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Lady Jayne Smith
Forum Administrator 09/17/2020 01:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Are.you storing the food items inside of glass canning jars? The really big ones are great for this. For cereals or trail mix just mix it right in the jar, flour, sugar, all that can go right in the jar, open the package and pour. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74226610 Small packets of food can be pushed down in there and stored in the packet Freeze your flour for 48 hours before you store it. That kills any weavels or larvae that may be hiding in there Ditto for rice, lentils, beans, etc Fate whispers to the warrior "You cannot withstand the storm" the warrior whispers back "I am the storm" INTJ-A |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79192270 Netherlands 09/17/2020 01:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | one more thing, I had several fruit and vegetable packages that are freeze-dried. Inedible. Just plain Inedible. I think I would have eaten the packaging in an emergency before I would have eaten the actual foods inside them. Quoting: MeowMix You say this now, but most of us have never experienced true hunger. There could potentially come a time where we have no choice but to eat canned dog or cat food. Even dried dog food. Think the stored food you have is inedible? Wait until you try canned cat food. I find standard grocery store canned goods last longer than ANYTHING....at least 20-30 years. Just make sure you don't by those newer "easy open" cans. And I've stored them in all types of environments and they are totally unaffected unless as long as you keep them from getting rusty. |
peterpeccary
User ID: 79044425 United States 09/17/2020 01:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | BTW, there is a series on History channel with 2 guys tasting old food.....some of the consumer stuff they tried was still good after 50 yrs.....minute rice and pasta was two of them.... kinda entertaining too.... I always buy Mountain house freeze dried cuz they are a proven product with gov't contracts......with the freeze drying equipment being cheaper, a lot of fly by night companies popped up.....there are a few of these sellers on ebay....Caveat emptor ..... |
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Lily o' the Valley
User ID: 76203570 United States 09/17/2020 01:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I appreciate the heads up. I will have to wait until early next week to have a block of time,but I will post the results. . *** Good deeds bring rewards, bad actions bring troubles. That is a law of the universe. *** |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72523827 United States 09/17/2020 01:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Food dehydrator Potassium benzoate(optional) Vacuum sealer Garden Hunting license Fishing license I never understood these yuppies it spend all this money on this survival food crap |
The Oracle's Cookie
User ID: 76948143 United States 09/17/2020 01:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | one more thing, I had several fruit and vegetable packages that are freeze-dried. Inedible. Just plain Inedible. I think I would have eaten the packaging in an emergency before I would have eaten the actual foods inside them. Quoting: MeowMix I have been putting-food-by (as they say before the "prepping" label was used) for many years. I had a similar 'AH HA! EXPERIENCE" when I found a whole bin of white rice that had a particularly BAD ODOR when I opened the bin. It was a sterilized bin and the rice was placed in plastic with paper napkins to absorb any moisture int he bin. What I have since determined...is that the PLASTIC WRAPPER OF MOST COMMERCIAL RICE will degrade in an especially TOXIC WAY after about 2 years (depending on the manufacturer.) We need to (as "preppers") be SURE TO REPACKAGE our food stores in containers that will hold the food integrity for the duration of your need for back-ups. That being said...I don't know if there have been any scientific studies on the food integrity in certain plastic containers (like Tupperware, etc.) but that would sure be a good use of grant money if someone would take it on! Just a heads-up since this topic really has been on my mind in re-evaluating my own backup food stores now. Thanks for this thread--it is very timely. THE LAST THING YOU AND YOUR FAMILY NEED IN AN "EMERGENCY" IS FOOD POISONING! CHECK YOUR RESERVES! O's Cookie "An evil enemy will burn his own nation to the ground to rule over the ashes." – Sun Tzu"...."DO YOUR OWN HOMEWORK!" Thread: Partial crustal shift and the Sun / earth , Updated Catastrophe video pg. 114 Thread: Greatest Secret of the United States, Causes of the Ice Age and Nova, Thread: UPdated Pg.2: Davinci Equinox Code 3:"What the EQUINOX SHADOW Knows"--Equinox Triggers and Solar Micro-Nova. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79192270 Netherlands 09/17/2020 01:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I appreciate the heads up. I will have to wait until early next week to have a block of time,but I will post the results. . don't waste your time and your food. I think OP had his dehydrated food stored in a hot or a high "condensation" environment. There is no way mountain house can go bad in regular or optimal conditions. Also, storing food directly on the floor is not recommended because "moisture" can transfer from the floor into sealed cans. |
