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COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774)

 
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Can't make this shit up, German Dr's now recommend to get the booster shot together with the flu shot for those over 60yrs old. Can't kill them old folks (who actually still now what dictatorship, communism, war etc means) fast enough I suppose.

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That's what the current plan is for flu jabs in our area, Pfizer shot 1/2/booster in one arm, flu in the other. At the same time.

What could go wrong?
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Interesting they do the same in UK too.

At least they can blame it on the flu then (remember the CDC recalls the pcr tests in the US 31.12.21 because they can't differ good enough between corona and influenza?)

What I know from traditional active vaccines in children, if you get the mmr and the varicella shot together, sideffects are expected. If you get these 2 shots on the same day in different parts of body it will be not as bad as if you get both shots in the same spot.
But these are "normal" vaccines, don't know what flu shot (with its many side effects and people falling ill anyway) and the mrna spike thingy does.

Still sounds not a good idea.

(remember when they said "oh no problem mixing different vaccines like 1st shot Pfizer 2nd astrazeneca"? - they became very quiet and didn't recommend it anymore.)
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Just got a call last night that my brother has Covid and is in bad shape. He was the first in the family to get 'vaxxed' and he excitedly pushed the vax on us, forcefully promoting it like a pharmaceutical sales rep even threaten my wife and I if we don't get injected to "protect our parents" who refuse the poison. A few of my extended family are poisoned with the jab but most are not. As much as I dislike him for destroying my family a few years ago over money I don't wish him death. With that said, if he does pass, my wife and I will most likely be called into action to care for his 2 daughters. The irony is bitter sweet but incredibly frightening as it is close to home and I have no desire to drive out to NY to visit his dumbass in the ICU. I am 100% certain my wife and I made the right choices to get to where we are today and to be self sufficient off the grid and toxic vax free no longer materialistic slaves of this corrupt world.
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how is your hospital holding up with covid? check this

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this gives u an interactive map and lots of info when u zoom in to your area and towns around yours.
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That is a great graphic! You can even go back in time and see how hospital occupancy changed since the beginning of this mess.
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That's a great explanation. I've looked at some figures. Around 80% of weekly deaths in England and Wales are of people aged over 65. 95% of this demographic are double vaxxed. Of the remaining deaths (people under 65) who make up 20% of total weekly fatalities, I think that around 85% are double vaxxed (the vast majority of deaths in this group are in the 50-64 age group).

I'm using weekly deaths but the same proportions will apply to yearly, monthly or daily deaths.

So it's safe to say that 90-95% of people dying in England and Wales right now are double vaxxed.

We know that excess deaths have averaged about 1000 a week (10% above the five-year average) for the last eight weeks and only half of these excess deaths have been attributed to covid. We also know that most of these non-covid excess deaths have been of people aged over 80.

If, during this autumn and winter, the recent non-covid excess death trend continues, and maybe accelerates, then I believe that the general public will increasingly blame the vaccines.

The vaccines are injuring people. That is a fact. The ADE aspect has yet to be proven but vaccine injuries alone could be responsible for a huge uptick in mortality in the months to come.
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One thing I'd like to do is to work out how many vaccinations have occurred in the last 8 weeks, and then how many excess deaths over-and-above a 'pre-2020' average in the same time. I would then subtract the known COVID deaths from that excess (it'll be about 500-700 per week from COVID until recently, I guess). That leaves the probable maximum for vaccine-related deaths.
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You should propose all this and put it in a pre-print and put it on Medtwitter. Let's see how other people interpret your work. Please provide a link back. You are in a captive audience here of people who want to hear that vaccines are of no value and Ivermectin is the bomb.
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Certainly a different perspective.. [link to twitter.com (secure)] ... [link to twitter.com (secure)]

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did AC bump his head? or was he born stupid? there is over 10,000 pages of notes saying otherwise. learn to read u'd b educated.
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Reading comprehension…

Well “lack of” is the biggest clue.
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Right on cue, along trots the puppy dog. CC, you are so easy to control.
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did AC bump his head? or was he born stupid? there is over 10,000 pages of notes saying otherwise. learn to read u'd b educated.
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Reading comprehension…

Well “lack of” is the biggest clue.
 Quoting: CleverCreator:M80NDc5ODAxXzg5NjY3MjI1XzJDRTg5QTkx


Right on cue, along trots the puppy dog. CC, you are so easy to control.
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Says the wanna be superior genetic being.

Oh puhlease.

What insane fantasy have you dreamt up today?
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Thread: Dr. Rand Paul ~ Monoclonal Antibodies Can Save Lives
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And cause an insane increased number of mutations
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Its the shit. But same outcome


I apologise for my spelling and grammar, Dyslexia is a biatch.

