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You All Ever Heard Of This New Tech? Self Charging Batteries

 
SilverSurfer

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If this is for real... it could change a lot of things. Sounds a bit too good to be true but if it is... couldn't really come at a better time. We need all the help we can get lol.


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California company NDB says its nano-diamond batteries will absolutely upend the energy equation, acting like tiny nuclear generators. They will blow any energy density comparison out of the water, lasting anywhere from a decade to 28,000 years without ever needing a charge. They will offer higher power density than lithium-ion. They will be nigh-on indestructible and totally safe in an electric car crash. And in some applications, like electric cars, they stand to be considerably cheaper than current lithium-ion packs despite their huge advantages.


The heart of each cell is a small piece of recycled nuclear waste. NDB uses graphite nuclear reactor parts that have absorbed radiation from nuclear fuel rods and have themselves become radioactive. Untreated, it's high-grade nuclear waste: dangerous, difficult and expensive to store, with a very long half-life.


This graphite is rich in the carbon-14 radioisotope, which undergoes beta decay into nitrogen, releasing an anti-neutrino and a beta decay electron in the process. NDB takes this graphite, purifies it and uses it to create tiny carbon-14 diamonds. The diamond structure acts as a semiconductor and heat sink, collecting the charge and transporting it out. Completely encasing the radioactive carbon-14 diamond is a layer of cheap, non-radioactive, lab-created carbon-12 diamond, which contains the energetic particles, prevents radiation leaks and acts as a super-hard protective and tamper-proof layer.

To create a battery cell, several layers of this nano-diamond material are stacked up and stored with a tiny integrated circuit board and a small supercapacitor to collect, store and instantly distribute the charge. NDB says it'll conform to any shape or standard, including AA, AAA, 18650, 2170 or all manner of custom sizes.


Radiation levels from a cell, NDB tells us, will be less than the radiation levels produced by the human body itself, making it totally safe for use in a variety of applications. At the small scale, these could include things like pacemaker batteries and other electronic implants, where their long lifespan will save the wearer from replacement surgeries. They could also be placed directly onto circuit boards, delivering power for the lifespan of a device

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Thanks. If it is the real deal, it would be a game changer
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Smells scammy. I could be wrong.
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Fishing for investors.

Aka corporate spam.
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Smells scammy. I could be wrong.
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I honestly don't know. It sounds promising but I had never heard of it before. Thats why I was wondering if anyone here had. Smells a bit too good to be true. But also, is there something to it?
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Sounds great, I hope it works.
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Heard about it the other day.
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I bet being made out of diamond and all the processing it takes to make one will make it expensive as all hell. If they last as long as they say they do, then sales are finite, meaning they're going to be expensive in order to recoup the costs of manufacturing.

I hope they make the circuitry accessible so that components can be replaced. Otherwise you have a worthless battery sitting around for 28000 years.
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it says they gonna sell them in two years, if it can be used for some sort of portable sammich making robot, it will totally change the nature of portable sammich making robots!

gmmas-now
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radioactive material is tightly controlled by gov't authority. The idea as described makes almost no sense, I suspect it is all a bunch of hooey.
tiny carbon-14 diamonds- carbon 14 is for dating ancient organic material, not running devices.
This all sounds like it was written by an ignorant person trying to sound high tech.
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And when the fuel cell for your pacemaker goes critical:

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A battery made from nuclear waste?!
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Heard about this design a few years ago. 2v each stacked in series. How exciting it would be to see this come to life. [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

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Sounds like bullshit!
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I bet being made out of diamond and all the processing it takes to make one will make it expensive as all hell. If they last as long as they say they do, then sales are finite, meaning they're going to be expensive in order to recoup the costs of manufacturing.

I hope they make the circuitry accessible so that components can be replaced. Otherwise you have a worthless battery sitting around for 28000 years.
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That's what I heard too. A diamond. And it does need to be recharged every month in the early stages. I wonder where you heard it.
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Nuclear batteries? Yep, they were talking about those a decade ago.

Liquid Nuclear Battery That Has the Potential to Reach One Million Times Chemical Battery Power Density (2009)
[link to www.nextbigfuture.com (secure)]

They first tried using solid crystals, but radioactive decay made those brittle and ineffective in short time, so they switched to liquid crystals a decade ago.

Some variant or another of those is undoubtedly already used in (military) satellites, and will never be available for civilian use... because you can't have completely (as in decades-long) energy-independent civilians in a tightly controlled cattle farm... er, "modern society".
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This is still super also.
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it says they gonna sell them in two years, if it can be used for some sort of portable sammich making robot, it will totally change the nature of portable sammich making robots!

gmmas-now
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Aka a sex bot.
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Nuclear batteries? Yep, they were talking about those a decade ago.

Liquid Nuclear Battery That Has the Potential to Reach One Million Times Chemical Battery Power Density (2009)
[link to www.nextbigfuture.com (secure)]

They first tried using solid crystals, but radioactive decay made those brittle and ineffective in short time, so they switched to liquid crystals a decade ago.

Some variant or another of those is undoubtedly already used in (military) satellites, and will never be available for civilian use... because you can't have completely (as in decades-long) energy-independent civilians in a tightly controlled cattle farm... er, "modern society".
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Pretty sure NASA used a nuclear battery aboard it's latest Mars mission..
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Lost me at tiny circuit board.
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Oh yeah wups...
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For discovery channel cameras exploring deserts then.
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P and N junctions do this already~?
two dissimilar metals

what could possibly go wrong with inhaled graphite
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Wow!
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Special documentaires missions in disaster areas or what not, and then self charging wind and solar camera...,
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Smells scammy. I could be wrong.
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I honestly don't know. It sounds promising but I had never heard of it before. Thats why I was wondering if anyone here had. Smells a bit too good to be true. But also, is there something to it?
 Quoting: SilverSurfer


It’s a scam. Thanks anyway.
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Smells scammy. I could be wrong.
 Quoting: Free me


I honestly don't know. It sounds promising but I had never heard of it before. Thats why I was wondering if anyone here had. Smells a bit too good to be true. But also, is there something to it?
 Quoting: SilverSurfer


The Japanese had a self charging capacitor battery for their radios in WW2, John Hutchinson invented an small self charging earth battery, this is different and promising, it's got useful potential.
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I'd check the P.E.S. wiki to see what they think of it.
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Vaporware
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So that's what all the depleted uranium is for.
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