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Notes from an "alternate universe": The Revelation of the Real World

 
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Influence of the earth's magnetic field on resting with intent experiencing dreams.

REM latency, depending on whether the subjects sit facing the N-S or E-W direction?

What is your sleeping position like?
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I have watched this movie several times. Phrases like: "Now is all you have", "There is no beginning or end, there is only action", "We suffer from the fact that we do not get what we want, and if we get, we still suffer, because we can't keep it forever", "The path makes us happy, not the goal", "Life is a mystery. Don't waste time trying to reveal it", "Knowledge and wisdom are not the same".
Yes, these are brilliant phrases, but as we were told in school: "The system can give you knowledge, but you gain understanding on your own." So, I stubbornly do not gain an understanding of either these phrases or what you, the Builder, are trying to convey. There seems to be something wrong with me.
 Quoting: Razvitiye

Can you provide an example of a phrase (any phrase) that you think you do have an understanding of?
 Quoting: The Builder


As an example, the phrase: "knowledge and wisdom are not the same thing." Mankind has gained knowledge of how to extract energy from nuclear reactions. To understand these processes, you need to be smart enough, but in order not to use this energy to destroy cities and kill civilians (I look frowningly at the military), you need to be wise.
 Quoting: Razvitiye

So, would you say that you understand some things and not others?

Would you think that, because you do not understand everything, that there must be something wrong with you?

This may not be exactly it of course, but I'm trying to understand your position.
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How would you respond if someone's divine interpretation led them to believe that physical gold is significant to their perspective?


Gold has been associated with the sun in many cultures throughout history. Visual similarity between the color of gold and the color of the sun as well as the fact that the sun was seen as a source of life and power.

In ancient Egyptian mythology, the sun god Ra was often depicted as a golden disk.

The Incas, Aztecs, and other cultures in the Americas also revered gold and associated it with the sun.

In Hinduism, the sun god Surya was often depicted wearing gold jewelry, and gold was considered to be a symbol of purity and enlightenment.

Both gold and the sun are very dense and have high melting points. This may have contributed to the association between gold and the sun in some cultures.
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{snippies…}

You may soon have a desire to take a new look at the things you've directly or indirectly pushed away over the past couple of years. It will be tough, yes, but you will also feel in control over your own choices.

To do or not to do. That is the spirit.

It may be time to accept your whole Self and experience a happiness, a wholeness, and a sense of love like you've never felt before.
 Quoting: The Builder


So pretty much this is just part of my process of becoming who and what I really am. I can honestly say my life has been everything under the sun at this point. The whole gamut. Full spectrum.
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

I hope you've been referring to the 'Hero's Journey' diagram in relation to these things.


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Where do you think you are now?

What might your 'return to normalcy' look like?
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I haven’t said it in a while - thank you Anthony - for the role you play in my life. Even at such a distance and being words on a screen, our relating has been impactful :)
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

You're very welcome, though we've only just begun.

More fun will be had by all!

I appreciate you, too!
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I mentioned electricity before and how this can be integrated into 'the new world' but there is so much else that can be considered harmful that we can make innocuous by a change in perspective.
 Quoting: The Builder


Would you say more about the ‘new world’ and what some of these changes in perspective are?
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

That depends almost entirely on what each of us is willing to perceive.

I am only a snake in the garden, reminding the monkeys that the real 'tree of knowledge of good and evil' (wisdom of technology and industry) is in the mind.

The masses will not set aside their lust for this Chaos ('Satan', or too much of what you don't need) anytime soon, so the nature of Chaos itself will be transformed into something less harmful to the human genius and spirit.

We have moved from:

The Self as the authority of reality, with knowledge of how the mind, body, and reality work ("religion"), with help from doctors, farmers, shepards (popes, bishops, et c)

to mediators as the authority of land, with doctors and farmers becoming popes and other 'nobility' imparting the Lord of Hosts ("law of the land" for mental and physical health)

to popes and nobility being seen as the authority of the self,

to the creation of States, with representative governments comprised of the people in it,

to the expansion of States, with governments who have grown to represent corporations (incorporeal persons) and special interests,

and now to the de-centralisation of State power (a "unipolar world"), an even greater centralisation than was previously known, enabled by technology and monoculture,

then to a kind of distributed centralisation of power, not unlike the mediators of old,

then, eventually, back to the Self as the authority of one's reality.
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So good to see you back Chaol! I see I have some catching up to do! How are things? How’s the Mrs?
 Quoting: MajorMan 47870807

Thanks, MajorMan!

