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SpaceX DECLARES INDEPENDENCE! "No Earth-based government has authority or sovereignty over Martian activities"

 
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SpaceX DECLARES INDEPENDENCE! "No Earth-based government has authority or sovereignty over Martian activities"
“For services provided on Mars, or in transit to Mars via Starship or other colonisation spacecraft, the parties recognise Mars as a free planet and that no Earth-based government has authority or sovereignty over Martian activities,” the governing law section states.

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The relevant paragraph from Starlink's Terms of Service posted to Starlink Subreddit:
/r/Starlink/comments/jjti2k/starlink_beta_terms_of_service/

For Services provided to, on, or in orbit around the planet Earth or the Moon, these Terms and any disputes between us arising out of or related to these Terms, including disputes regarding arbitrability (“Disputes”) will be governed by and construed in accordance with the laws of the State of California in the United States. For Services provided on Mars, or in transit to Mars via Starship or other colonization spacecraft, the parties recognize Mars as a free planet and that no Earth-based government has authority or sovereignty over Martian activities. Accordingly, Disputes will be settled through self-governing principles, established in good faith, at the time of Martian settlement.
 Quoting: Reddit:/r/Starlink/comments/jjti2k/starlink_beta_terms_of_se​rvice/


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Well done. Whomever gets to mars first and colonizes, owns it.
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They are not even there yet, so, kind of premature.
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They are not even there yet, so, kind of premature.
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But, this announcement officially starts the race..
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They are not even there yet, so, kind of premature.
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But, this announcement officially starts the race..
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Yes, can be interpreted like that, you right.
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bsflag WHAT A JOKE...FUCK NASA.
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Musk possy/NASA et al, they are going for a break-away civilization since they know the gig is up. They have been milking tax dollars for decades. Now they intend to run away with it.
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Juan Star strikes again!

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“For services provided on Mars, or in transit to Mars via Starship or other colonisation spacecraft, the parties recognise Mars as a free planet and that no Earth-based government has authority or sovereignty over Martian activities,” the governing law section states.

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The relevant paragraph from Starlink's Terms of Service posted to Starlink Subreddit:
/r/Starlink/comments/jjti2k/starlink_beta_terms_of_service/

For Services provided to, on, or in orbit around the planet Earth or the Moon, these Terms and any disputes between us arising out of or related to these Terms, including disputes regarding arbitrability (“Disputes”) will be governed by and construed in accordance with the laws of the State of California in the United States. For Services provided on Mars, or in transit to Mars via Starship or other colonization spacecraft, the parties recognize Mars as a free planet and that no Earth-based government has authority or sovereignty over Martian activities. Accordingly, Disputes will be settled through self-governing principles, established in good faith, at the time of Martian settlement.
 Quoting: Reddit:/r/Starlink/comments/jjti2k/starlink_beta_terms_of_se​rvice/

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call the space force

no slavery in the Solar System now

STOP THIS BEFORE IT BEGINS

Demand it now
scream
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Hmmmmm......Interesting
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“For services provided on Mars, or in transit to Mars via Starship or other colonisation spacecraft, the parties recognise Mars as a free planet and that no Earth-based government has authority or sovereignty over Martian activities,” the governing law section states.

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The relevant paragraph from Starlink's Terms of Service posted to Starlink Subreddit:
/r/Starlink/comments/jjti2k/starlink_beta_terms_of_service/

For Services provided to, on, or in orbit around the planet Earth or the Moon, these Terms and any disputes between us arising out of or related to these Terms, including disputes regarding arbitrability (“Disputes”) will be governed by and construed in accordance with the laws of the State of California in the United States. For Services provided on Mars, or in transit to Mars via Starship or other colonization spacecraft, the parties recognize Mars as a free planet and that no Earth-based government has authority or sovereignty over Martian activities. Accordingly, Disputes will be settled through self-governing principles, established in good faith, at the time of Martian settlement.
 Quoting: Reddit:/r/Starlink/comments/jjti2k/starlink_beta_terms_of_se​rvice/

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Sounds like a recipe for disaster, I call bullshit Spacex sucks off the governments tit in the form of contracts, they launch from US platforms, they can suck a tailpipe
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“For services provided on Mars, or in transit to Mars via Starship or other colonisation spacecraft, the parties recognise Mars as a free planet and that no Earth-based government has authority or sovereignty over Martian activities,” the governing law section states.

