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Notes from an "alternate universe": The Revelation of the Real World

 
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[snip....]
Manipulate others in your reality, just as they do. With one fundamental difference: realize that it is wholly you.
[snap....]
 Quoting: The Builder


Yes you are wholly me. My interpretation of 'soul' has me lost. I can see my local neighbors. I see through there eyes for a second. Is it fair to say that my 'soul' is wholly theirs. That if I was born as my neighbor, I would have not changed one damn thing. My 'soul' is wholly your 'soul'. I am losing the ability to make a case that my soul is any different than you, you, and ofc you.


[snip....]
From this, the next step is realizing that it is happening metaphysically, as in a dream.
[snap....]
 Quoting: The Builder


Metaphysically

That alternate universe that escapes the grasps of my consciousness.

With all the noise buzzing through my headphones, how can I even begin to map an alternate universe within.

With unspoken words traveling between two worlds, I remain oblivious to the words traveling between the two worlds.

Why do I choose this? For the benefit of discovering one may think.

How can I consider metaphysical connections with all the lovely comforting chaos needing to be consume.

Metaphysical was here before you were here.

Is it fair to say I existed metaphysically before physically, and have lost touch?

Lost touch so much I pretend I am alone.

Software without the hardware, it's all about the connections, software its the vital life force.

I can almost believe, see, transferring metaphysical to physical, as a lazy creature let's skip step one and just muster some consistency.
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When it comes to self-governance and the willingness to stand alone, how far does All That Is go into the solitude, and why? Does it access any greater understanding of its facets?

Including the dissonant ones, I mean. You know what’s really difficult? When your family-kinds are like that.

Would you watch a child move unwittingly toward its demise?
Would you save it from itself?

I’d slap you once, perhaps. What would you do?
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I briefly woke up in the year 2041. I was at a historic event in Washington DC, USA, where a Trans Bot, Roberta, was officially given Human Rights. Right to life and liberty, freedom from slavery and torture, freedom to internal opinion and external expression, the right to work and access to predetermined education, and many more.

I seen victorious politicians cheering on BLM. 'BLM' Bot Lives Matter. Roberta then gave a speech on HLM which lead to indoctrination of all trans bot.

I was able to watch all this happen through my 'eye phone' from my surrogate. My social credit allowed my surrogate to enter the prestigious venue of this historically event.

Later that night, flashes of the year 2099 was brought forth... The headline 'The last mortal has been finalized'

What a night mere..
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Realize how this 'evil' came to be, why we chose it, why we continue to choose it, and why it is 'good' for now (until it is no longer, given enough time).
 Quoting: The Builder


The evil came to be through caricatures. I cannot see myself in these characters roles, as I cannot see myself as mickey mouse. Fictitious Meta fiction not to be interpreted as wholly thy self. I cannot interpret metafiction as my own heart.
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It is more interesting to accelerate the process rather than 'save' anything. The former seems more rational.
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Oooooh. I steep in that temptation to accelerate processes today and in my representations of prior cycles of waking.

I have this idea that laying a solid foundation takes time, for it to be stable. I also have an associated idea that stability itself is not a stable phenomenon. What to do?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74533487

We would not know if a foundation is solid until it has survived the test of time. The longer it does, the more stable it is.
 Quoting: The Builder


I wonder wonder wonder....okay test of time is functional though don't you think it's actually what is "above" the foundation that must survive? the house may fall and the foundation would still be there.

And it could be built on again. I think this is what some refer to as the prana of stability? It's not about permanance of a form or rigidity of structure, but flexibility of regenerative capacity (hmmmm)
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Nothing need survive, because nothing does. Our interpretations are what appears to survive the test of time. The longer an interpretation survives, the more relevant to our being it could be said to be.

Really the question is more like, "How long can I hold this interpretation?" The longer is seems you can hold it, the more balanced between Chaos/Order it could be said to be, and thus the 'closer' it is to what can be called the Absolute.

