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Notes from an "alternate universe": The Revelation of the Real World

 
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What would you say if we built a genius to accomplish the goal of physical gold oz to equal $20,000? Fed coin / ruble coin.

Most of the gold paper all ready in storage. True.

Gold-backed CBDC would decouple the paper gold physical market?
 Quoting: SpawnX

Sounds good. You start :)
 Quoting: The Builder


Now when I interact with my symbol. I will get the idea of inversion, focus on the loser side, loss. The fear side. To which will allow me to see the totality of oneself. I lived so much in the winner mindset with the 24k prediction (and nothing). But it's time to start panicking catch up to the inversion so one is closer to being able to choose the most relevant interpretation.
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Yes, something like that. And the new color would be new, yet would have been there all along. (The relationships would have all ways been there, but just not perceived.)

The value is not in seeing the difference between experiences. The value is the experiences themselves, regardless of what is understood. The difference between experiences is meaningless, more or less. The purpose is simply 'to be', or at least seem to be. How it is done is irrelevant.
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But we can't really ""have"" experience without difference . Like, when we're perceiving a "thing," we're really perceiving the relationships behind it, but isn't that sort of like the "difference" between two (or more) so-called "absolutes" (which ofc don't "exist" as they're beyond perception but English remains limited).
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You would still be perceiving differences, of course, and having experiences from those relationships.

You may be implying that no experience would be had because you would not see the new color as a new color.

(But there are still other colors, of course.)
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No, of course the experience is still present, but the "conscious" experience -- which is the only experience we really "have," no matter how aware of something you are you can only be aware of what you're aware of (English limited once again, as ofc you can't be totally aware of what you're aware of.) -- is of a different flavor when the difference is appreciated. And that's in being aware of the decision to perceive change.
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Would you say that your 'subconscious' self would want you to appreciate this, or be aware of the decision?

"Magenta" didn't exist before just now. I just made it up. It seems as though it's always existed, and I can have many experiences surrounding perceiving the color magenta and the ideas associated with it without being aware of just how I "made it come in to existence," but the perception of "making something come into existence" is an other flavor of perception unto itself. And I think that there is also value in that experience, as there must be because it is an experience.
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You also make up everything else that you are experiencing, just now. You aren't aware of 'decisions', nor do you need to be. (More accurately than a 'deicion', you experience that which is most relative.)

Sure, but now with you having said that, I can "access" those perspectives and see how only one part is different, or how it can be seen as 500 different things. In difference, there is "learning"
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Learning only has value to physically-oriented awareness that experiences times and spaces more disparately.

"Learning" is irrelevant to the Self. The Self does not learn anything. It is only when one forgets the Self that something can appear to be learned.

The Self doesn't care about growing or learning as we think of it. That's only important for our (very) limited view of reality.

It can be argued that ignorance and not-learning are just as valuable, as that is the only way the Self is unfolded in order to have a sense of reality. In order to perceive details, we need to forget about the Self.

You asked, before, how we "learn," and from where I'm standing now that seems to be through difference. Epistemology is an annoying subject to try and discuss, though, with English's ever-more obvious limitations.

Interestingly, I think this may be part of the "problem" I have with neuronics. I assume it's somewhat different in application to alphabetical language, but I can't yet appreciate what the difference actually is so can't apply it against the "known" of alphabetical language. Interesting to think about
 Quoting: Sabai_Adonais

Think of it more like a map in your brain, with sets being the landscape you place upon it that can help you formulate your experience.

A handicapped form of this would be something like English.
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The landscape, though, comes through syntax. This is the case even with handicapped versions such as English; two people can both be using English, but depending on how they structure English in their minds, they will have vastly different internal and external experiences.

Just one example of a more complex set would be helpful. Not to copy, to learn from. Though I guess maybe the as-of-yet-mysterious second part of implementing neuronics may make it easier to "combine" simple sets ("green" + "apple") since that will probably make it easier to perceive "actual results" as opposed to just defining something in neuronics.
 Quoting: Sabai_Adonais

English is more useful in an experience that sees the Self as being separate things, people, etc.

Neuronics is a way to communicate with your Self more directly. English and other languages are ways to communicate with certain parts of your Self more indirectly. That is how it is different.

Using English, we pretend there is something separate from us that we can communicate to.

