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Notes from an "alternate universe": The Revelation of the Real World

 
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Has anyone else noticed an increase in the amount of lucid dreams they're having?
 Quoting: Razvitiye


Intense dreams, and very long ones, but not lucid.

Thank you for sharing
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I’ve been going through some massive changes some I welcome, others I have to accept and make peace with. Compromises abound in my reality atm.
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

I hope you are making the most out of whatever 'lessons' they may avail.
 Quoting: The Builder



I think the biggest lesson for me has been to tend my local. To assess the relationships closest to me. Including the one to myself - which is proving to be the hardest for me to make peace with at the moment.

The massive changes I am talking about are not only recent but also in the context of the last couple of years. It’s like my structure has been popped. My identity stricken. All the things I thought made up me - shattered. It’s proven very difficult in many regards. It’s left me feeling like I wasted my life on nothing of real importance. Like I did a disservice to my children.

Here I am on the other side of trauma having a hard time recognizing myself. This new version of me. It’s like I saw through the illusion that was my life, that was me. It’s left me disillusioned. Disheartened.

I’ve made many compromises this last year+ and am really trying to figure out if it’s worth it and am I willing to do it for the long haul. I don’t know that I am. Yet at the same time, looking at what my options are realistically. How to strike a healthy balance.

I don’t feel like myself anymore. And I’m not sure how to move from here. It feels like a legit mid-life crisis.

I don’t really want to say it aloud, but if I’m being honest, I’m struggling with loving myself in this new light. Sometimes I wish I could turn back the clock.

I know you’re gonna say watch my language - having a hard time, struggling, et c. - but it’s how I feel right now and don’t necessarily know how to resolve those feelings and embrace this version of me.

On the other side, I have been walking several times a week, every week for 6 months now. (My dogs are stoked). I am 4 months in on no smoking and not struggling with it at all (but not loving the weight gain). Being a Grandma is the best kind of love. My ranch is on the market. I have plans to travel and see my family for quality time. In many regards, life is good….

In the midst of change and not necessarily seeing the “lesson” in its totality yet.

2021 really fucked my world up.
2022 was about getting back to base - whatever that is.
2023 ??? “How I Learned to Love All of Me”. Even the pieces I don’t like or see.

For the first time in my life I feel old. Uninspired. Worn down. I guess even a little depressed which is way out of character for me. It’s proving harder to make the leap. Like I’m just settling instead of manifesting and thriving.

My heart is broken in a way.

Any actionable tips would be appreciated
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If we wake up grumpy then are more likely to experience relevant things.

 Quoting: The Builder


Our mind changes how we interpret things, so to speak, which can re-engineer our bodies to be able to process certain things differently than others.
 Quoting: The Builder



It was then that I began to explore reality and make sense of the dreams and thoughts that I previously had.


 Quoting: The Builder


How can one interpret their past dreams?

It often troubles me that dreams can be relevant to the events of the day.

For instance, if a dream reveals a sense of deception, it's challenging to dismiss its significance and ignore its potential meaning.

It's path of least resistance to carry over the emotions and distress from the dream that has revealed hidden meanings into the following day.

Could my subconscious be re-engineering my body to behave according to its own preferences?

Does the term "upside down" hold any significance in the interpretation of dreams?

Tomorrow, I plan to try an anti-grumpy morning treat. The first quote I read reminded me of a morning of 2016 a feeling of childlike freedom, as if there are no rules holding me back that lead that day to success.
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I did not make it explicit, my mistake.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84345936

No worries. I sometimes have trouble understanding casual conversations.

What I am asking is, if you are the one choosing things, why did you choose that timeline of poverty, divorce, and death?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84345936

To use an analogy, when you are wealthy you can eat at any restaurant or live in any neighborhood without consideration of finances. When you are poor you often choose where to eat or live based on your finances and don't have the kind of freedoms that you might have otherwise.

If we consider the spirit as 'extremely wealthy' for the resources that it has available, as well as the freedoms it enjoys, it can enter into any life situation with ease. It might have a 'bad meal' or experience because of its choices, but that's part of the reason the freedom was exercised in the first place.

We can understand reality, and ourselves, more through a situation where we lack, or seem to fail, than we can the opposite. The more we seem to have, the more easily it can be used to distract ourselves from our own Self.

When we seem to "lose" something, we have a tremendous opportunity to think about the nature of things more deeply and, thus, raise the quality of our sense of existence. To have all ways reminds us of being Absolute, which is to be avoided. Even those that seem to have everything need to create some kind of drama to sustain their exist-sense.

As far as the divorce, it didn't seem to bother me. My father and I kept in touch and had a good relationship. He also maintained a civil relationship with my mom and her mom. I felt more than fine with the situation, and I didn't see it as 'a situation'.

It took me a year or so after my mother's death to realise that my life had far more value than my family's previous life of being upper-middle class and living amongst the 'elite', together as a family, and happy. I only began to really explore myself (rather than just being curious about reality) after my mother died. It was the best choice, by far.

A few days before my mother died I left her, my grandmother, sister, and brother, to live with my father in Los Angeles. I didn't like the 'poor' life, nor being cold in winters and sleeping on my aunt's balcony (for privacy). My dad was middle class, though lived quite near Beverly Hills and had clients there, so I had a chance to be amongst extremely famous and wealthy persons. (His brother had a famous restaurant on Venice Beach and Schwarzenegger, Dick Clark, and others were frequent visitors. It was a new world for me.)

I did not know my mother would die a few days later, as her condition seemed stable. In fact, I did not believe my family when they told me of her death. I thought it was a ruse to get me to come back and stay with them. I'm glad that it happened that way, as the 'shock' and feeling of loss was spread out over 8 months of disbelief and belief mixed together. By the time any 'grief' began to set in, I developed a deeper understanding of what happened that bordered on the metaphysical. Much of it was all ready processed by the time I was certain that she had died.

Though my mother had told me repeatedly that anything was possible, my father had (indirectly) shown what was possible. We ate at the finest restaurants (for free), met interesting and eccentric people, spent lots of time at the beach, kept warm in winters, and I felt a tremendous sense of freedom.

From then on I seemed to accept things as they came, knowing that there was a purpose. Though I hadn't yet realised that my reality was my own Self at work, I felt invincible. I felt a sense of 'protection', that somehow I was special and could not be harmed.

