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The Rapture - Escaping the Coming Judgement.

 
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Hi Judethz hf
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God sent his son to save not judge the world .he who believes is not judged .JESUS WORD IS THE JUDGE,believers &children are LEASTS GODS SON IS JUDGE .WOMEN DECIEVED BY SATAN SHALL BE SAVED BY CHILBIRTH.GOD IS SAVIOUR OF ALL MANKIND BUT ESPECIALLY THOSE WHO BELIEVE .GODS PROMISE IS ABSOLUTE THAT ALL THE NATIONS & ALL THE ***FAMILIES***OF THE EARTH ****SHALL BE BLESSED ****THROUGH ABRAHAM & HIS SEED JESUS CHRIST WHO'S WORD IS THE JUDGE,,,,,WOMEN SHALL BE SAVED BY CHILDBIRTH...JUDGED BLESSED FOREVER FOR DOING GOOD TO THE LEAST'S....CHILDREN
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Hi Judethz hf
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9teen Hiya HF
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God sent .....................................
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german7 That sure is a confusing message.
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blinkerrose Bump for Sunday.
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I was going to say something but there is no point.

Every warning has been ignored.

Only when you are starving and almost dead and surrounded by deepest darkness will you finally realise.

But it will be too late.

You have less than 2 months left now.

And no way to turn it around as your heart is seared beyond healing.

Your path is set and you will not repent or stop.

I pity you.

Mock as you will.

It will only make your impending darkness darker.

There is no escape now for you OP.

None.


It has been set.
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I was going to say something but there is no point.

Every warning has been ignored.

Only when you are starving and almost dead and surrounded by deepest darkness will you finally realise.

But it will be too late.

You have less than 2 months left now.

And no way to turn it around as your heart is seared beyond healing.

Your path is set and you will not repent or stop.

I pity you.

Mock as you will.

It will only make your impending darkness darker.

There is no escape now for you OP.

None.


It has been set.
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Thus sayeth you.

So what?
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If no Rapture for us, then we are here with you.

So what?
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Mock as you will.

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Mock what?
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lol good luck with that

your good lord hasn't saved anyone from their tribulations for over 2k years

why would he start now?
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Are you capable of discussion?

We will see...
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lol good luck with that

your good lord hasn't saved anyone from their tribulations for over 2k years

why would he start now?
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Why do you ask? As if you might believe?
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lol good luck with that

your good lord hasn't saved anyone from their tribulations for over 2k years

why would he start now?
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Why do you ask? As if you might believe?
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you know, i just had a smoke outside and asked myself why i bothered to make this comment. am i trying to destroy your faith? no, not really, i wouldn't want the responsibility of your lack of moral compass if you dropped your faith.

i suppose everyone yearns for an easy escape from their troubles.

this rapture nonsense is right up there with alien ascension myths, imho.

the only way anything will change in your life, is if YOU take action.

people are waiting for a saviour to save them.. well, i'm getting older now and i just don't have that kind of time to wait around!
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Amen. While fasting it hit me exactly what you said, and how scary that really is:

Our vast wealth has largely insulated us from the harsh realities of life that are common throughout the rest of the earth. People are not yet dying in the streets of starvation, but those days will soon be coming. Along with bone grinding poverty and a host of other evils

People in America have no idea what real suffering is, and as you said it IS coming to America, that is Biblical not vain prophesying.

In 1 month of no electricity people will begin starving and there will be chaos and looting and rioting and many bad things.

The culture is infatuated with death and zombies and that's what they will get. The economy is actually very fragile and is only being held up by the Spirit of God. When he removed his Spirit everything will crumble and Satan will also have free reign and who can stop him if the Lord lets it?
God is Jesus.
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Ha ha, see.. even those souls who had already been raptured wanted to escape from Almighty God wrath and be saved..

.. for these are the stu-pid ones who still think they have light in them.

epiclol

Jesus knew their thoughts and said to them, "Every kingdom divided against itself will be ruined, and every city or household divided against itself will not stand." - Matthew 12:26

"And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.

For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers[ity] places.

All these are the beginning of sorrows.

Then they will hand you over to tribulation, and they will kill you. And you will be hated by all nations for the sake of my name.

And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another." - Jesus in Matthew 24:6-10 Vulgate Bible



For then there will be a great tribulation, such as has not been from the beginning of the world until the present, and such as will not be.

And unless those days had been shortened, no flesh would be saved. But for the sake of the elect, those days shall be shortened. - Jesus in Matthew 24:21-22


stopposting1
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:sitquiet: The Holy Spirit is not something that can be faked. Hopefully you will come to understand this in time to be saved.
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And you are speaking to the one with Holy Spirit, and so you think you are saved?.

