Godlike Productions - Discussion Forum
Users Online Now: 2,047 (Who's On?)Visitors Today: 486,218
Pageviews Today: 828,218Threads Today: 364Posts Today: 5,535
10:41 AM


Rate this Thread

Absolute BS Crap Reasonable Nice Amazing
 

Notes from an "alternate universe": The Revelation of the Real World

 
Sabai_Adonais

User ID: 80635221
United States
07/18/2022 04:23 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Notes from an "alternate universe": The Revelation of the Real World
Hmm, goals have changed. The story still requires me to ""go back"" to 2012 tho. But now for much more usefuller purposes
The Builder  (OP)

User ID: 83864883
Thailand
07/18/2022 10:18 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Notes from an "alternate universe": The Revelation of the Real World

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11798990

Thanks :)


video 6: <<Beyond the Red Pill: Top 10 Black Pills About America>> [link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
The Builder  (OP)

User ID: 83865059
Thailand
07/18/2022 10:46 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Notes from an "alternate universe": The Revelation of the Real World
No, of course the experience is still present, but the
Would you say that your 'subconscious' self would want you to appreciate this, or be aware of the decision?
 Quoting: The Builder


I would say that it doesn't matter to the "subconscious" self. All that "matters" to "it" is feeling that it exists, no? If that's the case, then an experience is an experience is an experience. And appreciating difference is an experience.
 Quoting: Sabai_Adonais

Some experiences have more value than others, as some experiences make one feel more like one exists than others.

We participate in the particular cults that we do because of the value that they have for us. We might focus on 'our' sports team rather than doing something more productive, for example. For some, it's a certain kind of music.

I'm not sure where 'appreciating difference' ranks in comparison to all of the cults and systems out there that do this job.

With some things, I wouldn't care if my "conscious self" wasn't aware of the difference. I'd be quite content to just have an even complexion and a clean house, not knowing the experience of anything else.

With other things, appreciating the difference is the experience, like with my quest to ""time travel,"" that's moot if I don't know the difference between 2022 and 2012. The primary intended experience, then, isn't even to "make the different decisions" or to see-again the expressions of relationships as I remember them, but to know the difference and thus make different things relative "going forward"

It may not be relevant to the Self, but to the "conscious self" or whatever one'd call it, comparison is what makes the good things good and the bad things bad. Interpretations, all, of course, but the difference is what makes some appreciate what they're experiencing in the now-present. Not all; some get too hot in the summer and complain. Some, though, get hot and find it thoroughly enjoyable even if it's "too hot" because the winter was definitely "too cold," though the "too cold" was also enjoyed because they remembered how hot they were in the summer.
 Quoting: Sabai_Adonais

There's a difference between 'experiencing reality because of difference' and 'appreciating the difference' :)

The former is where most of the value is, while the latter goes mostly unnoticed.

"Magenta" didn't exist before just now. I just made it up. It seems as though it's always existed, and I can have many experiences surrounding perceiving the color magenta and the ideas associated with it without being aware of just how I "made it come in to existence," but the perception of "making something come into existence" is an other flavor of perception unto itself. And I think that there is also value in that experience, as there must be because it is an experience.
 Quoting: Sabai_Adonais

You also make up everything else that you are experiencing, just now. You aren't aware of 'decisions', nor do you need to be. (More accurately than a 'deicion', you experience that which is most relative.)
 Quoting: The Builder


This is getting into the illusion of free will, which I've gathered isn't your favorite topic of discussion at the 2009-to-now-present. Free will may not exist, but the illusion of it does, which seems to be enough. Which must be as true as it can be because "Here, We Uncover the Deception, Understand Why It Was Needed in the First Place, and Regain Our Sense of Self to Walk Along the Path of Freedom and Prosperity. The Choice, As All Ways, is Yours To Make

But then how to make the "choice" that's not a choice?:)
 Quoting: Sabai_Adonais

'Free will' exists, but not in the way we would usually think about it.

We are free to choose what we 'want'. More than a choice, however, you are producing it.

One is free to choose from among perspectives that all-ready exist because they do not exist any more than perspectives that aren't there. One produces as one goes along, from scratch.

We make a choice that is not a choice by building its reality :)

Hello.

Say, for example, there was a task to speak and comprehend Spanish fluently.
The current perspective only understands English.

What relationships need to come into view to "skip" the learning and instead know Spanish?

Current methodology for most perspectives wanting a new language would be building relationships with "flash cards" or have an "immersion approach".
Yet both of these relationships are perceived as learning and take ample "linear time".

What relationships could be built to know Spanish once more, instead of "learning" it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83032977


This is a good question. If "learning" is just a process by which to illustrate relativity like I sorta talked about above, certainly the process could be abridged. Though, if you change the relationships, would you remember learning Spanish in "the past" or would you suddenly just know Spanish without "memory" of having learned it?
 Quoting: Sabai_Adonais

It depends on the system you've set up to realise that.

Do you have a memory of inventing the entire English language just now?
video 6: <<Beyond the Red Pill: Top 10 Black Pills About America>> [link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
The Builder  (OP)

User ID: 83865059
Thailand
07/18/2022 11:36 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Notes from an "alternate universe": The Revelation of the Real World
Think of it this way... if your subconscious self was sending you a message, so to speak, that you think says "turn right" it actually says "turn left".

There are times we forget this (such as now) and times we remember it. When we forget, the world turns to the opposite of what is was before.
 Quoting: The Builder


This is a fascinating thread of logic.
So perspectives are programmed so extensively that fear is both the door and the prison.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83032977

Imagine that you are Absolute and you have no way to perceive of anything, including yourself.

You then decide to forget about parts of yourself so that there seems to be other things with which to compare against. The more comparisons you can make the more real things seem.

You sacrifice your Absoluteness for reality, however. You don't really care because existence feels pretty awesome.

In order to (seem to) exist, however, you need to distract yourself with something.

The first thing you find is fear. You're afraid of existence being 'taken away' if you figure out the reality, so you build all kinds of systems to distract you from it. The more engaging the system the better you can solidify your existence.

We are not in a prison, however. We build this because it is what we require for our existence. The question is simply, "How much ______ do I need to feel like I exist?"

What is a prison that we build for ourselves and we can leave at any moment?

If you can feel 'I exist' with 1 grain of sugar, metaphorically-speaking, then congratulations! But if you find yourself needing more and more grains in order to get that feeling, then you've stepped into an escalating Chaos loop.

Recently saw a ghost upon waking.
It was floating, a tint of blue, back turned.
Absurd amount of detail.

Suffice to say the fear-factor of sleeping & dark rooms has been amped up.

What are some materials to better remember this strange paradox? ...And break past it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83032977

May I ask, why would you want to break past it?

Ironic to ask, as it seems the common thread here is that the perspective alone determines how!

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83032977

Yes. Just keep in mind that what you want is irrelevant. It's all about the systems you build to make it happen.

Surely there practical uses of fear...
Beyond perspectives exploring the feeling, as you've detailed here:

From my observations about humanity, most of what we want is to feel the want rather than to actually 'have' it. There could be more value in the wanting than pursuing the want, like a journey being sometimes more valuable than its destination.

