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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79389046 United States 09/17/2020 12:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't know if anything like this has been posted before but for the last few weeks I have been cleaning out things around here and on those things is my food stash. Mind you, I have been stashing food for about 10 years. I have foods from several different companies. Quoting: MeowMix As a side note let me just throw this in their real quick: I had a three month supply from a company that I received about seven or eight years ago and it had been stashed under my bed. I threw it out. One more sidenote: I used to work for one of the major storable food companies. I used to sell this stuff to customers. Now I feel like I have jilted them. So back to what I was saying, as I began clearing out things I started selling and throwing things out. What really struck me is how much of the food had actually gone "bad". Almost all of the foods from EFoods and My Patriot Supply were bad. What I mean by bad? Let me explain: Upon opening the bag the contents were a bit discolored. Well maybe that's part of the natural aging process and they're still actually edible, so I go to prepare them. Potato soup is gross. Cheesy broccoli and rice, gross. Granola, rancid. Cheesy potato soup was tolerable. Creamy chicken and rice, let's not go there. Tasted like ass. . I mean you can still live on the stuff I guess, but is this really what peole paid for? Weren't we told that these foods would keep for 25 years? I'm calling BS. I mean after all their dehydrated freeze-dried so they're supposed to retain their viability right? I'm going to go dig some more and experiment some more and document some more. I really believed in the products that I was selling to customers. I swear to God I hope that this is not common because if it is I have this crap on my conscience. Please check your own stash, or if you already have and have found out that your foods suck and you had to throw them away or get rid of them, respond and let me know. The companies that I have foods from are: EFoods My Patriot Supply ( think they changed the foods from Patriot Pantry to Ready Hour or something like that.) Wise, who I think is now under Readywise. Emergency Essentials. Food4Patriots Auguson Farms Im not a prepper cause I dont have the income but as I understand its best to buy what youd use in the first place, and simply rotate supplies Plain rice and dried beans as well is a good choice. You cant go wrong with that I started in my teens. Try having much income then. I did EVERYTHING myself. Sure, some products I had to buy, but that was things like road plates, copper mesh and chicken wire. |
Icey
User ID: 77119763 United States 09/17/2020 12:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Beans and rice never go bad. Orchards never go bad. Fish ponds never go bad. Wild game never goes bad. Perennial beds never go bad. Canned meat lasts for decades. Seeds last for decades if stored properly. Do it right. Quoting: Icey Try to cook and eat old beans. They will not get soft even after soaking and cooking for days. Learn how to cook. I am SNOWIE. WELCOME TO THE NEW ICE AGE. TRY NOT TO STARVE. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79389046 United States 09/17/2020 12:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If I told you I "saw" this all coming, you would not believe me. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79389046 So, since dates matter... Thread: Eating a can of 12 year old apples. Thread: Planning ahead. Would you buy this house? I'm not talking canned here, I am talking dehydrated and freeze dried that is supposed to last and it's not. The apples are freeze dried, #10 cans. Most everything is. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79389046 United States 09/17/2020 12:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All I know is there are going to be LOTS of very disappointed upset folks when they go to use their stored foods. Quoting: MeowMix People have spent thousands of dollars on these foods. They might be able to use half of them, maybe more, maybe less. NEVER buy from a "specialty" company. They are usually fads. They have a huge influx, then the buying stops. They go out of business and you are none-the-wiser till many years down the roads. PLUS, they got into the business for PROFIT above all else. |
Doctor Congo
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79389046 United States 09/17/2020 12:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not being the least bit religious, but I was wondering the other day how they stored grains in the BC era. I was thinking about the old story where Joseph had a dream about a famine and they stored grains for 7 years in preparation of the famine and saved the people. What all did they store, how did they store it and how much did they store to save so many people? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67789290 I'm a good Catholic. Joseph interpreted the Pharaoh's dream. There would be 7 excellent harvests then 7 years of drought. So Pharaoh had food stored during the good years. I think it was mostly grains and Egypt grew wheat mostly. They stored things off the ground in a mud brick thing I have no idea what is called. Its about ten feet by ten feet by ten feet high. He would have had row after row of these things. They ate a lot of bread back then. They had real bread then. Not the shit we call bread today. |
MeowMix
