abstract gold price. Can we get another 10 year spree?

Hows timeline looking.

Discovery of the price would bring Maria from the other room to give more in-depth responses again?

How are you feeling about this decision now?

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I found the original "Notes..." threads and thought I was 12 years too late. Found this account as a continuation, turns out I'm only about three months too late! An especially frustrating realization seeing that I discovered the original threads ~4 months ago.

All ways at the wrong place at the wrong time. Or perhaps the right place, wrong time. Or: wrong place, right time. Any combo that's not right:right. Though I suppose that's just my interpretation of myself and a re-presentation of my impatience. Probably the road block keeping me from perceiving what I'd really rather perceive, at least in part.

This content has revolutionized my way of thinking, my way of interacting with my reality. I'm thankful for that, but I could use direction in perceiving what I want, I can't figure it out. Hope to talk to you

I'm content with it. There are no mistakes, only ultimately less desirable paths untaken.

I am working on a multi-million dollar development project now that I can guarantee I would not be involved in (discovered) if I was still involved in crypto.

While it definitely burned and still does, I'm careful how I define this interaction in my perspective.

Late for/to what?

I like to push OP on inconsistencies and BTC is a rando plot twist like the alleged "Emerald City".

OP said he came to this frequency of reality from another dimension of sorts. An "alternate reality" via a shifting of perspectives, which sounds akin to something Robert Monroe describes doing in his 1st book on "astral projection". Original OP supposedly phased over and inhabited the perspective of someone that was already here in this reality. The current OP is the blended version of those two. Or rather the this worlds original denizen after transforming from the impressions left by the phased over entity. This is why Chaol is no longer used.

But Chaol said he phased over with someone named Metis. Metis has never posted but we are told he is the one that developed bitcoin. On top of this OP claims to have a billion USD worth of BTC. The timing of the original thread and the timing of the release of bitcoin suggest this is maybe possible.

If METIS invented BTC, then it was suggested he was cooperating with The powers that be. As if him and Chaol were opposing forces that our reality was being exposed to. It was left unclear which one represented Chaos and which represented order.

OP has suggested spending his BTC on a project called Prospery. There is currently nothing physically tangible to show for any planning efforts henceforth. So I just like to harass him once in a while. Like maybe your the messiah or whatever, but... still pretty rude to leave us hanging.

I'm just excited to see whether he ends up as a megalomaniac in his mom's basement or an advanced spiritual being capable of teleportation and other siddhis. Real popcorn kinda stuff. So pull out the American cheese and get yourself a turkey sammy. Cuz entertainment is on the horizon...

Interacting with Chaol directly. Interacting with this OP would be a very close second to that, so that as well

Happy to help :)

You can change it by changing how you relate to the things (and people, processes, events, etc) in your reality. When you perceive something, you're not perceiving it directly but perceiving relationships of 'other' things that 'result' in what you seem to be perceiving.

Change how you relate and you change what you perceive.

You're talking to Chaol now. But I no longer use the name just like I no longer use other names. It's more of a distraction that would provide little benefit towards the direction I'm headed.

I created roles for myself to resolve reality-puzzles, then willingly forgot that I was playing the roles in order to re-member who and what I really am. I've become quite prolific at it, I suppose you could say.

The 'other dimension' is something we are experiencing all the time. It would be called the subconscious self. 'Astral projection' is a kind of psyop, created by certain resourceful and infamous entities to misdirect those who seek out such things.

There is nothing special about what I do, since every person reading this is doing it now, as they read this. The difference, I suppose, is that I'm more aware of the process and can see more of how it works. This you could also do.


I've only alluded to holding keys, not having any particular amount of Bitcoin. Although one cannot 'hold' Bitcoin but can only authorise a change in the ledger.

Cryptocurrency is essential to the 'Matrix'-type governance mechanisms being established. There is a bigger picture here that would be difficult to see, but it's directly related to humanity remembering how they build reality.


There aren't really 'opposing forces' like what the cult depicts in media. That is a fiction designed to confuse and disempower.

If people knew how easy it was to destroy all of the systems that they think themselves to resist, they'd do it in an instant. Instead, high dramas are created because, 'subconsciously', we understand why they are needed.