 Quoting: The Builder


It seems fear can be both a prison and a catalyst.
In this naivete, wondering how one teeters proper between boldness and cautiousness.
You could say a misstep in logic means evicting your body.
Or does it? to assert otherwise, to wrangle in the current logic structures...

Reminded of "Light on the Path" by Mabel Collins:

"To be able to stand is to have confidence"; and to have confidence means that the disciple is sure of himself, that he has surrendered his emotions, his very self, even his humanity; that he is incapable of fear and unconscious of pain; that his whole consciousness is centered in the divine life, which is expressed symbolically by the term "the Masters"; that he has neither eyes, nor ears, nor speech, nor power, save in and for the divine ray on which his highest sense has touched. Then is he fearless, free from suffering, free from anxiety or dismay; his soul stands without shrinking or desire of postponement, in the full blaze of the divine light which penetrates through and through his being. Then he has come into his inheritance and can claim his kinship with the teachers of men; he is upright, he has raised his head, he breathes the same air that they do.

[link to pomf2.lain.la (secure)] to those curious.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83032977

Fear disguises itself as perspective, so I suppose so. In that way, it's neither negative nor positive but more of a system of logic itself (Chaos/Order, with each 'fearing' the other because each should not see itself as the other in order to seem to be separate, and therefore seem to exist.)

Hi :)

This can be done in a variety of ways. It is important to consider, however, that the experience would be what is most relevant.

Forget about what you've been exposed to with science fiction, though, unless it makes sense in the logical narrative of the story from the character's perspective.

Make up your own logical narrative. Plan it out, if you'd like. How do you get from point A to B in a way that makes sense to your experience? Better yet, produce something new (a new 'stepping stone') to bring the experience closer, sooner.

It probably doesn't mean that you'll be able to wake up with knowledge of Spanish in your current experience, but it might mean that you meet a Spanish girl and you learn far more rapidly than you would have otherwise.

There is nothing to stop you from building a reality whereby 'instant knowing' or something like that is possible, however.

How do you do it? You just make it up.

The easiest way? Write a story about it and listen to the characters, who will point the way. Then, become the story.

Also, refer to the last part of this thread:
Thread: Notes from an "alternate universe": The Revelation of the Real World (Page 23)

Hope it's enough to get you started with production :)
 Quoting: The Builder


Thank you for imparting the confidence. Reread your Genius excerpt and will begin a narrative.

Have you written us in this story, this story of a thread? :)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83032977

All of my threads from an essential part of my narrative. Like in building a house, some parts are discarded, some are used as platforms to build other things, some are for the interior while some are for the exterior, and some are used to have a better view of something else.

If anything, the confidence shared reading these things is greatly appreciated.

It is your perspective that determines what makes sense, not any outside authority such as 'God', the laws of physics, or the universe or whatever.

 Quoting: The Builder


"The real masters are the intellects who suggest in a suggestible way that which you cannot resist."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83032977

My pleasure, as all ways :)
video 6: <<Beyond the Red Pill: Top 10 Black Pills About America>> [link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 82577448
United States
07/18/2022 05:09 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Notes from an "alternate universe": The Revelation of the Real World
Think of it this way... if your subconscious self was sending you a message, so to speak, that you think says "turn right" it actually says "turn left".

There are times we forget this (such as now) and times we remember it. When we forget, the world turns to the opposite of what is was before.
 Quoting: The Builder


This is a fascinating thread of logic.
So perspectives are programmed so extensively that fear is both the door and the prison.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83032977

Imagine that you are Absolute and you have no way to perceive of anything, including yourself.

You then decide to forget about parts of yourself so that there seems to be other things with which to compare against. The more comparisons you can make the more real things seem.

You sacrifice your Absoluteness for reality, however. You don't really care because existence feels pretty awesome.

In order to (seem to) exist, however, you need to distract yourself with something.

The first thing you find is fear. You're afraid of existence being 'taken away' if you figure out the reality, so you build all kinds of systems to distract you from it. The more engaging the system the better you can solidify your existence.

We are not in a prison, however. We build this because it is what we require for our existence. The question is simply, "How much ______ do I need to feel like I exist?"

What is a prison that we build for ourselves and we can leave at any moment?

If you can feel 'I exist' with 1 grain of sugar, metaphorically-speaking, then congratulations! But if you find yourself needing more and more grains in order to get that feeling, then you've stepped into an escalating Chaos loop.

Recently saw a ghost upon waking.
It was floating, a tint of blue, back turned.
Absurd amount of detail.

Suffice to say the fear-factor of sleeping & dark rooms has been amped up.

What are some materials to better remember this strange paradox? ...And break past it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83032977

May I ask, why would you want to break past it?

Ironic to ask, as it seems the common thread here is that the perspective alone determines how!

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83032977

Yes. Just keep in mind that what you want is irrelevant. It's all about the systems you build to make it happen.

Surely there practical uses of fear...
Beyond perspectives exploring the feeling, as you've detailed here:

From my observations about humanity, most of what we want is to feel the want rather than to actually 'have' it. There could be more value in the wanting than pursuing the want, like a journey being sometimes more valuable than its destination.

 Quoting: The Builder


It seems fear can be both a prison and a catalyst.
In this naivete, wondering how one teeters proper between boldness and cautiousness.
You could say a misstep in logic means evicting your body.
Or does it? to assert otherwise, to wrangle in the current logic structures...

Reminded of "Light on the Path" by Mabel Collins:

"To be able to stand is to have confidence"; and to have confidence means that the disciple is sure of himself, that he has surrendered his emotions, his very self, even his humanity; that he is incapable of fear and unconscious of pain; that his whole consciousness is centered in the divine life, which is expressed symbolically by the term "the Masters"; that he has neither eyes, nor ears, nor speech, nor power, save in and for the divine ray on which his highest sense has touched. Then is he fearless, free from suffering, free from anxiety or dismay; his soul stands without shrinking or desire of postponement, in the full blaze of the divine light which penetrates through and through his being. Then he has come into his inheritance and can claim his kinship with the teachers of men; he is upright, he has raised his head, he breathes the same air that they do.

[link to pomf2.lain.la (secure)] to those curious.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83032977

Fear disguises itself as perspective, so I suppose so. In that way, it's neither negative nor positive but more of a system of logic itself (Chaos/Order, with each 'fearing' the other because each should not see itself as the other in order to seem to be separate, and therefore seem to exist.)

Hi :)

This can be done in a variety of ways. It is important to consider, however, that the experience would be what is most relevant.

Forget about what you've been exposed to with science fiction, though, unless it makes sense in the logical narrative of the story from the character's perspective.

Make up your own logical narrative. Plan it out, if you'd like. How do you get from point A to B in a way that makes sense to your experience? Better yet, produce something new (a new 'stepping stone') to bring the experience closer, sooner.

It probably doesn't mean that you'll be able to wake up with knowledge of Spanish in your current experience, but it might mean that you meet a Spanish girl and you learn far more rapidly than you would have otherwise.

There is nothing to stop you from building a reality whereby 'instant knowing' or something like that is possible, however.

