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Message Subject Kamala Harris is Eligible VP and/or President
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the argument seems to be that if your parents weren't citizens, you can't hold the office of president. Even if you yourself are a natural born citizen. Or something.

I never thought that matters. Still don't.
 Quoting: nimmerfall


You retarded motherfucker.... the argument is that you are not a natural born citizen unless your parents were citizens.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8296838


Yeah, but unless and until a court actually says that's the definition, which they haven't done yet, the current interpretation applies. Which seems to be mostly based on Wong Kim Ark, which said that you were a citizen from birth if you're born in the US, regardless of your parents. Is it possible a court would agree with you if Trump sued? Maybe, but until they do the current precedent is that she is eligible.
 Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux


You need to read Wong Kim Ark closer:

United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898)
In this case, Wong Kim Ark, the son of 2 resident Chinese aliens, claimed U.S. Citizenship and was vindicated by the court on the basis of the 14th Amendment. In this case the Justice Gray gave the opinion of the court. On p. 168-9 of the record, He cites approvingly the decision in Minor vs. Happersett:

At common law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children, born in a country of parents who were its citizens, became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens
, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71611133


To me that line, in isolation, is inclusive rather than exclusive. It doesn't say that no one else can be considered a natural born citizen, just that a person in that situation always is.
 
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