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The relevant paragraph from Starlink's Terms of Service posted to Starlink Subreddit:
/r/Starlink/comments/jjti2k/starlink_beta_terms_of_service/

For Services provided to, on, or in orbit around the planet Earth or the Moon, these Terms and any disputes between us arising out of or related to these Terms, including disputes regarding arbitrability (“Disputes”) will be governed by and construed in accordance with the laws of the State of California in the United States. For Services provided on Mars, or in transit to Mars via Starship or other colonization spacecraft, the parties recognize Mars as a free planet and that no Earth-based government has authority or sovereignty over Martian activities. Accordingly, Disputes will be settled through self-governing principles, established in good faith, at the time of Martian settlement.
 Quoting: Reddit:/r/Starlink/comments/jjti2k/starlink_beta_terms_of_se​rvice/

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Holy Shit!! Dr. Joesph P Farrell was literally just warning about fascism/despotism on off-world colonies due to Earth bound 'rights' not applying and literally 24 hrs later this....
"She isn't real.....I can't make her real"

"Somewhere between the sacred silence and sleep...Disorder, Disorder, Disorder"

"The World is a business Mr Beale..."

"You depend on our protection yet you feed us lies from the tablecloth......"

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I'm recruiting a Martian Attack Force.
After Mars is colonized, we plan on an
all out attack.

The settlers can work FOR us as slaves,
or die. THAT'S IT!

Since there are no trees there to hang them
from, we will cast them from the highest
cliffs we can find, which because of Mars'
low gravity, will have to be higher than
here on Terra.

You will get three hots and a cot,
but we will allow ample time to see the sights.

Escape will be futile, so don't even
THINK about it.


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I bet they still get government tax payer funding
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“For services provided on Mars, or in transit to Mars via Starship or other colonisation spacecraft, the parties recognise Mars as a free planet and that no Earth-based government has authority or sovereignty over Martian activities,” the governing law section states.

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The relevant paragraph from Starlink's Terms of Service posted to Starlink Subreddit:
/r/Starlink/comments/jjti2k/starlink_beta_terms_of_service/

For Services provided to, on, or in orbit around the planet Earth or the Moon, these Terms and any disputes between us arising out of or related to these Terms, including disputes regarding arbitrability (“Disputes”) will be governed by and construed in accordance with the laws of the State of California in the United States. For Services provided on Mars, or in transit to Mars via Starship or other colonization spacecraft, the parties recognize Mars as a free planet and that no Earth-based government has authority or sovereignty over Martian activities. Accordingly, Disputes will be settled through self-governing principles, established in good faith, at the time of Martian settlement.
 Quoting: Reddit:/r/Starlink/comments/jjti2k/starlink_beta_terms_of_se​rvice/

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So now we know where the kiddie didlers and worst are wanting to go, there government is being set up. NO RULES.
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We’re not going to Mars. The earth is flat, people!
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Fuck you earth!
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“For services provided on Mars, or in transit to Mars via Starship or other colonisation spacecraft, the parties recognise Mars as a free planet and that no Earth-based government has authority or sovereignty over Martian activities,” the governing law section states.

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The relevant paragraph from Starlink's Terms of Service posted to Starlink Subreddit:
/r/Starlink/comments/jjti2k/starlink_beta_terms_of_service/

For Services provided to, on, or in orbit around the planet Earth or the Moon, these Terms and any disputes between us arising out of or related to these Terms, including disputes regarding arbitrability (“Disputes”) will be governed by and construed in accordance with the laws of the State of California in the United States. For Services provided on Mars, or in transit to Mars via Starship or other colonization spacecraft, the parties recognize Mars as a free planet and that no Earth-based government has authority or sovereignty over Martian activities. Accordingly, Disputes will be settled through self-governing principles, established in good faith, at the time of Martian settlement.
 Quoting: Reddit:/r/Starlink/comments/jjti2k/starlink_beta_terms_of_se​rvice/

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This is the like the origin story of the tv Series The Expanse.
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“For services provided on Mars, or in transit to Mars via Starship or other colonisation spacecraft, the parties recognise Mars as a free planet and that no Earth-based government has authority or sovereignty over Martian activities,” the governing law section states.