God sent his son to save not judge the world .he who believes is not judged .JESUS WORD IS THE JUDGE,believers &children are LEASTS GODS SON IS JUDGE .WOMEN DECIEVED BY SATAN SHALL BE SAVED BY CHILBIRTH.GOD IS SAVIOUR OF ALL MANKIND BUT ESPECIALLY THOSE WHO BELIEVE .GODS PROMISE IS ABSOLUTE THAT ALL THE NATIONS & ALL THE ***FAMILIES***OF THE EARTH ****SHALL BE BLESSED ****THROUGH ABRAHAM & HIS SEED JESUS CHRIST WHO'S WORD IS THE JUDGE,,,,,WOMEN SHALL BE SAVED BY CHILDBIRTH...JUDGED BLESSED FOREVER FOR DOING GOOD TO THE LEAST'S....CHILDREN
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this rapture nonsense is right up there with alien ascension myths, imho.

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Do you believe in Jesus Christ?
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people are waiting for a saviour to save them.. well, i'm getting older now and i just don't have that kind of time to wait around!
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Savior to save them from what?

What does time matter?

Are you not going there?
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bridec... It says in the Bible that the people and the nations... BrideA

that forget the Lord will be turned into Hell.
And at long last the peoples of the Western world are just beginning to find out how true that is. Our vast wealth has largely insulated us from the harsh realities of life that are common throughout the rest of the earth. People are not yet dying in the streets of starvation, but those days will soon be coming. Along with bone grinding poverty and a host of other evils that will make people who are still alive in 25 look back on 2020 as a very good year indeed.

The Great Tribulation was never made for those whom the Lord acknowledges as His own, it has been made for those who reject the Lord. Even now many backslidden 'Christians' act as if the serious events of the last few months are just a temporary setback. That things will be all right with the world and soon be back to normal. With some honorable exceptions the state of the Modern Day 'Church' is an absolute disgrace. They long ago ceased to be fit for purpose, and are like a termite ridden tree in the forest. Just waiting for a good strong wind to come along and finish them off for good.

The great evil that they have done is that they have left their congregation's unprepared for the wrath to come. We are not guiltless because we have become comfortable with and accept such evils as One World Religion, the Prosperity gospel, abortion, homosexuality, freewheeling sexual activity, and a host of other evils and petty distractions.

The result being that great numbers of them will be suddenly plunged completely unaware into a world of horror, want and savagery that is truly the stuff of nightmares. With only a small chance of gaining salvation as one of the Tribulation Saints.

Remember that the Rapture can happen at any moment, in the twinkling of an eye. You still been blessed with a little time, so if you have not made your self right with the Lord, turn to Him now with all your heart and He will be quick to hear you. But don't take all day about it, you could be hit by a bus tomorrow and then where would you be?
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Jesus says to the angels to pick up the tares first and destroy them. I wouldn’t want to be the first ones to be tooken. Plus. Most of revelations have been done already. Hence the evidence of all the old civilizations. Christ had his 1000 year rule. Satan has been released to deceive the nations once more. Next will be the great and terrible day of Armageddon
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bridec... It says in the Bible that the people and the nations... BrideA

that forget the Lord will be turned into Hell.
And at long last the peoples of the Western world are just beginning to find out how true that is. Our vast wealth has largely insulated us from the harsh realities of life that are common throughout the rest of the earth. People are not yet dying in the streets of starvation, but those days will soon be coming. Along with bone grinding poverty and a host of other evils that will make people who are still alive in 25 look back on 2020 as a very good year indeed.

The Great Tribulation was never made for those whom the Lord acknowledges as His own, it has been made for those who reject the Lord. Even now many backslidden 'Christians' act as if the serious events of the last few months are just a temporary setback. That things will be all right with the world and soon be back to normal. With some honorable exceptions the state of the Modern Day 'Church' is an absolute disgrace. They long ago ceased to be fit for purpose, and are like a termite ridden tree in the forest. Just waiting for a good strong wind to come along and finish them off for good.

The great evil that they have done is that they have left their congregation's unprepared for the wrath to come. We are not guiltless because we have become comfortable with and accept such evils as One World Religion, the Prosperity gospel, abortion, homosexuality, freewheeling sexual activity, and a host of other evils and petty distractions.

The result being that great numbers of them will be suddenly plunged completely unaware into a world of horror, want and savagery that is truly the stuff of nightmares. With only a small chance of gaining salvation as one of the Tribulation Saints.

Remember that the Rapture can happen at any moment, in the twinkling of an eye. You still been blessed with a little time, so if you have not made your self right with the Lord, turn to Him now with all your heart and He will be quick to hear you. But don't take all day about it, you could be hit by a bus tomorrow and then where would you be?
 Quoting: Judethz


Jesus says to the angels to pick up the tares first and destroy them. I wouldn’t want to be the first ones to be tooken. Plus. Most of revelations have been done already. Hence the evidence of all the old civilizations. Christ had his 1000 year rule. Satan has been released to deceive the nations once more. Next will be the great and terrible day of Armageddon
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There are 2 raptures. First the firstfruits before the great tribulation, after that at the end the tares are gathered together and burned and then the second rapture.
God is Jesus.
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Hence
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There are 2 raptures...
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Thus sayeth you.
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[link to youtu.be (secure)]

This video explains the Pre-Wrath position and claims to reveal the flaws in the Pre-Trib position.
It's worth watching.
Just in case anybody wanted to explore the Pre-Wrath teaching and timeline.