I see I have some catching up to do!
 Quoting: MajorMan 47870807

There is nothing new under the sun. It's just the same thing said in different ways :)

How are things?
 Quoting: MajorMan 47870807

Doing very nicely, thank you. I see that you are, too :)

How’s the Mrs?
 Quoting: MajorMan 47870807

If only...
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I have been thinking of doing a translation of the 'Holy Bible' to illustrate its original meaning. This effort would probably take a great number of years (though much of it is executing the Find and Replace function for words), but it would answer a tremendous amount of questions and make so much obvious.
 Quoting: The Builder


I would love to read this. It sounds like a huge undertaking and an enormous amount of work. But I sure hope it’s something you end up doing. It seems so much has been ‘lost in translation’ and that something like this could lead to greater understanding.
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It would not be embraced, but highly rejected. It would, most likely, deeply anger those who care about what it has become and have invested so much into its modern interpretation.

Consensus is quite a powerful force.
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Influence of the earth's magnetic field on resting with intent experiencing dreams.
 Quoting: SpawnX

What is the Earth?

REM latency, depending on whether the subjects sit facing the N-S or E-W direction?

What is your sleeping position like?
 Quoting: SpawnX

Elevated.

And what are the cardinal directions in relation to the body?
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How would you respond if someone's divine interpretation led them to believe that physical gold is significant to their perspective?
 Quoting: SpawnX

Is it possible that -- without so many toxins -- we each have a 'nugget' of gold in our bodies?

Why might a pine cone have been at the center of the Vatican in Rome?

Gold has been associated with the sun in many cultures throughout history. Visual similarity between the color of gold and the color of the sun as well as the fact that the sun was seen as a source of life and power.

In ancient Egyptian mythology, the sun god Ra was often depicted as a golden disk.

The Incas, Aztecs, and other cultures in the Americas also revered gold and associated it with the sun.

In Hinduism, the sun god Surya was often depicted wearing gold jewelry, and gold was considered to be a symbol of purity and enlightenment.

Both gold and the sun are very dense and have high melting points. This may have contributed to the association between gold and the sun in some cultures.
 Quoting: SpawnX

Don't forget there are two suns: the one in the sky and the one in the brain.
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I have watched this movie several times. Phrases like: "Now is all you have", "There is no beginning or end, there is only action", "We suffer from the fact that we do not get what we want, and if we get, we still suffer, because we can't keep it forever", "The path makes us happy, not the goal", "Life is a mystery. Don't waste time trying to reveal it", "Knowledge and wisdom are not the same".
Yes, these are brilliant phrases, but as we were told in school: "The system can give you knowledge, but you gain understanding on your own." So, I stubbornly do not gain an understanding of either these phrases or what you, the Builder, are trying to convey. There seems to be something wrong with me.
 Quoting: Razvitiye

Can you provide an example of a phrase (any phrase) that you think you do have an understanding of?
 Quoting: The Builder


As an example, the phrase: "knowledge and wisdom are not the same thing." Mankind has gained knowledge of how to extract energy from nuclear reactions. To understand these processes, you need to be smart enough, but in order not to use this energy to destroy cities and kill civilians (I look frowningly at the military), you need to be wise.
 Quoting: Razvitiye

So, would you say that you understand some things and not others?



Would you think that, because you do not understand everything, that there must be something wrong with you?

This may not be exactly it of course, but I'm trying to understand your position.
 Quoting: The Builder


It is difficult to understand whether my idea of the things with which I interact is correct. As Socrates said in the film "Peaceful Warrior": "stop looking for information from outside and listen to yourself." But how can I know if my thoughts are in my head?
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{snippies…}

You may soon have a desire to take a new look at the things you've directly or indirectly pushed away over the past couple of years. It will be tough, yes, but you will also feel in control over your own choices.

To do or not to do. That is the spirit.