How do you do it? You just make it up.

The easiest way? Write a story about it and listen to the characters, who will point the way. Then, become the story.

Also, refer to the last part of this thread:
Thread: Notes from an "alternate universe": The Revelation of the Real World (Page 23)

Hope it's enough to get you started with production :)
 Quoting: The Builder


Thank you for imparting the confidence. Reread your Genius excerpt and will begin a narrative.

Have you written us in this story, this story of a thread? :)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83032977

All of my threads from an essential part of my narrative. Like in building a house, some parts are discarded, some are used as platforms to build other things, some are for the interior while some are for the exterior, and some are used to have a better view of something else.

If anything, the confidence shared reading these things is greatly appreciated.

It is your perspective that determines what makes sense, not any outside authority such as 'God', the laws of physics, or the universe or whatever.

 Quoting: The Builder


"The real masters are the intellects who suggest in a suggestible way that which you cannot resist."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83032977

My pleasure, as all ways :)
 Quoting: The Builder


I think we're in a prison as of late because the great reset and the vaccines scenario. Yeah theres no way we are not in a prison.Unless you give me a logical argument ill listen.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 83032977
United States
07/18/2022 07:40 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Notes from an "alternate universe": The Revelation of the Real World
May I ask, why would you want to break past it?
 Quoting: The Builder


With the knowledge of what you explained about fear, breaking past it isn't the objective then. Tired of being a coward, though.
Breaking past "fear" in my previous conception was to introduce a new framework, a new mind, a new mode.

What was written is fueled by an urge to click "next".
You could say it's a part of the narrative in construction right now. Or this narrative has been in construction for awhile, unconsciously.
So the narrative goes: after operating at lower capacity for so long, now one "unlocks" the mind.
Parallel thinking, multitasking, instant recall, full access to the horsepower we have hidden. Telepathy even!
That sounds like a lot of fun and also terrifying.

It's all about the systems you build to make it happen.
 Quoting: The Builder


This adds some clarity.

So the systems put in place justify the current experience.
If the systems you build don't make sense, then you won't get what you want.

The main justification to know English, for example, is that one has lived for a long period of time in an English speaking country.
It would be strange not to know English.

So this "unlocking the mind" is a narrative to explore - as a best attempt - of "making up" how to learn Spanish without sinking that much time into it.

Not just Spanish, but other languages as well.
Other worlds, knowledge.

Do you ever find your narratives take a long time to build up and complete?
The Builder  (OP)

User ID: 83867080
Thailand
07/18/2022 09:11 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Notes from an "alternate universe": The Revelation of the Real World
I think we're in a prison as of late because the great reset and the vaccines scenario.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82577448

You could say that you were born into a world that had all ready been 'great-resetted' a little over 120 years ago, perhaps born in a medical cooperative that loves giving people, from the time they enter this world, even more harmful drugs as part of a multi-year schedule.

The Cult wants you to think about a 'great reset' and more recent drugs being harmful. They are the ones reporting on it, in their mainstream and alternative media. They create problems simply by having their media focus on them, and the public eats it up because it makes them feel like they exist, unfortunately. (There is a variety of more productive ways, of course.)

Much of it is agitation propaganda, one of their favourite ways of breaking down the human spirit. Pretty much every 'alternative' news source is run by active members of the Cult, each doing their job of spreading fear to propagate Chaos and keep the whole operation going.

They bombard populations with their filth because it means their survival. If people didn't pay attention to their productions, they wouldn't be able to do what they do.

The only difference between what they are doing now and what they were doing 10, 20, 50, 100 years ago is that more people are paying attention in real-time, via the tools they have convinced people they needed. Without our attention, they cease to exist.

Nearly all of this is by consent, however, because the Cult is mostly made up of passive members who voluntarily choose to support it via their attention and use of its tools. This is the human population.

The 'great reset', etc., etc., would all disappear tomorrow if people didn't use the tools that have made them believe such a thing was happening. If they stopped using their televisions, handheld phones, and the internet, it would be gone in less than a week.

But this is the last thing people would want to do. Why? Because they believe that they need what the Cult provides. (A sense of existence and meaning in their lives, no matter how harmful.)

What is a 'prison' that we choose to walk into and can leave at any time? Which brings us to...

eah theres no way we are not in a prison.Unless you give me a logical argument ill listen.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82577448

Which parts of this prison are outside of your perspective?
video 6: <<Beyond the Red Pill: Top 10 Black Pills About America>> [link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
The Builder  (OP)

User ID: 83867569
Thailand
07/18/2022 11:37 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Notes from an "alternate universe": The Revelation of the Real World
Doesn't how the ""yes do it" and doing the opposite" thing relate to fear relative to what the "voice" is talking about?
 Quoting: Sabai_Adonais

It's more like getting a sense for what you have all ready done metaphysically and thinking that it's intuition about what you should do physically. By following what you sense you are doing it again, in a way. (This 'too much' of something works against equilibrium and often lacks benefit, or may even have an adverse effect. Why do the same thing twice?)

There are different kinds of senses, though, and it may be difficult for people to tell the difference (just as it may be difficult to tell the difference between types of dreams). Without being able to distinguish between the types of senses (or, 'intuition') I don't want to just say 'do the opposite of what your intuition tells you', but it is also a way to learn how to distinguish it, if that's what you'd like.

And, yes, to get over our inherent fear of not existing. And, moreso, to get over the addiction to Chaos that we want to fill the supposed void.

The fear of not existing shatters our Self into endless pieces so that we can busy ourselves relating them together in order to feel like we exist. Just as we intend.

What "fear" are we talking about? There's the fear that prevents one from doing what's "right" or "good for them," but there's also the fear engendered by being approached by an axe murderer. I'd assume the discussion is more around the former
 Quoting: Sabai_Adonais

It's the same fear of not existing. When one follows laws, for example, one rejects the consequences of not doing so (be it punishment or its eventual result). These consequences are made up, of course, yet part of the system that build at each moment to keep ourselves busy.

The same fear of not existing may be had if one is 'approached by an axe..', but it would then be more immediate and obvious. It would also be something one makes up and is entirely within their control. Thus, it would be something that helps one feel like one exists.

Some people fulfil this need by having all manner of things happen to them, from being kissed to ingesting drugs to writing a book to the most heinous acts that you could imagine. All with the same purpose.

Which they choose is irrelevant. Some people like apples, some like oranges.

"Fear" is what we make up to give us a sense of existence.

“All of man’s problems stem from his inability to sit alone in a room for any length of time.” – Blaise Pascal

This is not much different than a certain infamous group making up stories and forming narratives about how others hate them, which allows members of that group to form an identity around it and solidify the group's existence. If they did not instil fear in themselves and get other aspects of their perspective to think about it, they would not exist as a group.

When one does not fear such things, one need not experience them. They become irrelevant. Other things take their place.

Again, fear isn't negative. It could be argued that it is more positive, yet it is neither. The Cult writes new age books about how "God is love" and all of that in order to hide the reality that "God" is beyond perspective and nothing can be applied to it. "Fear of God" is what produces our existence, and we are 'free' to express that fear in any number of ways.