Using Neuronics, we realise that we are producing our reality in real-time and the mental neuronicons is the code.

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[snipples]

You know, thinking about the advice you gave about the metaphysical meeting, to focus on the surroundings because we/I am the surroundings, that's sort of the key, isn't it?

The "first time" I interpreted a time non-linearly, 2020 to 2015ish, it was after I "meditated" with the intent to perceive 2015 and focused on where I'd be, but more on the position of the furniture that'd be around me.

The second and third times weren't so obvious, the second time I couldn't tell you what I was focusing on. Consciously, on the show I was watching. Un/subconsciously, I don't know. I felt absolutely terrible though for about an hour before- and after- hand and there was a marked excess in sprite/static activity. The third time I just woke up "in the past," briefly, but I hadn't paid any conscious focus before I went to sleep.
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What would you say if we built a genius to accomplish the goal of physical gold oz to equal $20,000? Fed coin / ruble coin.

Most of the gold paper all ready in storage. True.

Gold-backed CBDC would decouple the paper gold physical market?
 Quoting: SpawnX

Sounds good. You start :)
 Quoting: The Builder


Now when I interact with my symbol. I will get the idea of inversion, focus on the loser side, loss. The fear side. To which will allow me to see the totality of oneself. I lived so much in the winner mindset with the 24k prediction (and nothing). But it's time to start panicking catch up to the inversion so one is closer to being able to choose the most relevant interpretation.
 Quoting: SpawnX

Have you ever tried doing the opposite of what your 'inner voice' tells you to do?

Could that 'inner voice' be inverted? It tells you "yes, do it" but you hear, "no, don't do it"?

Bonus question: If you heard "yes, do it" and did the opposite, how does that relate to fear?
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English is more useful in an experience that sees the Self as being separate things, people, etc.

Neuronics is a way to communicate with your Self more directly. English and other languages are ways to communicate with certain parts of your Self more indirectly. That is how it is different.

Using English, we pretend there is something separate from us that we can communicate to.

Using Neuronics, we realise that we are producing our reality in real-time and the mental neuroicons is the code.
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What are neuroicons
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English is more useful in an experience that sees the Self as being separate things, people, etc.

Neuronics is a way to communicate with your Self more directly. English and other languages are ways to communicate with certain parts of your Self more indirectly. That is how it is different.

Using English, we pretend there is something separate from us that we can communicate to.

Using Neuronics, we realise that we are producing our reality in real-time and the mental neuroicons is the code.
 Quoting: The Builder


What are neuroicons
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Corrected. I meant 'neuronicons'

They are the symbols found on the Neuronics website that represent the four aspects of perspective: [link to neuronics.one (secure)]
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Hello.

Say, for example, there was a task to speak and comprehend Spanish fluently.
The current perspective only understands English.

What relationships need to come into view to "skip" the learning and instead know Spanish?

Current methodology for most perspectives wanting a new language would be building relationships with "flash cards" or have an "immersion approach".
Yet both of these relationships are perceived as learning and take ample "linear time".

What relationships could be built to know Spanish once more, instead of "learning" it?
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What would you say if we built a genius to accomplish the goal of physical gold oz to equal $20,000? Fed coin / ruble coin.

Most of the gold paper all ready in storage. True.

Gold-backed CBDC would decouple the paper gold physical market?
 Quoting: SpawnX

Sounds good. You start :)
 Quoting: The Builder


Now when I interact with my symbol. I will get the idea of inversion, focus on the loser side, loss. The fear side. To which will allow me to see the totality of oneself. I lived so much in the winner mindset with the 24k prediction (and nothing). But it's time to start panicking catch up to the inversion so one is closer to being able to choose the most relevant interpretation.
 Quoting: SpawnX

Have you ever tried doing the opposite of what your 'inner voice' tells you to do?

Could that 'inner voice' be inverted? It tells you "yes, do it" but you hear, "no, don't do it"?

Bonus question: If you heard "yes, do it" and did the opposite, how does that relate to fear?
 Quoting: The Builder

I've been thinking about doing opposite more than ever. Even playing joke just "do opposite of my X". Which is becoming more real, and less of a joke.

It's almost hurtful when the inner voice is interpreted as wrong after a process of events.

