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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79192224 United States 08/18/2020 12:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The unexplained death of my brother in law (updated: county took possession over the body today) I agreement with the majority of posters here. Seems like a heart attack. Also possible is a pulmonary embolism. It will be tough for you not knowing the cause. Again, my sincere condolences |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75915098 Mexico 08/18/2020 12:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The unexplained death of my brother in law (updated: county took possession over the body today) I apologize for the massive wall of text right off the bat, but I know GLP has some great folks here and just thought maybe I could get some kind of answers here. Quoting: Rorschach Watchmen No need to apologize. Sorry for your loss. I concur with others that it was heart related. Many times the blockage or problem appears days before as precisely and upper stomach problem/discomfort. I would have asked for an autopsy. Peace to you and yours |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1484809 United States 08/18/2020 12:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The unexplained death of my brother in law (updated: county took possession over the body today) Sorry for your loss. You have a good time line of events. "We spent all week in the sun." This may be were the problem started. Those in the know on GLp know to stay out of the sun. Lots of sudden drop by roofers etc. The heat outside is bad juju, UV on steroids. Heart symptoms mimic stomach trouble,"pressure" key word. How much Cardiac involvement was pre-existing? Unknown. As a family member i believe that you can request an autopsy. An autopsy may have more questions than answers and the first thing I would want to know is the Covid 19 status. Medical people are over worked in all areas. You get the idea Thread: September doom = Gigantic heat waves, and 2nd wave of Covid in Europe (Page 2) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78645200 United States 08/18/2020 12:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The unexplained death of my brother in law (updated: county took possession over the body today) I’m so sorry to hear this opee. I know the huge hole ithat this leaves in the heart. It’s just terrible to lose a young life suddenly. I still cry years later from my brother in-law taking he’s own life. And I cried hearing of your loss. I didn’t do the counseling thing as I’m an old school (tough guy) that cried in secret and kept it all inside. And years later I still cry because all the pain is still inside. May you all find peace and acceptance and recover from the shock that this brings. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 2414743 United States 08/18/2020 12:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The unexplained death of my brother in law (updated: county took possession over the body today) ... Quoting: Constant Parad0x You never saw someone fry an egg on the sidewalk? When I was a kid, before they had all this "cool deck" and whatnot they had to spray down the concrete around the pool every so often or it would get so hot it would burn your feet. I remember people wearing sandals and leaving them at the edge of the pool for when they got out. We used to steal each other's sandals and throw them in the pool. Yeah, I have seen it, so what? Eggs fry at 130 deg. which would be right in alignment with the time-honored standard- 100 deg. out, add 30 and you have yerself an egg-fry. 195 is like 15 deg. shy of BOILING water. about a 60-70 deg. difference and should not be happening according to centuries of observational data/common knowledge/sense. I'm on board with the other guy... geomagnetic field is failing- bigtime. UV radiation is pounding the Earth like never before seen, at least in the last 1000 years or so (likely longer). I dunno maybe. Sidewalks can get significantly hotter than 130F. Same thing with cars. In the early 90s I had a Boombox That I left in the back seat and it actually melted. I don't think there is anything different going on here. More likely nobody was scrutinizing it before. I live in the Desert. I'm all kinds of acquainted with shit that holds up in the sun and what doesn't. No. I have been all over the world working outdoors and backpacking my entire life- the sun is significantly more 'intense'- I will have a visible 'terminator line' running my whole torso (half tan/red- half not) after like 5-10 min. with my shirt off- I used to be able to spend hours outside once I had a base tan- heatstokes are through the roof at hospitals. The UV index only went to 10 until like 2007, now it goes to...? You aren't supposed to even leave the house over 8 (at least that used to be the standard) it is hitting 18 along the equator today- [link to www.temis.nl] |
dodger007
