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IVERMECTIN; Critical information about Covid 19

 
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You must listen to the video by Syed and Gaertner. They say using animal ivermectin can kill you. This is exactly what they do not want you to do. You have to get a doctor to prescribe the human variety. If you are an alcoholic the ivermectin could give you brain damage.
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I will post this and then check back tomorrow.

Great video analysis of the paper I linked on my first post.

This also discusses the dosages used. (Some interesting information regarding this at about the 50-minute mark to the end, when he answers audience questions and near the end he talks a little bit about vitamin C also.)

Dr. Puya Dehgani-Mobaraki (Italian ENT specialist) interviews Dr. Pierre Kory on the Emerging Evidence for Ivermectin as a solution to the COVID-19 pandemic.



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If it were up to me, I would personally fire Anthony Fauci and the entire NIH board for what I believe to be collusion with Gilead Sciences (the manufacture of remdesivir) for profiting from human suffering by pushing an expensive and now proven to be ineffective drug (remdesivir) while ignoring worldwide evidence for more effective treatment options.

All of the above is my personal opinion and goes beyond the scope of my current discussion, I would encourage you to also do your own research and draw your own conclusions.


Good luck and much love to GLP.

We must continue to be brave and fight political corruption, fraudulent elections, and medicine that is often controlled by pharmaceutical company profits and other potentially nefarious interests.

This includes the risk of rushing into what I believe has, to date, been poorly tested vaccine options. This has only been allowed to be rushed into at this point because of a lack of any treatment options for Covid 19 that are considered to be effective. If ivermectin is recognized as an effective treatment, which many credible people believe it is, then there cannot be a rush (without more stringent safety testing) in the production of what I believe to be potentially dangerous and poorly tested vaccines to be possibly forced on populations, such as our military.

I also believe this is the bottom line and I believe that not only is there credible evidence for a well-coordinated effort to take away what little freedom we have left, but potentially also our long-term health.
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I defend ivermectin since the Very beggining.
These FLCCC crew however are MASK tards.
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Bumping thread. This is life saving info.
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Bumping thread. This is life saving info.
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I am not condoning this!!!, but since so many people have asked, here is a video explaining Ivermectin horse worming paste dosing. Also, many people made some rather interesting comments about the video. One of them that I found interesting was that while Ivermectin is generally safe, Moxidectin is not and can be quite toxic. Also, someone correctly commented that Ivermectin should not be used with alcohol or grapefruit juice. There are other counterindications also such as pregnancy, breastfeeding, young children, and anything that weakens the blood-brain barrier. These are some of the reasons you would want to get a health care provider involved. That being said, the overall safety profile of (human) Ivermectin is quite good.




As always, this is not medical advice and presented merely for entertainment and discussion purposes.

I would recommend that if you suspect that you have Covid, or have been significantly exposed to Covid; print the article at the beginning of my post and discuss these findings with your health care provider, and also discuss obtaining a prescription for human ivermectin.
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I’ve heard about ivermectin earlier from a bunch of local farmers.

Last Feb/March when things were heating up, the discussion was that right on the packaging for the ivermectin for their cattle - it states that it is effective against coronaviruses. They said that it’s extremely effective and you just dose for weight. Easy to purchase at any vet clinic.

The reason it isn’t public knowledge is because it’s so cheap! Nobody stands to make insane gobs of money off of ivermectin. And they can’t shut the world down if something as readily available as ivermectin works. Glad to see that it’s making its way to getting more acknowledgment.

Great post OP!
 Quoting: lemonrumba


Farmers use one form of Ivermectin for a cattle back-drench for bots. This is a topical (skin) application.

The first reports that came out on anti-covid properties of this anti-parasitic drug was a hospital setting in New Jersey, where the fourth floor got treated for scabies when a resident came down with it.

The rest of the hospital, including the staff, had a covid wave hit, but nothing on the skin-treated Ivermectin-treated fourth floor.

So, I put it on my skin with coconut oil, near any wounds where covid could come in, as it has happened to me before.

The skin is an excellent filter... the digestive system is, too, but skin works fine for Ivermectin.

A previous post in this thread had info on an online way to order the scabies dosage for humans.

No one here is playing Doctor... do what you wish... my-your body... my-your choice!!!
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I’ve heard about ivermectin earlier from a bunch of local farmers.

Last Feb/March when things were heating up, the discussion was that right on the packaging for the ivermectin for their cattle - it states that it is effective against coronaviruses. They said that it’s extremely effective and you just dose for weight. Easy to purchase at any vet clinic.

The reason it isn’t public knowledge is because it’s so cheap! Nobody stands to make insane gobs of money off of ivermectin. And they can’t shut the world down if something as readily available as ivermectin works. Glad to see that it’s making its way to getting more acknowledgment.