It may be time to accept your whole Self and experience a happiness, a wholeness, and a sense of love like you've never felt before.
 Quoting: The Builder


So pretty much this is just part of my process of becoming who and what I really am. I can honestly say my life has been everything under the sun at this point. The whole gamut. Full spectrum.
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

I hope you've been referring to the 'Hero's Journey' diagram in relation to these things.


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Where do you think you are now?

What might your 'return to normalcy' look like?
 Quoting: The Builder


Thank you for the reminder.

I’m in the southwest quadrant somewhere. Out of the abyss, even if just barely, in the midst of transformation. Again.

In some respects, there is a sense of normalcy for the time being. But change is lingering just outside my door. At any moment, my world could change in a heartbeat.

For now, the reality reflected around me is very familiar. Normal for me. The only not-normal part now is Me. I’m not the same. Unsure of my relationship to it all. In a way, up in the air - like it could go any which way depending on how I step.

My personal return to normalcy is one step at a time. Literal baby steps. I feel I’ve wasted enough time in my life. This next stage I’m going to step deliberately. And rest when appropriate.

There is no rush.
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I haven’t said it in a while - thank you Anthony - for the role you play in my life. Even at such a distance and being words on a screen, our relating has been impactful :)
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

You're very welcome, though we've only just begun.

More fun will be had by all!

I appreciate you, too!
 Quoting: The Builder


Looking forward to some real fun. I wouldn’t categorize these last years as fun for me. That’s to be expected though when everything I used to believe was fun lost its appeal. Got shone to me in a different light.

I’m still waiting to reconnect with my muse. In a different form.
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I have been thinking of doing a translation of the 'Holy Bible' to illustrate its original meaning. This effort would probably take a great number of years (though much of it is executing the Find and Replace function for words), but it would answer a tremendous amount of questions and make so much obvious.
 Quoting: The Builder


I would love to read this. It sounds like a huge undertaking and an enormous amount of work. But I sure hope it’s something you end up doing. It seems so much has been ‘lost in translation’ and that something like this could lead to greater understanding.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83766966

It would not be embraced, but highly rejected. It would, most likely, deeply anger those who care about what it has become and have invested so much into its modern interpretation.

Consensus is quite a powerful force.
 Quoting: The Builder


I bet it would piss them off. So, does that mean you won’t do it?

Again, I really hope you do. Selfishly, I think I would gain a lot from this.
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I mentioned electricity before and how this can be integrated into 'the new world' but there is so much else that can be considered harmful that we can make innocuous by a change in perspective.
 Quoting: The Builder


Would you say more about the ‘new world’ and what some of these changes in perspective are?
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

That depends almost entirely on what each of us is willing to perceive.

I am only a snake in the garden, reminding the monkeys that the real 'tree of knowledge of good and evil' (wisdom of technology and industry) is in the mind.

The masses will not set aside their lust for this Chaos ('Satan', or too much of what you don't need) anytime soon, so the nature of Chaos itself will be transformed into something less harmful to the human genius and spirit.

We have moved from:

The Self as the authority of reality, with knowledge of how the mind, body, and reality work ("religion"), with help from doctors, farmers, shepards (popes, bishops, et c)

to mediators as the authority of land, with doctors and farmers becoming popes and other 'nobility' imparting the Lord of Hosts ("law of the land" for mental and physical health)

to popes and nobility being seen as the authority of the self,

to the creation of States, with representative governments comprised of the people in it,

to the expansion of States, with governments who have grown to represent corporations (incorporeal persons) and special interests,

and now to the de-centralisation of State power (a "unipolar world"), an even greater centralisation than was previously known, enabled by technology and monoculture,

then to a kind of distributed centralisation of power, not unlike the mediators of old,

then, eventually, back to the Self as the authority of one's reality.
 Quoting: The Builder


So it’s easier to transform ‘Satan’ than move the masses? That’s telling. How do you do that?

What’s the impetus for moving from the “unipolar world” we find ourselves in now to “a kind of distributed centralisation of power” and about when does that happen - sooner rather than later or are we talking generations?