Relates to fear as the construct of my self, the fundamentals of faith in myself, the inner voice, is skewing me towards betrayal chaos. Aoc, psssh, try dealing with BoC, hehe

One would think if I progressed with inner voice that it would give me all the fun chaos I prefer. And not the inverted mind of it's own plan.
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They are not 'the cult of Satan'. They are called the synagogue of Satan.

Jesus Christ of Nazareth clearly named it and they conspired to have Jesus crucified, the hunted down and killed the apostles and forbade the speaking of Jesus name in public.
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How is everyone today? :)
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How is everyone today? :)
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Confused, largely. But that's okay, too
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How is everyone today? :)
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No, of course the experience is still present, but the
Would you say that your 'subconscious' self would want you to appreciate this, or be aware of the decision?
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I would say that it doesn't matter to the "subconscious" self. All that "matters" to "it" is feeling that it exists, no? If that's the case, then an experience is an experience is an experience. And appreciating difference is an experience.

With some things, I wouldn't care if my "conscious self" wasn't aware of the difference. I'd be quite content to just have an even complexion and a clean house, not knowing the experience of anything else.

With other things, appreciating the difference is the experience, like with my quest to ""time travel,"" that's moot if I don't know the difference between 2022 and 2012. The primary intended experience, then, isn't even to "make the different decisions" or to see-again the expressions of relationships as I remember them, but to know the difference and thus make different things relative "going forward"

It may not be relevant to the Self, but to the "conscious self" or whatever one'd call it, comparison is what makes the good things good and the bad things bad. Interpretations, all, of course, but the difference is what makes some appreciate what they're experiencing in the now-present. Not all; some get too hot in the summer and complain. Some, though, get hot and find it thoroughly enjoyable even if it's "too hot" because the winter was definitely "too cold," though the "too cold" was also enjoyed because they remembered how hot they were in the summer.

"Magenta" didn't exist before just now. I just made it up. It seems as though it's always existed, and I can have many experiences surrounding perceiving the color magenta and the ideas associated with it without being aware of just how I "made it come in to existence," but the perception of "making something come into existence" is an other flavor of perception unto itself. And I think that there is also value in that experience, as there must be because it is an experience.
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You also make up everything else that you are experiencing, just now. You aren't aware of 'decisions', nor do you need to be. (More accurately than a 'deicion', you experience that which is most relative.)
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This is getting into the illusion of free will, which I've gathered isn't your favorite topic of discussion at the 2009-to-now-present. Free will may not exist, but the illusion of it does, which seems to be enough. Which must be as true as it can be because "Here, We Uncover the Deception, Understand Why It Was Needed in the First Place, and Regain Our Sense of Self to Walk Along the Path of Freedom and Prosperity. The Choice, As All Ways, is Yours To Make

But then how to make the "choice" that's not a choice?:)

Sure, but now with you having said that, I can "access" those perspectives and see how only one part is different, or how it can be seen as 500 different things. In difference, there is "learning"
 Quoting: Sabai_Adonais

Learning only has value to physically-oriented awareness that experiences times and spaces more disparately.

"Learning" is irrelevant to the Self. The Self does not learn anything. It is only when one forgets the Self that something can appear to be learned.
 Quoting: The Builder


Learning is forgetting. Talk about inversion. Makes "learning how to remember" sorta impossible, though

The Self doesn't care about growing or learning as we think of it. That's only important for our (very) limited view of reality.

It can be argued that ignorance and not-learning are just as valuable, as that is the only way the Self is unfolded in order to have a sense of reality. In order to perceive details, we need to forget about the Self.
 Quoting: The Builder


Of course they're just as valuable, they're the same thing from a different perspective.

But it is nice to be able to "look back" and reflect on what you've learned, even though you've ""learned"" it all just now. Isn't "learning," and, like, "practicing" just making experiences more relative? Like someone learning to play the piano and practicing until they're good, that's just going from a "don't-know-how-to-play-the-piano" perspective to a "master-of-piano" perspective, from a physical perspective.

Though, I notice that those who are truly good at things tend not to have learned the things or are relatively good at "picking them up" without too much thought. Which, I guess, is a discrepancy in the definition of "learning." You can say you learned how to sing well by doing it and finding the techniques that make the voice sound better or project more, but you didn't really "learn" it by thinking about it. In fact, once I started to "learn" music theory, I got worse at singing. That was frustrating.

