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SpaceX DECLARES INDEPENDENCE! "No Earth-based government has authority or sovereignty over Martian activities"

 
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So dumb until we find primate life... can’t go to another country to f kids why be allowed to go to mars we own you get back here
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Well done. Whomever gets to mars first and colonizes, owns it.
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The USA has craft roaming around it right now.

So....
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For Services provided to, on, or in orbit around the planet Earth or the Moon, these Terms and any disputes between us arising out of or related to these Terms, including disputes regarding arbitrability (“Disputes”) will be governed by and construed in accordance with the laws of the State of California in the United States. For Services provided on Mars, or in transit to Mars via Starship or other colonization spacecraft, the parties recognize Mars as a free planet and that no Earth-based government has authority or sovereignty over Martian activities. Accordingly, Disputes will be settled through self-governing principles, established in good faith, at the time of Martian settlement.
 Quoting: Reddit:/r/Starlink/comments/jjti2k/starlink_beta_terms_of_se​rvice/

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doesn't that basically mean that Mars is a neutral territory, like the international waters on planet Earth?

da fuq you're all talking about whoever gets there Mars is his pigchef
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“For services provided on Mars, or in transit to Mars via Starship or other colonisation spacecraft, the parties recognise Mars as a free planet and that no Earth-based government has authority or sovereignty over Martian activities,” the governing law section states.

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The relevant paragraph from Starlink's Terms of Service posted to Starlink Subreddit:
/r/Starlink/comments/jjti2k/starlink_beta_terms_of_service/

For Services provided to, on, or in orbit around the planet Earth or the Moon, these Terms and any disputes between us arising out of or related to these Terms, including disputes regarding arbitrability (“Disputes”) will be governed by and construed in accordance with the laws of the State of California in the United States. For Services provided on Mars, or in transit to Mars via Starship or other colonization spacecraft, the parties recognize Mars as a free planet and that no Earth-based government has authority or sovereignty over Martian activities. Accordingly, Disputes will be settled through self-governing principles, established in good faith, at the time of Martian settlement.
 Quoting: Reddit:/r/Starlink/comments/jjti2k/starlink_beta_terms_of_se​rvice/

 Quoting: PirateMonkey


So now we know where the kiddie didlers and worst are wanting to go, there government is being set up. NO RULES.
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Actually far from it. Mars will be ruled by a direct democracy that means the people get to vote on almost everything.
Thus if they send a normal spectrum of people to Mars if there is a kiddy fiddler then you will all get to vote what happens to them. Rather than say an earth based court.
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you're hallucinating Americans, the Universe is not yours, nor is Russians, Chinese
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bsflag WHAT A JOKE...FUCK NASA.
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Guess his grandchildren will be sacrificed.
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Well done. Whomever gets to mars first and colonizes, owns it.
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How do you know 100% that no one has ever been there or that is there right now?...?
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Whoever believes that is the type of person to believe COVID to be real.
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Anyone who thinks a "breakaway society" on Mars will be an awesome, free place to go, needs to read "The Expase" series. You can watch the TV series, too (it's very faithful), but you won't get a lot of the deep political stuff.
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Actually far from it. Mars will be ruled by a direct democracy that means the people get to vote on almost everything.
Thus if they send a normal spectrum of people to Mars if there is a kiddy fiddler then you will all get to vote what happens to them. Rather than say an earth based court.
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Agree.

With technology today, and moving ahead in the future, administering democracy will be an entire industry. Digital voting, producing promotional content to persuade voters...It'll be big business.
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ELON LIVES!!!
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Elon Musk

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READ: Don’t even try to stop Elon from building his cyborg clone army there!
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READ: Don’t even try to stop Elon from building his cyborg clone army there!
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We're making them better worlds.

All of them... better worlds.
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If you want to find out how this ends... I recommend: The Expanse series.

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Elon Musk

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Ali Mosque can talk all he wants.

There is not any proof that humans will get there alive.

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Musk, the new Martian Emperor.
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Well done. Whomever gets to mars first and colonizes, owns it.
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I think the deep state space program already has dibs on Mars. They've been there for a while now
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Uh, to get to Mars you need SIGNIFICANT AUTHORITY OF SOME GOVERNMENT.....FAIL....
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at which point does SpaceX renames itself UAC and opens a portal to hell?
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“For services provided on Mars, or in transit to Mars via Starship or other colonisation spacecraft, the parties recognise Mars as a free planet and that no Earth-based government has authority or sovereignty over Martian activities,” the governing law section states.

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The relevant paragraph from Starlink's Terms of Service posted to Starlink Subreddit:
/r/Starlink/comments/jjti2k/starlink_beta_terms_of_service/

For Services provided to, on, or in orbit around the planet Earth or the Moon, these Terms and any disputes between us arising out of or related to these Terms, including disputes regarding arbitrability (“Disputes”) will be governed by and construed in accordance with the laws of the State of California in the United States. For Services provided on Mars, or in transit to Mars via Starship or other colonization spacecraft, the parties recognize Mars as a free planet and that no Earth-based government has authority or sovereignty over Martian activities. Accordingly, Disputes will be settled through self-governing principles, established in good faith, at the time of Martian settlement.
 Quoting: Reddit:/r/Starlink/comments/jjti2k/starlink_beta_terms_of_se​rvice/

 Quoting: PirateMonkey





Elon Musk’s growing empire is fueled by $4.9 billion in government subsidies

[link to www.latimes.com (secure)]



Elon Musk blasts SpaceX competitor ULA as ‘a complete waste of taxpayer money’

SpaceX CEO Elon Musk took to Twitter on Thursday to criticize his company’s biggest U.S. rocket-building competitor United Launch Alliance.
“Because their rockets are not reusable, it will become obvious over time that ULA is a complete waste of taxpayer money,” Musk said.
Musk’s comment is the first made by SpaceX leadership after the U.S. Air Force on Friday awarded his company and ULA with billions worth of national security launch contracts.



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If they want to colonize Mars they better figure out how to vertically land their rockets first. Right now they're faking it and paying people like me to make fake footage and claim to witness it happening.
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Well done. Whomever gets to mars first and colonizes, owns it.
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Hopefully they have defensive missile capabilities.
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If they want to colonize Mars they better figure out how to vertically land their rockets first. Right now they're faking it and paying people like me to make fake footage and claim to witness it happening.
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Fake it 'till you make it!

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You should’ve read the fine print my friend!






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