MeowMix
(OP) User ID: 76973540 United States 09/17/2020 01:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | one more thing, I had several fruit and vegetable packages that are freeze-dried. Inedible. Just plain Inedible. I think I would have eaten the packaging in an emergency before I would have eaten the actual foods inside them. Quoting: MeowMix You say this now, but most of us have never experienced true hunger. There could potentially come a time where we have no choice but to eat canned dog or cat food. Even dried dog food. Think the stored food you have is inedible? Wait until you try canned cat food. I completely get what you're talking about. But what you need to remember is that I promoted this crap for years to customers. People pay good money for this stuff. I was the sounding board so to speak for our company. I feel like a total piece of crap for misleading people! Do you get that? I have had customers in tears because they were so scared, I have had people so worried about the future and how to protect your family and their children that they were scrounging from wherever they could just to get a few dollars to take advantage of some special that we were advertising. People were putting their last dollar into storable foods. I would actually suggest to them if they were that scared that something was going to happen, that they go to their local grocery store and stock up on a few things until they could get the money to buy our foods. Yes I actually did that. Just mad at myself today okay? |
The Oracle's Cookie
User ID: 76948143 United States 09/17/2020 01:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I appreciate the heads up. I will have to wait until early next week to have a block of time,but I will post the results. . Please do! VERY IMPORTANT! (I'm just getting over food poisoning myself...so I KNOW YOU WANT YOUR FOOD FRESH!) O's Cookie "An evil enemy will burn his own nation to the ground to rule over the ashes." – Sun Tzu"...."DO YOUR OWN HOMEWORK!" Thread: Partial crustal shift and the Sun / earth , Updated Catastrophe video pg. 114 Thread: Greatest Secret of the United States, Causes of the Ice Age and Nova, Thread: UPdated Pg.2: Davinci Equinox Code 3:"What the EQUINOX SHADOW Knows"--Equinox Triggers and Solar Micro-Nova. |
MeowMix
(OP) User ID: 76973540 United States 09/17/2020 01:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | With all due respect, some of you folks are excellent at doing your own thing. I can appreciate that. But this is not a thread about how to do things. That is not what this thread is about. Please do not derail it and go off topic. Quoting: MeowMix Right now this subject is very important to me. I spent a lot of time counseling people on dehydrated foods, and assuring them that they were getting a quality product. When I check out my own stash I see that I have less than quality foods in my own stash so what does that mean for all of the customers that I have sold food to over the years and that is continually being sold now? What's going to happen to the family out in Utah or Alabama, or Virginia or Louisianan who spent literally thousands on their food supply when they go to open their foods – and see that half of it is crap? I am looking for feedback on customers who have bought COMMERCIAL FOODS. I'm talking about the big companies where they dehydrate and package the foods. You all know what I'm talking about. The foods that were promoted by the big companies that advertised on Glenn Beck, and 1 million other places. I'm talking about THOSE companies and the quality of the foods now. I want to know how many people ended up with crap food after they were promised it would last. We have a shit load of the large cans - would buy by the case and try one as soon as we got it. MOST OF IT TASTES LIKE CRAP FROM DAY ONE. We went through our “hidden” stored foods earlier this year when all this Covid crap started and found several of the Augason farms pails of wheat berries had cracked on the bottom due to expansion - popped the lid on one and it was full of dead bugs. Lost about 100 pounds of wheat berries. Everything else looked and sounded okay when shook and since I have no use for it. However, I no longer include it in my list of emergency foods. Have added pantry space and gone to full rotation. I still freeze the bags of rice and vacuum seal - but keep it readily accessible. now THIS is what I'm talking about. This is the kind of thing I need to know is happening two foods that were supposedly designed to last X amount of years. I'm very sorry you had to go through that. |