"Learning" is a confusing topic.

You asked, before, how we "learn," and from where I'm standing now that seems to be through difference. Epistemology is an annoying subject to try and discuss, though, with English's ever-more obvious limitations.

Interestingly, I think this may be part of the "problem" I have with neuronics. I assume it's somewhat different in application to alphabetical language, but I can't yet appreciate what the difference actually is so can't apply it against the "known" of alphabetical language. Interesting to think about
 Quoting: Sabai_Adonais

Think of it more like a map in your brain, with sets being the landscape you place upon it that can help you formulate your experience.

A handicapped form of this would be something like English.
 Quoting: The Builder


The landscape, though, comes through syntax. This is the case even with handicapped versions such as English; two people can both be using English, but depending on how they structure English in their minds, they will have vastly different internal and external experiences.

Just one example of a more complex set would be helpful. Not to copy, to learn from. Though I guess maybe the as-of-yet-mysterious second part of implementing neuronics may make it easier to "combine" simple sets ("green" + "apple") since that will probably make it easier to perceive "actual results" as opposed to just defining something in neuronics.
 Quoting: Sabai_Adonais

English is more useful in an experience that sees the Self as being separate things, people, etc.

Neuronics is a way to communicate with your Self more directly. English and other languages are ways to communicate with certain parts of your Self more indirectly. That is how it is different.

Using English, we pretend there is something separate from us that we can communicate to.

Using Neuronics, we realise that we are producing our reality in real-time and the mental neuronicons is the code.
 Quoting: The Builder


Emphasis mine. That's quite a difference, though, in terms of how it's used. I know how to use English to communicate with less-relative parts of my Self, not so much how to use a language to communicate to the Self its-self, when there's no separate "thing" to communicate with.

[snipples]

You know, thinking about the advice you gave about the metaphysical meeting, to focus on the surroundings because we/I am the surroundings, that's sort of the key, isn't it?

The "first time" I interpreted a time non-linearly, 2020 to 2015ish, it was after I "meditated" with the intent to perceive 2015 and focused on where I'd be, but more on the position of the furniture that'd be around me.

The second and third times weren't so obvious, the second time I couldn't tell you what I was focusing on. Consciously, on the show I was watching. Un/subconsciously, I don't know. I felt absolutely terrible though for about an hour before- and after- hand and there was a marked excess in sprite/static activity. The third time I just woke up "in the past," briefly, but I hadn't paid any conscious focus before I went to sleep.
 Quoting: Sabai_Adonais

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I mean, I get the concepts I think, correct me if I'm wrong, I've experienced the sense of being dynamic space that I'm focusing "inward" from, in dreams. I do not know how to "use" the concepts, yet, though. But attempting to sense the environment-self rather than the body-self seemed to do something

Hello.

Say, for example, there was a task to speak and comprehend Spanish fluently.
The current perspective only understands English.

What relationships need to come into view to "skip" the learning and instead know Spanish?

Current methodology for most perspectives wanting a new language would be building relationships with "flash cards" or have an "immersion approach".
Yet both of these relationships are perceived as learning and take ample "linear time".

What relationships could be built to know Spanish once more, instead of "learning" it?
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This is a good question. If "learning" is just a process by which to illustrate relativity like I sorta talked about above, certainly the process could be abridged. Though, if you change the relationships, would you remember learning Spanish in "the past" or would you suddenly just know Spanish without "memory" of having learned it?
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How is everyone today? :)
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Decent but frustratingly unable to reply lately.
Maybe if I don’t bother to ask any of my questions or share anything of note, I will not be banned.
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"Although the cult of Satan works to spread Chaos, which is irrational, it does not mean that its agents are too crazy to function in society. They would, in fact, be considered experts or masters in an irrational society. They could be adept at artificial intelligence, for example, not because they are rational but because they are highly irrational. A rational mind would not build advanced technology, because advanced technology works against the survival of humanity. This is much of the reason why deception can work in their favour; it is difficult to see how each advancement of technology is a step back for humanity, and difficult to see how those pushing Chaos are acting irrationally. It is also how we got into this mess in the first place."

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Now you know why "Birds aren't real" has been pushed so hard (and how easy it is for the Cult to take advantage of the authority bias).



