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IMPORTANT MESSAGE TO PREPPER and PEOPLE WHO STOCKPILE COMMERCIAL FOODS FROM COMPANIES

 
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If you have old split peas and lentils they have to be soaked, with a little backing soda in the cooking or they will not get soft either and give them plenty of soak and cooking time. Do not add salt to your cooking water for old beans or legumes until they have soften.
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Beans and rice never go bad. Orchards never go bad. Fish ponds never go bad. Wild game never goes bad. Perennial beds never go bad. Canned meat lasts for decades. Seeds last for decades if stored properly. Do it right.
 Quoting: Icey


Try to cook and eat old beans. They will not get soft even after soaking and cooking for days.
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Learn how to cook.
 Quoting: Icey


We have had this fight before over old beans LOL. OK you find some ten year old beans and come back and tell us how it is done. I know some tricks, but most people will not be able to eat them.
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First soak the beans. The quickie soak isn't very useful for OLD beans, so soak them overnight, 12 hours at least. Then, if you have reason to think they are going to be tough, bring them to a boil, turn off the heat, [and add] 3/8 teaspoon of baking soda per 3 cups of water (and 3 cups of water per cup of beans). [Pour out the water, rinse the beans repeatedly, and cover with new water.] Then boil them as usual. IF they are still too much al dente, then pull them out, and pressure-cook them (put some of the spices, except salt) [...] Could be 15 minutes more, 30 minutes, or even an hour. Eventually you get soft, even tasty, beans. Honest!

If this somehow fails, you put them in your mill and turn them into flour. Make lots of stuff with it or just thicken stews with it.

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These people cooked 18 year old beans.
All good.

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These people cooked 18 year old beans.
All good.

CROW
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How many of us have dry beans in sealed tin cans? Do the test on regular beans.
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Do not attempt to cook your old un sealed legumes until you have them at least doubled in size by soaking methods. They will not get soft in cooking. This might mean you have to soak beans in salt water to soften the skin enough to break the skins, rise and soak some more in clear water, bring to boil, turn off and soak some more adding a dash of soda. If still not at least doubled you will have to break the beans down further by grinding or crushing.
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I and another poster both stated from experience they do not even get soft in the pressure cooker after long soaking if they are very old unsealed beans.
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09/21/2020 12:09 AM
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I tried a five year old top ramin not long ago as a test. No way anyone could eat that, if they did surly they would get sick.
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Ramen doesnt store.
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I tried a five year old top ramin not long ago as a test. No way anyone could eat that, if they did surly they would get sick.
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Ramen doesnt store.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77888403


Ramen noodles (mostly) are deep fried prior to packaging, and usually either stored in thin plastic or very thin mylar. Fats (oil) will go rancid after about a year, so they dont store well. Dry noodles on the other hand do last quite a bit longer.
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I tried a five year old top ramin not long ago as a test. No way anyone could eat that, if they did surly they would get sick.
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haha... true.. but a year ago I went to the deer camp with my father in law (his deer camp), and they had things in the fridge and pantry with 2012, and 2014 expiration dates on them. He got mad at me when I kept pointing out old dates, and said be quite and just eat the damn stuff.. Maybe that's why he is 94 LOL... I have some stuff from Auguson and Mountain house, from 2008 but kept in AC closet. Now i'm afraid to go try it. all #10 cans, and then bought some red feather butter and "Yoders" canned chicken chunks in a can back in 2007. God I hope they are still good.
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I tried a five year old top ramin not long ago as a test. No way anyone could eat that, if they did surly they would get sick.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67789290


haha... true.. but a year ago I went to the deer camp with my father in law (his deer camp), and they had things in the fridge and pantry with 2012, and 2014 expiration dates on them. He got mad at me when I kept pointing out old dates, and said be quite and just eat the damn stuff.. Maybe that's why he is 94 LOL... I have some stuff from Auguson and Mountain house, from 2008 but kept in AC closet. Now i'm afraid to go try it. all #10 cans, and then bought some red feather butter and "Yoders" canned chicken chunks in a can back in 2007. God I hope they are still good.
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If you do try them let us know how it goes. Hats off to your Dad, wow 94 that must make you at least 30 LOL.
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Thank you for posting this OP as a reminder to check on food supplies! I just got through transferring all my preps to my boyfriend’s house. We sampled some 10-15 year old storable food and here’s our findings. We made sure to smell everything before we ate it.

*Mountain House grilled chicken with rib meat and mashed potatoes. This was my least favorite but still totally edible. Just make sure you have some condiments to liven it up.

*Mountain House Blueberry Cheesecake. This was pretty awesome but way too sweet. It will be great to trade with the sugar addicted masses!

*Sopakco MRE Cajun rice with sausage and beans. This had some major creole kick to it. I was surprised how moist and flavorful this was.

*Sopakco MRE Beef Ravioli. This one was the best in terms of flavor and freshness. I couldn’t believe that 10 year old cooked beef could taste this good.

*Bega Canned Cheese. This was remarkably good too. Would go great with the bread below.