DCharlotte
User ID: 76600178 United States 09/17/2020 01:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't know if anything like this has been posted before but for the last few weeks I have been cleaning out things around here and on those things is my food stash. Mind you, I have been stashing food for about 10 years. I have foods from several different companies. Quoting: MeowMix As a side note let me just throw this in their real quick: I had a three month supply from a company that I received about seven or eight years ago and it had been stashed under my bed. I threw it out. One more sidenote: I used to work for one of the major storable food companies. I used to sell this stuff to customers. Now I feel like I have jilted them. So back to what I was saying, as I began clearing out things I started selling and throwing things out. What really struck me is how much of the food had actually gone "bad". Almost all of the foods from EFoods and My Patriot Supply were bad. What I mean by bad? Let me explain: Upon opening the bag the contents were a bit discolored. Well maybe that's part of the natural aging process and they're still actually edible, so I go to prepare them. Potato soup is gross. Cheesy broccoli and rice, gross. Granola, rancid. Cheesy potato soup was tolerable. Creamy chicken and rice, let's not go there. Tasted like ass. . I mean you can still live on the stuff I guess, but is this really what peole paid for? Weren't we told that these foods would keep for 25 years? I'm calling BS. I mean after all their dehydrated freeze-dried so they're supposed to retain their viability right? I'm going to go dig some more and experiment some more and document some more. I really believed in the products that I was selling to customers. I swear to God I hope that this is not common because if it is I have this crap on my conscience. Please check your own stash, or if you already have and have found out that your foods suck and you had to throw them away or get rid of them, respond and let me know. The companies that I have foods from are: EFoods My Patriot Supply ( think they changed the foods from Patriot Pantry to Ready Hour or something like that.) Wise, who I think is now under Readywise. Emergency Essentials. Food4Patriots Auguson Farms good to know, but you don't need to worry about this when you are buying now, because we won't be here in 25 yrs., probably won't make 5. Upcoming year is what people need to prep for. So there's that. Occult Ritual Transformation and Coronavirus: How Mask Wearing, Hand Washing, “Social Separation” and Lockdowns Are Age-Old Occult Rituals [link to haveyenotread.com (secure)] |
MeowMix
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79192270 Netherlands 09/17/2020 01:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | With all due respect, some of you folks are excellent at doing your own thing. I can appreciate that. But this is not a thread about how to do things. That is not what this thread is about. Please do not derail it and go off topic. Quoting: MeowMix Right now this subject is very important to me. I spent a lot of time counseling people on dehydrated foods, and assuring them that they were getting a quality product. When I check out my own stash I see that I have less than quality foods in my own stash so what does that mean for all of the customers that I have sold food to over the years and that is continually being sold now? What's going to happen to the family out in Utah or Alabama, or Virginia or Louisianan who spent literally thousands on their food supply when they go to open their foods – and see that half of it is crap? I am looking for feedback on customers who have bought COMMERCIAL FOODS. I'm talking about the big companies where they dehydrate and package the foods. You all know what I'm talking about. The foods that were promoted by the big companies that advertised on Glenn Beck, and 1 million other places. I'm talking about THOSE companies and the quality of the foods now. I want to know how many people ended up with crap food after they were promised it would last. We have a shit load of the large cans - would buy by the case and try one as soon as we got it. MOST OF IT TASTES LIKE CRAP FROM DAY ONE. We went through our “hidden” stored foods earlier this year when all this Covid crap started and found several of the Augason farms pails of wheat berries had cracked on the bottom due to expansion - popped the lid on one and it was full of dead bugs. Lost about 100 pounds of wheat berries. Everything else looked and sounded okay when shook and since I have no use for it. However, I no longer include it in my list of emergency foods. Have added pantry space and gone to full rotation. I still freeze the bags of rice and vacuum seal - but keep it readily accessible. now THIS is what I'm talking about. This is the kind of thing I need to know is happening two foods that were supposedly designed to last X amount of years. I'm very sorry you had to go through that. I think OP had his dehydrated food stored in a hot or a high "condensation" environment. There is no way mountain house can go bad in regular or optimal conditions. Also, storing food directly on the floor is not recommended because "moisture" can transfer from the floor into sealed cans. |