The alternative? Fear of man, which is where the Cult comes in. To reject your perspective as your own and consider it something outside of it, all the while adopting their system of fear and thinking it is the way things should be.

What if you have more than one "voice," and each happens to "advise" you in opposing ways? Angel and devil on the shoulders, so to speak. Both are very logical to themselves. But each are conditioned, the angel and the devil would be representations of one's judgements of "good" and "bad," but those are determined in the average individual by what (the cult)ure tells them is so. This leads to doing "good" things and avoiding "bad" things for the wrong reasons, reasons which are ultimately "harmful" to the Self (promote forgetfulness). The angel and the devil are also primarily logics of the "conscious" Self and aren't necessarily indicators of "messages from," so to speak, the "subconscious." So the question becomes "how to hear the 'metaphysical' voice beyond the angel and the devil?" Which is a rough question because it could be argued that the angel and the devil are "subconscious" voices, as the "programming" of (the cult)ure becomes automatic in response and not everyone recognizes that
 Quoting: Sabai_Adonais

You needn't listen to either. It would make more sense to do what is useful in the context of your complete physical experience rather than considering your metaphysical experience.

However, you're not 'supposed' to do good things any more than bad. They're perspectives which have no truth to them. You're not even 'supposed' to realise that you are the author of reality. (Besides, most people wouldn't be able to handle that because their existence depends on them not knowing or understanding it. Many would go insane realising that the utmost evil they could imagine is their own production.)

Rather than listening to your metaphysical voice, it would make more sense to listen to your physical one. Namely, your body. This is what all early 'religious' texts were about (the workings of the mind and body in relation to the reality we produce).

"What is the best way to experience this physicality I have created for myself, in the longest time possible?"

Any metaphysical message is simply a translation of the physical. (They are the same thing, but we'll discuss that later.)

Any metaphysical thing is a re-interpretation of the physical, with just as much validity (as even the metaphysical is an interpretation itself).

The easiest realm to experience is the physical one. That is what the metaphysical world points to. Physicality is the spiritual world that our ancestors knew, but the Cult has done a wonderful job of distracting us with other things.

The physical mind is the gateway, all ways available. Remember this.
video 6: <<Beyond the Red Pill: Top 10 Black Pills About America>> [link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
The Builder  (OP)

User ID: 83867569
Thailand
07/18/2022 11:40 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Notes from an "alternate universe": The Revelation of the Real World
Hello.

Say, for example, there was a task to speak and comprehend Spanish fluently.
The current perspective only understands English.

What relationships need to come into view to "skip" the learning and instead know Spanish?

Current methodology for most perspectives wanting a new language would be building relationships with "flash cards" or have an "immersion approach".
Yet both of these relationships are perceived as learning and take ample "linear time".

What relationships could be built to know Spanish once more, instead of "learning" it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83032977

Hi :)

This can be done in a variety of ways. It is important to consider, however, that the experience would be what is most relevant.

Forget about what you've been exposed to with science fiction, though, unless it makes sense in the logical narrative of the story from the character's perspective.

Make up your own logical narrative. Plan it out, if you'd like. How do you get from point A to B in a way that makes sense to your experience? Better yet, produce something new (a new 'stepping stone') to bring the experience closer, sooner.

It probably doesn't mean that you'll be able to wake up with knowledge of Spanish in your current experience, but it might mean that you meet a Spanish girl and you learn far more rapidly than you would have otherwise.

There is nothing to stop you from building a reality whereby 'instant knowing' or something like that is possible, however.

How do you do it? You just make it up.

The easiest way? Write a story about it and listen to the characters, who will point the way. Then, become the story.

Also, refer to the last part of this thread:
Thread: Notes from an "alternate universe": The Revelation of the Real World (Page 23)

Hope it's enough to get you started with production :)
 Quoting: The Builder


What I don't understand about this approach, the making your own logical steps and writing a story approach, is that that's the "conscious" Self using it's logic which isn't what is necessarily logical to the "subconscious" Self so wouldn't necessarily "get you where you want to go," or not in any efficient or timely manner. Idk
 Quoting: Sabai_Adonais

There is no need to consider the logic of the metaphysical self.

It's 'translated' automatically. When we try to sense metaphysical logic (such as intuition) then we are more likely to mis-step, without an understanding of its inverse nature of the manner in which it works.

Remember, the physical world is an aspect of the metaphysical one. (That is to say, the physical world is entirely metaphysical.)
video 6: <<Beyond the Red Pill: Top 10 Black Pills About America>> [link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
The Builder  (OP)

User ID: 83867569
Thailand
07/18/2022 11:41 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Notes from an "alternate universe": The Revelation of the Real World
What's with the cult's obsession with the 80's in contemporary media
 Quoting: Sabai_Adonais

Could you provide your best example of this?
video 6: <<Beyond the Red Pill: Top 10 Black Pills About America>> [link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
The Builder  (OP)

User ID: 83867569
Thailand
07/18/2022 11:43 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Notes from an "alternate universe": The Revelation of the Real World
Is this basically a what is good is evil and what is evil is good now thread?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79458414

I suppose you could say we make it so.

In the modern world, 'evil' is presented as good, and 'good' is presented as evil.

More popcorn is needed.
video 6: <<Beyond the Red Pill: Top 10 Black Pills About America>> [link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
The Builder  (OP)

User ID: 83867569
Thailand
07/18/2022 11:45 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Notes from an "alternate universe": The Revelation of the Real World

What would you say if we built a genius to accomplish the goal of physical gold oz to equal $20,000? Fed coin / ruble coin.

Most of the gold paper all ready in storage. True.

Gold-backed CBDC would decouple the paper gold physical market?
 Quoting: SpawnX

Sounds good. You start :)
 Quoting: The Builder


How's your genius 'thing' interacting?

Mine detached barely hanging in.

What happens next.
 Quoting: SpawnX

That's not how I build reality, but I wanted you to start because it seemed like something that you wanted to experience.

If you could, please provide the answer to two questions:

1) Can you say, in 3 words, what you'd like to experience with it?

2) What would be its benefit?
video 6: <<Beyond the Red Pill: Top 10 Black Pills About America>> [link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
The Builder  (OP)

User ID: 83867569
Thailand
07/18/2022 11:56 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Notes from an "alternate universe": The Revelation of the Real World
There are three issues with physical gold.

1) It is not rare. There is far more physical gold than is publicly believed (all ready in storage, not in newly-found mines).

 Quoting: The Builder


It's not rare in storage, but rare outside of storage? Any GPS coordinates where I can scoop gold out in nature?


The big cabal boys have it in storage. Increasing the price of gold, a win-win?

Increasing price of gold take their away their ability to create money out of nothing? Probably not. Control the gold in storage, and keep it relatively cheap (production cost). And continue to goal of cashless programmable central bank digital currency.


Paper scheme collapses, spoofing continues for how long? If spoofing gets destroyed how much oz can I trade for cult dollars.
 Quoting: SpawnX

Alchemy is an old process by which things can be reformed over time.