I also began to understand that others around me chose their situations. Although I helped my sister tremendously, for years, I learned that her and others like her we comfortable with the life they had, despite their complaints. They allowed 'bad' things to happen to them that they tried to work themselves out of. Most often, they did nothing about it. Though they complained about their situation, they also seemed to desire it. I'm sure my sister was also a "choice" for me, as her insecurity about herself and desire to be a victim puzzled me for a number of years. Interacting with her and people like her has opened my eyes to the human condition.
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You did reveal that, in the process, it was mostly pleasant and there was more revelation than grief.
So your answer was that it was a necessary narrative structure to begin your life.
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Yes, mostly pleasant. The uncomfortable situations were self-inflicted and could been changed at any time, such as school or sleeping on the balcony. Being poor at the time was just "life" rather than discomfort.

I don't think it was a necessary narrative, but the one that I was wanted to experience for the flavour. I do remember pushing the limits many times to see what I could do. (Setting up an office in our closet at age 8 or so and talking with stockbrokers, trying to get free newspapers like Forbes and Barrons, working on business ideas with friends and printing up flyers, and more.)

Still, I was wondering if you miss your family, or would want to have your mother back, that you could choose to have her back.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84345936

I just miss my sister's innocence and honesty.The rest, I accepted at the time and grew to understand the purpose of.

I'm happy to think of my mother sometimes and have her in my dreams. I don't remember thinking that I wanted her back. It would not have made sense to me, I think.

Where is your mother now, do you think? Do you want to see her again?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84345936

Nowhere but in my dreams.

I appreciate that she was my mom, and I have learned how to be a better person and more productive person from her, but don't feel the desire to 'bring her back'. It's enough that she set a fine example of what a human being should be like, in my view.

How do you find comfort in such brutal circumstances?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84345936

Brutal? I wouldn't call it that, of course. I was quite comfortable and happy most of the time. The strange experiences only seemed strange after the fact (such as a group of thugs trying to coax my grandmother and I into their van at a gas station). I don't recall thinking that anything was bad, just anomalous. I was more observant and reflective about the world around me than I am now.

Why did she have to die? Why do the people we love die if we can choose otherwise?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84345936

Death is normal, of course. It's a part of life and is all around us. Our cells are dying as we speak. Why wouldn't we want to choose a natural course of things for those persons and things we love?

How do people in this thread cope with such choices, being told they are the authors of their reality?
You say it may be because the choices we make consciously are very different than the choices we pretend to know nothing about and yet choose.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84345936

Understanding that you are the author of your reality is what we work so hard to resist.

We should resist it, because it is an un-natural understanding. It is more natural to distract oneself with 'things' and dramas, because that is what sustains the senses.

Anything else would be a journey into the Void. I would not wish for anyone else to be aware of what reality is. I hesitate to even talk about it. There is tremendous value in ignorance of the whole of reality.

Understanding reality directly has little, if any, value. So, we break it up and try to understand pieces of what it seems to be: sports, money, relationships, medicine, society, et c.

One has to be very comfortable with not being anything in particular, and perhaps being Nothing at all.

How do you integrate such grief into your belief system?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84345936

There is no need to integrate something that isn't really there in the first place, unless you want to of course.

No one in this thread would find it easy to agree that they chose or are to blame for their loved ones passing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84345936

It's not supposed to be easy. It's supposed to be the most difficult thing that can be imagined, because it means that only the Self exists, and the Self is what 'I' is.

When it's understood, "blame" is irrelevant.

Who or what is to blame for the person that fell off the building in your dream last night? Who is responsible?

You realise that the question is irrelevant because it was "just a dream". Thinking of dreams as 'not real' helps us to sleep better at night, though they are as real -- and perhaps even moreso -- than physical reality. (Read: a metaphysical reality that is interpreted as physical.)

The physical reality is the less real reality, while the metaphysical reality is the more 'real' one.

So, the physical reality is more of a dream. In this dream, who is responsible for the person that fell off the building? It's on the news! Who is responsible for my mother's death? No one. The outer is a reflection of the inner. Certain concepts -- such as 'death' or 'responsibility' -- can only enter the picture when there is a mis-understanding.

Reality has been understood, and talked about, for ages, though this understanding has been corrupted as we found pleasure in Chaos.

Our exploration of Chaos, you could say, is also 'meant to be'. We can only know of things by comparison and relating them together. We can only sense existence by exploring both Chaos and Order, such as I have done and all of us here, too.
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No testing is needed. Just reflections to support the sense of existence.
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It seems to me that "testing" is a very popular form of reflection, contemporary "Christians" like it very much. As I say, the thought was productive and that's all that matters. I know it's not needed but if it helps me do the things I know are "good" but don't necessarily want to do or stop the things I know are "bad" but do want to do, all right! C:
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Sure, it can be thought of that way to make ourselves feel better about things. We can respect an authority who wants to 'test' us, but would abhor experiencing something 'negative' that was our choice to perceive.

The somewhat simple explanation:

When you perceive something you are not perceiving the thing directly (because it does not really exist) but the relationships between the parts that make it up. (As you've seen me type many times.)

When you break down the parts that make up the parts you find 4 things. These 4 things are represented by the 4 symbols. These 4 things are how perspective work.

When you perceive something you are perceiving HOW you perceive rather than perceiving 'something'.

It is you doing the perceiving and it is you who 'chooses' what to perceive, by your focus on those relationships.
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[Emphasis mine]

I (supposedly) understand about the four elements and how, roughly, they "work" together to "make" what ever perception, or that what ever perception is these four elements, it's the bold that seems to trip me up. It has since the Neurotics page with the "Pick Your Apple" section and "you can choose which aspect of something you want to experience by focusing on its neuronic set."

I suppose it's because I'm rather unsure about the initial "aspect" of the thing that I am defining. It seems whenever I try, I can see how what ever thing IS all of the elements and I have a difficult time identifying it's "strongest" or "actual" relationship to my center of Self, and that same "problem" is reflected when I go to define other aspects.
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You're assuming that something is there before you produce it, it seems.

How could you be unsure of what something is if you are producing it in its entirety? YOU decide what it is :)

But in any event I'm unsure about what focus is supposed to look like. Both in general per the below and specifically with Neurotics. I understand what "focus" looks like, or is purported to look like, in other interpretations of reality manipulation, but I haven't put a finger on that with Neuronics.
 Quoting: Sabai 58772605

That's entirely up to you.

It's extremely difficult to get used to the idea of you being the authority of your reality, of course. But it is your reality (and entirely your perspective) after all.