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The relevant paragraph from Starlink's Terms of Service posted to Starlink Subreddit:
/r/Starlink/comments/jjti2k/starlink_beta_terms_of_service/

For Services provided to, on, or in orbit around the planet Earth or the Moon, these Terms and any disputes between us arising out of or related to these Terms, including disputes regarding arbitrability (“Disputes”) will be governed by and construed in accordance with the laws of the State of California in the United States. For Services provided on Mars, or in transit to Mars via Starship or other colonization spacecraft, the parties recognize Mars as a free planet and that no Earth-based government has authority or sovereignty over Martian activities. Accordingly, Disputes will be settled through self-governing principles, established in good faith, at the time of Martian settlement.
 Quoting: Reddit:/r/Starlink/comments/jjti2k/starlink_beta_terms_of_se​rvice/

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this fellow is stupid... Mars is "owned" by its residents and it has residents.. some from Earth carried there and peoples from other worlds and from HEAVEN.
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“For services provided on Mars, or in transit to Mars via Starship or other colonisation spacecraft, the parties recognise Mars as a free planet and that no Earth-based government has authority or sovereignty over Martian activities,” the governing law section states.

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The relevant paragraph from Starlink's Terms of Service posted to Starlink Subreddit:
/r/Starlink/comments/jjti2k/starlink_beta_terms_of_service/

For Services provided to, on, or in orbit around the planet Earth or the Moon, these Terms and any disputes between us arising out of or related to these Terms, including disputes regarding arbitrability (“Disputes”) will be governed by and construed in accordance with the laws of the State of California in the United States. For Services provided on Mars, or in transit to Mars via Starship or other colonization spacecraft, the parties recognize Mars as a free planet and that no Earth-based government has authority or sovereignty over Martian activities. Accordingly, Disputes will be settled through self-governing principles, established in good faith, at the time of Martian settlement.
 Quoting: Reddit:/r/Starlink/comments/jjti2k/starlink_beta_terms_of_se​rvice/

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So now we know where the kiddie didlers and worst are wanting to go, there government is being set up. NO RULES.
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Actually far from it. Mars will be ruled by a direct democracy that means the people get to vote on almost everything.
Thus if they send a normal spectrum of people to Mars if there is a kiddy fiddler then you will all get to vote what happens to them. Rather than say an earth based court.
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Desperate to find a location to sacrifice their children to Moloch.
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YOU WILL PAY TAXES ON “tea” that we ship to you!

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It’s for the children!

Or we will send the RED UNIFORMED SPACEFORCE !

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Science fiction of the 1940s, 1950s, and 1960s sometimes depicted satellites and space stations as lawless dens of vice, much like offshore gambling ships or desperado towns in the wild west.
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Good try until the US Govt denies them airspace to launch and land not to say the technology they are using in conjunction with NASA.

Their independence would last a nano-second.
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Good try until the US Govt denies them airspace to launch and land not to say the technology they are using in conjunction with NASA.

Their independence would last a nano-second.
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Maybe that's why they have sea-based landing platforms.

Musk probably has some private island getting all set up for the launches.

BUT...

We already know that trillion-dollar black budgets have been funding the breakaway civilization for decades.
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pathetic apes, always claim something like their own.... when can it be that you apes dont claim something, its always possesion this and that, the having... grow up.

Well done. Whomever gets to mars first and colonizes, owns it.
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bah democracy lol just like Biden and his minions? hahahaha no thanks/

“For services provided on Mars, or in transit to Mars via Starship or other colonisation spacecraft, the parties recognise Mars as a free planet and that no Earth-based government has authority or sovereignty over Martian activities,” the governing law section states.