User ID: 77690112 United States 08/18/2020 12:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The unexplained death of my brother in law (updated: county took possession over the body today) Sunday night after my wife’s annual family reunion my brother in law returned home around 2 pm. He had mentioned not feeling good and said he felt pressure in his upper stomach, almost chest area. He said it felt like he had to burp, or called it gas bubbles. He laid down for a bit before packing up his stuff. Once he arrived home he took a shower and fell asleep until 730. Quoting: Rorschach Watchmen After his significant other returned home they ate some Thai food and around 9pm he started complaining again about his stomach pressure, he attempted to throw up because he thought that would relieve the pressure. He couldn’t, so he laid down and was saying he was hot then cold and having hot flashes. We spent all week in the sun floating rivers and having good times with the fam so I guess he didn’t think much of it. He laid down saying he was tired again and they both fell asleep. His sig other woke up around 12 midnight yesterday early morning to my brother in law making slight movements and groaning, she attempted to wake him up and flipped the light to see Adam having a seizure. She called for his roommate to dial 911. Operator instructed them to attempt CPR while paramedics were on the way. The paramedics arrived and attempted full life saving measures, defibrillation, for 30 mins. Here is where I’m racking my brain and trying to figure their out. The doctor at the hospital told them after 30 mins of life saving that he was too young to call at the scene, keep attempting defib and bring him in. In total he was worked on for 72 mins however they never once found a pulse. My brothers heart never started again. He was 39 After the call to us at 1am we woke up and headed into town, by the time we reached the on ramp the chaplain called us and told us Adam had just passed. We couldn’t understand what happened. We got to the hospital, sat with the body until the dr came in and told us this: “We worked on Adam for 72 mins. We were unable to find a pulse again and called him at the hospital. We have no idea what he died of so we call these unexplained deaths. Most likely the medical examiner won’t ask for an autopsy as well, especially at his age” Especially at his age! So he’s young enough to be brought in and worked on for 72 mins, burns all over my brothers chest from defib, but too old for an autopsy to find out why my brother just went to sleep and never woke up? My wife is shattered, her only full blooded sibling gone at 39. The unknowns are weighing so heavy on my soul right now, this is such a tragedy. The family should insist on an autopsy or they will spend the rest of their lives wondering, if he had a congenital heart condition the rest of the family should know. Sorry for your loss. You can count on America to do the right thing after exhausting every other alternative." Winston Churchill |
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Halfbreedgal User ID: 74537708 United States 08/18/2020 12:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The unexplained death of my brother in law (updated: county took possession over the body today) Sunday night after my wife’s annual family reunion my brother in law returned home around 2 pm. He had mentioned not feeling good and said he felt pressure in his upper stomach, almost chest area. He said it felt like he had to burp, or called it gas bubbles. He laid down for a bit before packing up his stuff. Once he arrived home he took a shower and fell asleep until 730. Quoting: Rorschach Watchmen After his significant other returned home they ate some Thai food and around 9pm he started complaining again about his stomach pressure, he attempted to throw up because he thought that would relieve the pressure. He couldn’t, so he laid down and was saying he was hot then cold and having hot flashes. We spent all week in the sun floating rivers and having good times with the fam so I guess he didn’t think much of it. He laid down saying he was tired again and they both fell asleep. His sig other woke up around 12 midnight yesterday early morning to my brother in law making slight movements and groaning, she attempted to wake him up and flipped the light to see Adam having a seizure. She called for his roommate to dial 911. Operator instructed them to attempt CPR while paramedics were on the way. The paramedics arrived and attempted full life saving measures, defibrillation, for 30 mins. Here is where I’m racking my brain and trying to figure their out. The doctor at the hospital told them after 30 mins of life saving that he was too young to call at the scene, keep attempting defib and bring him in. In total he was worked on for 72 mins however they never once found a pulse. My brothers heart never started again. He was 39 After the call to us at 1am we woke up and headed into town, by the time we reached the on ramp the chaplain called us and told us Adam had just passed. We couldn’t understand what happened. We got to the hospital, sat with the body until the dr came in and told us this: “We worked on Adam for 72 mins. We were unable to find a pulse again and called him at the hospital. We have no idea what he died of so we call these unexplained deaths. Most likely the medical examiner won’t ask for an autopsy as well, especially at his age” Especially at his age! So he’s young enough to be brought in and worked on for 72 mins, burns all over my brothers chest from defib, but too old for an autopsy to find out why my brother just went to sleep and never woke up? My wife is shattered, her only full blooded sibling gone at 39. The unknowns are weighing so heavy on my soul right now, this is such a tragedy. The family should insist on an autopsy or they will spend the rest of their lives wondering, if he had a congenital heart condition the rest of the family should know. Sorry for your loss. This!!! If they won't, hire someone to do it!! Seems very strange they don't plan to |
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The_Meridian
