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Have you ever considered what "parasitism" is as a concept?...if not, I think you really should...

 
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Have you ever considered what "parasitism" is as a concept?...if not, I think you really should...
For the record.

I believe that we can not adequately understand our reality, without understanding the concept of "parasitism"....which is much more than most of us are aware of:

Classified in biology in the triune; {Predator, Symbiote, Parasite} — thus being an evolutionary quality.
This triune lies in the natural fabric of physicality, biology, and psyche, and its manifestation within species is observable in all of the many life forms we know of.

These qualities also lie at the foundation of how we organize society. In this light parasitism is a strategy and a completely natural way to extract energy. This is why science talks about "intelligent parasites", as it reflects the three fundamental strategies in the process of evolution: Individualism, Collectivism, and Parasitism (expressed as commensalism, mutualism, and parasitism)

"Parasitism is essential for life. Life emerged as a consequence of parasitism at the molecular level, and intracellular parasitism created evolutive events that allowed species to diversify." (Parasitism, Araujo et al.)


It is not only a set of biological rules. Parasitism is also a part of our psychic fabric, and as such an archetype — that according to Jung et al. has agency. It has a place in our consciousness and its basic pattern is printed into the collective subconscious. Parasitism prefers the shadows, the less the host is aware the better. Parasitism is an expert in stealth and distortion. To avoid discovery.

The U-set {Individual, Group, Parasite} is in a constant interactive process and never in perfect equilibrium, however as the central dynamic is equilibrium, corrections must happen.

The overall raison d’etre for Parasitism seems to be to challenge the status quo, to probe and test the host’s defenses:

The parasite is an exciter. Far from transforming a system, changing its nature, its form, its elements, its relations and its pathways the parasite makes it change states differentially. It inclines it. It makes the equilibrium of the energetic distribution fluctuate. It dopes it. It irritates it. It inflames it. Often this inclination has no effect. But it can produce gigantic ones by chain reactions or reproduction.” (Michel Serres, The Parasite)

Parasitism takes advantage of the blindsides and weak defenses. It is a constant challenge and has a very important role in keeping the societal immune-system (i.e the political- and institutional system) on its toes and in perpetual development.

It is easy to see the natural algorithms behind the triune elements, where Individualism favors aggregation, Collectivism favors replication and Parasitism favors intrusion and attachment.

Anyone observing society, humans, nature and our various modes of interaction will easily be able to see and distinct these qualities, but less so in terms of Parasitism that rather remains unseen — and that is why the scientific facts presented here (or contemplation hereof) will be novel to most people.

Honestly - have you ever, before reading this, considered what "parasitism" is as a concept? Did you learn about it in school or via media?

As stated, parasitism is something really huge and very important, something that is akin to collectivism and individualism - of which you have heard plenty.....but not so of parasitism. Why is that? Why is it subdued? ....well, because parasitism. Beautiful in its crisp logic, but deeply detrimental to the host.

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I've thought about it ...


as an ecological term
and as an economical term ...


when we are calling people or groups parasites we are easily entering on dangerous grounds ...

but, one could say that the relationship between the Main Street and the Wall Street is a Host-Parasite relationship



but your reference work seems very interesting ... the philosopher's name was vaguely familiar but I haven't read it ...
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I've thought about it ...


as an ecological term
and as an economical term ...


when we are calling people or groups parasites we are easily entering on dangerous grounds ...

but, one could say that the relationship between the Main Street and the Wall Street is a Host-Parasite relationship



but your reference work seems very interesting ... the philosopher's name was vaguely familiar but I haven't read it ...
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Thanks. Agree that resorting to calling individuals parasites is completely idiotic. Parasitism is a program, not a person or group. We all incorporate all three archetypes.

In terms of the economy, "extraction" is perhaps a better word, and covers the comonality with parasitism, but they should not be confused.