Like, okay now I have this Neuronic symbol. Do I write it in my journal 333 times 3x per day? Do I write it in blood on a mirror at 2:57am humming a specific note? Do I make it and then stop thinking about it? Exaggerations, illustrations of my uncertainty. I just don't know how to make a Neuronic symbols "work" or what to change in my interactions (physical or mental) in response to it.

Again, it's okay and I'm not so wrung up about it anymore. I certainly was a couple months ago, but the focus I can't seem to pin down seems to be on other things atm
 Quoting: Sabai 58772605

You decide that.

I would suggest doing it the easiest way possible, though.

For me, it is:

1) Perceive something
2) Determine its main category from among the four
3) Determine its sub-category from among the four
4) Place it, mentally and with my mouth closed, on a section of my tongue that corresponds to the four symbols
5) Hold it (if I want to add other perceptions) or begin to manipulate it
6) Feel the muscles in my tongue manipulate it to a position I prefer, imagining that its nature is changing

This is just one of the main ways I work with it. Others may prefer other methods. The latter part of #5 was practised first by imagining a contact lens in my mouth, on my tongue, and flipping it around in my imagination until my muscles moved simultaneously with the thought.

Are you asking whether or not physically harming others for your own sustenance is sustainable in your reality, or something else?
 Quoting: The Builder


I suppose that depends if perceiving someone dying irrespective of the manner in which they die all ways constitutes harm to your reality.
 Quoting: Sabai 58772605

I'm sure there would be an increase of magnitude of the perception of 'harm' in one's reality between someone dying relatively peacefully and someone being brutally murdered, but maybe that's just me.

Killing people in order to eat them is obviously unsustainable, but people die all the time without having to kill them and I wonder if it's wrong (bad, unsustainable) to eat them if they pass not by your physical hand and (ideally) with them in life having been okay with the idea of being eaten after they die. Though I suppose it is you who "kills" them by interpreting them as dying, which is sort of why I ask.

Eating people seems to be more sustainable than filling them with chemicals and sticking them in the ground, at any rate. I'm personally a fan of the idea of composting the deceased to create fertile soil, waste not want not and all that. Would eating produce grown in such soil be cannibalism? Lol

The cannibalism question is hypothetical, I have no particular interest in eating human but the — more humorous than anything — logic is "if you are what you eat and you want to be human, why not eat human?"

I think consuming others physically represents a deep love, in the right context. The sacrament of the Eucharist implies as much (though I get that THAT is representative).
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I'll take a pass on that one :)

Are you sure that was me? I doubt if I've ever talked about wheatgrass, but perhaps I'm mistaken.
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It may also be worth considering a change of diet, for the human body has 2 brains (with each brain having 2 aspects). The more emotional brain is in your stomach. Make sure you're getting enough of the three types of potassiums and also iron. Wheatgrass and more sunshine may also help. And, of course, a good and consistent sleep schedule.
 Quoting: The Builder


Indeed c:
 Quoting: Sabai 58772605

Thanks. It appears I was suggesting it for its high level of potassiums, and iron content. I better go drink some wheatgrass now! I don't believe I've ever had the pleasure.

Would you say that you're more enthusiastic about planning something over doing it?
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Oh, yes, definitely.

But, there's at least two types of plans. There are the plans that I do for fun (even though I end up very frustrated because I didn't understand, for a long time, that I was doing them for fun and not results; the confusion caused a lot of pain) that don't tend to go anywhere in the physical, and whatever happens before I actually do something.

Taking the wheatgrass growing example, I have affection for thinking about what the shelves should look like and how I need to space out planting in order to have a harvest cycle, where to put the shelves, what materials to get to build them, etc. But this planning fulfills the relationship of the "thing" and so I never follow through as I don't feel a need to. Again, this has caused a lot of pain since I do want the thing and couldn't understand why I couldn't enact the plan.

But then there's "plans" that DO happen, like planning to go to school or work. Those often don't go to "plan" either, as in I don't wake up with as much time as is needed to get everything done beforehand, for example, and I end up feeling rushed or stressed but I do get to school or work so the "plan" is — more or less successfully — reflected physically. This sort of plan is not defined for me and as of right now I do not know how to codify or streamline it.

It seems of late I'm getting better with my play planning translating to physical, as I said I'm making lotion today. I've been play-planning that for months (the supplies arrive today after having ordered them last Saturday). I've been planning having a particular diet structure for a while, also a couple months at this point probably. I have started to incorporate it now.

So, there's movement in the direction of plans translating into physical representation, but I'm sure there are ways to facilitate the shift.

It's baby steps, though. In that they are small steps in some respects, but are also unstable lurches into the unknown, not knowing what I'm doing. Perhaps someday I'll learn to walk!
 Quoting: Sabai 58772605

Plans for obligations like school or work would be different than plans for leisure, like your wheatgrass experiment. It takes some getting used to, but it seems you're getting there!
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A Dream Within a Dream
By Edgar Allan Poe 1809–1849

Take this kiss upon the brow!
And, in parting from you now,
Thus much let me avow —
You are not wrong, who deem
That my days have been a dream;
Yet if hope has flown away
In a night, or in a day
In a vision, or in none,
Is it therefore the less gone?
All that we see or seem
Is but a dream within a dream.

I stand amid the roar
Of a surf-tormented shore,
And I hold within my hand
Grains of the golden sand —
How few! yet how they creep
Through my fingers to the deep,
While I weep — while I weep!
O God! Can I not grasp
Them with a tighter clasp?
O God! can I not save
One from the pitiless wave?
Is all that we see or seem
But a dream within a dream?
 Quoting: Razvitiye

My favourite poet to read after my mother died and I began asking questions of myself. Thank you for the reminder :)
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Has anyone else noticed an increase in the amount of lucid dreams they're having?

I have been experiencing lucid dreams every night since the 21st of December. They are increasing in duration and vividness as well. Last night I had the most profound dream of my life. I'm going to detail them as a way of helping myself organize my thoughts as well as share insights gained with anyone interested in the subject.

I should make a note that I never use a journal to record my dreams. However, last night my experience was so utterly moving I had to get out of bed, rush to find a pen and pad, and frantically write down all the details. I am very glad I did because the notes I took have kept the images and sounds fresh in my memory.

Those of you who are familiar with lucid dreaming know the phenomenon is often associated with sleep paralysis. Sleep paralysis can be very terrifying for those who are unfamiliar with the experience and is often associated with events such as supposed alien abductions, ghost sightings, demonic attacks, and so on. Essentially the individual is commonly surrounded by darkness and is held down under a crushing weight. There may be a great deal of static or whooshing noises including voices which can at times be threatening. All in all it makes for a difficult and frightfully memorable moment.