Chaol is both Chaos and Order. Reality is the synthesis of both forces, an equilibrium. Without Chaos there would be nothing 'good', for there would be no life. The same goes for Order, of course.


This was explored, but decided against physically. It would not work, as its purpose would be in conflict with human needs.

Humanity needs the cult for its well-being, for now, and the project would have been detrimental to its needs.

Anyone is free to use the money system at the Prospery website, for example. If you have not made use of it, then you'd be unlikely to make use of the Prospery community. People are far more interested in how the money will be spent than actually participating. This is telling. The community will be for a different time and place.

People like to think about participating in such communities, but the reality is that they rarely actually want to follow through with it. So, a different approach is needed.

The cult is more appealing, for now. And that is why I am developing in the metaphysical world instead of this one.


There was a time when I thought teleportation was cool, and "advanced" but it's something we each do every day, few of us realising that or its potential. Eventually, you'd see that there would be no need to teleport since there is no where that you could possibly go.

Often, we are more interested in letting others know about something we have done rather than doing something for a rational purpose. The action becomes, then, a formality so that we don't need to embellish the reality of what was done.

Think of all of the people that hope one day to be able to teleport that do it every night when they're dreaming. Do they really 'want' to do what they do all ready, or are they more interested in showing others what they can do?

You've hinted at the problem well. People want the entertainment, the buzz, and the shiny things. And that is why they prefer the cult, for now.

I understand cerebrally how it works, but I suppose I'm either too impatient or too scatter-brained to figure out which relationships to alter (and how) to perceive what I'd like. A combination of both, probably. I've made a series of small changes in different areas of my perception; don't get me wrong I can see how those changes affected what (how) I perceived, but none seem to be leading to what/how I'd very much like to perceive.

I get the sense that I'm probably fulfilling the perceptual requirement for what I want by focusing on it in imagination, thus not experiencing it physically. I get how that's supposed to work but I can't quite get a handle on how not to do it.

I'd like direction on what/how exactly to change in order to perceive myself and "others" physically as I was in 2012 but with "me" having all current memories. I want to experience that period of time differently than I did.

I know it's possible, I woke up in 2015 at some point in 2020 but "snapped back" pretty quickly upon realizing. Finding your content after that just affirmed that it's possible and can be done purposefully. 2020 was just more relative, so I didn't "stay" in 2015. Which is fine as I'd prefer 2012.

Can you explain to me the Ec language that is based on order and chaos vs logic, representation, interaction, and space? So far I've gathered that logic and representation are to order as interaction and space are to chaos, but I don't understand the graphic given in one of the more recent threads that has system, chaos (order squared), interaction, and order imposed on the "high, neutral, low" grid given with the original Ec system.

I think the language built around order & chaos might be the one that is more useful to me seeing as though I already considered experience to be a constant expansion and contraction of perspective before coming across Ec and the Genius, so it's more "translatable" to me I guess.

I do have some questions that relate to 2021, though, also!

By all appearances, it looks as though a market crash is imminent. I've been involved in the drama surrounding GameStop, and it looks as though they're moving towards tokenization as a company and there's talk in the reddit community about that possibly paving the way for an overhaul of the financial system in that direction as the incoming crash has the potential to make the current system completely obsolete. I'm not an expert on any of this, but I can't help but draw parallels between this drama and things you've said regarding the fall (destruction, transformation) of western society, tokenization & capitalism, and a change that would make this world more relative to "yours." I guess my question is if you had any direct or indirect hand in any of that or what your thoughts are, if any, on it if not.

Are you at all involved in Aetherics or Bastion by Aetherics? I ask because of similarities I see in the products they offer and some of the things mentioned in the original thread about portable perspective devices and also mentions of "transhumanism" associated which I've also seen in some of the content associated with this account.

Is it so that the more one interacts with these threads, the more different aspects of the threads become available/relevant? There have been a few times that I'll start to re-read sections of the original threads and find them completely different in ways that I can't chalk up to just my memory being unreliable. Same goes for the archived ecsys website. So I was wondering if this is by design or is an expected "side effect" of interacting with these concepts?