(OP) User ID: 76973540 United States 09/17/2020 12:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | With all due respect, some of you folks are excellent at doing your own thing. I can appreciate that. But this is not a thread about how to do things. That is not what this thread is about. Please do not derail it and go off topic. Right now this subject is very important to me. I spent a lot of time counseling people on dehydrated foods, and assuring them that they were getting a quality product. When I check out my own stash I see that I have less than quality foods in my own stash so what does that mean for all of the customers that I have sold food to over the years and that is continually being sold now? What's going to happen to the family out in Utah or Alabama, or Virginia or Louisianan who spent literally thousands on their food supply when they go to open their foods – and see that half of it is crap? I am looking for feedback on customers who have bought COMMERCIAL FOODS. I'm talking about the big companies where they dehydrate and package the foods. You all know what I'm talking about. The foods that were promoted by the big companies that advertised on Glenn Beck, and 1 million other places. I'm talking about THOSE companies and the quality of the foods now. I want to know how many people ended up with crap food after they were promised it would last. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78686355 09/17/2020 12:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The only way to seriously prep is to make homemade foods like pemican and dried meats and fruits and own professional freeze drying tools and packaging. I always thought those emergency food packs were stupid; to many carbs you'd go crazy with lack of protein. Nobody with a palate could survive more than three months eating that stuff before life would just be unlivable. Personally I wouldn't bother and just die. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79389046 United States 09/17/2020 12:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was thinking about getting a big freeze drier but they cost like 10 grand. I should buy one and let the local people use it too. They already use part of my greenhouse. Quoting: Doctor Congo Forge alliances with people/companies that have. Trade knowledge for use of equipment. I even learned how to weld this way. The prepper community has some very crafty people. The smartest ones never let it be known. (Outside of anonymity on the net) You have to FIND them. |
MeowMix
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 67789290 United States 09/17/2020 12:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Beans and rice never go bad. Orchards never go bad. Fish ponds never go bad. Wild game never goes bad. Perennial beds never go bad. Canned meat lasts for decades. Seeds last for decades if stored properly. Do it right. Quoting: Icey Try to cook and eat old beans. They will not get soft even after soaking and cooking for days. Learn how to cook. We have had this fight before over old beans LOL. OK you find some ten year old beans and come back and tell us how it is done. I know some tricks, but most people will not be able to eat them. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79389046 United States 09/17/2020 12:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | With all due respect, some of you folks are excellent at doing your own thing. I can appreciate that. But this is not a thread about how to do things. That is not what this thread is about. Please do not derail it and go off topic. Quoting: MeowMix Right now this subject is very important to me. I spent a lot of time counseling people on dehydrated foods, and assuring them that they were getting a quality product. When I check out my own stash I see that I have less than quality foods in my own stash so what does that mean for all of the customers that I have sold food to over the years and that is continually being sold now? What's going to happen to the family out in Utah or Alabama, or Virginia or Louisianan who spent literally thousands on their food supply when they go to open their foods – and see that half of it is crap? I am looking for feedback on customers who have bought COMMERCIAL FOODS. I'm talking about the big companies where they dehydrate and package the foods. You all know what I'm talking about. The foods that were promoted by the big companies that advertised on Glenn Beck, and 1 million other places. I'm talking about THOSE companies and the quality of the foods now. I want to know how many people ended up with crap food after they were promised it would last. Suckers are born every minute. Over the years, I tried to give advice on those places and was called a shill and told I did not know anything. On this very form. Like I said... I started in the 90's. I believe it was 1995 to be exact. Did you think a company with the name of PATRIOT SUPPLY that sold "prepper" goods had your, or their best interests in mind when they founded the company? |
MeowMix
(OP) User ID: 76973540 United States 09/17/2020 12:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If I told you I "saw" this all coming, you would not believe me. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79389046 So, since dates matter... Thread: Eating a can of 12 year old apples. Thread: Planning ahead. Would you buy this house? I'm not talking canned here, I am talking dehydrated and freeze dried that is supposed to last and it's not. The apples are freeze dried, #10 cans. Most everything is. If they were okay then great! But I wish I could show you the freeze-dried raspberries, strawberries, blueberries and diced tomatoes that I dealt with a couple days ago. I don't get grossed out very easy, but I can positively confirm I was grossed out when I dealt with these things. Before rehydration and especially after. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75362229 09/17/2020 12:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not being the least bit religious, but I was wondering the other day how they stored grains in the BC era. I was thinking about the old story where Joseph had a dream about a famine and they stored grains for 7 years in preparation of the famine and saved the people. What all did they store, how did they store it and how much did they store to save so many people? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67789290 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 67789290 United States 09/17/2020 12:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | With all due respect, some of you folks are excellent at doing your own thing. I can appreciate that. But this is not a thread about how to do things. That is not what this thread is about. Please do not derail it and go off topic. Quoting: MeowMix Right now this subject is very important to me. I spent a lot of time counseling people on dehydrated foods, and assuring them that they were getting a quality product. When I check out my own stash I see that I have less than quality foods in my own stash so what does that mean for all of the customers that I have sold food to over the years and that is continually being sold now? What's going to happen to the family out in Utah or Alabama, or Virginia or Louisianan who spent literally thousands on their food supply when they go to open their foods – and see that half of it is crap? I am looking for feedback on customers who have bought COMMERCIAL FOODS. I'm talking about the big companies where they dehydrate and package the foods. You all know what I'm talking about. The foods that were promoted by the big companies that advertised on Glenn Beck, and 1 million other places. I'm talking about THOSE companies and the quality of the foods now. I want to know how many people ended up with crap food after they were promised it would last. OK |
MeowMix
(OP) User ID: 76973540 United States 09/17/2020 12:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All I know is there are going to be LOTS of very disappointed upset folks when they go to use their stored foods. Quoting: MeowMix People have spent thousands of dollars on these foods. They might be able to use half of them, maybe more, maybe less. NEVER buy from a "specialty" company. They are usually fads. They have a huge influx, then the buying stops. They go out of business and you are none-the-wiser till many years down the roads. PLUS, they got into the business for PROFIT above all else. I hate to burst your bubble but most businesses go into business for profit. :-) Right now the preparedness food industry is at an all-time high, and none of them are "going out of business". The top ones can't keep up with their orders. The ones that went out of business went out long ago, like several years ago. They are still promoting foods which is fine, but what I'm afraid there promoting isn't all it's cut out to be. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79389046 United States 09/17/2020 12:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If I told you I "saw" this all coming, you would not believe me. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79389046 So, since dates matter... Thread: Eating a can of 12 year old apples. Thread: Planning ahead. Would you buy this house? I'm not talking canned here, I am talking dehydrated and freeze dried that is supposed to last and it's not. The apples are freeze dried, #10 cans. Most everything is. If they were okay then great! But I wish I could show you the freeze-dried raspberries, strawberries, blueberries and diced tomatoes that I dealt with a couple days ago. I don't get grossed out very easy, but I can positively confirm I was grossed out when I dealt with these things. Before rehydration and especially after. Lots of places cut corners when the surges hit. Honeyville Grain even cut corners in their packaging methods. They used to FILL their #10's. Now they are about half full. |
not-a-canadian
User ID: 79149214 United States 09/17/2020 12:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Plastic is molecularly permeable to air. Anything stored in plastic will oxidize slowly, hence the complaints about fats going rancid by the OP. Storable food that is flushed with nitrogen and has oxygen absorbers and canned in metal won't. I have eaten 20 year old Mountain House/Oregon Freeze Dry #10 canned stuff that still tasted fresh. |
the decider
User ID: 79307851 United States 09/17/2020 12:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | With all due respect, some of you folks are excellent at doing your own thing. I can appreciate that. But this is not a thread about how to do things. That is not what this thread is about. Please do not derail it and go off topic. Quoting: MeowMix Right now this subject is very important to me. I spent a lot of time counseling people on dehydrated foods, and assuring them that they were getting a quality product. When I check out my own stash I see that I have less than quality foods in my own stash so what does that mean for all of the customers that I have sold food to over the years and that is continually being sold now? What's going to happen to the family out in Utah or Alabama, or Virginia or Louisianan who spent literally thousands on their food supply when they go to open their foods – and see that half of it is crap? I am looking for feedback on customers who have bought COMMERCIAL FOODS. I'm talking about the big companies where they dehydrate and package the foods. You all know what I'm talking about. The foods that were promoted by the big companies that advertised on Glenn Beck, and 1 million other places. I'm talking about THOSE companies and the quality of the foods now. I want to know how many people ended up with crap food after they were promised it would last. From my experience and what I have heard, I am willing to wager that at least half of the "ready made meals" from the big companies are inedible a year out, which seems to mirror your experience and some of the feedback you already got. Which is why I ONLY counsel people to choose the foolproof version of prepping for long term disaster that I dropped in a post on this thread on the previous page. Why role the dice? Yes, it requires an extra step using boiling water and mixing of ingredients to make a meal as opposed to dumping a packet into hot water. But you don't need to go to chef school, and the result in terms of taste and nutrition is incomparable, not to mention half the cost or less. Augmented by Grace |