Now, I can finally explain the dream I had that was so meaningful to me:

My lucid dream had transitioned into the black void of sleep paralysis. It is darkness blacker than black. However, instead of being a victim to it, I was it's master. In this moment I was not 'I' in the sense of my waking self. I was pure-will and consciousness with all ego removed. I was the true-self.

The familiar crushing weight was instead a heavy wind that I walked against. The void tried to suck me in, sinking me in the murky dark, however my intent was sharp and I willed solid ground on which to tread forward. I was pure intent trying to push myself through the boundaries of consciousness to the other side. I am convinced the lucid dream is a gateway.

While pushing forward the following words speak from the heart of my soul:

"I am no longer frightened by the gatekeepers I have created to make myself afraid of reaching this point. I am traveling in my own mind and I am the imagination of myself! I am moving forward with intent, willpower, and absolute control."

I kept moving on through the dark maelstrom. There was no fear. I was literally the mind of God traversing nothingness, not in the sense of the vacuum of space, but absolute unrelated dimension. (If that makes any sense at all.)

To this consciousness, all is a dream. I could understand clearly that I was asleep. However, I knew for absolute certain that the same is true in waking life. I knew my goal was an experience beyond the consciousness I have known. I would never see anyone I knew in life again but it was of absolutely no consequence. The entire 'real world' was but fragments of memory created by my imagination. I was going to be born anew to an unimaginable existence. I was less than an inch away, but space wasn't important in this void, I knew I was right on the limit. At the turning point of never going back to what I was before.

And then I woke up. My body was tingling and I felt like I had electricity coursing through every single nerve. Additionally, I was overwhelmed with a feeling that a massive boundary had been broken through.

I am still shaken by last night. I have never in my life experienced such a crisp and clear moment of consciousness. Who I am as a person was not relevant whatsoever. I just was. All was truth and there was now deception in this 'place'. I literally knew I was the mind of God attempting to do something amazing. Furthermore, I cannot help but carry over the notion of existing within the thought-process of God into my waking reality. Could this all be just a giant dream and we are all pretending to be individuals? For most of you out there that may sound absurd. To me, at this moment, that premise is an absolute certainty.


I had another lucid dream. I was in a room filled with people. They were all talking and going about their business. Then I realized I was dreaming. I stood up and formally addressed the crowd of the following:

"None of you are real. Right now I am dreaming and you're all characters in that dream."

Of course they didn't believe me one bit. I performed a miracle to be a bit more convincing. At this they began to panic and become upset. We were truly in a dream together.

To ease the pain of being an imaginary character I then created $3,000,000.00 USD in the blink of an eye for each and every individual in the room. This made all my dream characters very happy.


Looking back at the dream now I laugh because it is quite silly. However, what is most striking to me about the experience is the fact that I ignored the possibility that I too was just a character in the dream. I wasn't anymore real than any other in the illusory crowd.

I maintain the stance that you and I are both God swimming in the most complicated and exhausting illusion ever created. In addition we created this thing and it can be beaten.

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How everything intersects in what the Builder says and information from other sources... (although we ourselves are the source of everything.... horror!!!)
 Quoting: Razvitiye

I hope this gives you a new sense of life and purpose :)
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This film also echoes the thoughts of the Builder.


 Quoting: Razvitiye

Right now these clips are touching someone at a loss for explaining the 'beautiful chaos' in the mind. Perhaps they are wondering how their choices of words and actions work to serve -- or disserve -- their experiences. "Is the service guy responsible for what happened to me? Why did he do this? Oh, wait... I am responsible for my reality. There is no need to be an a-hole to my own self."

One of the characters reminds me of him a little.

Nice video, and well-timed.
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I’ve been going through some massive changes some I welcome, others I have to accept and make peace with. Compromises abound in my reality atm.
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

I hope you are making the most out of whatever 'lessons' they may avail.
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I think the biggest lesson for me has been to tend my local. To assess the relationships closest to me. Including the one to myself - which is proving to be the hardest for me to make peace with at the moment.

The massive changes I am talking about are not only recent but also in the context of the last couple of years. It’s like my structure has been popped. My identity stricken. All the things I thought made up me - shattered. It’s proven very difficult in many regards. It’s left me feeling like I wasted my life on nothing of real importance. Like I did a disservice to my children.

Here I am on the other side of trauma having a hard time recognizing myself. This new version of me. It’s like I saw through the illusion that was my life, that was me. It’s left me disillusioned. Disheartened.

I’ve made many compromises this last year+ and am really trying to figure out if it’s worth it and am I willing to do it for the long haul. I don’t know that I am. Yet at the same time, looking at what my options are realistically. How to strike a healthy balance.

I don’t feel like myself anymore. And I’m not sure how to move from here. It feels like a legit mid-life crisis.

I don’t really want to say it aloud, but if I’m being honest, I’m struggling with loving myself in this new light. Sometimes I wish I could turn back the clock.

I know you’re gonna say watch my language - having a hard time, struggling, et c. - but it’s how I feel right now and don’t necessarily know how to resolve those feelings and embrace this version of me.

On the other side, I have been walking several times a week, every week for 6 months now. (My dogs are stoked). I am 4 months in on no smoking and not struggling with it at all (but not loving the weight gain). Being a Grandma is the best kind of love. My ranch is on the market. I have plans to travel and see my family for quality time. In many regards, life is good….

In the midst of change and not necessarily seeing the “lesson” in its totality yet.

2021 really fucked my world up.
2022 was about getting back to base - whatever that is.
2023 ??? “How I Learned to Love All of Me”. Even the pieces I don’t like or see.

For the first time in my life I feel old. Uninspired. Worn down. I guess even a little depressed which is way out of character for me. It’s proving harder to make the leap. Like I’m just settling instead of manifesting and thriving.

My heart is broken in a way.

Any actionable tips would be appreciated
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What you're going through is probably a taste of what many of us will go through when presented with a different kind of reality than the one we thought we were surrounded by.

Level 1: "Things are great! Life is awesome. I am becoming who I am!"

Level 2: "Maybe things aren't so great. There's so much wrong. Who am I?!? Why am I here?"

Level 3: "Every thing I like or don't has some kind of value, depending on how it's looked at. What is "bad" isn't really that bad, and what is "good" isn't really that good. It doesn't really matter, does it? Not only are these different perspectives valid, I can change them as I want."