Great post OP!
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Farmers use one form of Ivermectin for a cattle back-drench for bots. This is a topical (skin) application.

The first reports that came out on anti-covid properties of this anti-parasitic drug was a hospital setting in New Jersey, where the fourth floor got treated for scabies when a resident came down with it.

The rest of the hospital, including the staff, had a covid wave hit, but nothing on the skin-treated Ivermectin-treated fourth floor.

So, I put it on my skin with coconut oil, near any wounds where covid could come in, as it has happened to me before.

The skin is an excellent filter... the digestive system is, too, but skin works fine for Ivermectin.

A previous post in this thread had info on an online way to order the scabies dosage for humans.

No one here is playing Doctor... do what you wish... my-your body... my-your choice!!!
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Interesting about the skin drench and the floor being treated for scabies remaining Covid free. I am not surprised by this.

On a personal note, I keep chickens and ducks for fresh eggs and we treat them with the ivermectin topical skin drench every spring to rid them of parasites. Trying to get a syringe containing a small amount of Ivermectin skin drench into the armpit of a flapping bird results in sometimes getting more of the product on us than the bird. I am not recommending this, but I have never observed any ill effects from using it on the birds, either to us or to the birds .

This is the product we use on the chickens (only a tiny amount, about 2cc) if anyone is curious and has chickens. Our vet told us to do this, so I was aware that it can be absorbed topically but I don't think anyone has studied topical absorption in humans.



[link to www.amazon.com (secure)]

Another observation: I have also used the injectable form of Ivermectin on my goats. Last year some of them got some horrible mite infection, and we had to inject them all once weekly for 3 weeks to get rid of the mites and prevent them from spreading. After the first round of injections, the goats knew what was coming, so weeks 2 and 3 became a goat rodeo! It cleared up the mites and the goats did fine.

This was the product we used on our goats, if anyone is curious, and we also dosed by the weight of the goat.

[link to www.amazon.com (secure)]



Again, not medical advice or veterinary advice in any sense!!! just for discussion and entertainment purposes.

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This all is assuming COVID-19 is real.

It's never been isolated, (therefor, it doesn't exist in the lab), so it can't have a treatment.

It can't have a vaccine, because they've never isolated it.

It's a lie, a hoax.

I do appreciate the effort of the OP, but I cannot invest time in something that's never been proven to be real.

Yes, I did read the OP.

Prove to me that it exists.

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They have the entire genome of the virus. The virus is plenty real. Yes, the media has overhyped it to the max, but it is real and it does kill a fair number of people.

Read more and talk less until you gain some perspective.
that's why god gave us 2 ears and only 1 mouth. :)
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If it were up to me, I would personally fire Anthony Fauci and the entire NIH board for what I believe to be collusion with Gilead Sciences (the manufacture of remdesivir) for profiting from human suffering by pushing an expensive and now proven to be ineffective drug (remdesivir) while ignoring worldwide evidence for more effective treatment options.

All of the above is my personal opinion and goes beyond the scope of my current discussion, I would encourage you to also do your own research and draw your own conclusions.


Good luck and much love to GLP.

We must continue to be brave and fight political corruption, fraudulent elections, and medicine that is often controlled by pharmaceutical company profits and other potentially nefarious interests.

This includes the risk of rushing into what I believe has, to date, been poorly tested vaccine options. This has only been allowed to be rushed into at this point because of a lack of any treatment options for Covid 19 that are considered to be effective. If ivermectin is recognized as an effective treatment, which many credible people believe it is, then there cannot be a rush (without more stringent safety testing) in the production of what I believe to be potentially dangerous and poorly tested vaccines to be possibly forced on populations, such as our military.

I also believe this is the bottom line and I believe that not only is there credible evidence for a well-coordinated effort to take away what little freedom we have left, but potentially also our long-term health.
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That also has Boticide. Is that a problem / dangerous?
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ivermectin is a boticide
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Pls help me understand.

I have IVERMAX, got it at a local animal supply store for about $6 just in case of an emergency need.

It says "Anthelmintic and Boticide".

I have zero chemistry, biology, medical background . Attempted to look up "Boticide" but zero results in dictionary. Just. did not want to be taking something harmful. Am getting the impression "Boticide" is not a chemical rather it is maybe a class of products?

Thanks
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bot = "parasitic larvae of botflies"
cide = "to kill"
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Thanks.
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That also has Boticide. Is that a problem / dangerous?
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ivermectin is a boticide
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Pls help me understand.

I have IVERMAX, got it at a local animal supply store for about $6 just in case of an emergency need.

It says "Anthelmintic and Boticide".

I have zero chemistry, biology, medical background . Attempted to look up "Boticide" but zero results in dictionary. Just. did not want to be taking something harmful. Am getting the impression "Boticide" is not a chemical rather it is maybe a class of products?