MeowMix
(OP) User ID: 76973540 United States 09/17/2020 01:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | one more thing, I had several fruit and vegetable packages that are freeze-dried. Inedible. Just plain Inedible. I think I would have eaten the packaging in an emergency before I would have eaten the actual foods inside them. Quoting: MeowMix I have been putting-food-by (as they say before the "prepping" label was used) for many years. I had a similar 'AH HA! EXPERIENCE" when I found a whole bin of white rice that had a particularly BAD ODOR when I opened the bin. It was a sterilized bin and the rice was placed in plastic with paper napkins to absorb any moisture int he bin. What I have since determined...is that the PLASTIC WRAPPER OF MOST COMMERCIAL RICE will degrade in an especially TOXIC WAY after about 2 years (depending on the manufacturer.) We need to (as "preppers") be SURE TO REPACKAGE our food stores in containers that will hold the food integrity for the duration of your need for back-ups. That being said...I don't know if there have been any scientific studies on the food integrity in certain plastic containers (like Tupperware, etc.) but that would sure be a good use of grant money if someone would take it on! Just a heads-up since this topic really has been on my mind in re-evaluating my own backup food stores now. Thanks for this thread--it is very timely. THE LAST THING YOU AND YOUR FAMILY NEED IN AN "EMERGENCY" IS FOOD POISONING! CHECK YOUR RESERVES! O's Cookie this is good info right here. Thank you Oracle |
The Oracle's Cookie
User ID: 76948143 United States 09/17/2020 01:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I appreciate the heads up. I will have to wait until early next week to have a block of time,but I will post the results. . don't waste your time and your food. I think OP had his dehydrated food stored in a hot or a high "condensation" environment. There is no way mountain house can go bad in regular or optimal conditions. Also, storing food directly on the floor is not recommended because "moisture" can transfer from the floor into sealed cans. Oh...and DO NOT USE KITTY LITTER TUBS FOR STORAGE... The chemicals from "scented litter" DO LEACH INTO THE TUB PLASTIC and will contaminate your food stores. O's Cookie "An evil enemy will burn his own nation to the ground to rule over the ashes." – Sun Tzu"...."DO YOUR OWN HOMEWORK!" Thread: Partial crustal shift and the Sun / earth , Updated Catastrophe video pg. 114 Thread: Greatest Secret of the United States, Causes of the Ice Age and Nova, Thread: UPdated Pg.2: Davinci Equinox Code 3:"What the EQUINOX SHADOW Knows"--Equinox Triggers and Solar Micro-Nova. |
Gemini Rising
User ID: 78633984 United States 09/17/2020 01:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Maybe tonight, when people are home from work? Not everyone is still stuck at home. I will bump this again tonight, just in case. Everyone should regularly check on the stuff they have stashed away. You don't want to be in an emergency situation when you find that your food has spoiled. |
Agent 99
User ID: 77082640 United States 09/17/2020 01:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A jar of fresh made ghee (butter oil) where the jar was sterile and sealed properly will last for a hundred years. Quoting: the decider Basmati Rice, stored properly, will last indefinitely. It is the king of rice, cooks in 12 minutes, easily digested and tastes like popcorn. Dried Beans (lentils and mung beans fast cooking and most digestible) stored properly, will last decades. High protein and easy to digest. Wheat berries store for 10-20 years. Just need a grinding mill to make flour as you go. Canned vegetables are good for 5 years. I have carrots, green beans, spinach, corn, tomatoe, potatoes, etc. Properly freeze dried vegetables likewise but you might need to do it yourself to do it right. Salt, Pepper, cinnamon, ginger, and freshly ground spices like those in mixed curry, properly sealed in small serving containers, will last a decade. The spices in curry are anti-inflammatory, increase digestion, anti-parasitic, anti-oxidant, and are tasty. So quite simply you have FRESH MADE rice and beans with vegetables in a butter/curry sauce and flat-bread at the ready for super cheap, without relying on the dubious "ready made" freeze dried techniques that promise 20 year shelf life that winds up being more like 3 or 4 MAX. Try to find a grinding mill!!! I bought mine 10 years ago, still in the box. Was expensive back then. All good info in this post!!! I suspected Auguson Farms was crap but have a few cans anyway. Unopened. |