Cement can be transformed into stone using a certain process, for example. A great many 'stone' structures were made this way. (There's an amusing photo of Obama standing in front of Stonehenge showing it's cement structure and rebar. This is not an ancient construction, however, but a recent one.)

Most of the 'gold' in the world is made with a simple alchemical process that was forgotten over the past few hundred years. It isn't rare because there was so much of it produced, mainly in Japan and other parts of Asia.

In storage there are hundreds of trillions of dollars worth of gold, I would assume. Possibly more. (I am familiar with someone who has several trillion dollars worth in storage and nobody really cares about it. It's like water, so I would think that others in 'higher' stations possess much more.)

Pretty much everything that we are told is rare, is not. Gold, diamonds, oil, etc. By controlling the perceived supply, it becomes more of a political tool. The same is being done with water and food, however. There might come a time when we think clean water is just as rare, if we're not careful.

There will be no 'collapse'. The only collapse that matters to them is the spirit. After which time people can be artificially governed through fear.
video 6: <<Beyond the Red Pill: Top 10 Black Pills About America>> [link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
SpawnX

User ID: 82736536
United States
07/19/2022 01:21 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Notes from an "alternate universe": The Revelation of the Real World

...

Sounds good. You start :)
 Quoting: The Builder


How's your genius 'thing' interacting?

Mine detached barely hanging in.

What happens next.
 Quoting: SpawnX

That's not how I build reality, but I wanted you to start because it seemed like something that you wanted to experience.

If you could, please provide the answer to two questions:

1) Can you say, in 3 words, what you'd like to experience with it?

2) What would be its benefit?
 Quoting: SpawnX


My house deed.

Building anew reality.
SpawnX

User ID: 82736536
United States
07/19/2022 01:22 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Notes from an "alternate universe": The Revelation of the Real World
There are three issues with physical gold.

1) It is not rare. There is far more physical gold than is publicly believed (all ready in storage, not in newly-found mines).

 Quoting: The Builder


It's not rare in storage, but rare outside of storage? Any GPS coordinates where I can scoop gold out in nature?


The big cabal boys have it in storage. Increasing the price of gold, a win-win?

Increasing price of gold take their away their ability to create money out of nothing? Probably not. Control the gold in storage, and keep it relatively cheap (production cost). And continue to goal of cashless programmable central bank digital currency.


Paper scheme collapses, spoofing continues for how long? If spoofing gets destroyed how much oz can I trade for cult dollars.
 Quoting: SpawnX

Alchemy is an old process by which things can be reformed over time.

Cement can be transformed into stone using a certain process, for example. A great many 'stone' structures were made this way. (There's an amusing photo of Obama standing in front of Stonehenge showing it's cement structure and rebar. This is not an ancient construction, however, but a recent one.)

Most of the 'gold' in the world is made with a simple alchemical process that was forgotten over the past few hundred years. It isn't rare because there was so much of it produced, mainly in Japan and other parts of Asia.

In storage there are hundreds of trillions of dollars worth of gold, I would assume. Possibly more. (I am familiar with someone who has several trillion dollars worth in storage and nobody really cares about it. It's like water, so I would think that others in 'higher' stations possess much more.)

Pretty much everything that we are told is rare, is not. Gold, diamonds, oil, etc. By controlling the perceived supply, it becomes more of a political tool. The same is being done with water and food, however. There might come a time when we think clean water is just as rare, if we're not careful.

There will be no 'collapse'. The only collapse that matters to them is the spirit. After which time people can be artificially governed through fear.
 Quoting: The Builder


Not bad. Hold or sell?
Sabai_Adonais

User ID: 80635221
United States
07/19/2022 02:55 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Notes from an "alternate universe": The Revelation of the Real World
Some experiences have more value than others, as some experiences make one feel more like one exists than others.

We participate in the particular cults that we do because of the value that they have for us. We might focus on 'our' sports team rather than doing something more productive, for example. For some, it's a certain kind of music.

I'm not sure where 'appreciating difference' ranks in comparison to all of the cults and systems out there that do this job.
 Quoting: The Builder


I suppose, when thinking about the "glitch in the matrix" stories I've read, where people happen to appreciate the difference more than they're used to, they tend to freak out a bit. Questioning reality,, existential crises, etc. I guess "appreciating the difference" is closer to feeling like one doesn't exist.


There's a difference between 'experiencing reality because of difference' and 'appreciating the difference' :)

The former is where most of the value is, while the latter goes mostly unnoticed.
 Quoting: The Builder


But "appreciating the difference" is still useful to some ends, like with my "time travel" thing, but maybe now I'm talking about something other than appreciating the difference metaphysically. Like, when the Genius is used, you're appreciating the difference physically between the perspective where it "starts" and where it "ends." A master pianist can appreciate appreciate difference between where she is now and where she started (her clunking along on the keys being the model of the perspective she'd eventually perceive: being a master). Idk.

'Free will' exists, but not in the way we would usually think about it.

We are free to choose what we 'want'. More than a choice, however, you are producing it.

One is free to choose from among perspectives that all-ready exist because they do not exist any more than perspectives that aren't there. One produces as one goes along, from scratch.

We make a choice that is not a choice by building its reality :)
 Quoting: The Builder


I chose a hell of a thing to "want." Building realities makes (some) sense to me in terms of things going conventionally forward in time, like business ventures or practicing skills, and I see how I'd build my new goals from the perspective of "2012," but I cannot wrap my head around something that let's me perceive being "back." Ideally, I'd just go to sleep one of these nights (preferably after I "figure out" neuronics) and wake up the first day of spring break 2012 with all of the memories I had when I went to sleep (linearly-speaking, I know that it's all produced in the present, whatever the present is) but I haven't a clue how to set things up to make that make sense to 'happen.'

When I try to write a story about it, it kind of just happens and idk how

It depends on the system you've set up to realise that.

Do you have a memory of inventing the entire English language just now?
 Quoting: The Builder


I do not, I do have memories of learning it though. Setting up a system to just suddenly know Spanish (or any other language) would be neat. When I first came across Ecsys, I had the idea that it could be used as a sort of internal translator to understand any natural language and be able to respond in kind. Idk about that though
Sabai_Adonais

User ID: 80635221
United States
07/19/2022 03:23 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Notes from an "alternate universe": The Revelation of the Real World
Doesn't how the ""yes do it" and doing the opposite" thing relate to fear relative to what the "voice" is talking about?
 Quoting: Sabai_Adonais

It's more like getting a sense for what you have all ready done metaphysically and thinking that it's intuition about what you should do physically. By following what you sense you are doing it again, in a way. (This 'too much' of something works against equilibrium and often lacks benefit, or may even have an adverse effect. Why do the same thing twice?)
 Quoting: The Builder


Oh, this is confusing. I guess, when I think about times things have gone well it's usually without listening to any of the "voices," the actions are just done. But looking back on series of serendipitous actions, one would call it "intuition" that those actions were taken. But are you talking more about when we're thinking between the options of a certain decision, and we have a "feeling" about which option to go with? That seems to work out for people, too, though, sometimes.

Oh, I am confused.

