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Jungleboogie
(OP) User ID: 76648271 Canada 10/10/2020 08:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The burning of the altar seems like a good idea, but after condsidering the factors I think it is very wrong. EXTREMELY WRONG. PARANORMAL PERSPECTIVE If it was a satanic ritual being performed, then a portal can be opened. If a portal is opened through an object and the object is burned then the portal can be damn near impossible to close. Much like burning a ouija board, BAD IDEA. RELIGIOUS PERSPECTIVE From a religious perspective I think it is better to purify and cleanse than destroy. PSYCHIC PERSPECTIVE I just generally have a very bad feeling about this. Enough of a bad feeling to create a thread, which I rarely do. It's a sinking feeling in my gut, hard to describe it exactly. Happened enough times in my life that I know exactly what it is and what it portends. COMMON SENSE PERSPECTIVE Those two women pictured look satanic as hell. Embrace the cognitive dissonance. |
VegasRick
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TXGLP2
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Jungleboogie
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 2681003 United States 10/10/2020 09:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's been order of operation to burn desecrated objects since ancient times. That's why Jeremiah was ordered to remove the ark of the covenant from the Temple before the siege of Nebuchadnezzar. It was the one object that could not be desecrated. It was hidden away and never found again. |
Jungleboogie
(OP) User ID: 76648271 Canada 10/10/2020 09:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Chop it to pieces, consecrate it to the bottom of a body of water, with prayers. Quoting: TXGLP2 Better yet, sawdust it and spread it like ashes over water. Or they could lock it away, kind of like Ed & Lorraine Warren used to do with cursed and diabolical artefacts. Embrace the cognitive dissonance. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 2681003 United States 10/10/2020 09:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When Judah Macabees restored the Temple Altar of Jerusalem after it had been profaned by Temple fornication and the sacrifice of swine to Jupiter, the old articles were taken away and burned and a new altar constructed. That is all you do because the both the object and memory must be destroyed by fire. In any sane society, all three of these Satanists would be taken immediately and burnt at the stake. |
Jungleboogie
(OP) User ID: 76648271 Canada 10/10/2020 09:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's been order of operation to burn desecrated objects since ancient times. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2681003 That's why Jeremiah was ordered to remove the ark of the covenant from the Temple before the siege of Nebuchadnezzar. It was the one object that could not be desecrated. It was hidden away and never found again. I think the entire ark of the covenant was metal plating, with just a wood box interior so it couldn't really be burned anyway except for the interior wood casing. Religious groups tend to preserve their ancient symbols not destroy them. For example the wailing wall in Jerusalem. It's normally opposing groups that burn and destroy religious altars and artefacts. Embrace the cognitive dissonance. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2681003 United States 10/10/2020 09:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's been order of operation to burn desecrated objects since ancient times. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2681003 That's why Jeremiah was ordered to remove the ark of the covenant from the Temple before the siege of Nebuchadnezzar. It was the one object that could not be desecrated. It was hidden away and never found again. I think the entire ark of the covenant was metal plating, with just a wood box interior so it couldn't really be burned anyway except for the interior wood casing. Religious groups tend to preserve their ancient symbols not destroy them. For example the wailing wall in Jerusalem. It's normally opposing groups that burn and destroy religious altars and artefacts. To profane an altar is the same as to destroy it. It becomes a horcrux and a curse. There is no ifs about it. You burn it to ashes and construct a new one. Period. End of story. |
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Jungleboogie
(OP) User ID: 76648271 Canada 10/10/2020 09:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When Judah Macabees restored the Temple Altar of Jerusalem after it had been profaned by Temple fornication and the sacrifice of swine to Jupiter, the old articles were taken away and burned and a new altar constructed. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2681003 That is all you do because the both the object and memory must be destroyed by fire. But only 8 generations later all of Jerusalem was utterly destroyed. Embrace the cognitive dissonance. |
Jungleboogie
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 2681003 United States 10/10/2020 09:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When Judah Macabees restored the Temple Altar of Jerusalem after it had been profaned by Temple fornication and the sacrifice of swine to Jupiter, the old articles were taken away and burned and a new altar constructed. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2681003 That is all you do because the both the object and memory must be destroyed by fire. But only 8 generations later all of Jerusalem was utterly destroyed. That's completely irrelevant to the topic of this thread. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 2681003 United States 10/10/2020 09:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That is all you do because the both the object and memory must be destroyed by fire. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2681003 So you are saying by burning the object it essentially erases the desecration? Interesting. I don't disagree, merely seeking clarification. Yes, it does. And it's the only thing that can for multiple reasons. It has to be dissolved by fire and reduced to nothing. You do not keep profaned objects. You burn them. |
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Jungleboogie