Amelia B
User ID: 28518686 United States 09/17/2020 01:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't know if anything like this has been posted before but for the last few weeks I have been cleaning out things around here and on those things is my food stash. Mind you, I have been stashing food for about 10 years. I have foods from several different companies. Quoting: MeowMix As a side note let me just throw this in their real quick: I had a three month supply from a company that I received about seven or eight years ago and it had been stashed under my bed. I threw it out. One more sidenote: I used to work for one of the major storable food companies. I used to sell this stuff to customers. Now I feel like I have jilted them. So back to what I was saying, as I began clearing out things I started selling and throwing things out. What really struck me is how much of the food had actually gone "bad". Almost all of the foods from EFoods and My Patriot Supply were bad. What I mean by bad? Let me explain: Upon opening the bag the contents were a bit discolored. Well maybe that's part of the natural aging process and they're still actually edible, so I go to prepare them. Potato soup is gross. Cheesy broccoli and rice, gross. Granola, rancid. Cheesy potato soup was tolerable. Creamy chicken and rice, let's not go there. Tasted like ass. . EFoods My Patriot Supply ( think they changed the foods from Patriot Pantry to Ready Hour or something like that.) Wise, who I think is now under Readywise. Emergency Essentials. Food4Patriots Auguson Farms I noticed a couple of things that could be cause of your food going bad. Most suppliers of survival foods recommend that the food be store in a cool place, under 75 degrees. I do not think under ones bed is the proper area to store you food. Noticed you mentioned opening packages. Never been a fan of the packets, most open or have issues. One should buy #10 cans or buy the buckets of product. Also, do not buy the pre-mixed meals. They are gross. Those companies you named are not the best to get meals from. Mountain House is hands down the best but pricey. You get what you pay for. For the future, look at Thrive Life foods. They are quality IMO and they also promote buying individual items and you making the meals. [link to www.thrivelife.com (secure)] If you select the learn button you will see recipes. It shows you how to cook with the dehydrated foods. Instead of buying a pre-made dehydrated meal, learn to combine to create your own. |
The Oracle's Cookie
User ID: 76948143 United States 09/17/2020 01:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | one more thing, I had several fruit and vegetable packages that are freeze-dried. Inedible. Just plain Inedible. I think I would have eaten the packaging in an emergency before I would have eaten the actual foods inside them. Quoting: MeowMix I have been putting-food-by (as they say before the "prepping" label was used) for many years. I had a similar 'AH HA! EXPERIENCE" when I found a whole bin of white rice that had a particularly BAD ODOR when I opened the bin. It was a sterilized bin and the rice was placed in plastic with paper napkins to absorb any moisture int he bin. What I have since determined...is that the PLASTIC WRAPPER OF MOST COMMERCIAL RICE will degrade in an especially TOXIC WAY after about 2 years (depending on the manufacturer.) We need to (as "preppers") be SURE TO REPACKAGE our food stores in containers that will hold the food integrity for the duration of your need for back-ups. That being said...I don't know if there have been any scientific studies on the food integrity in certain plastic containers (like Tupperware, etc.) but that would sure be a good use of grant money if someone would take it on! Just a heads-up since this topic really has been on my mind in re-evaluating my own backup food stores now. Thanks for this thread--it is very timely. THE LAST THING YOU AND YOUR FAMILY NEED IN AN "EMERGENCY" IS FOOD POISONING! CHECK YOUR RESERVES! O's Cookie this is good info right here. Thank you Oracle Sure MEOW MIX...God I LOVE that avatar name! lol! "An evil enemy will burn his own nation to the ground to rule over the ashes." – Sun Tzu"...."DO YOUR OWN HOMEWORK!" Thread: Partial crustal shift and the Sun / earth , Updated Catastrophe video pg. 114 Thread: Greatest Secret of the United States, Causes of the Ice Age and Nova, Thread: UPdated Pg.2: Davinci Equinox Code 3:"What the EQUINOX SHADOW Knows"--Equinox Triggers and Solar Micro-Nova. |
Fluffy Pancakes