0 - "The Absolute"
1 - Awareness
2 - Perception
3 - Space
4 - Time

1 and 2 make up perspective. They work together.
3 and 4 make up its physical interpretation. They also work together.
3 is a different way of looking at 1 (Chaos).
4 is a different way of looking at 2 (Order).

Apologies if the above doesn't make much sense.

You know, it reminds me of a first conversation I had back in the chat site about the difference between "going with the flow like a tree" and "going with the flow like grass"...in terms of how each might "survive the test of the storm".

It gets me thinking about: does time have any relevance beyond the cycles of weathering? The cold and heat transfers and pressure differentials in sync with motive cycles of electromagnetic celestial bodies and interstellar entities.

What do you think?

P.S. I'm much more like grass these days, than a tree. Wbu?
(dare I say I'm like a fungus?? lol. and no, i don't do drugs except caffeine which is my self-governed decision to partake)
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All of those are interpretations brought about by the interplay of 1 and 2 above.

Why interplay and not perfect balance? Because then, there would be no awareness or perception.

But.. there is also space (Chaos) to consider. Any two points in 'space' are the same and only divided by time, and the opposite is also true. So the more points of 'time' there are the more Chaos that builds under it, eventually expressed. And so here we are.
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Well hold up. Space is at least also divided by space, is it not? It's like rooms of a house. Or cells of tissue.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74533487

It can't be divided by something that wasn't there in the first place. Think of 'space' as a secondary interpretation of primary 'awareness'.
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Makes sense to me, chaol

I see it
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Fictional characters don't die. Their real meaning is often found in their supposed deaths. These dramas are evolving in my own self.
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I’m sorry. I find this statement too curious to pass over.

Care to expound?
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"The important thing is not to stop questioning. Curiosity has its own reason for existing. Never lose a holy curiosity. Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance." Albert Einstein
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This is how I made it more relatable to my cognition. I remembered Portability of Conjectures and reduced resistances to the sound formulas presented by placing more familiar sound formulas in their stead.

I used fully capitalized letters to make it readily obvious where the changes have been made. This is not a demonstration of disagreement. Actually it is not about agreeing or disagreeing for me, but what I have seen through experimenting with the technical arrangement.

It can be seen in the alternate model of this technical arrangement that I did not alter 0 - "The Absolute". The reason I did not alter it is because the implication I perceive in the arrangement suggests that testing this knowledge experimentally is sufficient to move the experience(r) closer.

Closer, initially, to that which sustains. Closer, from sustainability, to what here is referred to as 0 - "The Absolute". I'm not interested in representing an articulation of it any more than has already been referred to it.

Here's the interpretation of this place...

Really the question is more like, "How long can I hold this FORM?" The longer is seems you can hold it, the more balanced between Motion/Stillness it could be said to be, and thus the 'closer' it is to what can be called the Absolute.

0 - "The Absolute"
1 - AWARENESS
2 - PRESENCE
3 - DISTANCE
4 - DURATION

AWARENESS and PRESENCE make up PERSPECTIVE. They work together.

DISTANCE and DURATION make up its (Perspective's) physical FORM. They also work together.

DISTANCE is a different way of looking at AWARENESS (MOTION).

DURATION is a different way of looking at PRESENCE (STILLNESS).
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Makes sense to me, chaol

I see it
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:)
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Fictional characters don't die. Their real meaning is often found in their supposed deaths. These dramas are evolving in my own self.
 Quoting: The Builder


I’m sorry. I find this statement too curious to pass over.

Care to expound?
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

Sure, but on which part of the statement?
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[snippies..]Really the question is more like, "How long can I hold this FORM?" The longer is seems you can hold it, the more balanced between Motion/Stillness it could be said to be, and thus the 'closer' it is to what can be called the Absolute.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74533487

Wonderful! Hope you don't mind if I use that :)

0 - "The Absolute"
1 - AWARENESS
2 - PRESENCE
3 - DISTANCE
4 - DURATION

AWARENESS and PRESENCE make up PERSPECTIVE. They work together.

DISTANCE and DURATION make up its (Perspective's) physical FORM. They also work together.