Right now, we could say that humanity has been at a level 2 for about twenty years. Many of us have been questioning reality, society, family, and the world around us. In this way, your place in this crazy narrative could be quite special.

Venturing to the next level can be most difficult. It involves a re-union, of sorts, with what you've loved but grown to despise and a re-thinking of what you thought was good and evil.

It is 'learning to love your enemies' and realising that they are not separate people, but your own perspectives. It is the habits that you've outgrown, the tastes in certain pleasures that now sicken you, and people you've made distant in various ways.

It is an acceptance of your complete perspective rather than just part of it.

The levels in one aspect could be like this:

1: I love watching Dwayne Johnson in films, listing to Jim Morrison, and even 50 Cent!

2: I have been deceived and am somewhat disgusted. The women are men and the men are women, and they have all been dishing out destructive propaganda to the masses without their knowledge. There is so much crap going on, and it's all coming from the same source. It's satanic.

3: Good and evil are like yin and yang. Each needs the other to survive. There can be good in evil, and evil in good. Even oxygen is harmful to the metals that surround us. We can respect different perspectives and ways of life, and even understand them. Now I find new pleasure in watching Hollywood films and listening to music, because I have a better understanding of all that is involved.

While the average person will not reach the level of understanding that they are their reality for, likely, hundreds or a thousand years or more, they can learn to accept the validity of the 'bad' things that people choose, changing their perspective of those things that they would normally reject.

It is 'spiritual wealth'. The freedom to choose from among vast resources of perspective. Watch the woman who looks like Hercules play an entertaining role with a man who looks like a woman, or not.

I mentioned electricity before and how this can be integrated into 'the new world' but there is so much else that can be considered harmful that we can make innocuous by a change in perspective.

But first, we need the perspective that level 2 afford.

This is not a battle against evil so much as it is resolving the tensions in our own perspective.

You may soon have a desire to take a new look at the things you've directly or indirectly pushed away over the past couple of years. It will be tough, yes, but you will also feel in control over your own choices.

To do or not to do. That is the spirit.

It may be time to accept your whole Self and experience a happiness, a wholeness, and a sense of love like you've never felt before.
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An other way of looking at it:

Level 1: "My reality is controlled by authorities"

Level 2: "My reality is controlled by elites who are evil and don't care for regular people"

Level 3: "*I* am the authority of my reality and *I* choose to interpret it how I want" (i.e., in the way most useful at the time).

Again, humanity won't reach the realisation that level 3 confers for some time, but it can be seen as a 'taking charge' of reality and being more in control of society than before in the way of finance, media, technology, and so on.

The 'decentralisation' narrative in crypto-currency is an introduction to it, though that itself is just a different form of control that is needed to get people thinking that real, practical control is not only possible but within reach.
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I just miss my sister's innocence and honesty.The rest, I accepted at the time and grew to understand the purpose of.

I'm happy to think of my mother sometimes and have her in my dreams. I don't remember thinking that I wanted her back. It would not have made sense to me, I think.

Nowhere but in my dreams.

I appreciate that she was my mom, and I have learned how to be a better person and more productive person from her, but don't feel the desire to 'bring her back'. It's enough that she set a fine example of what a human being should be like, in my view.

How do you integrate such grief into your belief system?
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There is no need to integrate something that isn't really there in the first place, unless you want to of course.

No one in this thread would find it easy to agree that they chose or are to blame for their loved ones passing.
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It's not supposed to be easy. It's supposed to be the most difficult thing that can be imagined, because it means that only the Self exists, and the Self is what 'I' is.

When it's understood, "blame" is irrelevant.
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I think I understand the gist of where you're coming from.
When you begin to see others as extensions of you, concepts of 'missing' them or their 'death' or other negative feelings slowly dissipate -- you never technically part.
You appreciate your mom, but you also see your mom as part of the whole you, so things like grief is irrelevant for that requires a feeling of separation.
Compound this with how the physical is within the mind, but a dream of sorts, and so dreaming of your mother is the same as visiting her for Eternity.

Am I understanding correctly?

One more question:
Let's say your sister died suddenly this week.
How would you go about handling that?
What would you do?
Would you revert her death if you could?
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Also, a quote to contribute to the thoughts of dreams:


In your own bosom you bear your heaven and earth,
And all you behold, though it appears without,
It is within, in your imagination,
Of which this world of mortality is but a shadow.

-- William Blake
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How can one interpret their past dreams?
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Any way one likes. There is no correct interpretation, as that would imply a truthful interpretation.

It often troubles me that dreams can be relevant to the events of the day.
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Yes, because they are experienced at the same time. Two ways of experiencing the same thing.

Both are, as previously mentioned, how you perceive rather than perceptions of something. (Nothing is actually being perceived.)

That is to say, when you dream you are perceiving the method of dreaming rather than having different dreams. There is only one dream interpreted in a seemingly endless variety of ways, and that dream is also waking reality. Both are the same media, and only the media is perceived.

For instance, if a dream reveals a sense of deception, it's challenging to dismiss its significance and ignore its potential meaning.

It's path of least resistance to carry over the emotions and distress from the dream that has revealed hidden meanings into the following day.

Could my subconscious be re-engineering my body to behave according to its own preferences?
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It's just a simultaneous experience.

Does the term "upside down" hold any significance in the interpretation of dreams?
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Different perceptions (or what seem like different perceptions) work by inverting some relationships. Physically-speaking, the metaphysical world is upside-down from the physical one. In more ways than one.

Tomorrow, I plan to try an anti-grumpy morning treat. The first quote I read reminded me of a morning of 2016 a feeling of childlike freedom, as if there are no rules holding me back that lead that day to success.
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Careful not to focus on "grumpy", as being anti-grumpy would dictate ;)
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This film also echoes the thoughts of the Builder.


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Right now these clips are touching someone at a loss for explaining the 'beautiful chaos' in the mind. Perhaps they are wondering how their choices of words and actions work to serve -- or disserve -- their experiences. "Is the service guy responsible for what happened to me? Why did he do this? Oh, wait... I am responsible for my reality. There is no need to be an a-hole to my own self."

One of the characters reminds me of him a little.

Nice video, and well-timed.
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I am a person who is frustrated by my circumstances and the harsh realities of life. I am angry and frustrated that things don't always turn out the way I want or that I don't have the power to change things the way I want. It's hard for me to learn to accept reality as it is and keep looking for ways to deal with all the problems and hardships that I face. I just feel desperate.
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I just miss my sister's innocence and honesty.The rest, I accepted at the time and grew to understand the purpose of.