Lastly, I don't quite understand the angle of Chaon/Kore/Kekui that I've found on this account. I understand that all, including Chaol, are aspects of perspective "created" to solve reality puzzles, but the former aspects kinda vex me. Things linked and alluded to include things involving alternative history such as the Roman empire being a fabrication, 1000 years being added to the calendar in an act of metafiction, cyanandrethals being a thing, Neanderthal vs homo sapian discourse in general, the cult being neandrathal-esque, the cult introducing and promoting melanin-inhibiting chemicals to prevent populations from connecting with themselves via their "blood" or pineal glands or what have you. All very fun things to consider! But these aspects turn around and say that there is no cult or conspiracy "in reality" (bc of course there's not, reality is perception), so I guess what is the point of exploring these metafictions in relation to the conversations started by Chaol?

Edit to add: it's not so much that I'm too impatient or scatter-brained, more that I'm unsure of where to start. When it comes to the Genius, I don't know where to start mapping what I want. Time is a sense, so do I make a map that involves strengthening that sense, or do I make a map to "exactly" what I want to perceive, as in visualizing (or having an awareness of self) of the person I was at the time? How does one specify while creating the Genius? Thanks

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It's probably fear, though it may seem like other things.

There's no need to think about what relationships you should change because you aren't consciously aware of them anyway.

It also doesn't matter, because what you might think of as a relationship is most likely not a relationship at all but the things themselves. You might think of the relationship between A and B, but there is no A and B. Just let your subconscious figure it out.

Change something (anything), and then focus on what you "like". Don't think about what you'll change too much. Again, it doesn't really matter.

The subconscious mind (for lack of a better phrase) doesn't care what you like or want. It is irrelevant. You determine your focus.

Changing relationships (passively, without specific intention other than that) will help you to discover what was there but you didn't see. The old relationships will still be there, just not focused on.

Imaging it like digging through a barrel of sand to find a crystal. Don't imagine you know where the crystal is before you put your hand in. It's a waste of time and you'll probably not be able to guess anything (because it isn't there before you do). Stick your hands in and bring the sand up so you can see it, aerating each particle and giving it some life. You will 'feel' where to stop, and then the crystal will appear.

Hesitation is fear. You either do it, or you don't.

We tend to trust our consciousness and fear our subconsciousness. This is backwards, but of course there is no need to fear either (as they are different aspects of the same thing).


Perhaps first think of why you 'need' to experience it physically rather than just metaphysically.

You could say that it needs to be metaphysical first, so maybe focus more on that.

It will, within about 3 days, make an appearance physically in some way. It will look different than it does metaphysically, so pay close attention.

Feel free to interact with the 'new' things you see in your reality, then determine how you want to relate to it, if at all.

Changing your hairstyle, or complimenting an other for theirs, for example, could 'result' in you doing something you never before thought was possible.


There was no "2012". There was only a re-interpretation of time.

You are all ready experiencing that now and have re-interpreted what you call 2012 into what you see as now.

Seek out new experiences, and find your old ones in new form.

The person you had a great experience with and that you've been looking for for 4 years, for example, might now be an interesting building. When you interact with the building it may 'unlock a door', so to speak, with that person making a sudden re-appearance and the building somehow disappearing or becoming uninteresting.

Your conscious mind would then be saying, "The best way to interpret these relationships is as the person that I met before" and so its personhood would become more relevant.


You were interpreting the relationships in a very similar way, most likely, so had the same experience.

Yes, it's possible. I would guess that it would take a lot of energy to do it if it's a very different path than your logical narrative dictates.

Make what you 'want' to experience logical. That is why the Genius model works, because your reality would be filling in the missing pieces (your "want" that you do not focus on).


Perhaps express your intent with the language and I can try to provide some direction.

You're also free to make up a language that might work better for you. Simpler is better. Don't be afraid to create. Have confidence in your own abilities, because what you are is the only one thing creating the universe.


Yes, of course. My role is essential. Without what I have done their work would have taken much longer. In a way, I am their "saviour". But they also understand that the world is changing in ways they would not want. Their plans will be short-lived. Perhaps one day I'll write a book on my various roles, and the rest of my life from beginning to wherever.

