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I disagree with 'you won't need to ask'.

Problem is, you cannot quantify it. It comes in degrees, that blooms into different stages of how you respond to or experience your inner life. When that begins, it feels like the entire world is changing with you because it's inside you, the changes. It IS you.
So, things stop making sense like they use to. Doesn't mean you are awakened, it means that a process has begun that will change you, yet there is no map to define your future anymore. YOUR future..
Meaning; how you will respond to life experiences. The choices you once found fundamental, are not unconsciously guiding you anymore. Suddenly you become aware that you've always had infinite choices and decisions, not just those few, limited fundamental ones you lived your past with.

As you grow more adept, you can follow the choices and decisions into your future, see where they will lead you. How? By knowing the way people fundamentally live and make their choices, their decisions about life. You can easily see them, because they are not residing in the depths of your subconscious anymore. They breath at the conscious level of thought.

This changing brings the subconscious repositories closer to the surface of your everyday conscious living.

That results in something amazing when you find yourself living in the subconscious and eventually supra- conscious realms; ie, dreams and meditation. When you become able to make these changes in those realms, your SOUL changes.
...ah, what the hell
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YOU STILL SWINGING ON SPIRALS ?
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Nice to see you again, SS.

In your previous incarnation, you were always one of the posters whose threads I would look for and follow. You always posted mind-bending content that I enjoyed.

I wish you would return here more often.

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“Mental slavery is the worst form of slavery.
It gives you the illusion of freedom,
makes you trust, love, and defend your oppressor,
while making an enemy of those
who are trying to free you or open your eyes.”
-Fiyah

“None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.”
-Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

“You have been programmed to resist the very person that is here to set you free, from the prison of your Mind... You are not free... everything you are has been manufactured by Minds that have not your best interest. You are imprisoned by beliefs and not reality. Religions are mental programs to imprison your Mind.”

-SOL
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Lovely.

I just became aware of the supraconscious last night. Or at least aware that I was aware. I was CRAZY dipolar before - from childhood to adulthood, I lived from both the deepest depths of the subconscious to the highest of the supra. That was 40 years of the most excruciating existential crises ever. Still blocked a little in the slide through the perspectives. I miss the clear signal from the supra.
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YOU STILL SWINGING ON SPIRALS ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28408601


Yes and no.
I have no choice after I started. I was beaten beyond measure. Hence my disappearance and retreat.

In every direction I chose to look into, I only saw defeat. For a time, I lost EVERYTHING. A single moment started it. In every direction the light grew dimmer if deciding to trod any paths away from me.

I isolated, and was torn apart in every way. When I found any type of solace or succor, I clung to it like a needy beggar, like a junkie... when nothing worked to change my condition, I began destroying everything around me. Pain, meet PAIN.
...ah, what the hell
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YOU STILL SWINGING ON SPIRALS ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28408601


Yes and no.
I have no choice after I started. I was beaten beyond measure. Hence my disappearance and retreat.

In every direction I chose to look into, I only saw defeat. For a time, I lost EVERYTHING. A single moment started it. In every direction the light grew dimmer if deciding to trod any paths away from me.

I isolated, and was torn apart in every way. When I found any type of solace or succor, I clung to it like a needy beggar, like a junkie... when nothing worked to change my condition, I began destroying everything around me. Pain, meet PAIN.
 Quoting: Sicksent


Fucking A. Sounds exactly like what I went through.

Did you ever watch the dismantling of your old self/conceptual body of substance (I dont know how else to describe it). That went on for over a week for me. It was brutal.
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Lovely.

I just became aware of the supraconscious last night. Or at least aware that I was aware. I was CRAZY dipolar before - from childhood to adulthood, I lived from both the deepest depths of the subconscious to the highest of the supra. That was 40 years of the most excruciating existential crises ever. Still blocked a little in the slide through the perspectives. I miss the clear signal from the supra.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73043282


As does everything, it all comes and goes in waves. We'll have our peaks, and our troughs, as existence will define through us.
...ah, what the hell
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Welcome back

Are you feeling better now?
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Nice to see you again, SS.