User ID: 76048189 United States 09/17/2020 01:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Beans and rice never go bad. Orchards never go bad. Fish ponds never go bad. Wild game never goes bad. Perennial beds never go bad. Canned meat lasts for decades. Seeds last for decades if stored properly. Do it right. Quoting: Icey Try to cook and eat old beans. They will not get soft even after soaking and cooking for days. You have to add baking soda to them. Then warm the water and let them soak. I agree it's a pita. Things are bad enough, there is no need to make anything up. ~Fluffy "Never interrupt an enemy in the process of destroying himself." Quercitin and zinc...Get it. Take it. Visit howbad.info...If you took the shot, for sure. |
grannyB
User ID: 15969040 United States 09/17/2020 01:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All I know is there are going to be LOTS of very disappointed upset folks when they go to use their stored foods. Quoting: MeowMix People have spent thousands of dollars on these foods. They might be able to use half of them, maybe more, maybe less. I have used all those products over the years. Way back when Sam Andy was in business a family member sold their stuff in their shop. Anytime one of us had a birthday or whatever that family member would give us a box of six cans of whatever as gifts. Another friend sold NeoLife products which included long term food items. She payed off the purchase of livestock from me by paying off her bill with some of her sale items. Right after 9/11 I purchased enough long term storage foods for 8 people for a year. Do NOT toss that food away ... if you don't want to eat it either give it to your chickens and pigs, or give it to someone to use for their own stock, if you are not into raising living animals. I am currently going thru my stuff also and everyday the pigs and chickens get some stuff to chow down on. They are not sick but growing fast. I have eaten a lot of this stuff over the years but the very best is still Mountain House!!!!! |
MeowMix
(OP) User ID: 76973540 United States 09/17/2020 01:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I appreciate the heads up. I will have to wait until early next week to have a block of time,but I will post the results. . don't waste your time and your food. I think OP had his dehydrated food stored in a hot or a high "condensation" environment. There is no way mountain house can go bad in regular or optimal conditions. Also, storing food directly on the floor is not recommended because "moisture" can transfer from the floor into sealed cans. okay, now you know what they say about ASSuming, right? Please don't be that. I can positively 100% assure you that my foods were not stored in a hot humid environment. There was no exposure to moisture whatsoever. Don't even know why I felt compelled to say that. I'm sorry you misunderstood or got the wrong impression. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 3472861 Canada 09/17/2020 01:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not being the least bit religious, but I was wondering the other day how they stored grains in the BC era. I was thinking about the old story where Joseph had a dream about a famine and they stored grains for 7 years in preparation of the famine and saved the people. What all did they store, how did they store it and how much did they store to save so many people? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67789290 I'm a good Catholic. Joseph interpreted the Pharaoh's dream. There would be 7 excellent harvests then 7 years of drought. So Pharaoh had food stored during the good years. I think it was mostly grains and Egypt grew wheat mostly. They stored things off the ground in a mud brick thing I have no idea what is called. Its about ten feet by ten feet by ten feet high. He would have had row after row of these things. They ate a lot of bread back then. The Word of God says none are good!! When you say you're a good catholic, what ever do you mean?? |
peterpeccary
User ID: 79044425 United States 09/17/2020 01:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | one more thing, I had several fruit and vegetable packages that are freeze-dried. Inedible. Just plain Inedible. I think I would have eaten the packaging in an emergency before I would have eaten the actual foods inside them. Quoting: MeowMix I have been putting-food-by (as they say before the "prepping" label was used) for many years. I had a similar 'AH HA! EXPERIENCE" when I found a whole bin of white rice that had a particularly BAD ODOR when I opened the bin. It was a sterilized bin and the rice was placed in plastic with paper napkins to absorb any moisture int he bin. What I have since determined...is that the PLASTIC WRAPPER OF MOST COMMERCIAL RICE will degrade in an especially TOXIC WAY after about 2 years (depending on the manufacturer.) We need to (as "preppers") be SURE TO REPACKAGE our food stores in containers that will hold the food integrity for the duration of your need for back-ups. That being said...I don't know if there have been any scientific studies on the food integrity in certain plastic containers (like