But add on MS and its a whole new world of magic spelling and rambling.

We all love green, thanks in advance :)

So thats how it is, deal with it or keep walking.

We all love green. Thanks in advance :)
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Wow, when are our so called medical experts going to realize the vaccinated are catching covid at an ever increasing rate and are spreading covid to others…vaccinated think they are immune, they were told they were safe but now millions running around oblivious are a danger!

At least the unvaccinated are constantly looking for symptoms and avoiding infections…and being constantly tested, vaccinated are being told if your mildly sick don’t get tested…it’s just a cold or allergies.

I swear they want this to spread in a last ditch hope of heard immunity which is impossible!
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Moderna vaccine fading…

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Wow, when are our so called medical experts going to realize the vaccinated are catching covid at an ever increasing rate and are spreading covid to others…vaccinated think they are immune, they were told they were safe but now millions running around oblivious are a danger!

At least the unvaccinated are constantly looking for symptoms and avoiding infections…and being constantly tested, vaccinated are being told if your mildly sick don’t get tested…it’s just a cold or allergies.

I swear they want this to spread in a last ditch hope of heard immunity which is impossible!
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This is what I am seeing, too. A lot of my vaxxed friends are running around like the pandemic is over ... going to concerts, attending large gatherings, etc. I don't have many unvaxxed folks in my circle, but the ones I do know are being pretty darn cautious. My vaxxed friends think I am being paranoid (never mind that I'm immunocompromised, and may not have any protection at all from the vax!)
Looks like freedom but it feels like death. It's something in between I guess... it's closing time.

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Wow, when are our so called medical experts going to realize the vaccinated are catching covid at an ever increasing rate and are spreading covid to others…vaccinated think they are immune, they were told they were safe but now millions running around oblivious are a danger!

At least the unvaccinated are constantly looking for symptoms and avoiding infections…and being constantly tested, vaccinated are being told if your mildly sick don’t get tested…it’s just a cold or allergies.

I swear they want this to spread in a last ditch hope of heard immunity which is impossible!
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This is what I am seeing, too. A lot of my vaxxed friends are running around like the pandemic is over ... going to concerts, attending large gatherings, etc. I don't have many unvaxxed folks in my circle, but the ones I do know are being pretty darn cautious. My vaxxed friends think I am being paranoid (never mind that I'm immunocompromised, and may not have any protection at all from the vax!)
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Here too, Doommonkey. Very few people wear masks. The festivals are all going ahead this fall. Lots of people at all of them. I hate missing them, but I can't afford to get sick with anything else right now.

How's your mom doing? I've been wondering about you 2.
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Hey, Texan

Thanks so much for asking. My mom is definitely more comfortable than a week ago, though we are having trouble finding good caregivers. I'm a stressed out wreck from all the nonstop coordinating I've had to do in addition to my job, and I suspect it will be a very, very long semester.

I do worry about my friends -- the ones who are going back to life as it used to be. Truly, I hate missing things, too.... I had concert tickets before the pandemic, but am going to just eat the cost and not go to the rescheduled events (or, if I have intrepid friends, I'll pass them along to someone who wants the tickets). As much as I miss live music, the risk isn't at all worth it to me - and especially now, with my mom so sick and needing me there with her, that's just not in the realm of reality.

There may come a day in the future when I decide to take more risks, but certainly not now. It does seem Covid is here to stay, though, and any venturing out into the world will be a matter of weighing risk vs. benefit.

I think I am probably going to be a refuser with the booster shots, given what a hard time I had after dose #2. I imagine that means I'm on my way to being a barely-human-non-citizen in the eyes of the establishment, but so be it. We are still not sure whether the second dose had anything to do with my mom going downhill so quickly ... but she mentioned, again, that she thinks perhaps it did.
Looks like freedom but it feels like death. It's something in between I guess... it's closing time.

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hey DM,how goes the west?
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2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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did AC bump his head? or was he born stupid? there is over 10,000 pages of notes saying otherwise. learn to read u'd b educated.
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Reading comprehension…

Well “lack of” is the biggest clue.
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Right on cue, along trots the puppy dog. CC, you are so easy to control.
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Says the wanna be superior genetic being.

Oh puhlease.

What insane fantasy have you dreamt up today?
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Yep. ruff ruff!!
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Wow, when are our so called medical experts going to realize the vaccinated are catching covid at an ever increasing rate and are spreading covid to others…vaccinated think they are immune, they were told they were safe but now millions running around oblivious are a danger!