"4: Deception by Association
This is pegging something unattractive to what is 'true', For example, if the agents of chaos did not want people to give serious consideration to a particular idea they could create a fringe group that held those ideas. They would then make the group seem strange or crazy so that anyone considering certain beliefs or practices would be turned off in their pursuit. This can also be used as a 'honeypot', to shepherd those who are attracted to those kinds of beliefs and send them in the wrong direction."

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Hello.

Say, for example, there was a task to speak and comprehend Spanish fluently.
The current perspective only understands English.

What relationships need to come into view to "skip" the learning and instead know Spanish?

Current methodology for most perspectives wanting a new language would be building relationships with "flash cards" or have an "immersion approach".
Yet both of these relationships are perceived as learning and take ample "linear time".

What relationships could be built to know Spanish once more, instead of "learning" it?
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Hi :)

This can be done in a variety of ways. It is important to consider, however, that the experience would be what is most relevant.

Forget about what you've been exposed to with science fiction, though, unless it makes sense in the logical narrative of the story from the character's perspective.

Make up your own logical narrative. Plan it out, if you'd like. How do you get from point A to B in a way that makes sense to your experience? Better yet, produce something new (a new 'stepping stone') to bring the experience closer, sooner.

It probably doesn't mean that you'll be able to wake up with knowledge of Spanish in your current experience, but it might mean that you meet a Spanish girl and you learn far more rapidly than you would have otherwise.

There is nothing to stop you from building a reality whereby 'instant knowing' or something like that is possible, however.

How do you do it? You just make it up.

The easiest way? Write a story about it and listen to the characters, who will point the way. Then, become the story.

Also, refer to the last part of this thread:
Thread: Notes from an "alternate universe": The Revelation of the Real World (Page 23)

Hope it's enough to get you started with production :)
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Sounds good. You start :)
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Now when I interact with my symbol. I will get the idea of inversion, focus on the loser side, loss. The fear side. To which will allow me to see the totality of oneself. I lived so much in the winner mindset with the 24k prediction (and nothing). But it's time to start panicking catch up to the inversion so one is closer to being able to choose the most relevant interpretation.
 Quoting: SpawnX

Have you ever tried doing the opposite of what your 'inner voice' tells you to do?

Could that 'inner voice' be inverted? It tells you "yes, do it" but you hear, "no, don't do it"?

Bonus question: If you heard "yes, do it" and did the opposite, how does that relate to fear?
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I've been thinking about doing opposite more than ever. Even playing joke just "do opposite of my X". Which is becoming more real, and less of a joke.

It's almost hurtful when the inner voice is interpreted as wrong after a process of events.

Relates to fear as the construct of my self, the fundamentals of faith in myself, the inner voice, is skewing me towards betrayal chaos. Aoc, psssh, try dealing with BoC, hehe

One would think if I progressed with inner voice that it would give me all the fun chaos I prefer. And not the inverted mind of it's own plan.
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Think of it this way... if your subconscious self was sending you a message, so to speak, that you think says "turn right" it actually says "turn left".

There are times we forget this (such as now) and times we remember it. When we forget, the world turns to the opposite of what is was before.
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They are not 'the cult of Satan'. They are called the synagogue of Satan.

Jesus Christ of Nazareth clearly named it and they conspired to have Jesus crucified, the hunted down and killed the apostles and forbade the speaking of Jesus name in public.
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The Cult includes pretty much every human alive. Without our support, there is no Cult.

The system fears us tremendously, but we don't realise it because we are generally ignorant and stupid.

The Cult is us. It is the system that we have, unfortunately, created for ourselves.

Take away all the people that have smartphones, use internet, watch movies and television shows, use central bank notes, eat processed food, etc., (all things which the Cult produces to diminish our sense of self, and/or harm us directly) and you are left with a very, very, very small number of people who are neither active nor passive members of the Cult.
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Think of it this way... if your subconscious self was sending you a message, so to speak, that you think says "turn right" it actually says "turn left".

There are times we forget this (such as now) and times we remember it. When we forget, the world turns to the opposite of what is was before.
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This is a fascinating thread of logic.
So perspectives are programmed so extensively that fear is both the door and the prison.

Recently saw a ghost upon waking.
It was floating, a tint of blue, back turned.
Absurd amount of detail.