Thanks
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Bots are also parasites that are killed by Ivermectin.

"Though bots may not cause a serious damage to the horse, they can be a real threat to the overall health of your horse especially when they are left uncontrolled and when other equine parasites exist. Fortunately, horse owners do not need to fret because these infestations are easy to treat. Bots are best killed by Ivermectin dewormer when given at a right dose."
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I believe this is the product you are talking about:
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It appears to contain 1.87% of Ivermectin. There are obviously fillers and other ingredients that are not listed as "active ingredients" on the label as only 1.87% of the product is the active ingredient, ivermectin, so inert fillers are obviously present. You would have to ask a veterinarian what those fillers are because I have no idea, other than they are not the "active ingredient" and are probably there to help get it down the horse's throat and maybe make it taste better to the horse.

These products are intended for animal use and are not recommended for human use.

I would strongly recommend you talk to a health care provider about human ivermectin if you feel that you have Covid-19 or have been significantly exposed, but if you want to make an emergency kit for your horse worming purposes, that is up to you.

Again, not medical advice, posted for discussion and entertainment purposes only.
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Thanks for your reply and thanks for your dedication to truth.
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Holy $hit…Talk about irony…
This was a bulletin published by the WHO , Vol 82, Number 8, August 2004

The title:
Mass treatment with ivermectin: an underutilized public health strategy
From the paper, less than 50%- (emphasis mine)

“Merck’s patent on ivermectin expired in 1996, though it was extended for different periods in various countries. Thus, other companies’ ivermectin preparations are now commercially available. Bioavailability of drugs depends on formulation and manufacturing processes, so the results obtained with the ivermectin manufactured by Merck may not apply to the new products. It is thus encouraging to see clinical trials evaluating new formulations of this valuable drug.”

“Of particular importance was the finding that ivermectin was highly effective against Strongyloides stercoralis, with a 94% reduction in prevalence that was sustained for nine months. This provided field evidence for a paper that predicted that strongyloidiasis in heavily endemic communities could be successfully controlled with a highly effective drug, owing to its low transmission potential (2). The evidence presented by Heukelbach et al. adds considerably to evidence from smaller-scale controlled trials (3–6).”

Ivermectin has valuable public health applications for controlling strongyloidiasis and scabies (by breaking the infection cycle through its therapeutic effect) and filariasis, through its effect on transmission. Ivermectin also acts against other intestinal nematodes, but it is not the most effective drug available. In control programs for filariasis, ivermectin is the drug of choice in areas with onchocerciasis, but can be replaced by diethylcarbamazine for control of other filarial diseases.”
“It is time to capitalize on the full public health potential of ivermectin. Carefully designed studies to evaluate the efficacy of community-wide ivermectinbased control programmes for strongyloidiasis and scabies in developing countries are indicated, as are similar studies in marginalized communities in developed countries with high prevalences of these two diseases, including indigenous communities in Australia.”

[link to www.who.int (secure)]

So… according to WHO’s published documents, we were underutilizing mass treatment with ivermectin for worms, but they are now ignoring it for Covid, when we have now a growing body of scientific evidence for its effect and, yet they turn a blind eye????

In my opinion, this tells you everything you need to know about the WHO’s Covid agenda.


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Something for everyone to consider.

I am not a horse but have been accused of being a jackass so if in a difficult health situation should be ok for horse products.
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This is excellent information. Thank you OP
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This is all INSANE.
Pfizer Vax: 95% effective
CDC natural immunity: ages 0-70 99%, 70+ 95% effective
You get the VAX.... Did your body kill it or did Pfizer VAX?
"A CDC update Wednesday says individuals are more likely to survive the coronavirus after contracting it. The health agency says if you have the virus between the ages of 0 to 70, you have a 99% survival rate. And if you’re over 70, the survival rate is nearly 95%."
"Primary efficacy analysis demonstrates BNT162b2 to be 95% effective against COVID-19 beginning 28 days after the first dose;170 confirmed cases of COVID-19 were evaluated, with 162 observed in the placebo group versus 8 in the vaccine group"
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Going through the thread today to clean up any possible misinformation and came across the above, which mentions the claimed efficacy of the Pfizer vaccine of 95%.
(I realize the poster was talking also about natural immunity( which I have no problem with), but want to clear up some of what I believe could be misinformation in those early and extremely optimistic Covid vaccine press releases.)

In my opinion and assessment, any statements regarding vaccine efficacy and presumed safety are more of the CDC parroting the press releases of the vaccine company rather than credible long-term scientific data.

What the drug companies are really saying:

(Less than 50% quoted, emphasis mine)

“There is a race to get the public vaccinated, so we are willing to take more risks,” Tal Brosh, head of the Infectious Disease Unit at Samson Assuta Ashdod Hospital, told The Jerusalem Post."