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MeowMix
(OP) User ID: 76973540 United States 09/17/2020 12:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | With all due respect, some of you folks are excellent at doing your own thing. I can appreciate that. But this is not a thread about how to do things. That is not what this thread is about. Please do not derail it and go off topic. Quoting: MeowMix Right now this subject is very important to me. I spent a lot of time counseling people on dehydrated foods, and assuring them that they were getting a quality product. When I check out my own stash I see that I have less than quality foods in my own stash so what does that mean for all of the customers that I have sold food to over the years and that is continually being sold now? What's going to happen to the family out in Utah or Alabama, or Virginia or Louisianan who spent literally thousands on their food supply when they go to open their foods – and see that half of it is crap? I am looking for feedback on customers who have bought COMMERCIAL FOODS. I'm talking about the big companies where they dehydrate and package the foods. You all know what I'm talking about. The foods that were promoted by the big companies that advertised on Glenn Beck, and 1 million other places. I'm talking about THOSE companies and the quality of the foods now. I want to know how many people ended up with crap food after they were promised it would last. Suckers are born every minute. Over the years, I tried to give advice on those places and was called a shill and told I did not know anything. On this very form. Like I said... I started in the 90's. I believe it was 1995 to be exact. Did you think a company with the name of PATRIOT SUPPLY that sold "prepper" goods had your, or their best interests in mind when they founded the company? you've been at this for a very long time, and I'm sure you remember when EFoods came on the scene. I remember their ads from the early 2000's. None of their foods lasted. When the other companies like MY PATRIOTS APPLY and FOOD FOR PATRIOTS and WISE came along you would've thought there would have been some credibility developed. They seem to offer a viable product. I think the problem was there just wasn't enough time behind it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79389046 United States 09/17/2020 12:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All I know is there are going to be LOTS of very disappointed upset folks when they go to use their stored foods. Quoting: MeowMix People have spent thousands of dollars on these foods. They might be able to use half of them, maybe more, maybe less. NEVER buy from a "specialty" company. They are usually fads. They have a huge influx, then the buying stops. They go out of business and you are none-the-wiser till many years down the roads. PLUS, they got into the business for PROFIT above all else. I hate to burst your bubble but most businesses go into business for profit. :-) Right now the preparedness food industry is at an all-time high, and none of them are "going out of business". The top ones can't keep up with their orders. The ones that went out of business went out long ago, like several years ago. They are still promoting foods which is fine, but what I'm afraid there promoting isn't all it's cut out to be. No bubble to be burst here. I outfitted two other homes before my current designed to be able to survive without human contact for a few years. You and other were taken advantage of because you did not want to learn to do for yourself. Doomsday Preppers was even a sham. NO real prepper would ever show their ways to the general public. Get wiser. |
wingnut1234
Keep Texas Free! User ID: 77057405 United States 09/17/2020 12:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not being the least bit religious, but I was wondering the other day how they stored grains in the BC era. I was thinking about the old story where Joseph had a dream about a famine and they stored grains for 7 years in preparation of the famine and saved the people. What all did they store, how did they store it and how much did they store to save so many people? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67789290 I'm a good Catholic. Joseph interpreted the Pharaoh's dream. There would be 7 excellent harvests then 7 years of drought. So Pharaoh had food stored during the good years. I think it was mostly grains and Egypt grew wheat mostly. They stored things off the ground in a mud brick thing I have no idea what is called. Its about ten feet by ten feet by ten feet high. He would have had row after row of these things. They ate a lot of bread back then. They had real bread then. Not the shit we call bread today. I did an experiment with commercial bread lately. Evidently it lasts indefinitely now. I kept it 4 months past expiration AND THE SHIT DIDNT MOLD. The last month I left the bag open...still no mold. Tortillas, same same. Havn't eaten store-bought bread since. |
izme