Suffice to say the fear-factor of sleeping & dark rooms has been amped up.

What are some materials to better remember this strange paradox? ...And break past it?
Ironic to ask, as it seems the common thread here is that the perspective alone determines how!

Surely there practical uses of fear...
Beyond perspectives exploring the feeling, as you've detailed here:

From my observations about humanity, most of what we want is to feel the want rather than to actually 'have' it. There could be more value in the wanting than pursuing the want, like a journey being sometimes more valuable than its destination.

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It seems fear can be both a prison and a catalyst.
In this naivete, wondering how one teeters proper between boldness and cautiousness.
You could say a misstep in logic means evicting your body.
Or does it? to assert otherwise, to wrangle in the current logic structures...

Reminded of "Light on the Path" by Mabel Collins:

"To be able to stand is to have confidence"; and to have confidence means that the disciple is sure of himself, that he has surrendered his emotions, his very self, even his humanity; that he is incapable of fear and unconscious of pain; that his whole consciousness is centered in the divine life, which is expressed symbolically by the term "the Masters"; that he has neither eyes, nor ears, nor speech, nor power, save in and for the divine ray on which his highest sense has touched. Then is he fearless, free from suffering, free from anxiety or dismay; his soul stands without shrinking or desire of postponement, in the full blaze of the divine light which penetrates through and through his being. Then he has come into his inheritance and can claim his kinship with the teachers of men; he is upright, he has raised his head, he breathes the same air that they do.

[link to pomf2.lain.la (secure)] to those curious.

Hi :)

This can be done in a variety of ways. It is important to consider, however, that the experience would be what is most relevant.

Forget about what you've been exposed to with science fiction, though, unless it makes sense in the logical narrative of the story from the character's perspective.

Make up your own logical narrative. Plan it out, if you'd like. How do you get from point A to B in a way that makes sense to your experience? Better yet, produce something new (a new 'stepping stone') to bring the experience closer, sooner.

It probably doesn't mean that you'll be able to wake up with knowledge of Spanish in your current experience, but it might mean that you meet a Spanish girl and you learn far more rapidly than you would have otherwise.

There is nothing to stop you from building a reality whereby 'instant knowing' or something like that is possible, however.

How do you do it? You just make it up.

The easiest way? Write a story about it and listen to the characters, who will point the way. Then, become the story.

Also, refer to the last part of this thread:
Thread: Notes from an "alternate universe": The Revelation of the Real World (Page 23)

Hope it's enough to get you started with production :)
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Thank you for imparting the confidence. Reread your Genius excerpt and will begin a narrative.

Have you written us in this story, this story of a thread? :)

If anything, the confidence shared reading these things is greatly appreciated.

It is your perspective that determines what makes sense, not any outside authority such as 'God', the laws of physics, or the universe or whatever.

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"The real masters are the intellects who suggest in a suggestible way that which you cannot resist."
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Now when I interact with my symbol. I will get the idea of inversion, focus on the loser side, loss. The fear side. To which will allow me to see the totality of oneself. I lived so much in the winner mindset with the 24k prediction (and nothing). But it's time to start panicking catch up to the inversion so one is closer to being able to choose the most relevant interpretation.
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Have you ever tried doing the opposite of what your 'inner voice' tells you to do?

Could that 'inner voice' be inverted? It tells you "yes, do it" but you hear, "no, don't do it"?

Bonus question: If you heard "yes, do it" and did the opposite, how does that relate to fear?
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I've been thinking about doing opposite more than ever. Even playing joke just "do opposite of my X". Which is becoming more real, and less of a joke.

It's almost hurtful when the inner voice is interpreted as wrong after a process of events.

Relates to fear as the construct of my self, the fundamentals of faith in myself, the inner voice, is skewing me towards betrayal chaos. Aoc, psssh, try dealing with BoC, hehe

One would think if I progressed with inner voice that it would give me all the fun chaos I prefer. And not the inverted mind of it's own plan.
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Think of it this way... if your subconscious self was sending you a message, so to speak, that you think says "turn right" it actually says "turn left".