When Moderna was just finishing its Phase I trial, The Independent wrote about the vaccine and described it this way: “It uses a sequence of genetic RNA material produced in a lab that, when injected into your body, must invade your cells and hijack your cells’ protein-making machinery called ribosomes to produce the viral components that subsequently train your immune system to fight the virus.”

“In this case, Moderna’s mRNA-1273 is programmed to make your cells produce the coronavirus’ infamous coronavirus spike protein that gives the virus its crown-like appearance (corona is crown in Latin) for which it is named,” wrote The Independent.

"Brosh said that this does not mean the vaccine changes people’s genetic code. Rather, he said it is more like a USB device (the mRNA) that is inserted into a computer (your body). It does not impact the hard drive of the computer but runs a certain program.
But he acknowledged that there are unique and unknown risks to messenger RNA vaccines, including local and systemic inflammatory responses that could lead to autoimmune conditions."


“We will have a safety profile for only a certain number of months, so if there is a long-term effect after two years, we cannot know,” Brosh said, adding that we could wait two years to discover them, “but then we would have the coronavirus for two more years.”

Linial expressed similar sentiments: “Classical vaccines were designed to take 10 years to develop. I don’t think the world can wait for a classical vaccine.”
But when asked if she would take the vaccine right away, she responded: “I won’t be taking it immediately – probably not for at least the coming year,” she told the Post. “We have to wait and see whether it really works.

[link to www.jpost.com (secure)]

And it’s not like vaccine companies have such a perfect track record that their methods are above reproach. There is a real tendency whenever big money is involved to magnify success and greatly downplay failure.

We cannot forget that in the rush to get a Polio vaccine, the early vaccines were inadvertently contaminated with a cancer-causing monkey (simian SV-40) virus and then administered to a whole generation of children, prompting concerns that these children would later have an increased risk of certain cancers:

Immunization Safety Review: SV40 Contamination of Polio Vaccine and Cancer:

The development in 1949 of a technique for growing the virus in tissue cultures (Enders et al., 1949) was soon followed by successful trials of a trivalent killed-virus vaccine. In 1954, 400,000 of 1.8 million children from the United States, Canada, and Finland actually received the potentially contaminated inactivated poliovirus vaccine (IPV) developed by Salk and colleagues (Francis et al., 1957). The vaccine was licensed for use in the United States in 1955.

Testing confirmed that some of the tissue cultures used in producing IPV and OPV were contaminated with SV40. In 1961, the U.S. government established requirements for testing to verify that all new lots of polio vaccine are free of SV40 (Egan, 2002). Potentially contaminated vaccine from previously approved lots of IPV was not recalled, however, and might have been used until early 1963.

IPV administered between 1955 and 1963 to about 98 million children and adults is assumed to be the primary source of human exposure to SV40 in the United States.4 In addition, experimental lots of OPV contaminated with SV40 was administered to about 10,000 people participating in clinical trials between 1959 and 1961.

In rodents, the injection of SV40 has been associated primarily with four types of cancer: mesothelioma, osteosarcoma, ependymoma, and lymphomas. Investigators have also detected SV40 DNA in human forms of these cancers. All but NHL are very rare, and they are described briefly here.

In summary, the committee's scientific assessment concludes that moderate to strong lines of biological evidence support the theory that SV40 contamination of polio vaccine could contribute to human cancers.


Specifically, the evidence is strong that:


SV40 contaminated some polio vaccine used from 1955–1963, and SV40 has transforming properties in several experimental systems.


In addition, evidence has accumulated suggesting that SV4012 is likely present in some human tumors. The data regarding detection of SV40 in many but not all mesothelioma samples, coupled with the evidence for the oncogenic potential of SV40, suggest that SV40 could contribute to cancers in humans13. However, it is not clearwhat proportion (if any) of the people exposed to the SV40-contaminated vaccine were infected, what proportion (if any) of the human cancers in which SV40 is detected are caused by the SV40, that the sole source of SV40 is due to the contaminated polio vaccine, or that SV40-contaminated polio vaccine did or did not cause cancer in the vaccine recipients.

The committee concludes that concerns about exposure to SV40 through inadvertent contamination of polio vaccines are significant because of the seriousness of cancers as the possible adverse health outcomes and because of the continuing need to ensure and protect public trust in the nation's immunization program.”

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]

Note the major concern in this summary is not over the acknowledged increase risk of cancer-related to the vaccine contaminated with cancer-causing virus, but rather potentially eroding the "public trust in the nation's immunization program".

In my opinion, the above statement should tell you all you need to know about public policy for vaccine safety stringency.