DISTANCE is a different way of looking at AWARENESS (MOTION).

DURATION is a different way of looking at PRESENCE (STILLNESS).
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I like it.

DISTANCE from... all of what one is aware of?

DURATION of... the time one has had presence in current form?

Interesting.
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Fictional characters don't die. Their real meaning is often found in their supposed deaths. These dramas are evolving in my own self.
 Quoting: The Builder


I’m sorry. I find this statement too curious to pass over.

Care to expound?
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

Sure, but on which part of the statement?
 Quoting: The Builder


Really, as a whole. But if I must pick a part.....the last one. For sure.
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Fictional characters don't die. Their real meaning is often found in their supposed deaths. These dramas are evolving in my own self.
 Quoting: The Builder


I’m sorry. I find this statement too curious to pass over.

Care to expound?
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

Sure, but on which part of the statement?
 Quoting: The Builder


Really, as a whole. But if I must pick a part.....the last one. For sure.
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

Their meaning in life is to play a role in the (artificial) governance of the population. Such governance requires deception, because people rarely want to have 'the truth' presented to them. So, fictional characters, conditions, situations, realities, etc., are constructed.

Most don't look beyond the first layer of deception, and far fewer can see beyond the second layer. For example:

Layer 1: xxxx killed himself
Layer 2: xxxx was killed
Layer 3: xxxx wasn't a real person

Their media pushes the first layer narrative while their alternative media pushes the second layer narrative. All to keep one from realising the third layer, which unravels much of the mystery about any one of their other fictions or creations from McAfee, to Egypt, to Buddhism, and just about anything they promote or publish.

If the narrative is so deeply embedded in the cultural and historical narrative, like "Lincoln was killed", perhaps only the first layer is needed.

Layer 1: xxxx was killed at Ford Theatre
Layer 2: xxxx's killer was [whatever]
Layer 3: There was no such President

Because the person's life story is crafted from the beginning to serve a particular purpose, it can change over time to whatever is needed at the time. New photographs or depictions or story-lines can be inserted after the fact, for example.

A "US President" that supposedly served in 1800, for example, could have actually been invented in 1900 to serve whatever purpose is needed. These deceptions are not much removed from the fictional 'Donation of Constantine'.
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I’m sorry. I find this statement too curious to pass over.

Care to expound?
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

Sure, but on which part of the statement?
 Quoting: The Builder


Really, as a whole. But if I must pick a part.....the last one. For sure.
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

Their meaning in life is to play a role in the (artificial) governance of the population. Such governance requires deception, because people rarely want to have 'the truth' presented to them. So, fictional characters, conditions, situations, realities, etc., are constructed.

Most don't look beyond the first layer of deception, and far fewer can see beyond the second layer. For example:

Layer 1: xxxx killed himself
Layer 2: xxxx was killed
Layer 3: xxxx wasn't a real person

Their media pushes the first layer narrative while their alternative media pushes the second layer narrative. All to keep one from realising the third layer, which unravels much of the mystery about any one of their other fictions or creations from McAfee, to Egypt, to Buddhism, and just about anything they promote or publish.

If the narrative is so deeply embedded in the cultural and historical narrative, like "Lincoln was killed", perhaps only the first layer is needed.

Layer 1: xxxx was killed at Ford Theatre
Layer 2: xxxx's killer was [whatever]
Layer 3: There was no such President

Because the person's life story is crafted from the beginning to serve a particular purpose, it can change over time to whatever is needed at the time. New photographs or depictions or story-lines can be inserted after the fact, for example.

A "US President" that supposedly served in 1800, for example, could have actually been invented in 1900 to serve whatever purpose is needed. These deceptions are not much removed from the fictional 'Donation of Constantine'.
 Quoting: The Builder


So...what does ‘history’ even mean then anymore? Are you implying that Epstein and McAfee didn’t exist? This is the kind of stuff where I feel myself start to lose a little grip. What are you pointing to?

Then I jump to, well then do you really exist? Do I? What does that even mean...to exist....to be human...
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Builder...