Breshears is Off: Ask Me Why User ID: 76838634 United States 08/18/2020 12:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The unexplained death of my brother in law (updated: county took possession over the body today) Sunday night after my wife’s annual family reunion my brother in law returned home around 2 pm. He had mentioned not feeling good and said he felt pressure in his upper stomach, almost chest area. He said it felt like he had to burp, or called it gas bubbles. He laid down for a bit before packing up his stuff. Once he arrived home he took a shower and fell asleep until 730. Quoting: Rorschach Watchmen After his significant other returned home they ate some Thai food and around 9pm he started complaining again about his stomach pressure, he attempted to throw up because he thought that would relieve the pressure. He couldn’t, so he laid down and was saying he was hot then cold and having hot flashes. We spent all week in the sun floating rivers and having good times with the fam so I guess he didn’t think much of it. He laid down saying he was tired again and they both fell asleep. His sig other woke up around 12 midnight yesterday early morning to my brother in law making slight movements and groaning, she attempted to wake him up and flipped the light to see Adam having a seizure. She called for his roommate to dial 911. Operator instructed them to attempt CPR while paramedics were on the way. The paramedics arrived and attempted full life saving measures, defibrillation, for 30 mins. Here is where I’m racking my brain and trying to figure their out. The doctor at the hospital told them after 30 mins of life saving that he was too young to call at the scene, keep attempting defib and bring him in. In total he was worked on for 72 mins however they never once found a pulse. My brothers heart never started again. He was 39 After the call to us at 1am we woke up and headed into town, by the time we reached the on ramp the chaplain called us and told us Adam had just passed. We couldn’t understand what happened. We got to the hospital, sat with the body until the dr came in and told us this: “We worked on Adam for 72 mins. We were unable to find a pulse again and called him at the hospital. We have no idea what he died of so we call these unexplained deaths. Most likely the medical examiner won’t ask for an autopsy as well, especially at his age” Especially at his age! So he’s young enough to be brought in and worked on for 72 mins, burns all over my brothers chest from defib, but too old for an autopsy to find out why my brother just went to sleep and never woke up? My wife is shattered, her only full blooded sibling gone at 39. The unknowns are weighing so heavy on my soul right now, this is such a tragedy. All of these symptoms right down to the vomiting or wanting to is what I had when I had my heart attack. Your BIL needed stents to open clogged arteries. All the defib in the world will not re-start a heart too blocked to pump oxygen charged blood. Your BIL should've been taken to hospital between 2-9pm. I'm sorry for your loss, I would take legal action on everyone involved. (B)ullshit™ always needs an amplified bullhorn demanding kneeling subservience - or else.- SyncAsFunk The light within me always draws me back to make the dark decision to leave the false counterfeit light. -New Heart |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 73432323 United States 08/18/2020 01:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The unexplained death of my brother in law (updated: county took possession over the body today) Sunday night after my wife’s annual family reunion my brother in law returned home around 2 pm. He had mentioned not feeling good and said he felt pressure in his upper stomach, almost chest area. He said it felt like he had to burp, or called it gas bubbles. He laid down for a bit before packing up his stuff. Once he arrived home he took a shower and fell asleep until 730. Quoting: Rorschach Watchmen After his significant other returned home they ate some Thai food and around 9pm he started complaining again about his stomach pressure, he attempted to throw up because he thought that would relieve the pressure. He couldn’t, so he laid down and was saying he was hot then cold and having hot flashes. We spent all week in the sun floating rivers and having good times with the fam so I guess he didn’t think much of it. He laid down saying he was tired again and they both fell asleep. His sig other woke up around 12 midnight yesterday early morning to my brother in law making slight movements and groaning, she attempted to wake him up and flipped the light to see Adam having a seizure. She called for his roommate to dial 911. Operator instructed them to attempt CPR while paramedics were on the way. The paramedics arrived and attempted full life saving measures, defibrillation, for 30 mins. Here is where I’m racking my brain and trying to figure their out. The doctor at the hospital told them after 30 mins of life saving that he was too young to call at the scene, keep attempting defib and bring him in. In total he was worked on for 72 mins however they never once found a pulse. My brothers heart never started again. He was 39 After the call to us at 1am we woke up and headed into town, by the time we reached the on ramp the chaplain called us and told us Adam had just passed. We couldn’t understand what happened. We got to the hospital, sat with the body until the dr came in and told us this: “We worked on Adam for 72 mins. We were unable to find a pulse again and called him at the hospital. We have no idea what he died of so we call these unexplained deaths. Most likely the medical examiner won’t ask for an autopsy as well, especially at his age” Especially at his age! So he’s young enough to be brought in and worked on for 72 mins, burns all over my brothers chest from defib, but too old for an autopsy to find out why my brother just went to sleep and never woke up? My wife is shattered, her only full blooded sibling gone at 39. The unknowns are weighing so heavy on my soul right now, this is such a tragedy. In 1975 Ohio, good friend of mine had 17 year-old brother drop dead in kitchen, in front of refrigerator, after waking up, and drinking a glass of milk. He was in prime physical condition and was a starting HS football player. |