There are times we forget this (such as now) and times we remember it. When we forget, the world turns to the opposite of what is was before.
 Quoting: The Builder


Doesn't how the ""yes do it" and doing the opposite" thing relate to fear relative to what the "voice" is talking about? What "fear" are we talking about? There's the fear that prevents one from doing what's "right" or "good for them," but there's also the fear engendered by being approached by an axe murderer. I'd assume the discussion is more around the former

What if you have more than one "voice," and each happens to "advise" you in opposing ways? Angel and devil on the shoulders, so to speak. Both are very logical to themselves. But each are conditioned, the angel and the devil would be representations of one's judgements of "good" and "bad," but those are determined in the average individual by what (the cult)ure tells them is so. This leads to doing "good" things and avoiding "bad" things for the wrong reasons, reasons which are ultimately "harmful" to the Self (promote forgetfulness). The angel and the devil are also primarily logics of the "conscious" Self and aren't necessarily indicators of "messages from," so to speak, the "subconscious." So the question becomes "how to hear the 'metaphysical' voice beyond the angel and the devil?" Which is a rough question because it could be argued that the angel and the devil are "subconscious" voices, as the "programming" of (the cult)ure becomes automatic in response and not everyone recognizes that
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Hello.

Say, for example, there was a task to speak and comprehend Spanish fluently.
The current perspective only understands English.

What relationships need to come into view to "skip" the learning and instead know Spanish?

Current methodology for most perspectives wanting a new language would be building relationships with "flash cards" or have an "immersion approach".
Yet both of these relationships are perceived as learning and take ample "linear time".

What relationships could be built to know Spanish once more, instead of "learning" it?
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Hi :)

This can be done in a variety of ways. It is important to consider, however, that the experience would be what is most relevant.

Forget about what you've been exposed to with science fiction, though, unless it makes sense in the logical narrative of the story from the character's perspective.

Make up your own logical narrative. Plan it out, if you'd like. How do you get from point A to B in a way that makes sense to your experience? Better yet, produce something new (a new 'stepping stone') to bring the experience closer, sooner.

It probably doesn't mean that you'll be able to wake up with knowledge of Spanish in your current experience, but it might mean that you meet a Spanish girl and you learn far more rapidly than you would have otherwise.

There is nothing to stop you from building a reality whereby 'instant knowing' or something like that is possible, however.

How do you do it? You just make it up.

The easiest way? Write a story about it and listen to the characters, who will point the way. Then, become the story.

Also, refer to the last part of this thread:
Thread: Notes from an "alternate universe": The Revelation of the Real World (Page 23)

Hope it's enough to get you started with production :)
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What I don't understand about this approach, the making your own logical steps and writing a story approach, is that that's the "conscious" Self using it's logic which isn't what is necessarily logical to the "subconscious" Self so wouldn't necessarily "get you where you want to go," or not in any efficient or timely manner. Idk
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What's with the cult's obsession with the 80's in contemporary media
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Is this basically a what is good is evil and what is evil is good now thread?
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Is this basically a what is good is evil and what is evil is good now thread?
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Where'd you get that idea
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What would you say if we built a genius to accomplish the goal of physical gold oz to equal $20,000? Fed coin / ruble coin.

Most of the gold paper all ready in storage. True.

Gold-backed CBDC would decouple the paper gold physical market?
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Sounds good. You start :)
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How's your genius 'thing' interacting?

Mine detached barely hanging in.

What happens next.
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There are three issues with physical gold.

1) It is not rare. There is far more physical gold than is publicly believed (all ready in storage, not in newly-found mines).

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It's not rare in storage, but rare outside of storage? Any GPS coordinates where I can scoop gold out in nature?


The big cabal boys have it in storage. Increasing the price of gold, a win-win?

Increasing price of gold take their away their ability to create money out of nothing? Probably not. Control the gold in storage, and keep it relatively cheap (production cost). And continue to goal of cashless programmable central bank digital currency.


Paper scheme collapses, spoofing continues for how long? If spoofing gets destroyed how much oz can I trade for cult dollars.
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So, I gather that when you define something in neuronics , you define what you would perceive, not what you wouldn't. So like if you're ill, define health. But it's not always so easy to see what would be there in the absence of whatever you'd like to "go away." A while back there was talk of transferring sickness onto something else, which I get conceptually, you're reinterpreting the thing you don't want as something else, but how to do that in neuronics?

Thanks:)
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Which aspects of the teeth/regions of the mouth represent which parts of the trinity?





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