I'm happy to think of my mother sometimes and have her in my dreams. I don't remember thinking that I wanted her back. It would not have made sense to me, I think.

Nowhere but in my dreams.

I appreciate that she was my mom, and I have learned how to be a better person and more productive person from her, but don't feel the desire to 'bring her back'. It's enough that she set a fine example of what a human being should be like, in my view.

How do you integrate such grief into your belief system?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84345936

There is no need to integrate something that isn't really there in the first place, unless you want to of course.

No one in this thread would find it easy to agree that they chose or are to blame for their loved ones passing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84345936

It's not supposed to be easy. It's supposed to be the most difficult thing that can be imagined, because it means that only the Self exists, and the Self is what 'I' is.

When it's understood, "blame" is irrelevant.
 Quoting: The Builder


I think I understand the gist of where you're coming from.
When you begin to see others as extensions of you, concepts of 'missing' them or their 'death' or other negative feelings slowly dissipate -- you never technically part.
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Yes, and when she died I began to ponder the meaning of life and come to terms with her death before I was certain that she died. That was about an 8-month stretch. From then, I began to see events as 'perfect', despite initial appearances.

You appreciate your mom, but you also see your mom as part of the whole you, so things like grief is irrelevant for that requires a feeling of separation.
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It helped that I was in touch with two very powerful minds during that time that inspired new perspectives.

One, a girl who grew up as an Australian aborigine and whose father was a famous shaman, as I discussed before, talked to me extensively about everyday life and helped me to better-understand how others might see things. We talked before and after my mom died.

The other I met a few years later. I had not believed in 'psychic powers' before I met her, but she opened my mind up to metaphysical possibilities, talked about reality, and things like that. I'm sure that she was the one that helped me with any 'fear of abandonment' before it became an issue. She was very much into self-improvement. That she could tell me what the previous girl was wearing in the place that she was at (a kind of retreat), what city she was in, and her new telephone number really blew my mind.

Compound this with how the physical is within the mind, but a dream of sorts, and so dreaming of your mother is the same as visiting her for Eternity.

Am I understanding correctly?
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Yes. She is alive within me, even if it is not physical like before. It seems more real because I feel closer and more understanding of her in that state.

One more question:
Let's say your sister died suddenly this week.
How would you go about handling that?
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I would probably begin to read old emails of our conversations and think about her plenty. Although I don't feel nearly as close to her as I did when we were growing up, I think I would appreciate her choices more.

What would you do?
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Probably have a big cry and be happy that she has reached some kind of resolution in her life.

Would you revert her death if you could?
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No. I don't feel the need to undo that kind of thing for my own benefit. I may, however, write her a 'final letter' to let her know my deepest thoughts about our relationship.
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Also, a quote to contribute to the thoughts of dreams:


In your own bosom you bear your heaven and earth,
And all you behold, though it appears without,
It is within, in your imagination,
Of which this world of mortality is but a shadow.

-- William Blake
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Nice. An other of Blake's:

The guests are scatter’d thro’ the land,
For the eye altering alters all;
The senses roll themselves in fear,
And the flat earth becomes a ball;
The stars, sun, moon, all shrink away,
A desert vast without a bound,
And nothing left to eat or drink,
And a dark desert all around.


The Mental Traveller
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This film also echoes the thoughts of the Builder.

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Right now these clips are touching someone at a loss for explaining the 'beautiful chaos' in the mind. Perhaps they are wondering how their choices of words and actions work to serve -- or disserve -- their experiences. "Is the service guy responsible for what happened to me? Why did he do this? Oh, wait... I am responsible for my reality. There is no need to be an a-hole to my own self."

One of the characters reminds me of him a little.

Nice video, and well-timed.
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I am a person who is frustrated by my circumstances and the harsh realities of life. I am angry and frustrated that things don't always turn out the way I want or that I don't have the power to change things the way I want. It's hard for me to learn to accept reality as it is and keep looking for ways to deal with all the problems and hardships that I face. I just feel desperate.
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It sounds like some of us may need to watch the whole film, if we have not all ready.



Perhaps the service guy would say something like the following:

It is not enough to search for answers. What will you do when you find them? Anything?

What is keeping you from doing that now? Why await an answer that may never come, or may not even be possible? If you're not doing what you need to do now, the answer isn't that important. You're just using your search for "the truth" as an excuse to do nothing so you can feel better about your lack of ambition in a reality where you make your own purpose.

"So what do I do?" you might wonder.

It doesn't matter. Something is better than nothing. Nothing is depressing. That is why we produce all of these fine-grained distractions. You've distracted yourself so effectively that you forgot where you own perceptions come from.

Perhaps there is no need to look behind every door or under every paper for "something more". Maybe the purpose of the door or paper is to simply make use of it. Maybe people just enjoy taking photographs or bicycling, for example, and that is enough.

You don't need to feel in control of reality or feel like you're getting what you want. There's no need to have such a small view of yourself. You are EVERYTHING. You all ways get what you want, even when the smaller version of yourself that you want to be gets nothing.

You need no answers. You either DO something, or feel nothing.

If you don't care about the power you have to interpret things in the way you want, how would you handle the power you have to change things the way you want? It's the same thing, and you're interested in neither. You want things handed to you because it removes you from being responsible for more than you can imagine.

Killing yourself is not only impossible (since it is YOU, not someone you know or on television), it would worsen your state. That would be evidence of your rejection of your own reality, of your own production! It would be, in a way, quite pathetic that you could produce anything in your imagination and you did just that, only to hate it and try to destroy not only it, but yourself.

You're not 'supposed to do' anything. That is what we hate. That is why we spend lifetimes looking for answers. We think there must be something more than complete freedom to perceive and experience whatever we can imagine. We are very spoiled, in a way. We have everything, don't want to be Nothing, and reject our own endless being in order to forget that we can only perceive of ourselves. It is something that we can neither accept nor avoid.

We have only to learn to make use of what we think we hate, or ignore what we think we don't want, to be satisfied with who we are. The more of one's reality one grows to 'hate' the more work there is to be done.
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It sounds like some of us may need to watch the whole film, if we have not all ready.



Perhaps the service guy would say something like the following:

It is not enough to search for answers. What will you do when you find them? Anything?