So.. remember folks, it doesn't change your hard drive, it's just a "harmless" USB drive to run a specific program.

wtf

Of course none of the above should be considered to be medical advice, it is merely presented for entertainment and discussion purposes.


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I have taken it post-exposure, two doses, per the I-MASK+ protocol with no ill issues. I am heading back into work weekly now and will begin the weekly prophylactic protocol. I will probably end up doing 150 mcg instead of 200 since I plan to do this for the foreseeable future. I’m not hot on the mRNA vaccine, but would take the AZ/Oxford vaccine if it became available in the US.

This is information everyone needs. Ivermectin is too important to go under the radar.
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Bumping a vital thread.
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Everyone needs to know this.
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Ivermectin article:
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Math+ protocols from EVMS
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Thanks for this...according to the Math+,

"Ivermectin for postexposure prophylaxis (200 ug/kg immediately, then repeat on day
3) and prophylaxis in high-risk groups (200 ug/kg day 1, then day 3 and then every 4
weeks)"

When I did the math based on weight, I'm supposed to take
30mg of ivermectin once per day, should I become ill with CV-19.

Please explain to me how one takes such a minute quantity of medicine aside from pet meds, if the doctor won't provide it before or after hospitalization?!

Also,

What do you think about this statement from the FDA?:

"FDA is concerned about the health of consumers who may self-medicate by taking ivermectin products intended for animals, thinking they can be a substitute for ivermectin intended for humans. People should never take animal drugs, as the FDA has only evaluated their safety and effectiveness in the particular animal species for which they are labeled. These animal drugs can cause serious harm in people. People should not take any form of ivermectin unless it has been prescribed to them by a licensed health care provider and is obtained through a legitimate source."

[link to www.fda.gov (secure)]
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Ivermectin article:
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Math+ protocols from EVMS
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 Quoting: emerald eye


Thanks for this...according to the Math+,

"Ivermectin for postexposure prophylaxis (200 ug/kg immediately, then repeat on day
3) and prophylaxis in high-risk groups (200 ug/kg day 1, then day 3 and then every 4
weeks)"

When I did the math based on weight, I'm supposed to take
30mg of ivermectin once per day, should I become ill with CV-19.

Please explain to me how one takes such a minute quantity of medicine aside from pet meds, if the doctor won't provide it before or after hospitalization?!

Also,

What do you think about this statement from the FDA?:

"FDA is concerned about the health of consumers who may self-medicate by taking ivermectin products intended for animals, thinking they can be a substitute for ivermectin intended for humans. People should never take animal drugs, as the FDA has only evaluated their safety and effectiveness in the particular animal species for which they are labeled. These animal drugs can cause serious harm in people. People should not take any form of ivermectin unless it has been prescribed to them by a licensed health care provider and is obtained through a legitimate source."

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In order to try and answer your questions, I need to reiterate a couple of things.


1.This thread in no way purports to offer medical advice that should come from ONLY your personal health care provider. If that person refuses to review the information you present and openly discuss this with you, I would recommend finding a more open-minded health care provider. Granted, some states have tried to limit what health care providers can do with respect to treating Covid 19, but most of that misguided heat seems to have been applied to the use of hydroxychloroquine. This is a well-written paper, paper with good data (better than there ever was on remdesivir in my opinion), and gives healthcare providers scientifically credible information to at least consider when discussing treatment options with their patients. I am personally prepared to go to the medical board in my state with my attorney and with this paper in my hand if I need to, but I hope it will never come to that because I cannot ethically ignore this information.

2.What this thread IS intended to do is to provide the material (linked paper and Math+ protocol) to allow you to open a discussion with your health care provider about your risks and options.

3. Most low-risk people seem to do well with this infection, do well so please don’t panic and jump into treatment if you do not need it or are not high-risk for exposure!!!

4.In this thread, I am not encouraging or condoning any human use of animal ivermectin. There may be other components in animal ivermectin that are inappropriate for humans and correct dosage is always important. If needed, human ivermectin is what should be used and this should only come from your health care provider because, despite its general safety, you may have unusual risks or side effects that may need to be monitored. I have allowed alternative viewpoints to be presented and linked for the sake of free discussion, but I cannot personally condone humans using animal ivermectin.

Also, what else would you expect the FDA to say? They don’t even want to condone ivermectin for human use with Covid 19, along with the WHO, NIH, Fauci, etc. All of this is despite the fact that the WHO now lists (human) Ivermectin as an “essential medication” and in 2004 stated, “It is time to capitalize on the full public health potential of ivermectin”. Of course, this was with respect to parasites, while now the WHO, NIH etc. appear to be ignoring the favorable world-wide Covid 19 data on ivermectin, while instead focusing on nearly worthless remdesivir and poorly tested vaccine prospects. However, this does demonstrate the current hypocrisy of the WHO, NIH, FDA, Fauci, etc.