User ID: 74850718 United States 09/17/2020 12:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What I have noticed lately is the date on milk possibly maybe intentionally mislabeled. I usually buy a gallon and decant into glass milk bottles. Initially this worked great but now it goes bad very quickly. Ik’ve stopped using liquid milk, and switched to powdered milk. Cookie are nice!!! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79389046 United States 09/17/2020 12:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | With all due respect, some of you folks are excellent at doing your own thing. I can appreciate that. But this is not a thread about how to do things. That is not what this thread is about. Please do not derail it and go off topic. Quoting: MeowMix Right now this subject is very important to me. I spent a lot of time counseling people on dehydrated foods, and assuring them that they were getting a quality product. When I check out my own stash I see that I have less than quality foods in my own stash so what does that mean for all of the customers that I have sold food to over the years and that is continually being sold now? What's going to happen to the family out in Utah or Alabama, or Virginia or Louisianan who spent literally thousands on their food supply when they go to open their foods – and see that half of it is crap? I am looking for feedback on customers who have bought COMMERCIAL FOODS. I'm talking about the big companies where they dehydrate and package the foods. You all know what I'm talking about. The foods that were promoted by the big companies that advertised on Glenn Beck, and 1 million other places. I'm talking about THOSE companies and the quality of the foods now. I want to know how many people ended up with crap food after they were promised it would last. Suckers are born every minute. Over the years, I tried to give advice on those places and was called a shill and told I did not know anything. On this very form. Like I said... I started in the 90's. I believe it was 1995 to be exact. Did you think a company with the name of PATRIOT SUPPLY that sold "prepper" goods had your, or their best interests in mind when they founded the company? you've been at this for a very long time, and I'm sure you remember when EFoods came on the scene. I remember their ads from the early 2000's. None of their foods lasted. When the other companies like MY PATRIOTS APPLY and FOOD FOR PATRIOTS and WISE came along you would've thought there would have been some credibility developed. They seem to offer a viable product. I think the problem was there just wasn't enough time behind it. I trust ONE person with EVERYTHING in this life. That one person is typing this message. Knowledge is the single best prep any one person can have. |
MeowMix
(OP) User ID: 76973540 United States 09/17/2020 12:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Plastic is molecularly permeable to air. Anything stored in plastic will oxidize slowly, hence the complaints about fats going rancid by the OP. Storable food that is flushed with nitrogen and has oxygen absorbers and canned in metal won't. I have eaten 20 year old Mountain House/Oregon Freeze Dry #10 canned stuff that still tasted fresh. Quoting: not-a-canadian does that include the triple layer mylar packaging that is so commonly used? |
not-a-canadian
User ID: 79149214 United States 09/17/2020 12:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Plastic is molecularly permeable to air. Anything stored in plastic will oxidize slowly, hence the complaints about fats going rancid by the OP. Storable food that is flushed with nitrogen and has oxygen absorbers and canned in metal won't. I have eaten 20 year old Mountain House/Oregon Freeze Dry #10 canned stuff that still tasted fresh. Quoting: not-a-canadian And realistically, the best thing to do is just store more of what you already eat. If it's nearing expiration and it stuff you normally don't eat, donate it to a foodbank instead and rebuy it. You can't just invest once in emergency food storage and forget about it for 10 years. It's an ongoing expense, and realistically it's cheaper to just rotate out what you already eat and donate stuff than you don't before laying out a couple thousand bucks for these survival packages. |
Doctor Congo
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79389046 United States 09/17/2020 12:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not being the least bit religious, but I was wondering the other day how they stored grains in the BC era. I was thinking about the old story where Joseph had a dream about a famine and they stored grains for 7 years in preparation of the famine and saved the people. What all did they store, how did they store it and how much did they store to save so many people? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67789290 I'm a good Catholic. Joseph interpreted the Pharaoh's dream. There would be 7 excellent harvests then 7 years of drought. So Pharaoh had food stored during the good years. I think it was mostly grains and Egypt grew wheat mostly. They stored things off the ground in a mud brick thing I have no idea what is called. Its about ten feet by ten feet by ten feet high. He would have had row after row of these things. They ate a lot of bread back then. They had real bread then. Not the shit we call bread today. I did an experiment with commercial bread lately. Evidently it lasts indefinitely now. I kept it 4 months past expiration AND THE SHIT DIDNT MOLD. The last month I left the bag open...still no mold. Tortillas, same same. Havn't eaten store-bought bread since. Reminds me of the guy who found the McDonald's hamburger in his pocket after something like DECADES. I looked it up. 20 years. [link to www.ndtv.com (secure)] |