What is keeping you from doing that now? Why await an answer that may never come, or may not even be possible? If you're not doing what you need to do now, the answer isn't that important. You're just using your search for "the truth" as an excuse to do nothing so you can feel better about your lack of ambition in a reality where you make your own purpose.

"So what do I do?" you might wonder.

It doesn't matter. Something is better than nothing. Nothing is depressing. That is why we produce all of these fine-grained distractions. You've distracted yourself so effectively that you forgot where you own perceptions come from.

Perhaps there is no need to look behind every door or under every paper for "something more". Maybe the purpose of the door or paper is to simply make use of it. Maybe people just enjoy taking photographs or bicycling, for example, and that is enough.

You don't need to feel in control of reality or feel like you're getting what you want. There's no need to have such a small view of yourself. You are EVERYTHING. You all ways get what you want, even when the smaller version of yourself that you want to be gets nothing.

You need no answers. You either DO something, or feel nothing.

If you don't care about the power you have to interpret things in the way you want, how would you handle the power you have to change things the way you want? It's the same thing, and you're interested in neither. You want things handed to you because it removes you from being responsible for more than you can imagine.

Killing yourself is not only impossible (since it is YOU, not someone you know or on television), it would worsen your state. That would be evidence of your rejection of your own reality, of your own production! It would be, in a way, quite pathetic that you could produce anything in your imagination and you did just that, only to hate it and try to destroy not only it, but yourself.

You're not 'supposed to do' anything. That is what we hate. That is why we spend lifetimes looking for answers. We think there must be something more than complete freedom to perceive and experience whatever we can imagine. We are very spoiled, in a way. We have everything, don't want to be Nothing, and reject our own endless being in order to forget that we can only perceive of ourselves. It is something that we can neither accept nor avoid.

We have only to learn to make use of what we think we hate, or ignore what we think we don't want, to be satisfied with who we are. The more of one's reality one grows to 'hate' the more work there is to be done.
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I have watched this movie several times. Phrases like: "Now is all you have", "There is no beginning or end, there is only action", "We suffer from the fact that we do not get what we want, and if we get, we still suffer, because we can't keep it forever", "The path makes us happy, not the goal", "Life is a mystery. Don't waste time trying to reveal it", "Knowledge and wisdom are not the same".
Yes, these are brilliant phrases, but as we were told in school: "The system can give you knowledge, but you gain understanding on your own." So, I stubbornly do not gain an understanding of either these phrases or what you, the Builder, are trying to convey. There seems to be something wrong with me.
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I have watched this movie several times. Phrases like: "Now is all you have", "There is no beginning or end, there is only action", "We suffer from the fact that we do not get what we want, and if we get, we still suffer, because we can't keep it forever", "The path makes us happy, not the goal", "Life is a mystery. Don't waste time trying to reveal it", "Knowledge and wisdom are not the same".
Yes, these are brilliant phrases, but as we were told in school: "The system can give you knowledge, but you gain understanding on your own." So, I stubbornly do not gain an understanding of either these phrases or what you, the Builder, are trying to convey. There seems to be something wrong with me.
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Can you provide an example of a phrase (any phrase) that you think you do have an understanding of?
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How could that aspect of you be moreso? Expressing who and what you really are?
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After reading everything you have told us about I would answer it as follows:
By realizing that I am everything I perceive. I would also assume responsibility of my current reality and change the way I interpret it starting right now.
Then, knowing that there is no good or bad, I'd lead a virtuous and productive life, doing to others only as I would do to myself.

However, I'd assume that for many aspects of myself it is hard to capture this sense, even though we received the most detailed theoretical knowledge about it. So the following question arises:

Are there any exercises to help me capture the sense that I am all I perceive when first learning about it in theory? Like breathing techniques, and forms of meditation that can help you transition from aspect-centered to a more "decentralized" or wholistic sense of self?

Or is it as simple as doing to others only as I would do to myself in response to everything that gives me a sense of existence?

Also, how does the "philosophers' stone" fit into all this? I have a feeling there is a connection that I might not be directly aware of.

1) The Bible (and all other religious texts before about 1300) are about how the human body and mind work and keeping it healthy in various ways. It explains the spheres (planets), sun, and everything else that make up human reality.
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Perhaps you can share some relevant (translated) bible verses relating to the purification of the body/mind so I can experiment living according to it. Or at least give us some hints on how to replace certain words with others. It would be very interesting to undergo a quest like this.

Thanks OP!
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I have watched this movie several times. Phrases like: "Now is all you have", "There is no beginning or end, there is only action", "We suffer from the fact that we do not get what we want, and if we get, we still suffer, because we can't keep it forever", "The path makes us happy, not the goal", "Life is a mystery. Don't waste time trying to reveal it", "Knowledge and wisdom are not the same".
Yes, these are brilliant phrases, but as we were told in school: "The system can give you knowledge, but you gain understanding on your own." So, I stubbornly do not gain an understanding of either these phrases or what you, the Builder, are trying to convey. There seems to be something wrong with me.
 Quoting: Razvitiye

Can you provide an example of a phrase (any phrase) that you think you do have an understanding of?
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As an example, the phrase: "knowledge and wisdom are not the same thing." Mankind has gained knowledge of how to extract energy from nuclear reactions. To understand these processes, you need to be smart enough, but in order not to use this energy to destroy cities and kill civilians (I look frowningly at the military), you need to be wise.
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{snippies…}

You may soon have a desire to take a new look at the things you've directly or indirectly pushed away over the past couple of years. It will be tough, yes, but you will also feel in control over your own choices.

To do or not to do. That is the spirit.

It may be time to accept your whole Self and experience a happiness, a wholeness, and a sense of love like you've never felt before.
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So pretty much this is just part of my process of becoming who and what I really am. I can honestly say my life has been everything under the sun at this point. The whole gamut. Full spectrum.

Looking forward to experiencing “a happiness, a wholeness, and a sense of love like I’ve never felt before”. Can’t happen soon enough.

I am ready, willing and open to taking a fresh look, answering the tough questions, doing the work. Can’t stop now - must see this through.

I haven’t said it in a while - thank you Anthony - for the role you play in my life. Even at such a distance and being words on a screen, our relating has been impactful :)
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I mentioned electricity before and how this can be integrated into 'the new world' but there is so much else that can be considered harmful that we can make innocuous by a change in perspective.
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Would you say more about the ‘new world’ and what some of these changes in perspective are?
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Felt like sharing this poem again. Taking on even more meaning at this time for me. How many caterpillars have I been? Butterflies? It’s an ongoing process it seems….