5. It is, therefore, my position that we are working within a corrupt and self-serving system that does not appear to have at heart the best interests of the general population on multiple, multiple levels.

6.This thread is also intended to make clear that, in my opinion, forcing OR coercing any vaccinations for Covid 19, and especially a brand new( and in my opinion, poorly tested) mRNA vaccine on anyone is reckless and unnecessary and may represent undisclosed motives and risks.

7.All of that being said, I will comment that 30 mg is a very high dose of ivermectin, and the maximum dose listed in the paper I presented (for discussion with your health care provider) was a maximum dose of 28 mg for persons with a weight range of 291-310 lbs. or 132-140 kg. Are you sure you are reading the table correctly?? A weight in those ranges would constitute an additional risk factor, and all of this should be discussed with your personal health care provider and any treatment with ivermectin should be only under their direct supervision.

Not trying to be evasive, just as honest and open as I dare to be.

All of the above is only my personal opinion and NONE of this is intended as any type of medical advice, that type of advice and any medical treatments should come ONLY from your own personal health care provider.


Good luck, and I wish you the very best.hfhfhf

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Bumping for excellent info.
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I am not offering medical advice for anyone at all. I am merely sharing my own personal experience. Nothing more.

I took a post-exposure 2 x doses a few weeks ago. I had no ill effects. I have started the 150 mcg/kg pre-exposure prophylaxis regimen on a once weekly basis as I must work in an office building.

I am using an oral paste for horses. The key to really note is that ivermectin is the SOLE active ingredient. There are some products out there for animals that combine ivermectin with other drugs. It is important to know exactly what medications one might take. I do not promote animal ivermectin use. I am just expressing my personal experience.
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All GLPers should be aware of this.
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I’ve heard about ivermectin earlier from a bunch of local farmers.

Last Feb/March when things were heating up, the discussion was that right on the packaging for the ivermectin for their cattle - it states that it is effective against coronaviruses. They said that it’s extremely effective and you just dose for weight. Easy to purchase at any vet clinic.

The reason it isn’t public knowledge is because it’s so cheap! Nobody stands to make insane gobs of money off of ivermectin. And they can’t shut the world down if something as readily available as ivermectin works. Glad to see that it’s making its way to getting more acknowledgment.

Great post OP!
 Quoting: lemonrumba


Farmers use one form of Ivermectin for a cattle back-drench for bots. This is a topical (skin) application.

The first reports that came out on anti-covid properties of this anti-parasitic drug was a hospital setting in New Jersey, where the fourth floor got treated for scabies when a resident came down with it.

The rest of the hospital, including the staff, had a covid wave hit, but nothing on the skin-treated Ivermectin-treated fourth floor.

So, I put it on my skin with coconut oil, near any wounds where covid could come in, as it has happened to me before.

The skin is an excellent filter... the digestive system is, too, but skin works fine for Ivermectin.

A previous post in this thread had info on an online way to order the scabies dosage for humans.

No one here is playing Doctor... do what you wish... my-your body... my-your choice!!!
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I think I prefer the oral "horse paste" due to easier dosing. The tubes are set up to deliver the dose by the weight of the animal being treated. The dosage is the same regardless of species. It is used on horses, cows, sheep, and goats, and it is done by the weight. There no reason to believe it would be any different for humans. The micro-grams per kilogram recommended for animals is exactly the same as it is for humans. If you can, get the unflavored if you plan to use it yourself. The apple flavor tastes like rubbing alcohol.
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Not just GLPers. Everyone should know that the China virus can be cured quickly and inexpensively. I an telling everyone. Most of them just blow it off, but some take the information to heart. Some of them are already using Ivermectin prophylacticly to prevent infect after exposure.
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Dear GLP,
I am a member that lurks but has not posted for a long time, mainly because of all the trolls and shills that seem to run wild on this board. However, the many decent and honest people here deserve to know this potentially lifesaving information, so hopefully, I remember how to post this.

I have been in health care for many years and I have been on the front lines of Covid-19 now many months. I am not here to debate if you think Covid is real or not (it is) or if you should wear a mask (only a good one, many are garbage) or if we should have lockdowns (no, it think we can effectively treat this and keep economies running as are many nations in the world are currently successfully doing). I am instead posting here for one purpose only, and that is to provide you with information that I believe is potentially able to save your health and possibly your life.

I am posting a link to this medical paper, now in pre-print, which reviews the worldwide data on the use of ivermectin and effectiveness of ivermectin in the prophylaxis and treatment of Covid-19.