At least the unvaccinated are constantly looking for symptoms and avoiding infections…and being constantly tested, vaccinated are being told if your mildly sick don’t get tested…it’s just a cold or allergies.

I swear they want this to spread in a last ditch hope of heard immunity which is impossible!
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This is what I am seeing, too. A lot of my vaxxed friends are running around like the pandemic is over ... going to concerts, attending large gatherings, etc. I don't have many unvaxxed folks in my circle, but the ones I do know are being pretty darn cautious. My vaxxed friends think I am being paranoid (never mind that I'm immunocompromised, and may not have any protection at all from the vax!)
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Come to the Center Valley. Unvaxxed here don't take any precautions , even as in our community, they are the only ones who have died
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Looks like proof vaccinated are super spreading covid…while just animals, it proves in a controlled environment that the vaccinated are a threat and do spread the virus to others…aka teachers vaccinated to kids unvaccinated in particular. Unvaccinated are atvextream risk from vaccinated out in public acting like they are invincible to infection and worse they think the cannot spread the virus!

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Hey, Texan

Thanks so much for asking. My mom is definitely more comfortable than a week ago, though we are having trouble finding good caregivers. I'm a stressed out wreck from all the nonstop coordinating I've had to do in addition to my job, and I suspect it will be a very, very long semester.

I do worry about my friends -- the ones who are going back to life as it used to be. Truly, I hate missing things, too.... I had concert tickets before the pandemic, but am going to just eat the cost and not go to the rescheduled events (or, if I have intrepid friends, I'll pass them along to someone who wants the tickets). As much as I miss live music, the risk isn't at all worth it to me - and especially now, with my mom so sick and needing me there with her, that's just not in the realm of reality.

There may come a day in the future when I decide to take more risks, but certainly not now. It does seem Covid is here to stay, though, and any venturing out into the world will be a matter of weighing risk vs. benefit.

I think I am probably going to be a refuser with the booster shots, given what a hard time I had after dose #2. I imagine that means I'm on my way to being a barely-human-non-citizen in the eyes of the establishment, but so be it. We are still not sure whether the second dose had anything to do with my mom going downhill so quickly ... but she mentioned, again, that she thinks perhaps it did.
 Quoting: Doommonkey


I'm glad to hear she's doing a bit better. I know it's hard on you, too. My bil has been having the same trouble as you. He can't keep caregivers that actually will do the work they were hired to do for his mom and stepdad. He's been staying with them alot. It isn't helping his health out much either.

I've decided I don't much care what the rest of the world thinks about whether I take the shots or not. I'm still waiting to hear from the nephrologist's office. It's my understanding that there is no chance of dialysis without the shots, so I don't know what will happen there. Seems to me the odds are pretty much the same. It'll come down to which of 3 options will give me the most usable time. If I take the shots, will I survive them? If I do that and get dialysis, how long will I have? At my age, it's usually only a few years. If I don't do either, how long and how much more pain? Even if I was eligible for transplant, I don't want it. I've lived my life, for the most part. It should go to a young person. Mr. TB doesn't like that I feel this way, but I can't help it. He won't talk with me about it. If they fail like they did the last time, I won't even know.

I miss live music, too. My little town actually has an amazing orchestra! They are top notch! They've had a few outdoor concerts, but we've been to them before and they're very crowded! It was fun then, not so much now. I'd love to hear them again, though.

If you need to talk, just pm me. I don't mind and it'll give me something to think about instead of my own pity party.
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TB i need something. i need u to do to the jeep what u did to the coffee pot. and at this point, i don't care if u use voodd,wiggle your nose. or a pony tail.
JAZZZ50

2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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BTW, i'll post this for the EU or overseas crew.

do u all still read CC1's thread or do u want me to move thinking posts to here? u know posts that make u think or to ponder.stuff your brains will chew on like deer jerky.
JAZZZ50

2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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TB i need something. i need u to do to the jeep what u did to the coffee pot. and at this point, i don't care if u use voodd,wiggle your nose. or a pony tail.
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I know you do, hon. How'd you know I have a pony tail going on these days? Really need a haircut soon.

I didn't do the coffee pot, but I'll try on the Jeep. No promises though. Sometimes, He tells me no.
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me hates vehicle doom.
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2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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me hates vehicle doom.
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I know. Been there a bunch of times. It totally sucks dirt.
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it's like playing a game of chicken with DOOM and someone stole the steering wheel.
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2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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I wonder if the pandemic is waning.
No other variant was able to replace delta until now.
In Europe (not in US yet) covid cases decrease nearly everywhere.
Usuallly, we had the graphic of a new wave, here on this forum, 1 ou 2 months before it was on the news channel.
Any hints on a next wave ?





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