Tupperware, etc.) but that would sure be a good use of grant money if someone would take it on! Just a heads-up since this topic really has been on my mind in re-evaluating my own backup food stores now. Thanks for this thread--it is very timely. THE LAST THING YOU AND YOUR FAMILY NEED IN AN "EMERGENCY" IS FOOD POISONING! CHECK YOUR RESERVES! O's Cookie You can buy heavy duty food grade pails.....if putting away rice for long term storage, you can't trust out of the package rice......the rice could already have a high moisture content..... I spread and dry the rice in the oven at a low temp for 6 hrs, and seal in the airtight pails with a nitrogen purge followed by oxygen absorber packs....my gal. pails from the early 90's are still good.....I open to inspect and reseal with new oxygen absorber packs.... Last Edited by peterpeccary on 09/17/2020 01:42 PM |
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MeowMix
(OP) User ID: 76973540 United States 09/17/2020 01:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | With all due respect, some of you folks are excellent at doing your own thing. I can appreciate that. But this is not a thread about how to do things. That is not what this thread is about. Please do not derail it and go off topic. Quoting: MeowMix Right now this subject is very important to me. I spent a lot of time counseling people on dehydrated foods, and assuring them that they were getting a quality product. When I check out my own stash I see that I have less than quality foods in my own stash so what does that mean for all of the customers that I have sold food to over the years and that is continually being sold now? What's going to happen to the family out in Utah or Alabama, or Virginia or Louisianan who spent literally thousands on their food supply when they go to open their foods – and see that half of it is crap? I am looking for feedback on customers who have bought COMMERCIAL FOODS. I'm talking about the big companies where they dehydrate and package the foods. You all know what I'm talking about. The foods that were promoted by the big companies that advertised on Glenn Beck, and 1 million other places. I'm talking about THOSE companies and the quality of the foods now. I want to know how many people ended up with crap food after they were promised it would last. Where ddid you have them stored? They need to be in climate controlled storage or they won't last nearly as long. The three month supply I had stored under my bed on a carpeted floor inside the original containers it was shipped in. They are airtight and water proof. The temperature in my home is a constant 72°. Other foods had been stored in internal closets within my home in various places. Dry and dark. No garages, no sheds, no basements. It's the coolest temperature I could possibly store it out without moving it to a refrigerated facility. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77936235 United States 09/17/2020 01:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You can buy individual packets of that dried food on Amazon. I tried a lot of them and I liked very few of them because the texture. There was nothing wrong with the food but there's a reason why people don't sell a lot of dried foods! I really wouldn't need any of it unless it was survival only. Dried food does last a very long time though if it's stored right. Rice does best stored in the freezer! Freeze dried strawberries & blueberries are great, but I have yet to find any freeze dried meat that was really something I wanted to eat, other than jerky, and we like it so much it never last long! I have dried nearly a whole buck and we still ate it all. I love drying foods though and have two dryers. Celery, kale, carrots, broccoli, tomatoes, herbs, peppers, all excellent dried. Some foods can be smoked and then dried and it can change the whole flavor profile. I mainly use dried foods in soups, casseroles, salsas, and sauces. Many foods do better frozen because of the texture! I buy 10 to 20 lb of onions at a time and use the food processor to chop them, and freeze them in small baggies and it saves me a lot of time! Kroger has frozen peas and carrots on sale for $0.80 sometimes, usually no more than $1. I stock the freezer with a lot of their frozen vegetables. If we ever lost power in a catastrophe I could just take some of them out, rack and dry them, since they blanched them before freezing. You can't keep dried vegetables in humid climates if they aren't protected from the humidity. A small hole in one of those foil bags that a lot of dried food comes in could ruin it. |
Amelia B
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getup
User ID: 76871268 United States 09/17/2020 01:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Special bacteria put in can foods for years now to make them last no longer than 5 years. Last Edited by messagehalted on 09/17/2020 01:53 PM All my post are theatrical artistic writing . |