[link to osf.io (secure)]

The institutions with authors involved in this paper include; St. Luke’s Medical Center in Milwaukee, WI., University of Tennessee Health Science Center, Memphis, TN., Hackensack School of Medicine, Seaton Hall, NJ., University of Texas Health Science Center, Houston, TX., Center for Balanced Health, New York, Volda Hospital, Volda, Norway, Princess Elizabeth Hospital, Guernsey, UK, Lung Center of America, Dayton Ohio, Eastern Virginia Medical School, Norfolk, VA.

If you don’t want to wade through the technical language posted below, the following video reviews and explains this paper in easily understood terms and is presented by Chris Martenson Ph.D. (not M.D.) I often think Ph.D.’s often do a better job of data analysis than do MDs. I am not sure how long this video will be available online for obvious reasons.



This paper, titled; “Review of the Emerging Evidence Demonstrating the Efficacy of Ivermectin in the Prophylaxis and Treatment of COVID-19” explains the following:
(The following is a less than 50% summary of the paper)

“Repeated, consistent, large magnitude improvements in clinical outcomes have now been reported when ivermectin is used not only as a prophylactic agent but also in mild, moderate, and even severe disease states from multiple, large, randomized, and observational controlled trials.

"Further, data showing impacts on population-wide health outcomes have resulted from multiple large “natural experiments” that appear to have occurred when various regional health ministries and governmental authorities within South American countries initiated “ivermectin distribution” campaigns to their citizen populations in the hopes the drug would prove effective."

"The tight, reproducible, temporally associated decreases in case counts and case fatality rates in each of those regions compared to nearby regions without such campaigns suggest that ivermectin is proving to be a global solution to the pandemic. This is now further evidenced by the recent incorporation of ivermectin as a prophylaxis and treatment agent for COVID19 in the national treatment guidelines of Egypt as well as the state of Uttar Pradesh in Northern India, populated by 210 million people.”

“Further compounding these alarming developments was a wave of recently published negative results from therapeutic trials done on medicines thought effective for COVID-19, that now virtually eliminate any treatment role for remdesivir, hydroxychloroquine, lopinavir/ritonavir, interferon, convalescent plasma, tocilizumab, and mono-clonal antibody therapy, particularly in later phases (12-17). One year into the pandemic, the only therapy considered “proven” as an effective treatment in COVID-19 is the use of corticosteroids in patients with moderate to severe illness (18)."

"Despite this growing list of failed therapeutics in COVID-19, it now appears that Ivermectin, a widely used anti-parasitic medicine with known anti-viral and anti-inflammatory properties is proving a highly potent and multi-phase effective treatment against COVID-19."

"Although much of the trials data supporting this conclusion is available on medical pre-print servers or posted on clinicaltrials.gov, most have not yet undergone peer-review. Despite this limitation, the FLCCC expert panel, in their prolonged and continued commitment to reviewing the emerging medical evidence base, and considering the impact of the recent surge, has now reached a consensus in recommending that Ivermectin for both prophylaxis and treatment of COVID-19 should be systematically and globally adopted.”

“The FLCCC recommendation is based on the following set of conclusions derived from the existing data, which will be comprehensively reviewed below:

1. Since 2012, multiple in-vitro studies have demonstrated that Ivermectin inhibits the replication of many viruses, including influenza, Zika, Dengue and others (19-27).

2. Ivermectin inhibits SARS-CoV-2 replication, leading to absence of nearly all viral material by 48h in infected cell cultures (28).

3. Ivermectin has potent anti-inflammatory properties with in-vitro data demonstrating profound inhibition of both cytokine production and transcription of nuclear factor-κB (NF-κB), the most potent mediator of inflammation (29-31).

4. Ivermectin significantly diminishes viral load and protects against organ damage in multiple animal models when infected with SARS-CoV-2 or similar coronaviruses (32, 33).

5. Ivermectin prevents transmission and development of COVID-19 disease in those exposed to infected patients (34-36,54).

6. Ivermectin hastens recovery and prevents deterioration in patients with mild to moderate disease treated early after symptoms (37-42,54).

7. Ivermectin hastens recovery and avoidance of ICU admission and death in hospitalized patients (40,43,45,54,63,67).

8. Ivermectin reduces mortality in critically ill patients with COVID-19(43,45,54).

9. Ivermectin leads to striking reductions in case-fatality rates in regions with widespread use (46-48).

10. The safety, availability, and cost of ivermectin is nearly unparalleled given its near nil drug interactions along with only mild and rare side effects observed in almost 40 years of use and billions of doses administered (49). 11)

11. The World Health Organization has long included ivermectin on its “List of Essential Medicines” (50).

I am providing this link to the full paper discussed in this video.

[link to osf.io (secure)]

Click on “download preprint” to save and print a copy of this article.

I would also encourage you to save and print a copy of the Math+ protocol from Eastern Virginia Medical School and that link is provided below.