Do you foresee some massive catastrophe that in a way, forces our hand - to move in this direction? Something environmental, WW3, asteroid, et c.? Anything?
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Sure, it can be thought of that way to make ourselves feel better about things. We can respect an authority who wants to 'test' us, but would abhor experiencing something 'negative' that was our choice to perceive.
 Quoting: The Builder


I meant more that I can sense the resistance to doing "good" things. I've been making smoothies with lots of good stuff in them. I forgot my smoothie cup at work and felt the urge to just skip doing the smoothie the next day because of that, which would have led to not doing the smoothies anymore (had this exact thing happen when I was younger). But I noticed it, noticed what it was (resistance) and did it anyway. Forgetting the cup was a "test." I made the smoothie anyway :)

You're assuming that something is there before you produce it, it seems.

How could you be unsure of what something is if you are producing it in its entirety? YOU decide what it is :)

[snippies]

That's entirely up to you.

It's extremely difficult to get used to the idea of you being the authority of your reality, of course. But it is your reality (and entirely your perspective) after all.
 Quoting: The Builder


[Emphasis mine]

Re: the bold, it certainly is. It seems I have had a preoccupation with being "right" stemming from a fear of success and failure complex (an other facet of the aforementioned paradoxical thinking patterns) despite "knowing" that right and wrong are irrelevant. That's not so compatible with working with Neuronics

You decide that.

I would suggest doing it the easiest way possible, though.

For me, it is:

1) Perceive something
2) Determine its main category from among the four
3) Determine its sub-category from among the four
4) Place it, mentally and with my mouth closed, on a section of my tongue that corresponds to the four symbols
5) Hold it (if I want to add other perceptions) or begin to manipulate it
6) Feel the muscles in my tongue manipulate it to a position I prefer, imagining that its nature is changing

This is just one of the main ways I work with it. Others may prefer other methods. The latter part of #5 was practised first by imagining a contact lens in my mouth, on my tongue, and flipping it around in my imagination until my muscles moved simultaneously with the thought.
 Quoting: The Builder


So that's what that exercise was about!

That's what yogic mudras are, I would conclude.

The way I figure, the tip of the tongue is L, the back of the tongue is J, the right side of the tongue is R, and the left H

Could you explain what you mean by subcategory? Is that the perpendicular definition to the first one?

I see how Neuronics works with manipulating physical things, but I'm still confusing myself regarding making "metaphysical" things physical.

Please bear with this next part :)

Like, say I want to experience a physical apple in my physical hand. I can picture an apple. I am perceiving this visualization of an apple, which I assume is what I want to define. If I can define it in it's metaphysical form (the visualization), then I can define a physical counterpart of it that is in my immediate area of physical perception. It could translate into, say, a pencil that's on my desk. So that pencil IS the visualization of the apple. How, then, does that relate to a PHYSICAL apple, in my hand, if it does?

Also, I'm having some trouble being able to tell what metaphysical things are more expansive or contractive.

For example, the definition of a visualization of an apple that I intend to translate into a physical apple:

1. A. Can you touch it? No, it's a thought (metaphysical)

1. B. Does it seek to expand? Well, I'm not sure. Since I want it, is it seeking to expand into physical reality? Or no, that would be contracting since physical reality is more ordered than metaphysical reality

2. A. How do you interact with it? Metaphysically, I am thinking of it.

2. B. Do you interact by expansion? Again, not sure. Thinking of it in and of itself seems to be contractive, but is the interaction by translation not expansive?

3. A. Would continued interaction with it over time have more of a metaphysical or physical effect? Unsure

3. B. Would it result in more chaos or order over time? Unsure

OR would I just go about defining a physical apple as if I were all ready perceiving it?

1. Physically, no; R
2. Physically, yes (taking a bite of it would be destruction i.e. chaos i.e. expansion); H
3. Physical, chaos (digestion is further breaking it apart*); H

And then translate THAT into something else that's in immediate perception?

*Also isn't more chaos more order and vice versa? 3.B. confuses me ...

Are you asking whether or not physically harming others for your own sustenance is sustainable in your reality, or something else?
 Quoting: The Builder


I suppose that depends if perceiving someone dying irrespective of the manner in which they die all ways constitutes harm to your reality.
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I'm sure there would be an increase of magnitude of the perception of 'harm' in one's reality between someone dying relatively peacefully and someone being brutally murdered, but maybe that's just me.
 Quoting: The Builder


Then the question is would cannibalizing someone who died peacefully be "bad"? :) Not that it matters.