(OP) User ID: 76648271 Canada 10/10/2020 09:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When Judah Macabees restored the Temple Altar of Jerusalem after it had been profaned by Temple fornication and the sacrifice of swine to Jupiter, the old articles were taken away and burned and a new altar constructed. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2681003 That is all you do because the both the object and memory must be destroyed by fire. But only 8 generations later all of Jerusalem was utterly destroyed. That's completely irrelevant to the topic of this thread. Most likely, I wouldn't claim that the two are connected except that they could be. Needless to say I appreciate your input, your statement that the object and memory must be destroyed is utterly fascinating to me. Were you taught or read that, or did you discern it? Embrace the cognitive dissonance. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2681003 United States 10/10/2020 09:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When Judah Macabees restored the Temple Altar of Jerusalem after it had been profaned by Temple fornication and the sacrifice of swine to Jupiter, the old articles were taken away and burned and a new altar constructed. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2681003 That is all you do because the both the object and memory must be destroyed by fire. But only 8 generations later all of Jerusalem was utterly destroyed. That's completely irrelevant to the topic of this thread. Most likely, I wouldn't claim that the two are connected except that they could be. Needless to say I appreciate your input, your statement that the object and memory must be destroyed is utterly fascinating to me. Were you taught or read that, or did you discern it? I spent 8 years in theology school. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 2681003 United States 10/10/2020 09:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Solution? The churches need to go underground and be occult societies working in house church networks like they were in the first three centuries after Christ. It's time to assume a more militant posture again as Satan has been loosed for the last time during this Little Season. |
Jungleboogie
(OP) User ID: 76648271 Canada 10/10/2020 09:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Im not sure the relationship between Catholics and fire but it is an ultimate death for them, being burned??? Quoting: Shawski They always bury their dead. Cremation became accepted by Catholicism in 1963, interesting because that was the same year President Kennedy was murdered, who was himself a Catholic. Apparently Catholics believe the body will eventually be resurrected and should kept whole, but they have relaxed the rules somewhat. Personally I think that is dark ages mysticism that made its way into the teachings. Most of the famous martyrs had their bodies burned or destroyed in one fashion or another, such as the living Christian people burned like torches at Nero's behest. Embrace the cognitive dissonance. |
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Lady Jayne Smith
Forum Administrator 10/10/2020 09:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My read on the situation: Yes, this was a dark ritual the women instigated with the priest. I am not certain how aware he was of what was happening, or if he remembers much. He was possessed at the time, for the purpose of the ritual. Why was he so easily possessed? he does not, nor did he ever, want to be a priest. he was pressured by family into the priesthood. He has more than once violated his vows, making it even easier for him to be entered by the dark entity. Fate whispers to the warrior "You cannot withstand the storm" the warrior whispers back "I am the storm" INTJ-A |
Jungleboogie
(OP) User ID: 76648271 Canada 10/10/2020 10:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you do not burn the desecrated object, the memory will not burn. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2681003 And both object and memory must burn and be cast into the abyss. Why do you think it is that Ed & Lorraine Warren, who mostly did church-sanctioned work (albeit through back channels) would not destroy any of the cursed and desecrated artefacts recovered during their work? I know that most of their contacts did not support the Vatican II reformation. Embrace the cognitive dissonance. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2681003 United States 10/10/2020 10:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you do not burn the desecrated object, the memory will not burn. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2681003 And both object and memory must burn and be cast into the abyss. Why do you think it is that Ed & Lorraine Warren, who mostly did church-sanctioned work (albeit through back channels) would not destroy any of the cursed and desecrated artefacts recovered during their work? I know that most of their contacts did not support the Vatican II reformation. I do not know why they did what they did, nor do I care. If an object is profaned by a malicious act of this nature, you burn it to ashes. Period. |
Jungleboogie
(OP) User ID: 76648271 Canada 10/10/2020 10:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The altar should not have been burned. That could have released something very bad. I would have suggested having it ground up and buried after doing a ritual of binding. Quoting: Lady Jayne Smith My read on the situation: Yes, this was a dark ritual the women instigated with the priest. I am not certain how aware he was of what was happening, or if he remembers much. He was possessed at the time, for the purpose of the ritual. Why was he so easily possessed? he does not, nor did he ever, want to be a priest. he was pressured by family into the priesthood. He has more than once violated his vows, making it even easier for him to be entered by the dark entity. We are of like mind. Well spoken! Embrace the cognitive dissonance. |
Jungleboogie
(OP) User ID: 76648271 Canada 10/10/2020 10:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you do not burn the desecrated object, the memory will not burn. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2681003 And both object and memory must burn and be cast into the abyss. Why do you think it is that Ed & Lorraine Warren, who mostly did church-sanctioned work (albeit through back channels) would not destroy any of the cursed and desecrated artefacts recovered during their work? I know that most of their contacts did not support the Vatican II reformation. I do not know why they did what they did, nor do I care. If an object is profaned by a malicious act of this nature, you burn it to ashes. Period. From the theological perspective your argument is convincing. Embrace the cognitive dissonance. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2681003 United States 10/10/2020 10:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To defile an altar in this nature is the attempt to rob the altar and invert its meaning. Therefore, it by extension becomes a symbol of Satan's altar. You do not bury it. You do not hide it. You burn it as a symbol of the righteous judgment of God in fire. And that is all you do with it. If it is of a material that cannot be burnt, you banish it to an unclean place and bury it. But if is can be burnt, burn it. |