In your previous incarnation, you were always one of the posters whose threads I would look for and follow. You always posted mind-bending content that I enjoyed.

I wish you would return here more often.

.
 Quoting: Zovalex


My last 4 years or so have not been a time of fun or joy. In every meaning of the words, I was broken until not a single thing left of my life was NOT broken.

I enjoyed immensely the era of Swinging on Spirals. I still wish to share so much. The great work does not deserve to be silent/silenced.
...ah, what the hell
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Welcome back

Are you feeling better now?
 Quoting: I_am_who_I_am


Hahaha!
Oh, so much better
...ah, what the hell
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Nice to see you again, SS.

In your previous incarnation, you were always one of the posters whose threads I would look for and follow. You always posted mind-bending content that I enjoyed.

I wish you would return here more often.

.
 Quoting: Zovalex


My last 4 years or so have not been a time of fun or joy. In every meaning of the words, I was broken until not a single thing left of my life was NOT broken.

I enjoyed immensely the era of Swinging on Spirals. I still wish to share so much. The great work does not deserve to be silent/silenced.
 Quoting: Sicksent


It’s my honor to upgrade your membership, friend.

Your knowledge can benefit so very many here, and you will find tremendous support from the GLP community.

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“Mental slavery is the worst form of slavery.
It gives you the illusion of freedom,
makes you trust, love, and defend your oppressor,
while making an enemy of those
who are trying to free you or open your eyes.”
-Fiyah

“None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.”
-Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

“You have been programmed to resist the very person that is here to set you free, from the prison of your Mind... You are not free... everything you are has been manufactured by Minds that have not your best interest. You are imprisoned by beliefs and not reality. Religions are mental programs to imprison your Mind.”

-SOL
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i'll take a wait and see attitude, chad!
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Welcome back....the Time is right. hf
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Welcome back

Are you feeling better now?
 Quoting: I_am_who_I_am


Hahaha!
Oh, so much better
 Quoting: Sicksent


If you descend to the very bottom you can use that as a springboard to shoot up faster to the very top.

The things that don't kill us really do make us stronger if we can grow from them.

I'm sorry about the pain that you have been through the last few years but I hope that you utilize it all for tremendous strength.

Hugyou
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I disagree with 'you won't need to ask'.


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so what questions will be needed to be asked? lets define some parameters.
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YOU STILL SWINGING ON SPIRALS ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28408601


Yes and no.
I have no choice after I started. I was beaten beyond measure. Hence my disappearance and retreat.

In every direction I chose to look into, I only saw defeat. For a time, I lost EVERYTHING. A single moment started it. In every direction the light grew dimmer if deciding to trod any paths away from me.

I isolated, and was torn apart in every way. When I found any type of solace or succor, I clung to it like a needy beggar, like a junkie... when nothing worked to change my condition, I began destroying everything around me. Pain, meet PAIN.
 Quoting: Sicksent


Fucking A. Sounds exactly like what I went through.

Did you ever watch the dismantling of your old self/conceptual body of substance (I dont know how else to describe it). That went on for over a week for me. It was brutal.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73043282


I think we all go through a different "desemblence" of our self. I think that it becomes a crescendo of inner turmoil, that for the fact we are eternal, would rend us asunder into meaningless fading echoes of what our lives have tried to attain. But for the idea we are eternal, the meaningless becomes known to be a false construction imposed upon us from our external experiences. Being rent asunder, yet finding ourselves still able to attain sovereignty if only having the willpower and fortitude to carry on, well...we find meaning and grace being fat greater than any pain we are meant to endure.

We have MEANING. And it is greater than we can imagine. We can't grasp that. But we WILL experience it.
...ah, what the hell
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i'll take a wait and see attitude, chad!
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Hey cuz,lol.
...ah, what the hell
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YOU STILL SWINGING ON SPIRALS ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28408601


Yes and no.
I have no choice after I started. I was beaten beyond measure. Hence my disappearance and retreat.