When are you going to release the next section, The Wrest of Europe? Is there a timeline or is this more of a go-with-the-flow operation these days?
Just curious.

(‘The more you use the information...’ is leaving it open in a big way.)
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I still don't get what 'The Builder' gets outta interacting with folks like us, a brief distraction from, . Folks like us meaning consumer of public education.

The way I see it, Lady of Stars, in regards to most recent law of life, 'Do Unto Others Only While Doing The Same Unto Yourself'

When we look at these 'characters' Epstein and Mcaffeine, based on golden rule we would/coulda be/been that person (in your sense of interpretation). But the problem is the story behind them is fake. The people are real (perhaps, hard to find video on Epstein.)

I just extend the Hollywood stage beyond Hollywood. I am not wholly 'Captain Jack Sparrow' as its metafiction. Same could be said about the actors on the world's stage. The problem is that everyone relies on the government to govern folks. And for some reason people act like propaganda doesn't exist anymore. People love taking their daily hit of fear gets them senses all tingling.
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[snippies..]Really the question is more like, "How long can I hold this FORM?" The longer is seems you can hold it, the more balanced between Motion/Stillness it could be said to be, and thus the 'closer' it is to what can be called the Absolute.
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Wonderful! Hope you don't mind if I use that :)
 Quoting: The Builder


It doesn't make a difference.

0 - "The Absolute"
1 - AWARENESS
2 - PRESENCE
3 - DISTANCE
4 - DURATION

AWARENESS and PRESENCE make up PERSPECTIVE. They work together.

DISTANCE and DURATION make up its (Perspective's) physical FORM. They also work together.

DISTANCE is a different way of looking at AWARENESS (MOTION).

DURATION is a different way of looking at PRESENCE (STILLNESS).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74533487

I like it.

DISTANCE from... all of what one is aware of?

DURATION of... the time one has had presence in current form?

Interesting.
 Quoting: The Builder


Yeah that could work, I suppose. It's not like, even if I wanted to tell you how to do it, that you would do it the way I tell.
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I still don't get what 'The Builder' gets outta interacting with folks like us, a brief distraction from, . Folks like us meaning consumer of public education.

The way I see it, Lady of Stars, in regards to most recent law of life, 'Do Unto Others Only While Doing The Same Unto Yourself'

When we look at these 'characters' Epstein and Mcaffeine, based on golden rule we would/coulda be/been that person (in your sense of interpretation). But the problem is the story behind them is fake. The people are real (perhaps, hard to find video on Epstein.)

I just extend the Hollywood stage beyond Hollywood. I am not wholly 'Captain Jack Sparrow' as its metafiction. Same could be said about the actors on the world's stage. The problem is that everyone relies on the government to govern folks. And for some reason people act like propaganda doesn't exist anymore. People love taking their daily hit of fear gets them senses all tingling.
 Quoting: SpawnX


The way i see it…..he couldn’t do ‘it’ without us, nor us, without him. To build something meaningful that endures the test of time….Strength in Numbers.

One is the loneliest number…
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I still don't get what 'The Builder' gets outta interacting with folks like us, a brief distraction from, . Folks like us meaning consumer of public education.

The way I see it, Lady of Stars, in regards to most recent law of life, 'Do Unto Others Only While Doing The Same Unto Yourself'

When we look at these 'characters' Epstein and Mcaffeine, based on golden rule we would/coulda be/been that person (in your sense of interpretation). But the problem is the story behind them is fake. The people are real (perhaps, hard to find video on Epstein.)

I just extend the Hollywood stage beyond Hollywood. I am not wholly 'Captain Jack Sparrow' as its metafiction. Same could be said about the actors on the world's stage. The problem is that everyone relies on the government to govern folks. And for some reason people act like propaganda doesn't exist anymore. People love taking their daily hit of fear gets them senses all tingling.
 Quoting: SpawnX


The way i see it…..he couldn’t do ‘it’ without us, nor us, without him. To build something meaningful that endures the test of time….Strength in Numbers.