Rorschach Watchmen
(OP) User ID: 77105561 United States 08/18/2020 01:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The unexplained death of my brother in law (updated: county took possession over the body today) Sunday night after my wife’s annual family reunion my brother in law returned home around 2 pm. He had mentioned not feeling good and said he felt pressure in his upper stomach, almost chest area. He said it felt like he had to burp, or called it gas bubbles. He laid down for a bit before packing up his stuff. Once he arrived home he took a shower and fell asleep until 730. Quoting: Rorschach Watchmen After his significant other returned home they ate some Thai food and around 9pm he started complaining again about his stomach pressure, he attempted to throw up because he thought that would relieve the pressure. He couldn’t, so he laid down and was saying he was hot then cold and having hot flashes. We spent all week in the sun floating rivers and having good times with the fam so I guess he didn’t think much of it. He laid down saying he was tired again and they both fell asleep. His sig other woke up around 12 midnight yesterday early morning to my brother in law making slight movements and groaning, she attempted to wake him up and flipped the light to see Adam having a seizure. She called for his roommate to dial 911. Operator instructed them to attempt CPR while paramedics were on the way. The paramedics arrived and attempted full life saving measures, defibrillation, for 30 mins. Here is where I’m racking my brain and trying to figure their out. The doctor at the hospital told them after 30 mins of life saving that he was too young to call at the scene, keep attempting defib and bring him in. In total he was worked on for 72 mins however they never once found a pulse. My brothers heart never started again. He was 39 After the call to us at 1am we woke up and headed into town, by the time we reached the on ramp the chaplain called us and told us Adam had just passed. We couldn’t understand what happened. We got to the hospital, sat with the body until the dr came in and told us this: “We worked on Adam for 72 mins. We were unable to find a pulse again and called him at the hospital. We have no idea what he died of so we call these unexplained deaths. Most likely the medical examiner won’t ask for an autopsy as well, especially at his age” Especially at his age! So he’s young enough to be brought in and worked on for 72 mins, burns all over my brothers chest from defib, but too old for an autopsy to find out why my brother just went to sleep and never woke up? My wife is shattered, her only full blooded sibling gone at 39. The unknowns are weighing so heavy on my soul right now, this is such a tragedy. All of these symptoms right down to the vomiting or wanting to is what I had when I had my heart attack. Your BIL needed stents to open clogged arteries. All the defib in the world will not re-start a heart too blocked to pump oxygen charged blood. Your BIL should've been taken to hospital between 2-9pm. I'm sorry for your loss, I would take legal action on everyone involved. He wasn’t one to go to a dr for ANYTHING. The old boy broke his ankle last year and waited three days of walking on it and going to work before someone saw it and said it was purple you need to go get it checked. Thank you for sharing this, it is probably the most insight we have had yet. I knew if I put this thread up someone out there would have had a similar experience to his. As far as legal goes I don’t think it’s going to be pursued, the old adage of “you can lead a horse to water but can’t make him drink” comes to mind when I think of Adam. He was one stubborn, tough SOB. He is going to be missed by many. Thanks to everyone else that put their feelers out on this thread, we appreciate all the suggestions. Truly do love this place for moments like this. “When you’re dead you’re dead, but you’re not quite so dead if you contribute something” -John Dunsworth |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79164090 United States 08/18/2020 02:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The unexplained death of my brother in law (updated: county took possession over the body today) Sorry to hear about your loss. I also lost my husband suddenly several years ago. But he was in his 60s. They told me they don't do autopsies if a person is OVER 60. So age 39 is a lot younger. I would suspect Covid-19. Did they test for that? It might not be too late. |
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beeches