In every direction I chose to look into, I only saw defeat. For a time, I lost EVERYTHING. A single moment started it. In every direction the light grew dimmer if deciding to trod any paths away from me.

I isolated, and was torn apart in every way. When I found any type of solace or succor, I clung to it like a needy beggar, like a junkie... when nothing worked to change my condition, I began destroying everything around me. Pain, meet PAIN.
 Quoting: Sicksent


Some shamanic initiation processes can be as brutal during as they are breathtakingly life affirming after.

The most liberating lessons we could ever hope for are often those we barely manage to survive.

Congratulations, man.

cheers
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YOU STILL SWINGING ON SPIRALS ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28408601


Yes and no.
I have no choice after I started. I was beaten beyond measure. Hence my disappearance and retreat.

In every direction I chose to look into, I only saw defeat. For a time, I lost EVERYTHING. A single moment started it. In every direction the light grew dimmer if deciding to trod any paths away from me.

I isolated, and was torn apart in every way. When I found any type of solace or succor, I clung to it like a needy beggar, like a junkie... when nothing worked to change my condition, I began destroying everything around me. Pain, meet PAIN.
 Quoting: Sicksent


Fucking A. Sounds exactly like what I went through.

Did you ever watch the dismantling of your old self/conceptual body of substance (I dont know how else to describe it). That went on for over a week for me. It was brutal.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73043282


I think we all go through a different "desemblence" of our self. I think that it becomes a crescendo of inner turmoil, that for the fact we are eternal, would rend us asunder into meaningless fading echoes of what our lives have tried to attain. But for the idea we are eternal, the meaningless becomes known to be a false construction imposed upon us from our external experiences. Being rent asunder, yet finding ourselves still able to attain sovereignty if only having the willpower and fortitude to carry on, well...we find meaning and grace being fat greater than any pain we are meant to endure.

We have MEANING. And it is greater than we can imagine. We can't grasp that. But we WILL experience it.
 Quoting: Sicksent


what is the spectrum for our lives to have meaning, are we are jumping straight into the philosophical?
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i'll take a wait and see attitude, chad!
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Hey cuz,lol.
 Quoting: Sicksent


hey, all wallets on the table, don't anybody do anything stupid!

did the nine checksum produce any patterns that opened mental doors, conscious or unconscious via reasonings?
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i'll take a wait and see attitude, chad!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76932923


Hey cuz,lol.
 Quoting: Sicksent


hey, all wallets on the table, don't anybody do anything stupid!

did the nine checksum produce any patterns that opened mental doors, conscious or unconscious via reasonings?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76932923


the nine pattern as far as i could determine produced a closed deterministic universe. then quantum became popular!
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chad, don't allow interference in you responses comport yourself to the thought!
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i'll take a wait and see attitude, chad!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76932923


Hey cuz,lol.
 Quoting: Sicksent


hey, all wallets on the table, don't anybody do anything stupid!

did the nine checksum produce any patterns that opened mental doors, conscious or unconscious via reasonings?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76932923


the nine pattern as far as i could determine produced a closed deterministic universe. then quantum became popular!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76932923


The nine pattern and its 'checksum' as you termed it, I would say, is akin to a gate and the process of moving through it, or not. It's not the gate. Not the gatekeeper. Not the mover. Not the static. It is not the lock. It is not the key.

It is the condition of placing the key into the lock and turning it the correct direction in order to open the way.

It is everywhere and nowhere, all dependent on conditions of overall environment.
...ah, what the hell
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During those four years did you go into a state of non-being?

Congrats on making it through
the 3rd shaking
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i'll take a wait and see attitude, chad!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76932923


Hey cuz,lol.
 Quoting: Sicksent


hey, all wallets on the table, don't anybody do anything stupid!

did the nine checksum produce any patterns that opened mental doors, conscious or unconscious via reasonings?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76932923


the nine pattern as far as i could determine produced a closed deterministic universe. then quantum became popular!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76932923


Because it forms a loop in its patterning. ALL PATTERNS being expressed do this by the very nature of what they ARE or are not.