There is a bigger picture at work here. There is no "good and evil" as we think of it. What is happening now has a purpose.

You could say that the "goal" is for us to understand that we are our reality. What we are experiencing is the logical, and sometimes difficult, narrative towards that understanding.

The same thing happened before, when people and commodities were tokenised and industrialisation took over.

Of course, the dramas that you see in news media are all most all ways scripted. They're fake, designed to push you in certain directions for artificial governance. Few, if any, look into the stories that they see and believe in.


I've not heard of that. I'm not involved with any movements. What we are doing here is more singular.


Yes, but sometimes it's just a stepping-stone to an other experience or concept that could not have been arrived upon any other way.


I'm not sure about this. I'd need more information about it, but I can imagine that it might have such an effect.


It may appear that there is a 'conspiracy' against humanity and that is out of control, but the real conspiracy is the one against our own selves.

The point of exploring them is to uncover the deception against ourselves. To bring it to light, so to speak, by not being afraid of the reality and seeing the logic behind why it was needed.

By being aware of how we deceive ourselves we can understand more of who and what we are.

Many of us would prefer to think of the details of a fictional world, and its history, rather than the world that surrounds us here and now. Think of how much the worlds of Star Wars, Game of Thrones, Lord of the Rings, etc., have been explored and how familiar many people are with them compared to the world that they live in. In both cases, they become obsessed with the fiction.

Reality is, for the most part, feared.

Some might think 'consciousness' is about what they read in books that the cult produces. They become obsessed with the details and dramas within them, all the while ignoring their own consciousness and what surrounds them.

You'll find more questions from others about "archons" on these threads than the chemicals they daily ingest that keep them from sensing reality more directly, for example. They wouldn't want to hear about it, but almost all ways prefer the 'beautiful' fiction.

We could go into endless discussions on the nature of reality, but that was not the intention when I wrote the first post here a little more than 12 years ago. For that, there are countless books and materials produced by the cult (that you have to pay for, naturally) that will send you on a wild goose chase. The purpose is to waste your time and deflect your action so that their method of artificial governance continues.

What I write is more actionable and producing in some way, and about reminding people that we're in this mess because it's what they chose. Here's what can be actually done to get out of the mess, not just theorised upon. The cult, on the other hand, would much rather prefer people focus on the first or second layer of the deception (i.e., what you would find in their mainstream media and their alternative media, nearly all of which is under their control).

The intention here was and is to sense the real world around us by first understanding how we have fooled ourselves with the one we think we're in.

From the second post, in September of 2009:

"Our worlds are pretty much the same until the time of the industrial revolution. That's about where our worlds diverge a bit. It could be as small of a difference as someone not meeting someone else one day. That bifurcative moment "created" the kind of world in which I lived."

That is about where we got 'lost'. Some of what is on the website is about how we got lost during that time. By understanding this we can begin to re-member who we are. It's very relevant.


As has all ways been said, it doesn't matter where you start. It's irrelevant. What only matters is that you start somewhere, now. Not tomorrow, not next week, not in 5 minutes. Now. Anything else is FEAR. You'll figure it out as you go along. You don't need to know how the Genius works in order to begin. Take out a piece of paper and write down your own Genius model. Find out how yours works.

That is how we create reality. What I provide is merely an example, not the one to copy.

Bro istg this is really accurate. Re-reading the blue kachina threads, I found myself seeing things that (I think) weren’t originally there Fr. But I guess it’s impossible to know the truth for sure so I just gotta allow it

Question(s) for Chaol;
Are you highly skilled in any craft/art/science?
If you are, what is it?
How did you come to learn it?
Is there any ‘perks’ that come with becoming ‘elite’ at something of such nature?
(Hope you answer this next one even though it may be a bit vague or jarring)- why do you think I would ask these questions?

“Hair absorbs solar energy during the day and lunar energy at night.”
—How does lunar energy work? Is it emitted directly from the moon, or just a phase shift of energy from the sun? ODIC energy research showed there was solar and lunar OD, and some people moon walked from insufficient lunar energy and other had a form of seizure from excess lunar energy. The moon walkers benefited from decreased solar energy. The seizure subjects benefited from more solar energy.