Emergence

I am the caterpillar
Entering the pupa stage
Shedding my skin
For the last time

Building the Golden Chrysalis
My shelter
Upside down
Dissolving next to Nothing

Alone

I have become unlocked
Digesting myself
From the inside, out
Informing my reorganization

Imaginal cells begin to take shape
The structure of what’s to come
A new heart and mind
Anything can be anything

My transformation
Wings and all
Preparing me
Eclosion

The next Book of (my) Life
Being written before my eyes
It’s time for my Maiden flight
Lord have mercy on me

A living resurrection
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So good to see you back Chaol! I see I have some catching up to do! How are things? How’s the Mrs?
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Are you still paying for states worth the price?


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Thank you to those who helped me so much without obsessing over getting the credit or recognition for the great service you performed when i needed some help. I don't know why you helped but I appreciate it. I look to your example for my own attitude. You and those just like you have given me so much to consider. I can feel myself growing and that is astounding. So, thank you. I admire you greatly. I wish for you the deepest and most sublime of satisfaction in the daily; I wish for you relief and rejuvenation in the time of burden. I pray for your health and growth in wisdom. To the time we meet in heaven shall we go. I love you, thank you, and no homo; and no offense.


How and where, and how much? Let's keep things honest. There is no way to produce authentic states through artifice. Nonetheless at times in our humble, yet authentic moments, something new may well arise.

In that case....I'd want to get paid! Help me out here peace
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I have been thinking of doing a translation of the 'Holy Bible' to illustrate its original meaning. This effort would probably take a great number of years (though much of it is executing the Find and Replace function for words), but it would answer a tremendous amount of questions and make so much obvious.
 Quoting: The Builder


I would love to read this. It sounds like a huge undertaking and an enormous amount of work. But I sure hope it’s something you end up doing. It seems so much has been ‘lost in translation’ and that something like this could lead to greater understanding.
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How could that aspect of you be moreso? Expressing who and what you really are?
 Quoting: The Builder


After reading everything you have told us about I would answer it as follows:
By realizing that I am everything I perceive. I would also assume responsibility of my current reality and change the way I interpret it starting right now.
Then, knowing that there is no good or bad, I'd lead a virtuous and productive life, doing to others only as I would do to myself.

However, I'd assume that for many aspects of myself it is hard to capture this sense, even though we received the most detailed theoretical knowledge about it. So the following question arises:

Are there any exercises to help me capture the sense that I am all I perceive when first learning about it in theory?
 Quoting: gallade17

Yes, and every aspect is sensing it now -- each in a different way -- as each experiences 'existence'.

All of that you know and see is part of that sense. It is also shocking -- and dangerous -- to remember that your essence is everything. The awareness is 'spread' out over time and space, so to speak. It is spread out over seemingly endless dramas are epochs of ignorance, also.

That is how very difficult it is to accept.

The point, however, is not to re-member yourself. The point is to forget so that you can maintain your sense of existence. (It is no fun to re-member the Absolute, because you would not then be able to perceive of yourself. You can only perceive of yourself as the Absolute by forgetting that you are.)

Like breathing techniques, and forms of meditation that can help you transition from aspect-centered to a more "decentralized" or wholistic sense of self?
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You can think of it as not actively realising that you are what you perceive, but living as though you are. (If you actively realised it, you would not perceive any separation, such as you do not with your body.)

This sense would not be 'evolved', it would just be different. Your body and personhood are intended to be the maximum wholistic forms in physicality. One is not meant to 'merge' into anything because one's physical body all ready is.

The metaphysical world of which I speak (the 'second Earth' that we all have a life in at the same time as we do here) is not any more whole, overall, than where you stand right now. We still need dramas to have the sense of existence, so we produce them.

We have a choice -- right now -- to change the kind of dramas we turn to for our sense.

Allow me to illustrate it like this:

The 'physical world' (this Earth): Going to a cafe to hang out with friends and strangers

The 'metaphysical world' (the other Earth): Going to a cafe to see your Self being expressed in a particular way.

It is thinking of 'Self' not as your person (the body and mind that you know) but as reality itself. People, things, et c., still have their own lives but the purpose is the same.

It is an understanding that we -- along with everything else in and of reality -- is the same Self.

Or is it as simple as doing to others only as I would do to myself in response to everything that gives me a sense of existence?
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One would not need to treat others as themselves, but one would be able to see how their actions towards others affects themselves. It would become part of a common understanding as people relate their experiences -- even before the shift in thinking -- and see how their actions towards other things and people related to something else that they experienced.

This general understanding would act as an incentive, though one would still have the freedom to be unkind towards others.

Also, how does the "philosophers' stone" fit into all this? I have a feeling there is a connection that I might not be directly aware of.
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It's just the pineal gland, which everyone has. It is the seat of physical perception -- and also changes of perspective.

Read the Wikipedia entry on <<philosopher's stone>> in this context.

1) The Bible (and all other religious texts before about 1300) are about how the human body and mind work and keeping it healthy in various ways. It explains the spheres (planets), sun, and everything else that make up human reality.
 Quoting: The Builder


Perhaps you can share some relevant (translated) bible verses relating to the purification of the body/mind so I can experiment living according to it. Or at least give us some hints on how to replace certain words with others. It would be very interesting to undergo a quest like this.

Thanks OP!
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Yes, but in time. It's a highly contentious topic, and I'm certain that it would be too early now for even a single verse.

For now, just one clue.

The 'pharaohs' were different types of major vitamins, minerals, et c., in the body. Over time, "ferrum" (now just one type, 'iron') became "pharaoh" and the pharaohs were slowly thought of as being actual people. (The first pharaoh, for example, "Nebpehtire" means 'the moon is born' and is nephrite, a variety of calcium, magnesium, and iron-rich amphibole minerals. 'Neptune' was its associated sphere, or modern planet.)

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Also, how does the "philosophers' stone" fit into all this? I have a feeling there is a connection that I might not be directly aware of.
 Quoting: gallade17

It's just the pineal gland, which everyone has. It is the seat of physical perception -- and also changes of perspective.

Read the Wikipedia entry on <<philosopher's stone>> in this context.
 Quoting: The Builder

Now, let me ask you :)

If the <<philosopher's stone>> can change base metals into gold, and the pineal gland is the 'inner sun' (or, Geezis, the black sun, or the seat of the Soul), why was gold so coveted?

How is gold related to the sun?

What function might it serve?

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