Say, what does the Eucharist "actually" represent anyhow, in terms of the mind and all that


Thanks. It appears I was suggesting it for its high level of potassiums, and iron content. I better go drink some wheatgrass now! I don't believe I've ever had the pleasure.
 Quoting: The Builder


I definitely recommend drying+grinding or juicing it ...


Plans for obligations like school or work would be different than plans for leisure, like your wheatgrass experiment. It takes some getting used to, but it seems you're getting there!
 Quoting: The Builder


Yes, but there's something about the plans for obligations that makes them get done that the plans for leisure don't seem to have. If the wheatgrass experience could even be classified as leisure (with my operating understanding of it being "use of free time for enjoyment"); my body is having a difficult time, eating/drinking more wealthily is not something I'd call leisurely. It's I-do-it-or-continue-feeling-like-I'm-dying. Actual plans for leisure don't see the light of day (or my mind), I don't really do things that I enjoy. Mainly because I don't know what I enjoy, mainly because I don't have a sense of identity. It has been a long time since I've found pleasure in something, or found pleasure in something and continued to find pleasure in it. I have been afraid I never will again. That is a distressing thought, but one I'm leaning into to become okay with :)
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It has been a long time since I've found pleasure in something, or found pleasure in something and continued to find pleasure in it. I have been afraid I never will again. That is a distressing thought, but one I'm leaning into to become okay with :)
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For what it's worth, this thought has become highly relevant to my quest to return to 2012. Recently I've pinned that just after then is when my sense of identity became skewed and eventually lost, when I really started to give power away to other aspects of my reality
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Also, how does the "philosophers' stone" fit into all this? I have a feeling there is a connection that I might not be directly aware of.
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It's just the pineal gland, which everyone has. It is the seat of physical perception -- and also changes of perspective.

Read the Wikipedia entry on <<philosopher's stone>> in this context.
 Quoting: The Builder

Now, let me ask you :)

If the <<philosopher's stone>> can change base metals into gold, and the pineal gland is the 'inner sun' (or, Geezis, the black sun, or the seat of the Soul), why was gold so coveted?

How is gold related to the sun?

What function might it serve?

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Gold is a derivative of the sun - a "sun-transfigured base metal". Having this strong relationship with the sun, it could serve either of the following functions:

-> Connect to, amplify, or activate the power of the physical sun (the pineal gland of the more extended Self?). This in turn could help humans use the physical sun to create a less physical reality by removing the logical steps needed to access other versions of yourself?

-> Create the right circumstances to connect the outer sun with the inner sun, which could lead to an expansion of possibility?

Rereading the above, it's probably the same thing explained in different words.

Even today, on a smaller scale, gold alters the way in which we change our perspective. It creates logical pathways to versions of ourselves that seem "further away" otherwise. Currency has a similar function I would say but feels more corrupted.
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Alright mam. Go ahead and ignore me. I'll take the silence as your final answer. Goodbye.
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I mean *man

That sucks I couldn't even get a pointless win at the end like I got to say something meaningful on my own behalf for once
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You can only perceive of yourself as the Absolute by forgetting that you are.
 Quoting: The Builder


My intuition wanted to chime in to say that gold is ab sol ut (not sure the Latin Google translation is valid but still quite interesting).

Hence another potential connection is revealed.

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Hm, over the past 3 years I have been drawn to gold, copper, and pearl jewelry (though I've removed all but two of my piercings, in which I wear my pearl drop earrings ... I don't remember receiving these but found them when I moved a couple months ago).
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Also, how does the "philosophers' stone" fit into all this? I have a feeling there is a connection that I might not be directly aware of.
 Quoting: gallade17

It's just the pineal gland, which everyone has. It is the seat of physical perception -- and also changes of perspective.

Read the Wikipedia entry on <<philosopher's stone>> in this context.
 Quoting: The Builder


Random question: Are ringsels / sarira related to the internal Philosopher’s Stone, the pineal gland?
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It is difficult to understand whether my idea of the things with which I interact is correct. As Socrates said in the film "Peaceful Warrior": "stop looking for information from outside and listen to yourself." But how can I know if my thoughts are in my head?
 Quoting: Razvitiye

There is no Absolute that can be perceived.