“I created roles for myself to resolve reality-puzzle”
—I once had a very ‘mystic’ experience where I possessed some different memories. I distinctly remember feeling like this place was an elaborate puzzle set up by me and not the first, it did feel like I was pretty prolific. I did briefly think about you during this weird experience. ;)

“The 'other dimension' is something we are experiencing all the time. It would be called the subconscious self. 'Astral projection' is a kind of psyop”
— It’s been known in the ‘astral community’ for a while that they are not places, they are focuses of attention. I am a decently good dreamer and Lucid Dreamer, I have had a couple “astral projection” experiences. Subjectively it is evident this is a different ‘place/experience’ than the others. A prolific projector named Frank Kepple said similarly that Dreaming and astral projection are simply different levels of awareness of experiencing the “non-physical”. Dreaming being like being the actor in a play and unaware you are in a play. Vs ‘Projecting' being like being the actor in a play and being fully aware you’re playing the part and not the person in the play. The new concept of “phasing” recognizes that its “ALL HERE NOW” and that we have chosen to focus our awareness into a specific area of that entire spectrum of consciousness. Thus these similarly different areas have been called different “Focus levels”. FOCUSES OF ATTENTION along your very own 'Consciousness Continuum’.

“The difference, I suppose, is that I'm more aware of the process and can see more of how it works. This you could also do.”
—This is one of my goals. Do you have any tips on becoming more aware of the process. I would like to be able to teleport in the physical as well as explore the Subconscious Focus Levels.


“If you have not made use of it, then you'd be unlikely to make use of the Prospery community. “
— I did, I created Prospers and even attempted to trade on this forum, however the was no market/appetite for it. I kept them on my shelf in the open for a long time. I only recently threw them away.


“There was a time when I thought teleportation was cool,”
—That’s because it IS cool.


“Think of all of the people that hope one day to be able to teleport that do it every night when they're dreaming.”
— Dreaming is also super cool.

“are they more interested in showing others what they can do?”
—Yes, I like showing off.

“I am developing in the metaphysical world instead of this one.”
— I cherish the Physical Focus of awareness. If you are developing the metaphysical, leave the physical development to me then. I would very much enjoy Re-Entertaining the people. I hope you will invest in and favor my developments through the metaphysical webs you weave.


“I've only alluded to holding keys, not having any particular amount of Bitcoin”
— Sounds like you don’t need them for the Metaphysical development you are doing. Transfer the keys to me so that you can help me to Build on the Physical? Perhaps there is something of trade value you are interested in?

I've heard it said that the Bible is a living text—in context, this means that every time you read it, something "new" can be gleaned from the words based upon new perspective thag has been gained. I don't disagree with this, the same passage can mean so many different things depending on the context within which they are read.

I don't mean to compare the words of Chaol directly to the Bible (and all of the implications that would come from that), but I find that these concepts are "living" in that context. The more ways the concepts are interacted with, the more associated perspectives are "accessible," seemingly in much more tangible ways.

In my own experience, this is illustrated by the content morphing towards an understanding of time (as my want is directly to do with time and and traversing of such).

The first time I read the "Notes...." thread, there was no mention of the sense of time. Same thing with the archived ecsys.org site. There was no mention of "time travel" (we know, in context, that there is no "time" or "travel," but English is limiting). Reading those threads now, it is mentioned that "time" is not a thing but a sense,, there is now also the mention that people from "Chaol's dimension" consider eating less fat to be associated with "time travel." These two concepts were not there the first time I read the content, I would have noticed, being as preoccupied as I am with time travel. The third or fourth time, however, there they are. I can't prove that they weren't there originally, but in my experience I know they were not. Mandela effect, anyone?

These concepts are incredibly "living," they seem to have a "consciousness" all their own that will cater to the reader. This is supported by Chaol's idea that "consciousness" isn't dependant on a brain but on relationships formed between any representations (this content being a representation). My relationship to the content is dependant on the concept of time, and the content obliged. "Chaol," or the perspective she represents, obliged. I find that fascinating, not to mention incredibly practical and illustrative of the content itself. A living text that actually changes according to perspective. Lovely, if you ask me!

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