User ID: 78973486 United States 08/18/2020 03:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The unexplained death of my brother in law (updated: county took possession over the body today) Someone that young, you really do want to know the cause. Autopsies sometimes don't provide answers, and the family has to get a second one, like a second opinion. The price quoted seems very high. this would be a medical autopsy, not a forensic one. Since the immediate family does not want one, you will puzzle over it for a long time. Sounds heart related. Arhythmia comes to mind too. The indigestion and pressure may be unrelated, or food related. Then again, indigestion feelings could be part of a heart attack, if that is what he had. Spending time in water is not something I would consider as a cause. Flesh-eating bacteria can affect young people in that case, but you see what is going on. Tragic. just tragic. you and your wife and her parents, ahd his significant other, will be in my heart for a while. Last Edited by beeches on 08/18/2020 03:15 PM Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face – Thomas Sowell |
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LisaDiane
User ID: 75250152 United States 08/18/2020 04:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The unexplained death of my brother in law (updated: county took possession over the body today) Sounds exactly like a (WidowMaker) heart attack. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72630093 [link to healthblog.uofmhealth.org (secure)] A widowmaker is an informal term for a heart attack that involves 100 percent blockage in the left anterior descending (LAD) artery, says Stanley Chetcuti, M.D., an interventional cardiologist at the University of Michigan Frankel Cardiovascular Center. As heart attacks go, a widowmaker can be particularly lethal because of the location and extent of the blockage. “The LAD is a very important blood vessel,” Chetcuti says. “It supplies a significant amount of blood flow to the heart muscle — so there can be big consequences when that territory is jeopardized.” Sorry OP :( I do energy work for a living and get that this was related to the widow maker, otherwise known as LAD. LisaDiane |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78248928 United States 08/18/2020 04:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The unexplained death of my brother in law (updated: county took possession over the body today) Sounds exactly like a (WidowMaker) heart attack. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72630093 [link to healthblog.uofmhealth.org (secure)] A widowmaker is an informal term for a heart attack that involves 100 percent blockage in the left anterior descending (LAD) artery, says Stanley Chetcuti, M.D., an interventional cardiologist at the University of Michigan Frankel Cardiovascular Center. As heart attacks go, a widowmaker can be particularly lethal because of the location and extent of the blockage. “The LAD is a very important blood vessel,” Chetcuti says. “It supplies a significant amount of blood flow to the heart muscle — so there can be big consequences when that territory is jeopardized.” Sorry OP :( I do energy work for a living and get that this was related to the widow maker, otherwise known as LAD. Really ? I'm laying here with stints and a nearly 9 cm obdominal aortic anyurisum and don't know what of I speak ? It is laughable . |
Anonymous MD User ID: 75155617 United States 08/18/2020 05:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The unexplained death of my brother in law (updated: county took possession over the body today) Sounds like cardiac problem and with a possible aortic dissection. They usually have to do an autopsy if the patient died in the hospital after prolonged CPR. They need to prove that they did nothing wrong and all measures were taken. Does the family have a history of heart problems? Was he overweight? Heavy drinker and/or smoker? I hope you find some comfort and peace. I am so sorry for the loss of your BIL. |
Loup Garou
User ID: 31702506 United States 08/18/2020 05:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The unexplained death of my brother in law (updated: county took possession over the body today) So sorry for your loss and the fact that the family will never know the cause. May he rest in peace Just because YOU don’t believe in the Rougarou; or the Loup Garou, don’t make you safe; No ! The Constitution is a blend of 'moral certitude' -- which is one of the reasons that criminals are determined to be rid of it and We the People must be even more determined to defend it. "If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." - Thomas Paine The only thing the Illuminati fears is an independent person who can live, eat, sleep, stay warm and defend themselves separate from Federal help. Pray that the Lord gives us more time! The End is near and time is short! A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing his opinion. ~Proverbs 18:2 For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not understand, no explanation is possible "A candle loses nothing by lighting another candle" - James Keller Checkd, Keked, and Rekt! #Kids2 |
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DEFCON 4 User ID: 76340466 United States 08/18/2020 06:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The unexplained death of my brother in law (updated: county took possession over the body today) My sympathies for your sudden and unexpected loss. Please keep us informed if COD is determined. Best wishes. Last Edited by Riff-Raff on 08/18/2020 06:29 PM "Collapse is a process, not an event." - Unknown "It's in your nature to destroy yourselves." - Terminator 2 "Risking my life for people I hate for reasons I don't understand." - Riff-Raff Deputy Director - DEFCON Warning System |
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