One is the loneliest number…

 Quoting: Lady of Stars


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So...what does ‘history’ even mean then anymore?
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History is fine, but information about history is terribly skewed by those that most publish it.

We know that Matt Damon is an actor who plays a role, yet imagine if people thought that Jason Bourne was a real person. That's where we find ourselves today, with fiction disguised as fact to serve a political narrative.

Are you implying that Epstein and McAfee didn’t exist?
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

They are like Jason Bourne, roles played by actors.

This is the kind of stuff where I feel myself start to lose a little grip.
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

There is a tremendous discrepancy between reality and what mass media shows us to be reality, so it is to be expected.

What are you pointing to?
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

The process of learning that you are the authority of your reality.

You're not just watching actors in a play, but producing and directing it.

Then I jump to, well then do you really exist? Do I? What does that even mean...to exist....to be human...
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

We exist as much as we possibly could.

For all intents and purposes yes, we both exist.

If you look for the 'meaning' you will never find it reliably. The meaning is itself. (The purpose is existence itself, and none other is needed.)
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Builder...

When are you going to release the next section, The Wrest of Europe? Is there a timeline or is this more of a go-with-the-flow operation these days?
Just curious.

(‘The more you use the information...’ is leaving it open in a big way.)
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

It was previously on a schedule but then I thought it could more easily be released in line with events and discoveries as they unfold on the 'world stage', so to speak.

The more the information is made use of, the more there will be. The sooner others make use of it, somehow, the sooner the 'new' information would appear.

That is to say, "reality is being written as we speak"
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(snip)

A "US President" that supposedly served in 1800, for example, could have actually been invented in 1900 to serve whatever purpose is needed. These deceptions are not much removed from the fictional 'Donation of Constantine'.
 Quoting: The Builder


I never heard of this, so I looked it up:

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

The Donation of Constantine (Latin: Donatio Constantini) is a forged Roman imperial decree by which the 4th-century emperor Constantine the Great supposedly transferred authority over Rome and the western part of the Roman Empire to the Pope. Composed probably in the 8th century, it was used, especially in the 13th century, in support of claims of political authority by the papacy.
 Quoting: wikipedia


So they already admit that the first layer is false. I imagine it would go like this

Layer 1: There is a decree from the 4th century that transfers authority over Rome to the pope
Layer 2: That decree is forged, possibly in the 8th century
Leyer 3: Emperor Constantine didn't exist (and we already know that the centuries ran in no way like they are presented to us)

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This is the kind of stuff where I feel myself start to lose a little grip.
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

There is a tremendous discrepancy between reality and what mass media shows us to be reality, so it is to be expected.
 Quoting: The Builder


Right. Exactly. I don’t know anyone who died in my little community from Covid (I’m surrounded by old timers) If this is a true pandemic, surely there would have been at least one. Pretty much everyone here has subscribed to the fear though and almost everyone I know around here has gotten vaccinated. Old and young alike. They look at me like I’m ‘anti-science’ and selfish. So what is one to do? Seriously

Then I jump to, well then do you really exist? Do I? What does that even mean...to exist....to be human...
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

We exist as much as we possibly could.

For all intents and purposes yes, we both exist.

If you look for the 'meaning' you will never find it reliably. The meaning is itself. (The purpose is existence itself, and none other is needed.)
 Quoting: The Builder


I bleed red. This I know.
(Read between the Li(n)es)
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Builder...

When are you going to release the next section, The Wrest of Europe? Is there a timeline or is this more of a go-with-the-flow operation these days?
Just curious.

(‘The more you use the information...’ is leaving it open in a big way.)
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

It was previously on a schedule but then I thought it could more easily be released in line with events and discoveries as they unfold on the 'world stage', so to speak.

The more the information is made use of, the more there will be. The sooner others make use of it, somehow, the sooner the 'new' information would appear.

That is to say, "reality is being written as we speak"
 Quoting: The Builder


Wtf did I just read.....lol

On the edge, huh?

