Antifa is fascist, not anarchist | |
Bee Free
(OP) User ID: 78028535 09/02/2020 07:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Anarchists reject authoritarian politics on the premise that interference with individual rights through violence or coercion is absolutely wrong. Anarchist philosophy is grounded on the principle that group participation is legitimate only if voluntary. Anarchists value individual rights to life and liberty (regardless of race, income, belief, or social status) as inherent and deny the ‘greater good’ has any reasonable authority to take those rights away. Anarchism is the opposite of Antifa. Fascists began defining anarchy as ‘chaos’ to scare people away from anti-authoritarian ideas. What fascists lack in reasoning they try and make up for in their propaganda (just like Antifa). |
Nerve03
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 60601561 United States 09/02/2020 07:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Antifa practices fascism, not anarchism. Fascists believe in authoritarian political systems that value entitlements of the group over the rights of the individual (just like Antifa). Fascists believe violence is a legitimate means of enforcing political ideology and use organized terror to counter opposition (just like Antifa). Fascists believe in elitism over equality and measure human worth and dignity in terms of ideological allegiance rather than inherent values such as life and liberty (just like Antifa). Fascists use race and religion as factors in determining individual rights (just like Antifa). Quoting: Bee Free Well said, Definitely orwellian double speak. Bad is good, wrong is right, fascist is antifascist |
Bee Free
(OP) User ID: 78028535 09/02/2020 07:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No they are not fascists but both are totalitarian. Quoting: Nerve03 They are communist totalitarians. Fascism has almost no meaning as it is basically only described in a couple writings by Mussolini. Just as national socialism is not fascism. Fascism is broadly discussed in philosophical discourse. Antifa may not properly conform to fascism as a political label, but their beliefs and practices do. |
Jake
User ID: 77849624 United States 09/02/2020 07:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | By their own definition, ANTIFA is fascist [link to www.americanthinker.com (secure)] Evil controls the ignorant... Climate change is a hoax so is the vax you have been fear-porned into compliance! Definition Satan from the bible: Satan (Rev 12:7) exercising his subtle (indirect) impact on heathen governments (powers) – i.e. accomplishing his hellish agenda from "behind the scenes." |
Nerve03
User ID: 79334530 United States 09/02/2020 07:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No they are not fascists but both are totalitarian. Quoting: Nerve03 They are communist totalitarians. Fascism has almost no meaning as it is basically only described in a couple writings by Mussolini. Just as national socialism is not fascism. Fascism is broadly discussed in philosophical discourse. Antifa may not properly conform to fascism as a political label, but their beliefs and practices do. No because much of fascism is about the nation serving the state. It's also very much about fetishising strength and beauty and militarism. That's why national socialism is also not fascism. National socialism is about the state serving the nation. Both are the opposite of antifa. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79335749 United States 09/02/2020 07:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Antifa practices fascism, not anarchism. Fascists believe in authoritarian political systems that value entitlements of the group over the rights of the individual (just like Antifa). Fascists believe violence is a legitimate means of enforcing political ideology and use organized terror to counter opposition (just like Antifa). Fascists believe in elitism over equality and measure human worth and dignity in terms of ideological allegiance rather than inherent values such as life and liberty (just like Antifa). Fascists use race and religion as factors in determining individual rights (just like Antifa). Quoting: Bee Free you're an idiot Trump wanting to stay in office for more then his two terms is fascist dumbass. Trump trying to shut down any source of news that doesn't bow down to his state run propaganda is fascist. Trump defunding democratic states just becasue they won't bow to his demands is fascist. Learn the definition of "fascist" you uneducated fucking retard. Probably a Russian Troll... we all know how uneducated and STUPID Putin's Russian Troll farm is. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 32257018 United States 09/02/2020 07:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Antifa practices fascism, not anarchism. Fascists believe in authoritarian political systems that value entitlements of the group over the rights of the individual (just like Antifa). Fascists believe violence is a legitimate means of enforcing political ideology and use organized terror to counter opposition (just like Antifa). Fascists believe in elitism over equality and measure human worth and dignity in terms of ideological allegiance rather than inherent values such as life and liberty (just like Antifa). Fascists use race and religion as factors in determining individual rights (just like Antifa). Quoting: Bee Free You have no idea of what you speak.You are a classic moran! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 32257018 United States 09/02/2020 07:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Antifa practices fascism, not anarchism. Fascists believe in authoritarian political systems that value entitlements of the group over the rights of the individual (just like Antifa). Fascists believe violence is a legitimate means of enforcing political ideology and use organized terror to counter opposition (just like Antifa). Fascists believe in elitism over equality and measure human worth and dignity in terms of ideological allegiance rather than inherent values such as life and liberty (just like Antifa). Fascists use race and religion as factors in determining individual rights (just like Antifa). Quoting: Bee Free you're an idiot Trump wanting to stay in office for more then his two terms is fascist dumbass. Trump trying to shut down any source of news that doesn't bow down to his state run propaganda is fascist. Trump defunding democratic states just becasue they won't bow to his demands is fascist. Learn the definition of "fascist" you uneducated fucking retard. Probably a Russian Troll... we all know how uneducated and STUPID Putin's Russian Troll farm is. |
Bee Free