Only the Absolute can be 'correct'.

We don't mean 'correct' or 'true' when we use the terms.

'Correct' is defined as, "free from error; in accordance with fact or truth"

What we mean to say is that something is useful in a certain domain, or more relevant than others applied in that domain. The more useful something is, the more correct and free from error it seems (while still not being True).

Things that we consider 'correct' in a domain are useful in it. Try thinking about something that is considered correct in a particular domain but cannot be used within it somehow.

The 'correctness' comes from the utility rather than a truth (i.e., absoluteness) that cannot be perceived.

There are no 'correct thoughts', per above.

This is what afflicts the 85%; theorising, worrying, making excuses why they cannot do something (or waiting for other things to happen before they do it), blaming others in their own perspective, talking about things rather than doing, pretending to not know where to begin (anywhere), consuming reality rather than producing it, et c.

ACTION is what matters. Turn the abstract into something productive. Move beyond the state of inaction and lethargy that the 85% is compelled to express.
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{snippies…}

You may soon have a desire to take a new look at the things you've directly or indirectly pushed away over the past couple of years. It will be tough, yes, but you will also feel in control over your own choices.

To do or not to do. That is the spirit.

It may be time to accept your whole Self and experience a happiness, a wholeness, and a sense of love like you've never felt before.
 Quoting: The Builder


So pretty much this is just part of my process of becoming who and what I really am. I can honestly say my life has been everything under the sun at this point. The whole gamut. Full spectrum.
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

I hope you've been referring to the 'Hero's Journey' diagram in relation to these things.


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Where do you think you are now?

What might your 'return to normalcy' look like?
 Quoting: The Builder


Thank you for the reminder.

I’m in the southwest quadrant somewhere. Out of the abyss, even if just barely, in the midst of transformation. Again.

In some respects, there is a sense of normalcy for the time being. But change is lingering just outside my door. At any moment, my world could change in a heartbeat.

For now, the reality reflected around me is very familiar. Normal for me. The only not-normal part now is Me. I’m not the same. Unsure of my relationship to it all. In a way, up in the air - like it could go any which way depending on how I step.

My personal return to normalcy is one step at a time. Literal baby steps. I feel I’ve wasted enough time in my life. This next stage I’m going to step deliberately. And rest when appropriate.

There is no rush.
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

It is our nature to repeat this life cycle over and over, in different ways.

Do you see how you have experienced many of the same cycles -- but smaller -- throughout your life? For example, school (mentors, tests, the abyss, the return of bringing back knowledge to a familiar world, and so on).

We are all used to this cycle more than we realise.
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I have been thinking of doing a translation of the 'Holy Bible' to illustrate its original meaning. This effort would probably take a great number of years (though much of it is executing the Find and Replace function for words), but it would answer a tremendous amount of questions and make so much obvious.
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I would love to read this. It sounds like a huge undertaking and an enormous amount of work. But I sure hope it’s something you end up doing. It seems so much has been ‘lost in translation’ and that something like this could lead to greater understanding.
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It would not be embraced, but highly rejected. It would, most likely, deeply anger those who care about what it has become and have invested so much into its modern interpretation.

Consensus is quite a powerful force.
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I bet it would piss them off. So, does that mean you won’t do it?
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

There would be little benefit, so perhaps not.

The familiar is probably the best route, for sanity's sake.

Again, I really hope you do. Selfishly, I think I would gain a lot from this.
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

Much of what I have built I have not released, and may never (as I build mostly for my own benefit). This is probably one of those things.
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So it’s easier to transform ‘Satan’ than move the masses? That’s telling.
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

The masses have become addicted to Chaos, and are thus addicted to Satan ('too much of what you don't need').

We're almost to the point where it would be strange if we saw someone who does not submit to this force.

It used to be normal, for example, to sit on a train or bus and look out of the window, look around and daydream, or chat with others, for the entire ride. Now it would be considered strange to not distract yourself with some kind of Chaos, usually in the form of technology.

We have become uncomfortable with our own thoughts and comfortable with Chaos. It would be easier to build new kinds of Chaos that point away from additional Chaos rather than work against this addiction directly.