There are different kinds of senses, though, and it may be difficult for people to tell the difference (just as it may be difficult to tell the difference between types of dreams). Without being able to distinguish between the types of senses (or, 'intuition') I don't want to just say 'do the opposite of what your intuition tells you', but it is also a way to learn how to distinguish it, if that's what you'd like.
 Quoting: The Builder


I've maybe sort of been doing this on a baby scale. If I need something and there are options to choose from to go to to get that thing (like, say, grocery stores) I haven't been going to the first place I think of. Is that similar?

And, yes, to get over our inherent fear of not existing. And, moreso, to get over the addiction to Chaos that we want to fill the supposed void.

The fear of not existing shatters our Self into endless pieces so that we can busy ourselves relating them together in order to feel like we exist. Just as we intend.
 Quoting: The Builder


This is so odd to me, because on my "conscious" level there have been many times that I've wished badly to not exist. Seems odd to think that that's the exact opposite of the "reality."


It's the same fear of not existing. When one follows laws, for example, one rejects the consequences of not doing so (be it punishment or its eventual result). These consequences are made up, of course, yet part of the system that build at each moment to keep ourselves busy.

The same fear of not existing may be had if one is 'approached by an axe..', but it would then be more immediate and obvious. It would also be something one makes up and is entirely within their control. Thus, it would be something that helps one feel like one exists.

Some people fulfil this need by having all manner of things happen to them, from being kissed to ingesting drugs to writing a book to the most heinous acts that you could imagine. All with the same purpose.

Which they choose is irrelevant. Some people like apples, some like oranges.

"Fear" is what we make up to give us a sense of existence.

“All of man’s problems stem from his inability to sit alone in a room for any length of time.” – Blaise Pascal

This is not much different than a certain infamous group making up stories and forming narratives about how others hate them, which allows members of that group to form an identity around it and solidify the group's existence. If they did not instil fear in themselves and get other aspects of their perspective to think about it, they would not exist as a group.

When one does not fear such things, one need not experience them. They become irrelevant. Other things take their place.

Again, fear isn't negative. It could be argued that it is more positive, yet it is neither. The Cult writes new age books about how "God is love" and all of that in order to hide the reality that "God" is beyond perspective and nothing can be applied to it. "Fear of God" is what produces our existence, and we are 'free' to express that fear in any number of ways.

The alternative? Fear of man, which is where the Cult comes in. To reject your perspective as your own and consider it something outside of it, all the while adopting their system of fear and thinking it is the way things should be.
 Quoting: The Builder


Is that the only alternative? I'd like to just fear not existing, seems options are more open that way than when the fear is represented as fear of God or man.

I think some of my difficulty in my endeavor to "go back" is that I'm afraid I won't be able to. I'm afraid that I'm "stuck" in time. Similarly, I fear that I'm too insignificant to change anything, and I fear that I don't "deserve" to ""experience what I want."" These fears seem so much harder to 'get over' than fears of physical pain or injury by others. The lattermost fear is also super frustrating bc on principle I don't think anyone "deserves" anything, "deserving" is irrelevant. And yet! So annoying.

Would it help if I adopted fears that "Sabai in 2012 with 2022's memories" likely has? Like, the fear of spring break ending and having to go back to school, for example


You needn't listen to either. It would make more sense to do what is useful in the context of your complete physical experience rather than considering your metaphysical experience.

However, you're not 'supposed' to do good things any more than bad. They're perspectives which have no truth to them. You're not even 'supposed' to realise that you are the author of reality. (Besides, most people wouldn't be able to handle that because their existence depends on them not knowing or understanding it. Many would go insane realising that the utmost evil they could imagine is their own production.)

Rather than listening to your metaphysical voice, it would make more sense to listen to your physical one. Namely, your body. This is what all early 'religious' texts were about (the workings of the mind and body in relation to the reality we produce).

"What is the best way to experience this physicality I have created for myself, in the longest time possible?"

Any metaphysical message is simply a translation of the physical. (They are the same thing, but we'll discuss that later.)

Any metaphysical thing is a re-interpretation of the physical, with just as much validity (as even the metaphysical is an interpretation itself).

The easiest realm to experience is the physical one. That is what the metaphysical world points to. Physicality is the spiritual world that our ancestors knew, but the Cult has done a wonderful job of distracting us with other things.

The physical mind is the gateway, all ways available. Remember this.
 Quoting: The Builder


Talk of the body brings to a mind a question I keep forgetting about, but why shouldn't we eat animals' skin? Like I get that it's bc the skin is the "genius" but what's the actual effect on my body/experience if I eat animals' skin? And does chicken and fish skin count? I don't see why they wouldn't, just clarifying

My body continues to send me messages that something's not right or is imbalanced (continued episodes of shortness of breath, excessive tiredness, etc.), but I'm working to try and understand what it's saying

Last Edited by Sabai_ on 07/19/2022 03:41 AM
Sabai_Adonais

User ID: 80635221
United States
07/19/2022 03:39 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Notes from an "alternate universe": The Revelation of the Real World
What's with the cult's obsession with the 80's in contemporary media
 Quoting: Sabai_Adonais

Could you provide your best example of this?
 Quoting: The Builder


Part of it may just be cycles, for instance in fashion. Mullets, perms, scrunchies, a certain set of clothing styles, all things ascribed to the 80's.

But in media, there's just a plethora of modern shows and movies that take place in the 80's, and I find that odd. Recently there's Stranger things, which follows a child in the 80's who has superpowers due to government experiments that recall "MKUltra" in "real life" (what was the real deal with MKUltra, by the by?). Interestingly, maybe, the most recent season culminated in two worlds being merged and that is decidedly a Very Bad Thing in the show.

When I asked the question, it was due to a movie released in the last couple months called "The Black Phone," which is a horror movie that takes place in the 80's. The source material was published in 2007 but takes place in 1945. Which brings me to the similar topic of the cult's obsession with the 40's.

THAT I understand, the cult's depiction of WWII is integral to the current deception, so it makes sense that every modern war movie seems to be a retelling of (the cult's version of) WWII, and there's still so much content about n*zis. The recent show The Boys is explicitly about n*ziism and how it's expressed and used in modern America (its also, interestingly, has a "superheroes are bad" message)

But why the 80's??
Sabai_Adonais

User ID: 80635221
United States
07/19/2022 03:49 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Notes from an "alternate universe": The Revelation of the Real World
Is this basically a what is good is evil and what is evil is good now thread?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79458414

I suppose you could say we make it so.

In the modern world, 'evil' is presented as good, and 'good' is presented as evil.

More popcorn is needed.
 Quoting: The Builder


Things like murder, rape, and p*dophila are typically considered evil in the modern world, are they not?

That's more just a devil's advocate question, I personally think that morality in terms of good and evil is dogmatic and unhelpful, even irrelevant. From my perspective, "good" is what is more rational and "bad" is what is more irrational. Things like murder, rape, and p*dophila are deeply irrational, so in that respect they're "bad"

What is the "good presented as evil" you speak of, though?
The Builder  (OP)

User ID: 83868329
Thailand
07/19/2022 05:46 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Notes from an "alternate universe": The Revelation of the Real World
May I ask, why would you want to break past it?
 Quoting: The Builder


With the knowledge of what you explained about fear, breaking past it isn't the objective then. Tired of being a coward, though.
Breaking past "fear" in my previous conception was to introduce a new framework, a new mind, a new mode.