When we contemplate these matters, we sow deeper understanding.
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A Mind Parasite Encounter in Dune

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A Mind Parasite Encounter in Dune

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thanks for the link


Colin Wilson, Gurdjieff, Castaneda ... brings back memories






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A Mind Parasite Encounter in Dune

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Indeed an interesting read, that also shows how "parasitism" is archetypical.

William S. Burroughs wrote about Colin Wilsons book and stated that:

"There is considerable inferential evidence to indicate the actual existence of such a parasitic instance as this book postulates. "
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It's akin to the essential culture of "hacking"; finding the weak spots, opening a door, getting in.

Depending on the hacker's intention, the outcome can be malicious (entry used for extraction) or benevolent (entry closed after discovery).
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You mean something like "Parasite Weekly"...I'm afraid not, but here is a link to an article on the most successful biological parasite ever: [link to medium.com (secure)]
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Paul Levy: "A parasite of a different order"

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I really enjoy your educational posts! Thank you!

TG = hive mind = satanism

I believe it’s what keeps disparate groups on the same page. We blame secret societies, Jesuit’s, the RCC, etc, etc. but in reality we’re dealing with an ancient (probably engineered) mind controlling parasite.

Fascinating subject!
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I really enjoy your educational posts! Thank you!

TG = hive mind = satanism

I believe it’s what keeps disparate groups on the same page. We blame secret societies, Jesuit’s, the RCC, etc, etc. but in reality we’re dealing with an ancient (probably engineered) mind controlling parasite.

Fascinating subject!
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bump Its simple. To avoid discovery it dumbs you down.If a parasite disables your curiosity, it makes you prone to dogma, because it relieves the induced angst. Disabling your curiosity is done by keeping you in a state of subtle fear.If it can influence your amygdala it can influence your decisions, and so it does.

...many things can arise on that basis, as it gives plenty of room to dogma...both transparent and opaque. Often, dogma kills.

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The invisible worm.
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In the howling storm.
Has found out thy bed
Of crimson joy,
And his dark secret love
Does thy life destroy.

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Maleria
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For the record.

The “inverse” version of events and concepts ofte produce curious novelty.

If we – as a thought experiment – look at Covid in its inverse version, it would come out something like this:

“a benevolent virus that is antagonistic to something that is infecting us.To prevent it from spreading, this something locks us down”.
 

Inverse definition: reversed in position, order, direction, or tendency.

Food for thought.
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A Mind Parasite Encounter in Dune

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Indeed an interesting read, that also shows how "parasitism" is archetypical.

William S. Burroughs wrote about Colin Wilsons book and stated that:

"There is considerable inferential evidence to indicate the actual existence of such a parasitic instance as this book postulates. "
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I read Burroughs first, as a teen, then Castaneda, and Wilson later ...


Castaneda was a high quality hoaxter with some intriguing concepts .... check the Flyers/Voladores ...

and practices I was in to .... only later I found out that he was ripping off Gurjieff
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All nice and dandy until the parasites try to kill their hosts. Their achilles heel is that the parasites need to find a new host in order to survive or else they also perish.

There are no other suitable hosts in the Universe. When the universo dies, all the parasites go with it.

Food for thought.
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I've thought about it ...


as an ecological term
and as an economical term ...


when we are calling people or groups parasites we are easily entering on dangerous grounds ...

but, one could say that the relationship between the Main Street and the Wall Street is a Host-Parasite relationship



but your reference work seems very interesting ... the philosopher's name was vaguely familiar but I haven't read it ...
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On even more dangerous ground to conflate things like 'mutual' with 'parasite' too.

Something about this feels like an NLP exercise meant to mind fuck.
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I really enjoy your educational posts! Thank you!

TG = hive mind = satanism

I believe it’s what keeps disparate groups on the same page. We blame secret societies, Jesuit’s, the RCC, etc, etc. but in reality we’re dealing with an ancient (probably engineered) mind controlling parasite.