*B&M Brown Bread in a can. This was another great one. You can definitely taste the molasses in this, but pretty awesome. I caught my boyfriend toasting the leftovers on Sunday for a PB&J sandwich.

Neither one of us had a bad reaction to this food. It’s probably better than what they are serving at McDonald’s these days, anyways!

We are very happy with our findings and grateful we don’t have to throw anything out!

Blessings and Godspeed everyone!
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My new 10 tray all stainless steel dehydrator will arrive tomorrow.
[link to www.amazon.com (secure)]

I don't like plastic dehydrators.
And this thing is huge. First thing I do is to make paprika. Then its time to dry tomatoes and the rest of the peppers.

BTW: Paprika is an excellent source of Vitamin C.
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Nothing beats a freeze dryer but they are expensive!

Here is one of the most popular home freeze dryers, 2.9K USD.

[link to harvestright.com (secure)]
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I tried a five year old top ramin not long ago as a test. No way anyone could eat that, if they did surly they would get sick.
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Ramen doesnt store.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77888403

That's because there is a thin layer of oil covering the noodles.
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Not being the least bit religious, but I was wondering the other day how they stored grains in the BC era. I was thinking about the old story where Joseph had a dream about a famine and they stored grains for 7 years in preparation of the famine and saved the people. What all did they store, how did they store it and how much did they store to save so many people?
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I'm a good Catholic. Joseph interpreted the Pharaoh's dream. There would be 7 excellent harvests then 7 years of drought. So Pharaoh had food stored during the good years. I think it was mostly grains and Egypt grew wheat mostly. They stored things off the ground in a mud brick thing I have no idea what is called. Its about ten feet by ten feet by ten feet high. He would have had row after row of these things. They ate a lot of bread back then.
 Quoting: Doctor Congo


They had real bread then.
Not the shit we call bread today.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79389046


I did an experiment with commercial bread lately. Evidently it lasts indefinitely now. I kept it 4 months past expiration AND THE SHIT DIDNT MOLD. The last month I left the bag open...still no mold. Tortillas, same same.
Havn't eaten store-bought bread since.
 Quoting: wingnut1234

If even the mold doesn't want it... it can't be very good!

Buy your bread in whole/natural food stores, and preferably sourdough bread.
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You think food designed to last 25 years is gonna taste good?
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I ate some rattlesnake the other day. Too many fucking bones.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77745041

But a lot of prime rib!

Apparently it tastes like chicken.

rockon
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New to this?
First is 1200 to 3000 calories per day. apx 450,000 a year.

Pantry full of what you eat with extra attention to canned meats and fats and oils. Coconut is a good one it keeps longer.

Long term BASIC food rice beans grains pasta ect.
Cheapest almost store bought is the Mormons store house they have many storehouses and you need to pick it up as shipping 600 pounds is a large cost.
It is canned in #10 cans most if properly stored @65d or less! Have a shelf life of 30+ years. and cost about $1 per pound.

Recently added a year for the mother in law of 450,000 cals of BASIC long term food from providentliving.org and picked it up a few miles away from home. in a small ford ranger w tool box on it filled the bed 17 cases with 6 ea # 10 cans in each filled the bed apx 600 pounds of rice beans oats and pasta.
It cost Apx $600 for 600 pounds that is $1 a pound.

I live in SoCal and have a cold storage room that stays @63d f built of large rocks a food ish thick. has a small ac that runs when needed.

Some words of wisdom:

Occasionally people speculate about possible disasters, which speculation engenders fear and can cause members to become caught up in emergency preparedness efforts that are not only costly but go beyond the basics consistently taught by the First Presidency...We continue to encourage members to store sufficient food, clothing, and, where possible, fuel for at least one year. We have not laid down an exact formula for what should be stored. However, we suggest that members concentrate on essential foods that sustain life, such as grains, legumes, cooking oil, powdered milk, salt, sugar or honey, and water. Most families can achieve and maintain this basic level of preparedness. The decision to do more than this rests with the individual. We encourage you to follow this counsel with the assurance that a people prepared through obedience to the commandments of God need not fear.
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I would recommend to apply KISS. Stock up on staples, raw and uncooked. I don't really want premade stuff made by some for profit company that was sold as "survival food".

Is the company still around even anymore? And how long was the company in operation?

A lot of this prepper stuff being sold is garbage and they don't care because the company will be dissolved before any long term food goes bad.
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Pre-made really comes in handy if you’re going long periods of time without power. Especially in winter-no one wants to be cooking outside in that. You’re going to need a method of cooking indoors for extended time without power so probably invest in shit ton of sternos or propane indoor cooktops. If you have a year’s supply of food, going to need a year’s supply of cooking fuel.
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Hey here’s a tip for people looking for just straight canned meats- it’s not always easy to find canned shredded chicken, pork, and beef but I find that almost all Dollar Tree’s carry big cans of shredded chicken and beef and most Dollar Generals Carey canned shredded pork. I’ve sampled them and they all taste decent but you’ll want some barbecue sauce or something to dress it up.





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