What was written is fueled by an urge to click "next".
You could say it's a part of the narrative in construction right now. Or this narrative has been in construction for awhile, unconsciously.
So the narrative goes: after operating at lower capacity for so long, now one "unlocks" the mind.
Parallel thinking, multitasking, instant recall, full access to the horsepower we have hidden. Telepathy even!
That sounds like a lot of fun and also terrifying.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83032977

If you could easily do those things you would probably want to make it so that you don't think you can do those things that much.

Perhaps that is where we find ourselves :)

We can all ready think in a parallel fashion, right now. We can multi-task, recall instantly, and have full access to our capacity, including telepathy with others and one's environment. (For example, if we had no telepathy, we'd have no perception.) We do so much more than this, but we don't give it a moment's thought. Each moment we build everything 'all over again', from scratch.

The value is in forgetting that you do these things, not remembering them or knowing how, as your existence relies on you pretending that you are something other than what you are.

Make a narrative where such things are needed and serve a purpose, not just things that are interesting or cool to have. Give yourself a specific, logical reason for communicating with others telepathically or reading minds, for example, and make your Self happy by adding problems along the way.

Your mind doesn't want your 'conscious' awareness to know that you are communicating telepathically with others right now unless there are problems and dramas associated with it that could allow it to (continue to) feel like you exist.

If you just say to yourself, "I want to communicate telepathically" then it is irrelevant and will be ignored. Develop your own narrative about it. What is the problem that it seeks to solve and how are you going to make it so that it remains unsolved? Who are the characters involved and how does it affect them? How does having such an ability present new problems that need to be solved?

Make it so that your mind wants to experience it because it is something that is likely to make it feel extant.

It's all about the systems you build to make it happen.
 Quoting: The Builder


This adds some clarity.

So the systems put in place justify the current experience.
If the systems you build don't make sense, then you won't get what you want.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83032977

Imagine how your current experience could be 100% logical.

All of the challenges, problems, mistakes, good, bad, and everything in between... 100% logical, moreso than anything else you could experience right now.

Now take out something cherished and replace it with the thing you 'want', as a thought experiment.

Don't take away anything that you think is 'bad' or a problem. (You want there to be problems, because your mind loves these.)

The main justification to know English, for example, is that one has lived for a long period of time in an English speaking country.
It would be strange not to know English.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83032977

Not knowing the local language is a very nice proposition for the mind. It wouldn't be a problem, but a benefit.

Thus, it wouldn't need to manufacture other dramas. It could stick with the drama of not knowing the local language rather than, for example, getting involved in a complicated relationship.

So this "unlocking the mind" is a narrative to explore - as a best attempt - of "making up" how to learn Spanish without sinking that much time into it.

Not just Spanish, but other languages as well.
Other worlds, knowledge.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83032977

Notice something about the example I gave previously? (Meeting a Spanish girl..)

Learning Spanish easily and effortlessly is a side-effect of doing something that makes you feel like you exist.

Don't focus on the thing you want. Make it a 'missing' part of the narrative that your mind fills in automatically.

Do you ever find your narratives take a long time to build up and complete?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83032977

There are two manifestation cycles that I'm aware of:

3 days, and 3 months.

When I step out of my flow, so to speak, I have 3 days to step back in before my perspective makes a kind of shift. It is also the same for sickness.

When I build something, it takes 3 months for it to materialise in the way that I have built it. I usually plan for this and haven't really tried anything shorter-term, as I like to make lots of little modifications and step away from it for a while.

I think these delays have to do with a gradual perspective shift, though I'm not sure how it works.
video 6: <<Beyond the Red Pill: Top 10 Black Pills About America>> [link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 11798990
Ireland
07/19/2022 05:50 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Notes from an "alternate universe": The Revelation of the Real World
The Builder  (OP)

User ID: 83868329
Thailand
07/19/2022 05:50 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Notes from an "alternate universe": The Revelation of the Real World

...


How's your genius 'thing' interacting?

Mine detached barely hanging in.

What happens next.
 Quoting: SpawnX

That's not how I build reality, but I wanted you to start because it seemed like something that you wanted to experience.

If you could, please provide the answer to two questions:

1) Can you say, in 3 words, what you'd like to experience with it?

2) What would be its benefit?
 Quoting: SpawnX


My house deed.

Building anew reality.
 Quoting: The Builder

There is an endless variety of ways for you to experience your house's deed. Why gold, specifically?

Would something else besides gold be more efficient?
video 6: <<Beyond the Red Pill: Top 10 Black Pills About America>> [link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
The Builder  (OP)

User ID: 83868329
Thailand
07/19/2022 05:54 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Notes from an "alternate universe": The Revelation of the Real World
Not bad. Hold or sell?
 Quoting: SpawnX

You do realise that my advice to you would be that which I thought was the preferred experience for your spirit, so to speak, rather than for your finances.

Get rid of your gold and buy a fantom :)
video 6: <<Beyond the Red Pill: Top 10 Black Pills About America>> [link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
The Builder  (OP)

User ID: 83868329
Thailand
07/19/2022 06:00 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Notes from an "alternate universe": The Revelation of the Real World
I suppose, when thinking about the "glitch in the matrix" stories I've read, where people happen to appreciate the difference more than they're used to, they tend to freak out a bit. Questioning reality,, existential crises, etc. I guess "appreciating the difference" is closer to feeling like one doesn't exist.
 Quoting: Sabai_Adonais

Do you mean the ones produced by a certain 'intelligence' concern for the purposes of diminishing one's sense of reality and creating false narratives? Like the dress or the bear storybook?
video 6: <<Beyond the Red Pill: Top 10 Black Pills About America>> [link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
Tuuur
User ID: 45389160
Netherlands
07/19/2022 06:13 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Notes from an "alternate universe": The Revelation of the Real World
Proarp
Påarp
301D

That’s it for now
The Builder  (OP)

User ID: 83868329
Thailand
07/19/2022 06:15 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Notes from an "alternate universe": The Revelation of the Real World
Is this basically a what is good is evil and what is evil is good now thread?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79458414

I suppose you could say we make it so.

In the modern world, 'evil' is presented as good, and 'good' is presented as evil.

More popcorn is needed.
 Quoting: The Builder


Things like murder, rape, and p*dophila are typically considered evil in the modern world, are they not?

That's more just a devil's advocate question, I personally think that morality in terms of good and evil is dogmatic and unhelpful, even irrelevant. From my perspective, "good" is what is more rational and "bad" is what is more irrational. Things like murder, rape, and p*dophila are deeply irrational, so in that respect they're "bad"
 Quoting: Sabai_Adonais

Those are things glorified in media and given lots of attention.

Would it make sense for society to promote what it really considers evil?

The Cult knows exactly what it is doing when it is constantly showing you these things instead of something far more productive. In one hand they are glorifying it and making it special. On the other hand they are providing models of behaviour to an unsuspecting public.