Exciting times. High stakes.
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From another thread:



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People were seeing it in 1981 already.
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Leaving this here...


The Thunder, Perfect Mind

1:1 I was sent out from [the] Power,
and I have come to the aid of those who meditate upon me,
and I can be found in the company of those who search earnestly for me.
2 Look upon me, all you who meditate upon me!
And you who hear, listen to me!
You who await me, embrace me now!
3 Do not put me away from before your eyes,
nor make your speech my enemy, or foreign to your hearing.
4 Never and nowhere let yourselves be ignorant of me.
Be vigilant, so you do not lapse into ignorance!

2:1 For I am the First and the Last.
I am the one who is both honored and despised.
2 I am the harlot and the consecrated.
I am the wife and the virgin.
3 I am the mother and the daughter.
I am the body of my mother.
4 I am the barren one,
yet many are my sons.
5 I am she whose wedding is grand,
yet I have taken no husband to me.
6 I am the midwife and she who bears no young.
I comfort myself in my labor pains.
7 I am both bride and bridegroom.
My husband has fathered me.
8 I am the mother of my father,
and the sister of my husband, who is my son.
9 I am the slave of him who trained me.
I am the ruler of my children.
10 But he is the one who [fathered me],
before the due-date, on a birthday.
11 And he is my own offspring [at] the proper time,
and my power comes from him.
12 I am the sceptre of his power in his youth,
[And] he is the cane of my old age.
And everything befalls me according as he wills it.
13 I am the silence that is impenetrable
and the Epinoia, the idea to which the mind is drawn ever and again.
14 I am the voice of clashing echoes
and the word appearing under many forms.
I am the simple utterance of my name.

3:1 You who hate me, why do you love me
yet hate those who love me?
2 You who deny me actually confess me,
while you who think to confess me deny.
3 You who tell the truth of me are lying concerning me.
And you who speak lies have told the truth of me.
4 You who know me–forget me!
And those who are ignorant of me, come learn of me!
5 For I am knowledge and unknowing.
I am cringing and boldness.
6 I am shameless and ashamed.
I am strength and I am fear.
7 I am both war and peace.
Heed my words!
8 I who am both disgraced and esteemed most highly.
9 Take note of my poverty and my wealth.
Be not haughty to me when I am fallen in the gutter,
[and] you will find me among [those whose] turn is coming.
10 Nor despise me [on] the dung-heap,
or walk away without lifting me up,
and you will see me again sitting enthroned.
11 Let your gaze not linger upon me, expelled with the disgraced
to the lowest places, nor make sport of me there.
And do not fling me forth on the heap of murdered corpses.
12 But as for me, I am compassionate and I am cruel.
13 Beware!
Do not resent my service
but cherish the temperance I require.
14 When I am weak, abandon me not,
nor neglect to fear my power!
15 For why will you hate the fear of me
and curse my boastful pride?
16 But I am she who lies concealed in every fear,
the strength that fortifies him who trembles.
17 I am she who is weak,
and I am sleek and favorably situated.
18 I am oblivious and I am wise.

4:1 Why do your reasonings shun me?
For I shall say nothing to those who care not to invoke me,
and I shall appear and have my say.
2 So why have you hated me, you Greeks?
Because I am as a barbarian when with [the] barbarians?
3 Verily, I am the wisdom [of the] Greeks
and equally the knowledge of [the] barbarians.
4 I am the wise judgment of both Greeks and barbarians.
am the one whose image is ubiquitous among the Egyptians,
and who has no image among the ignorant barbarians.
5 I am the one who is everywhere despised
and who has been beloved everywhere.
6 I am the one whom they call Life,
but whom you have called Death.
7 I am the one whom they call Law,
but you call Lawlessness!
8 I am the one you have pursued,
the very one you seized and held.
9 I am the seed you scattered,
and you have gathered my fruit together.
10 I am the one before whose gaze you shrank,
yet you have been brazen to me.
11 I am she who does not keep festival,
yet I am always the belle of the ball.
12 I, even I, am godless,
and I am the one whose God is great.
13 I am the one who mirrors your reflection,
and you have shunned me.
14 I am untrained,
yet they apply to me for wisdom.
15 I am the one you always hated,
and yet you are obsessed with me.
16 I am the one from whom you have concealed yourself,
yet I see you plain as day.
17 But whenever you may hide yourselves,
I myself come into view.
18 But [whenever] you [appear],
I am [no longer visible].
19 Those who have sworn fealty to it
senselessly fail to heed it at all.