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The relevant paragraph from Starlink's Terms of Service posted to Starlink Subreddit:
/r/Starlink/comments/jjti2k/starlink_beta_terms_of_service/

For Services provided to, on, or in orbit around the planet Earth or the Moon, these Terms and any disputes between us arising out of or related to these Terms, including disputes regarding arbitrability (“Disputes”) will be governed by and construed in accordance with the laws of the State of California in the United States. For Services provided on Mars, or in transit to Mars via Starship or other colonization spacecraft, the parties recognize Mars as a free planet and that no Earth-based government has authority or sovereignty over Martian activities. Accordingly, Disputes will be settled through self-governing principles, established in good faith, at the time of Martian settlement.
 Quoting: Reddit:/r/Starlink/comments/jjti2k/starlink_beta_terms_of_se​rvice/

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So now we know where the kiddie didlers and worst are wanting to go, there government is being set up. NO RULES.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79274923

Actually far from it. Mars will be ruled by a direct democracy that means the people get to vote on almost everything.
Thus if they send a normal spectrum of people to Mars if there is a kiddy fiddler then you will all get to vote what happens to them. Rather than say an earth based court.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79469693
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bah democracy lol just like Biden and his minions? hahahaha no thanks/

“For services provided on Mars, or in transit to Mars via Starship or other colonisation spacecraft, the parties recognise Mars as a free planet and that no Earth-based government has authority or sovereignty over Martian activities,” the governing law section states.

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The relevant paragraph from Starlink's Terms of Service posted to Starlink Subreddit:
/r/Starlink/comments/jjti2k/starlink_beta_terms_of_service/

For Services provided to, on, or in orbit around the planet Earth or the Moon, these Terms and any disputes between us arising out of or related to these Terms, including disputes regarding arbitrability (“Disputes”) will be governed by and construed in accordance with the laws of the State of California in the United States. For Services provided on Mars, or in transit to Mars via Starship or other colonization spacecraft, the parties recognize Mars as a free planet and that no Earth-based government has authority or sovereignty over Martian activities. Accordingly, Disputes will be settled through self-governing principles, established in good faith, at the time of Martian settlement.
 Quoting: Reddit:/r/Starlink/comments/jjti2k/starlink_beta_terms_of_se​rvice/

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So now we know where the kiddie didlers and worst are wanting to go, there government is being set up. NO RULES.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79274923

Actually far from it. Mars will be ruled by a direct democracy that means the people get to vote on almost everything.
Thus if they send a normal spectrum of people to Mars if there is a kiddy fiddler then you will all get to vote what happens to them. Rather than say an earth based court.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79469693
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/r/Starlink/comments/jjti2k/starlink_beta_terms_of_service/

For Services provided to, on, or in orbit around the planet Earth or the Moon, these Terms and any disputes between us arising out of or related to these Terms, including disputes regarding arbitrability (“Disputes”) will be governed by and construed in accordance with the laws of the State of California in the United States. For Services provided on Mars, or in transit to Mars via Starship or other colonization spacecraft, the parties recognize Mars as a free planet and that no Earth-based government has authority or sovereignty over Martian activities. Accordingly, Disputes will be settled through self-governing principles, established in good faith, at the time of Martian settlement.
 Quoting: Reddit:/r/Starlink/comments/jjti2k/starlink_beta_terms_of_se​rvice/

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So now we know where the kiddie didlers and worst are wanting to go, there government is being set up. NO RULES.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79274923

Actually far from it. Mars will be ruled by a direct democracy that means the people get to vote on almost everything.
Thus if they send a normal spectrum of people to Mars if there is a kiddy fiddler then you will all get to vote what happens to them. Rather than say an earth based court.
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Sure!
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Good try until the US Govt denies them airspace to launch and land not to say the technology they are using in conjunction with NASA.

Their independence would last a nano-second.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79562133


Maybe that's why they have sea-based landing platforms.

Musk probably has some private island getting all set up for the launches.

BUT...

We already know that trillion-dollar black budgets have been funding the breakaway civilization for decades.
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and then they will deny them launch permits and export licences to take anything to their private island or any other place on earth.

Yes it sounds so easy until you have to relocate factories and buy classified and restricted materials to run the program. Do you seriously think they would even be allowed to buy the fuel for launch?
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Silly SpaceX power is for politicians!





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