I would encourage you to print this paper and the Math + protocol and take it to your health care provider if you or a loved one has Covid or has been exposed to it, or is in health care and is constantly exposed.
If a health care provider refuses to honestly discuss this information with you, my advice is to find one that will. If your health care provider refuses to look at the science presented in this paper, he or she has a closed mind to everything except pharmaceutical and government propaganda.

Background for the Link to Eastern Virginia Medical School Math+ Covid 19 protocols:

“In March 2020, an expert panel called the Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance (FLCCC) was created and led by Professor Paul E. Marik. The group of expert critical care physicians and thought leaders immediately began continuously reviewing the rapidly emerging basic science, translational, and clinical data in COVID-19 which then led to the early creation of a treatment protocol for hospitalized patients called MATH+, based on the collective expertise of the group in both the research and treatment of multiple other severe infections causing lung injury.”

The most recent paper, currently in production, reports a 6.1% hospital mortality rate in COVID-19 patients measured in the two U.S hospitals that systematically adopted the MATH+ protocol, a markedly decreased mortality rate compared to the 23.9% hospital mortality rate calculated from a review of 39 studies including over 165,000 patients .”

“Despite the plethora of supportive evidence, the MATH+ protocol for hospitalized patients has not yet become widespread. Further, the world is in a worsening crisis with the potential of again overwhelming hospitals and ICU’s. As of November 10th, 2020, the number of deaths attributed to COVID-19 in the United States reached 245,799 with over 3.7 million active cases, the highest number to date. Multiple European countries have now begun to impose new rounds of restrictions and lockdowns.”

Math+ protocol for prophylaxis and early treatment:

1. Prophylaxis
Vitamin C 500 mg BID (twice daily) and Quercetin 250 mg daily
Vitamin D3 1000-4000 u/day
B complex vitamins
Zinc 30-50 mg/day
Melatonin (slow release): Begin with 0.3mg and increase as tolerated to 2 mg at night

Ivermectin for post exposure prophylaxis (200 ug/kg immediately, then repeat on day 3) and prophylaxis in high-risk groups (200 ug/kg day 1, then day 3 and then every 4 weeks)


2. Mildly Symptomatic patients (at home):

Ivermectin 150-200 ug/kg daily for two doses
Vitamin C 500mg BID and Quercetin 250-500 mg BID
Vitamin D3 2000 - 4000 u/day
B complex vitamins
Zinc 75-100 mg/day
Melatonin 6-10 mg at night (the optimal dose is unknown)
ASA aspirin 81-325 mg/day (unless contraindicated)
In symptomatic patients, monitoring with home pulse oximetry is recommended.
Ambulatory desaturation below 94% should prompt hospital admission

The full Math+ protocol link:

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Links to Eastern Virginia Medical School:

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As always, I am not providing medical advice. I am providing information and material for you to discuss with your health care provider as we all navigate this pandemic. I personally believe that corruption and greed have played a huge role in what we are experiencing today. If it were up to me, I would personally fire Anthony Fauci and the entire NIH board for what I believe to be collusion with Gilead Sciences (the manufacture of remdesivir) for profiting from human suffering by pushing an expensive and now proven to be ineffective drug (remdesivir) while ignoring worldwide evidence for more effective treatment options.

All of the above is my personal opinion and goes beyond the scope of my current discussion, I would encourage you to also do your own research and draw your own conclusions.


Good luck and much love to GLP.

We must continue to be brave and fight political corruption, fraudulent elections, and medicine that is often controlled by pharmaceutical company profits and other potentially nefarious interests.

This includes the risk of rushing into what I believe has, to date, been poorly tested vaccine options. This has only been allowed to be rushed into at this point because of a lack of any treatment options for Covid 19 that are considered to be effective. If ivermectin is recognized as an effective treatment, which many credible people believe it is, then there cannot be a rush (without more stringent safety testing) in the production of what I believe to be potentially dangerous and poorly tested vaccines to be possibly forced on populations, such as our military.

I also believe this is the bottom line and I believe that not only is there credible evidence for a well-coordinated effort to take away what little freedom we have left, but potentially also our long-term health.
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So I go on ebay in February or early March...and order some Ivermectin...the supplier ships it. Ebay intercepts it...issues me a refund and the transaction disappears from my order history. They knew it worked then.
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You can still buy it in farm stores and on Amazon.
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Not just GLPers. Everyone should know that the China virus can be cured quickly and inexpensively. I an telling everyone. Most of them just blow it off, but some take the information to heart. Some of them are already using Ivermectin prophylacticly to prevent infect after exposure.
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Yep. I’ve gotten some for all my family. I’ve also began taking the horse paste prophylactically. Doing what I can to spread it. I can tell from some of the pushback that there are bad faith actors online pushing against it. There are some specific ones on the chan cvg that really rail against it if it’s brought up, which it hardly is.
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