5:1 Take me as salvaging [understanding] from sorrow,
and embrace my lesson from understanding [and] grief.
2 Learn from me in places desolate and grim,
and take freely what they know who are good while mired in ugliness.
3 In a shameless plight shamelessly take me for your own
and, freed from shamelessness and shame alike,
reproach my limbs as you recognize them in yourselves.
4 Do not hold back, but come to me, you who know me
and you who know me intimately.
5 And plant the great ones among the young, small creatures.
Come, advance to childhood,
and do not disdain it because it is small and diminutive.
6 And do not turn away unwittingly from the greatness
concealed here and there in insignificant things,
for the tiny things are known in comparison to the great.
7 Why do you both curse me and honor me?
You have injured and have shown mercy.
8 Do not separate me from those you [knew] most anciently.
[And] do not expel anyone [or] refuse anyone shelter,
so that others will not refuse you and say, “I don’t [know] him.”
9 For when you cast them out, you cast me out.
What is mine is theirs, and theirs is mine.
10 I was with the [first intelligences],
and all from that time on [knew] me.
11 But I am the mind of the perfect and the rest of the soul.
I am the very knowledge after which I inquire,
12 and the success of those who search me out
and the mandate of those who ask about me,
13 and knowledge of me is the power of the Powers,
of the angels who have been dispatched at my command,
14 and of gods, each in his time, as I deem best,
and of the spirit of every man who abides with me
and of each woman who dwells in my house.
15 I am the one who is esteemed and praised,
and I am most scornfully despised.
16 I am peace
and war has come in my wake.
17 And I am a foreigner and a citizen.
I am wealth itself and the destitute urchin.
18 Those not keeping company with me are ignorant of me.
Those who share my substance, they it is who know me.
19 Those close beside me are in fact ignorant of me,
and those now far removed from me are they who once knew me.
20 Whenever I am close to [you],
you are far distant [from me],
21 and whenever I [am far] from you,
[I am by] your side.

6:1 [I am] your nature within.
[I am] the nature of the natures.
2 I am the beginning of the creation of the [spirits],
the reply to the]request of the souls.
3 I am the hand that controls and the uncontrollable.
I am both uniting and dividing.
4 I am the enduring as well as the dissolving.
I am that below, to which they rise up.
5 I am both condemnation and justification.
I, even I, am without sin,
and the very root of sin stems from me.
6 I am by appearance raging lust,
but the eye of my storm is self-control.
7 I am the ear by which all hear
and that utterance which none can grasp.
8 I am a mute who never speaks,
and endless is the flood of my words!
9 Hear me in serenity,
but learn my truth only amid trouble.
10 I am she who shouts aloud her invitation,
and I am hurled ignominiously to the ground.
11 I make ready the feast, even my mind within.
I am the very knowledge of my name.
12 I am the one who calls out,
and I listen quietly.
13 I appear and then I walk in your streets bearing the seal of my God.
I am the refuge and the defense of the humble.
14 I am the one called Truth,
and iniquity is a stranger to me.
15 You honor me openly,
and you whisper against me.
16 You who are defeated, judge them who defeated you
before they pronounce sentence upon you!
17 For judgment and partiality are found within you.
18 If you are condemned by this one,
who is left to acquit you?
19 Or if you are acquitted by him,
who is left to condemn you?***
20 For what is inside you is what is outside you,
and he who fashions you on the outside is the same as
the one who shaped the inside of you.*
21 So whatever you see outside you,
you see inside you.
22 It is visible to all
and clothes you like a garment.