(OP) User ID: 78028535 09/02/2020 08:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Liberals who support the BLM movement are complicit in the terror and violence. Everything they denounce about police injustice they laud when BLM/Antifa is doing it. The gullibility and hypocrisy is astonishing. And they’re ruining things for those genuinely fighting to strike down unjust laws. It’s obnoxious. |
Bee Free
(OP) User ID: 78028535 09/02/2020 08:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No they are not fascists but both are totalitarian. Quoting: Nerve03 They are communist totalitarians. Fascism has almost no meaning as it is basically only described in a couple writings by Mussolini. Just as national socialism is not fascism. Fascism is broadly discussed in philosophical discourse. Antifa may not properly conform to fascism as a political label, but their beliefs and practices do. No because much of fascism is about the nation serving the state. It's also very much about fetishising strength and beauty and militarism. That's why national socialism is also not fascism. National socialism is about the state serving the nation. Both are the opposite of antifa. Statists use the rhetoric of national socialism to promote their own authoritarian agenda. Where fictional entities like corporations enjoy the same status and rights as the individual citizen, the state can serve interests of monopolistic powers while claiming to be serving the interests of the nation. They can find a way to enforce their agenda using any popular ideological rhetoric. And they do. |
Bee Free
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 32257018 United States 09/02/2020 11:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No they are not fascists but both are totalitarian. Quoting: Nerve03 They are communist totalitarians. Fascism has almost no meaning as it is basically only described in a couple writings by Mussolini. Just as national socialism is not fascism. Fascism is broadly discussed in philosophical discourse. Antifa may not properly conform to fascism as a political label, but their beliefs and practices do. No because much of fascism is about the nation serving the state. It's also very much about fetishising strength and beauty and militarism. That's why national socialism is also not fascism. National socialism is about the state serving the nation. Both are the opposite of antifa. |
Nerve03
User ID: 79334530 United States 09/02/2020 11:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No they are not fascists but both are totalitarian. Quoting: Nerve03 They are communist totalitarians. Fascism has almost no meaning as it is basically only described in a couple writings by Mussolini. Just as national socialism is not fascism. Fascism is broadly discussed in philosophical discourse. Antifa may not properly conform to fascism as a political label, but their beliefs and practices do. No because much of fascism is about the nation serving the state. It's also very much about fetishising strength and beauty and militarism. That's why national socialism is also not fascism. National socialism is about the state serving the nation. Both are the opposite of antifa. Statists use the rhetoric of national socialism to promote their own authoritarian agenda. Where fictional entities like corporations enjoy the same status and rights as the individual citizen, the state can serve interests of monopolistic powers while claiming to be serving the interests of the nation. They can find a way to enforce their agenda using any popular ideological rhetoric. And they do. Capitalism has the same problem, except capitalism doesn't recognize the nation at all. Capitalism ONLY cares about corporations. |
Bee Free
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Bee Free
(OP) User ID: 78028535 09/02/2020 11:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Bee Free Fascism is broadly discussed in philosophical discourse. Antifa may not properly conform to fascism as a political label, but their beliefs and practices do. No because much of fascism is about the nation serving the state. It's also very much about fetishising strength and beauty and militarism. That's why national socialism is also not fascism. National socialism is about the state serving the nation. Both are the opposite of antifa. Statists use the rhetoric of national socialism to promote their own authoritarian agenda. Where fictional entities like corporations enjoy the same status and rights as the individual citizen, the state can serve interests of monopolistic powers while claiming to be serving the interests of the nation. They can find a way to enforce their agenda using any popular ideological rhetoric. And they do. Capitalism has the same problem, except capitalism doesn't recognize the nation at all. Capitalism ONLY cares about corporations. Capitalism represents a statist market. There are almost zero empirical examples of a free market society. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77353237 France 09/02/2020 11:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Antifa practices fascism, not anarchism. Fascists believe in authoritarian political systems that value entitlements of the group over the rights of the individual (just like Antifa). Fascists believe violence is a legitimate means of enforcing political ideology and use organized terror to counter opposition (just like Antifa). Fascists believe in elitism over equality and measure human worth and dignity in terms of ideological allegiance rather than inherent values such as life and liberty (just like Antifa). Fascists use race and religion as factors in determining individual rights (just like Antifa). Quoting: Bee Free The Dinesh D'Souza curry nosh shrine is down the hall and to the left. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77353237 France 09/02/2020 11:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No they are not fascists but both are totalitarian. Quoting: Nerve03 They are communist totalitarians. Fascism has almost no meaning as it is basically only described in a couple writings by Mussolini. Just as national socialism is not fascism. Fascism is broadly discussed in philosophical discourse. Antifa may not properly conform to fascism as a political label, but their beliefs and practices do. No because much of fascism is about the nation serving the state. It's also very much about fetishising strength and beauty and militarism. That's why national socialism is also not fascism. National socialism is about the state serving the nation. Both are the opposite of antifa. Yes NS extols and exalts the nation (volk) even to the point of the death of the state if it does not conform. |
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