If you had a list of 1000 movies, for example, and took away all of the ones that promote fear, violence, crime, psychoses, 'sexual freedom', unethical behaviour, and communism, you'd be left with about 5.

These things are not considered 'evil'. People want to believe that they think they're evil when they'd rather pay money to see it over something wholesome that promoted the rational values that hold good society together.

What is the "good presented as evil" you speak of, though?
 Quoting: Sabai_Adonais

This month it's the Constitution of the United States of America.

At other times it could be CO2, bacteria, 'viruses', exclusion, discrimination, oxygen and breathing, having conversations and talking, singing, family, questioning self-appointed authorities.. the list goes on.
video 6: <<Beyond the Red Pill: Top 10 Black Pills About America>> [link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
Sabai_Adonais

User ID: 80635221
United States
07/19/2022 09:45 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Notes from an "alternate universe": The Revelation of the Real World
I suppose, when thinking about the "glitch in the matrix" stories I've read, where people happen to appreciate the difference more than they're used to, they tend to freak out a bit. Questioning reality,, existential crises, etc. I guess "appreciating the difference" is closer to feeling like one doesn't exist.
 Quoting: Sabai_Adonais

Do you mean the ones produced by a certain 'intelligence' concern for the purposes of diminishing one's sense of reality and creating false narratives? Like the dress or the bear storybook?
 Quoting: The Builder


No, like the ones posted on reddit by individuals. Small things that they're the only one who notices. Things changing colors for no reason, water appearing where it has no logical reason to, objects disappearing or moving for no reason, seeing doubles of people briefly, remembering an event that never happened according to everyone around them, instances of having should have died but somehow surviving, a local small business having changed names overnight, instances of seeming teleportation, etc.

Things that "happen" to just one person or maybe two people that there's absolutely no evidence for beyond the story. Not that these can't be manufactured, but I've experienced similar things myself. My 3 instances of briefly perceiving "the past" could be included, as could my experience with somehow avoiding a would-be fatal, unavoidable car accident.

People posting about them tend to be freaked out, no matter how harmless the "event" or change was

"The dress" is accepted as a visual illusion and the bear story book is more of a "mandella effect" which I guess could be called 'mass glitches in the matrix' though I'm sure are manufactured. The ones that "affect" more than a few people are suspect
Sabai_Adonais

User ID: 80635221
United States
07/19/2022 09:57 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Notes from an "alternate universe": The Revelation of the Real World
[Snippies]

Would it make sense for society to promote what it really considers evil?

[Snippies]
 Quoting: The Builder


I mean, in a society that is chaotic and irrational and doesn't understand how attention correlates to existence, yes it would.

"The cult" may understand what it's doing, but not everyone's an actor and they justify it by saying 'bringing attention to these things is important so we can stop them.' It's promotion in guise and the initial "bringing attention to" may be facilitated by the cult, but the rest is perpetuated by nonactors. I'm not an "actor," but there was a time when I thought that bringing attention to things was important to stopping them. Seems backwards now. So weird.

This month it's the Constitution of the United States of America.

[Snippies]
 Quoting: The Builder


I mean, I can see how the constitution itself is a-okay, but isn't using it as an authority no bueno?
Sabai_Adonais

User ID: 80635221
United States
07/19/2022 10:29 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Notes from an "alternate universe": The Revelation of the Real World
Make a narrative where such things are needed and serve a purpose, not just things that are interesting or cool to have. Give yourself a specific, logical reason for communicating with others telepathically or reading minds, for example, and make your Self happy by adding problems along the way.
 Quoting: The Builder


Though I've harped on wanting to "time travel," its all ways been for a myriad of reasons, though none until recently have been particularly useful or have posed new problems.

[Snippies]

If you just say to yourself, "I want to communicate telepathically" then it is irrelevant and will be ignored. Develop your own narrative about it. What is the problem that it seeks to solve and how are you going to make it so that it remains unsolved? Who are the characters involved and how does it affect them? How does having such an ability present new problems that need to be solved?

Make it so that your mind wants to experience it because it is something that is likely to make it feel extant.
 Quoting: The Builder


My new narrative involves running a multi-year study starting in 2012, which has sooooo many potential problems, from how to execute such a thing to how to develop the study, to how to collect and organize information. Data collection and analytics seems to be a thing that makes one feel extant. The study itself would be a step towards going to a particular school of self-individualized study which, aha, presents Large and Interesting problems. I can do all the other things I "want" to do on the way.

Also, I intend to keep the fact that I ""time traveled"" a secret, and secrets always create problems

Now take out something cherished and replace it with the thing you 'want', as a thought experiment.
 Quoting: The Builder


Can this be done mentally? I think it's sort of a no-no to actually, physically "take out" a person, and a person is the only thing I can think of that I cherish at the moment


Notice something about the example I gave previously? (Meeting a Spanish girl..)

Learning Spanish easily and effortlessly is a side-effect of doing something that makes you feel like you exist.

Don't focus on the thing you want. Make it a 'missing' part of the narrative that your mind fills in automatically.
 Quoting: The Builder


Doesn't the problem become that once you identify something that would facilitate the initial "want," it becomes the "want"? In anon's case, a Spanish girl. In mine, perhaps, the study (as starting this particular study in 2012 requires "time travel" from 2022). But then, how do you make it so that you meet a Spanish girl?

Sorry if I'm overcomplicating things

[Snippies]
When I step out of my flow, so to speak, I have 3 days to step back in before my perspective makes a kind of shift. It is also the same for sickness.

 Quoting: The Builder


[Emphasis mine]

Sorry, what do you mean by the bolded? That you're sick for 3 days before you feel the symptoms?
SpawnX

User ID: 82736536
United States
07/19/2022 06:29 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Notes from an "alternate universe": The Revelation of the Real World

...

That's not how I build reality, but I wanted you to start because it seemed like something that you wanted to experience.

If you could, please provide the answer to two questions:

1) Can you say, in 3 words, what you'd like to experience with it?

2) What would be its benefit?
 Quoting: SpawnX


My house deed.

Building anew reality.
 Quoting: The Builder

There is an endless variety of ways for you to experience your house's deed. Why gold, specifically?

Would something else besides gold be more efficient?
 Quoting: SpawnX


Gold becoming valued @ $20000 would be super efficient for this goal. Seems the safest and most logical at the moment. As it has most time intrinsic build in my reality.

Builder guy, lets work on anew carnage reality first, then we can work on my spirit. Lets get the deed in my name. Spirit stuff latter. Gold not reaching 20000 is a spirit collapse hehe :')

Not bad. Hold or sell?
 Quoting: SpawnX

You do realise that my advice to you would be that which I thought was the preferred experience for your spirit, so to speak, rather than for your finances.

Get rid of your gold and buy a fantom :)
 Quoting: The Builder


Hmmm Rolls Royce phantom? I aint no Chaol Jr.


For first time I find myself contemplating a shattering reality. Gold key not opening the door as I expected. Must I invert to the shattering reality.

Gold is more rare than digital dollars. Gold is less rare than physical dollars. Higher stations with boat loads of gold would be ever so inclined to burn paper gold? Mafia boss fights.





GLP