7:1 Hear me well, you listeners!
Learn my words, you who know me!
2 I am the common hearing of the ear,
and I am the impenetrable riddle.
3 I am the name of the sound
and the sound of the name.
4 I am the shape of the letter
and the name assigned to the category.
5 And I am the sacred text
as well as the light shining upon the page.
6 Heed me, my hearers, for I speak to you of the Great Power.
And my tongue will not move the name.
7 I give glory to the one who created me.
And I will utter his name.
8 Then study his words
and every Scripture that has been completed.
9 Listen closely, then, you who hear me,
and you, too, all angels and apostles,
and you spirits who have risen from the dead.
10 For I am the One who alone exists,
and there is no one else to judge me!
11 For sin lies in wait in many pleasing forms,
along with profligacies
and degrading lusts
and ephemeral delights
which people embrace in their drunkenness
until they slink off to sober up.
12 And in that hour they will find me, and they will live,
never to die again.****
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Re: Notes from an "alternate universe": The Revelation of the Real World
What a season. Hard for super star to shine bright this year. I coined this year fall of sport's superstars. And for The Builder to be unsure of his interactions in this time period.. Hows the relationship with the omnibenevolent counterpart? 'They' are now here but also not, depending on interpretation?

How was the state of the world when story of Jesus was walking about. Not good. How was if after his story, not good. The good is found if one can interpret the good. But the bad seems deeper and more efficient of choosing. The balance of the pendulum to ever switch where more good is chosen? Doesn't seem like a 50-50 ratio.

I come here rattle my keyboard as I shake the magic 8 ball (the builder) in hopes of an entertaining reach in the 'truthful' 'future response. The new season seems like your character has lost the 'Maria' touch. Looking for another hit of that alternate meta world. But that world is now here and we lost basis with pure order?

6 years from now 9 years from now, the script is solid and will lead to your authors choosing..

Problem is I don't know what I expect from this place. Its a creative outlet for yourself, mission of telepathically imprinting your minds footsteps for others to veer inside your mind.

What do We, I, want to hear from you?
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Re: Notes from an "alternate universe": The Revelation of the Real World
(snip)

A "US President" that supposedly served in 1800, for example, could have actually been invented in 1900 to serve whatever purpose is needed. These deceptions are not much removed from the fictional 'Donation of Constantine'.
 Quoting: The Builder


I never heard of this, so I looked it up:

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

The Donation of Constantine (Latin: Donatio Constantini) is a forged Roman imperial decree by which the 4th-century emperor Constantine the Great supposedly transferred authority over Rome and the western part of the Roman Empire to the Pope. Composed probably in the 8th century, it was used, especially in the 13th century, in support of claims of political authority by the papacy.
 Quoting: wikipedia


So they already admit that the first layer is false. I imagine it would go like this

Layer 1: There is a decree from the 4th century that transfers authority over Rome to the pope
Layer 2: That decree is forged, possibly in the 8th century
Leyer 3: Emperor Constantine didn't exist (and we already know that the centuries ran in no way like they are presented to us)
 Quoting: Tuuur 3.0

I guess that's the one that got away and was difficult to hide. But it also makes it seem like it was the only one.
video 7: <<The Easy Way to Become Psychic and Experience Flow>> [link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
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Re: Notes from an "alternate universe": The Revelation of the Real World
This is the kind of stuff where I feel myself start to lose a little grip.
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

There is a tremendous discrepancy between reality and what mass media shows us to be reality, so it is to be expected.
 Quoting: The Builder


Right. Exactly. I don’t know anyone who died in my little community from Covid (I’m surrounded by old timers) If this is a true pandemic, surely there would have been at least one. Pretty much everyone here has subscribed to the fear though and almost everyone I know around here has gotten vaccinated. Old and young alike. They look at me like I’m ‘anti-science’ and selfish. So what is one to do? Seriously
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

Why would you need to do anything about how others feel?
video 7: <<The Easy Way to Become Psychic and Experience Flow>> [link to www.youtube.com (secure)]





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