Fascinating subject!
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bump Its simple. To avoid discovery it dumbs you down.If a parasite disables your curiosity, it makes you prone to dogma, because it relieves the induced angst. Disabling your curiosity is done by keeping you in a state of subtle fear.If it can influence your amygdala it can influence your decisions, and so it does.

...many things can arise on that basis, as it gives plenty of room to dogma...both transparent and opaque. Often, dogma kills.
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Seems reasonable, if thats more it then yea.
The worst part is the dissonance and splitting that creates.
The dissonance builds until (narcissistic) self value/esteem injury and exhaustion takes hold, because on the hand the person knows, feels something is wrong, the other the person must not recognise its wrong, which brings the splitting, the person they know themselves to be, and who they are actually in total.
This is also core to value weighting in a Neitzchian slave morality. Why being good is the not just good its saintly, angelic. Why maskifa get violent. Same pattern.
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All nice and dandy until the parasites try to kill their hosts. Their achilles heel is that the parasites need to find a new host in order to survive or else they also perish.

There are no other suitable hosts in the Universe. When the universo dies, all the parasites go with it.

Food for thought.
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True. Not all, but some eventually kills the host.
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I've thought about it ...


as an ecological term
and as an economical term ...


when we are calling people or groups parasites we are easily entering on dangerous grounds ...

but, one could say that the relationship between the Main Street and the Wall Street is a Host-Parasite relationship



but your reference work seems very interesting ... the philosopher's name was vaguely familiar but I haven't read it ...
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On even more dangerous ground to conflate things like 'mutual' with 'parasite' too.

Something about this feels like an NLP exercise meant to mind fuck.
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.....I'l leave manipulation to others, all I have to offer is facts and conjecture that can serve as basis for building an informed opinion.
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All nice and dandy until the parasites try to kill their hosts. Their achilles heel is that the parasites need to find a new host in order to survive or else they also perish.

There are no other suitable hosts in the Universe. When the universo dies, all the parasites go with it.

Food for thought.
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True. Not all, but some eventually kills the host.
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Bloodlust and blood-letting

Also mirrored in human rituals.

In an Absolute sense, One might seek synergy with parasite(s); trusting in the Way, the Path, Love.

In the end, the parasite must 'get' and the host must 'let.' And infested 'russian dolls' are thusly created.

From that perspective, accommodating the treachery of a 'symbiote' appears foolish. Gaining knowledge at such a price pulls a host away from duty to Self and self-protection. The parasentient's survival is driven as is that of the host, via externalization of the internal and vice versa; the force/yod, and environmental conditions dictate life cycles. Yet bloodshed of any kind is abominable.

Is the parasentient exhibiting love in consumption or providing the word and its excrement to it's newfound manipulable dominium?

Protozoans, bacteria, virii can live in macophages. Each parasentient subsisting for a time. Each one with info/data/energy i/o. Their word is taint to a human. From 'open sesame' to enter a cell to mRNA delivery in nuclei; adaptation and reproduction. Minions.

Yet the most advanced protozoan could signal the host of its infections.

While the hornet shoves its offspring into the bee's abdomen.
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Parasitism is an intelligent archetype then employs a consistent and precise logic that is identifiable. It's universal and necessary.

Hosts are free to fight it, but obviously have to detect it first...
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Actually its spelled out in the Oscar winning cautionary tale warning about "servant" class tutors, drivers, chefs

Parasites who live on the cash flow excess of upper middle class whites, scrub their toilet, walk the dog, mow grass

but what happens to payday when whites can no longer make payroll for staff?
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The invisible worm.
That flies in the night
In the howling storm.
Has found out thy bed
Of crimson joy,
And his dark secret love
Does thy life destroy.

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Individuals have been called parasites for more than two thousand years. Parasites were among the stock characters used by the ancient Roman playwright Plautus, along with running slaves, escorts, and children left to die of exposure but rescued and nurtured in secret to proved a surprising plot twist when they surface as adults.
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Your information doesn’t get anywhere near the attention it deserves.

Just another symptom I suppose. :)
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