Deterministic universe is in its own words, a closed system. Imbue a closed system with the inner voice of the eternal that becomes an active participant and the closed system is breached in places to become an open system.

How large is consciousness?
...ah, what the hell
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chad, don't allow interference in you responses comport yourself to the thought!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76932923


I see more, Alex. My responses are comported as they should be.
...ah, what the hell
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Hey cuz,lol.
 Quoting: Sicksent


hey, all wallets on the table, don't anybody do anything stupid!

did the nine checksum produce any patterns that opened mental doors, conscious or unconscious via reasonings?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76932923


the nine pattern as far as i could determine produced a closed deterministic universe. then quantum became popular!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76932923


The nine pattern and its 'checksum' as you termed it, I would say, is akin to a gate and the process of moving through it, or not. It's not the gate. Not the gatekeeper. Not the mover. Not the static. It is not the lock. It is not the key.

It is the condition of placing the key into the lock and turning it the correct direction in order to open the way.

It is everywhere and nowhere, all dependent on conditions of overall environment.
 Quoting: Sicksent


it sounds like the hindu vedic sun sign. facing all directions, and yet if you face it right it as one meaning and if you face it left it has the identical opposition meaning!
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Nice to see you again, SS.

In your previous incarnation, you were always one of the posters whose threads I would look for and follow. You always posted mind-bending content that I enjoyed.

I wish you would return here more often.

.
 Quoting: Zovalex


My last 4 years or so have not been a time of fun or joy. In every meaning of the words, I was broken until not a single thing left of my life was NOT broken.

I enjoyed immensely the era of Swinging on Spirals. I still wish to share so much. The great work does not deserve to be silent/silenced.
 Quoting: Sicksent


It’s my honor to upgrade your membership, friend.

Your knowledge can benefit so very many here, and you will find tremendous support from the GLP community.

.
 Quoting: Zovalex


*tipping my hat
...ah, what the hell
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During those four years did you go into a state of non-being?

Congrats on making it through
 Quoting: Xenophon


I went through that prior to the four years. During the 4, if death availed me, I would not have struggled.
...ah, what the hell
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Hey cuz,lol.
 Quoting: Sicksent


hey, all wallets on the table, don't anybody do anything stupid!

did the nine checksum produce any patterns that opened mental doors, conscious or unconscious via reasonings?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76932923


the nine pattern as far as i could determine produced a closed deterministic universe. then quantum became popular!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76932923


Because it forms a loop in its patterning. ALL PATTERNS being expressed do this by the very nature of what they ARE or are not.

Deterministic universe is in its own words, a closed system. Imbue a closed system with the inner voice of the eternal that becomes an active participant and the closed system is breached in places to become an open system.

How large is consciousness?
 Quoting: Sicksent


consciousness is the dependent on the vantage point!
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YOU STILL SWINGING ON SPIRALS ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28408601


Yes and no.
I have no choice after I started. I was beaten beyond measure. Hence my disappearance and retreat.

In every direction I chose to look into, I only saw defeat. For a time, I lost EVERYTHING. A single moment started it. In every direction the light grew dimmer if deciding to trod any paths away from me.

I isolated, and was torn apart in every way. When I found any type of solace or succor, I clung to it like a needy beggar, like a junkie... when nothing worked to change my condition, I began destroying everything around me. Pain, meet PAIN.
 Quoting: Sicksent


Some shamanic initiation processes can be as brutal during as they are breathtakingly life affirming after.

The most liberating lessons we could ever hope for are often those we barely manage to survive.

Congratulations, man.

cheers
 Quoting: Sync 76854568


Hell wears many disguises, and comes in near infinite flavors. It's power lies in its precision of execution.
...ah, what the hell





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