I do not claim to believe this teaching but it does seem more reasonable in many ways.

Did anybody notice that in 2020, many prophetic timelines that were shared online.. all fell apart?
The Watchmen channels on youtube used Stellarium charts, numerology, scripture & exhaustive efforts to search for the Pre-Trib Rapture.

[link to youtu.be (secure)]
This channel called Return of the King put out a Pre Trib rapture video today.
Check it out.
What do you think?

Brenda Weltner claims there are 3 raptures.
I cannot watch her videos. There seems to be fundamental errors that are completely dismissed by her adoring fan club.

Hundreds of rapture dreams and visions from last year got many people seeking videos instead of seeking and following Jesus.

Seek FIRST the Kingdom of God and His Righteousness"
"Love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul & mind"
Know and OBEY Jesus Words. Deny yourself, pick up your cross and FOLLOW JESUS.

Majority of these rapture videos don't preach TRUTH.
Jesus is the TRUTH. Follow & obey Him.
Jesus calls you to follow Him on the Narrow Way.
Few find the Narrow Way. Most don't even try to look for it.

They want to fly away with Jesus and escape. Period.

All last year I read comments from people becoming weary and distressed - they'd write about feeling desperate because they simply wanted to escape this world. Talk about The Mark made them scared of the vax. The hope of the rapture kept them going, I guess.
So many have put their faith in an easy escape.

What is even worse than that is the twisted doctrine that many accept as the gospel. OSAS.
The OSAS youtube channels use an ABC prayer - boom, you're saved - and then wait for the rapture.
That's it. That's all they believe. The mega churches teach that 'grace covers you' so don't worry if you sin. They call themselves 'Saved Sinners' and stay in sin .. this is not the gospel that Jesus preached.
They will argue endlessly that Jesus loves them just as they are, in sin and they have no reason to change.

Jesus said there would be wolves in sheep's clothing, false teachers and false prophets in these times.
He warned over and over and over about being deceived by false doctrines and divination/witchcraft in teachers and preachers.

So, just make sure you hear Jesus' voice;
"My sheep hear My voice and they follow Me."
Follow Him. Know Him. Listen to what he said.
Read His Words and obey them.

Watch that video about a Pre-Wrath Rapture. It a way to see things differently in case the rapture doesn't happen real soon.
Some will not be able to accept this view.

Bottom line;
The Pre-Wrath position includes the persecution of the Christians. The AC is revealed. Many believers fall away from the faith. There will be many martyrs.
You must be willing to die for following Jesus.
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If you're planning to try to escape it, it's going to be so much worse for you.

The ones who survive it are the ones with the integrity to face it.
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If you're planning to try to escape it,
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How?
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If you're planning to try to escape it,
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How?
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How what?

How do you escape it? You don't. If that was the question.
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For it will come as a snare
on all those who dwell on the face of the whole earth.
Watch therefore, and pray always
that you may be counted worthy
to escape all these things that will come to pass,
and to stand before the Son of Man
.


Luke 21:35,36



Have you ever prayed so?
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If you're planning to try to escape it,
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How?
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How what?

How do you escape it? You don't. If that was the question.
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How do you try to escape what?

What do you think I think I try to do?

I believe in Jesus Christ.

Do you?
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In My Father's house are many dwelling places; if it were not so, I would have told you; for I go to prepare a place for you.
If I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself, that where I am, there you may be also.


John 14:2,3


Does it say anything about me doing something?
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Come, my people, enter your chambers,
And shut your doors behind you;
Hide yourself, as it were, for a little moment,
Until the indignation is past
.

For behold, the LORD comes out of His place
To punish the inhabitants of the earth
for their iniquity;
The earth will also disclose her blood,
And will no more cover her slain.


Isaiah 26:20:21


Seek the LORD, all you meek of the earth,
Who have upheld His justice.
Seek righteousness, seek humility.
It may be that you will be hidden
In the day of the LORD's anger.


Zephaniah 2:3


For in the time of trouble
He shall hide me in His pavilion;
In the secret place of His tabernacle
He shall hide me
;
He shall set me high upon a rock.


Psalm 27:5


Would you like the Lord to hidden at the Lord's Place during the time of trouble when the inhabitants of the earth are being punished?

Would you?

I would.

Please Lord.
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For it will come as a snare
on all those who dwell on the face of the whole earth.
Watch therefore, and pray always
that you may be counted worthy
to escape all these things that will come to pass,
and to stand before the Son of Man
.


Luke 21:35,36



Have you ever prayed so?
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Yes, in my treachery to myself to try to avoid looking at all I am and have been.

You don't "escape" judgment. However, if you are right with yourself (and God, but yourself is far more important than one would think) you can escape the fate of finding yourself "wrong" in judgment without forgiveness to offer yourself.

Praying is far less important than repenting, and repenting in the light of day in witness to those you have "wronged" is more powerful than prayer.





GLP