How do you do that?
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

Metaphysically, of course.

Bit coin is one way. Other ways are less obvious, but will make more sense over time.

What’s the impetus for moving from the “unipolar world” we find ourselves in now to “a kind of distributed centralisation of power”
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

The same greed and lust for Chaos that got us here in the first place. Using the same force but in a different way, like jiu-jitsu.

and about when does that happen - sooner rather than later or are we talking generations?
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

It has all ready begun.

I expect more momentum in about 6-7 years.

Do you foresee some massive catastrophe that in a way, forces our hand - to move in this direction?
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

No, not at all. Most 'catastophes' are artificial.

Something environmental, WW3, asteroid, et c.? Anything?
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

No. Fear is a powerful weapon of population control, but there is nothing to fear. Much of what the Cult wants you to fear is just how government works. (Without fear there can be no artificial government. People fear their own power and authority, so they give into this fear naturally, as a kind of game.)
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[snipples]
So that's what that exercise was about!

That's what yogic mudras are, I would conclude.

The way I figure, the tip of the tongue is L, the back of the tongue is J, the right side of the tongue is R, and the left H
 Quoting: Sabai 80635221

Whichever you prefer. But using the tongue is one of endless possibilities.

[snipples]
Could you explain what you mean by subcategory? Is that the perpendicular definition to the first one?
 Quoting: Sabai 80635221

The second symbol in the set.

I see how Neuronics works with manipulating physical things, but I'm still confusing myself regarding making "metaphysical" things physical.

Please bear with this next part :)

Like, say I want to experience a physical apple in my physical hand. I can picture an apple. I am perceiving this visualization of an apple, which I assume is what I want to define. If I can define it in it's metaphysical form (the visualization), then I can define a physical counterpart of it that is in my immediate area of physical perception. It could translate into, say, a pencil that's on my desk. So that pencil IS the visualization of the apple. How, then, does that relate to a PHYSICAL apple, in my hand, if it does?
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Thinking of something by itself is somewhat meaningless. You can consider how that thing relates to other things in your immediate reality.

Does it relate to the door? Perhaps a neighbour knocks on the door and gives you an extra apple that they had, for example.

This isn't materialising an apple out of nothing but relating it to your reality in a way that makes sense (i.e., in the logical narrative of your perspective).

Also, I'm having some trouble being able to tell what metaphysical things are more expansive or contractive.

For example, the definition of a visualization of an apple that I intend to translate into a physical apple:

1. A. Can you touch it? No, it's a thought (metaphysical)
 Quoting: Sabai 80635221

'Yes' because it's physical :)

Assume that which you want is all ready there. With Neuronics, you're just finding a way to perceive what is there now, in a way.

1. B. Does it seek to expand? Well, I'm not sure. Since I want it, is it seeking to expand into physical reality? Or no, that would be contracting since physical reality is more ordered than metaphysical reality
 Quoting: Sabai 80635221

Just think of the apple as the physical apple.

We can think of a physical apple as decaying over time.

2. A. How do you interact with it? Metaphysically, I am thinking of it.

2. B. Do you interact by expansion? Again, not sure. Thinking of it in and of itself seems to be contractive, but is the interaction by translation not expansive?

3. A. Would continued interaction with it over time have more of a metaphysical or physical effect? Unsure

3. B. Would it result in more chaos or order over time? Unsure

OR would I just go about defining a physical apple as if I were all ready perceiving it?

1. Physically, no; R
2. Physically, yes (taking a bite of it would be destruction i.e. chaos i.e. expansion); H
3. Physical, chaos (digestion is further breaking it apart*); H

And then translate THAT into something else that's in immediate perception?

*Also isn't more chaos more order and vice versa? 3.B. confuses me ...

 Quoting: Sabai 80635221

Yes. Imagine it is all ready there (because it is). You just need a way (a narrative) to perceive it.
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 Quoting: Sabai 58772605

They're both men. I sat across from the taller one on the way back from Tokyo and couldn't help but notice. Very convincing, though. Her "Buddha Family" entourage seemed 'normal' though.

One day, they will not do this kind of thing to 'break' the 85%.
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