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COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774)

 
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Ohhh it's 2020 all over again. After months of making promises the Olympics would absolutley be held this year they are now preparing the Japanese for the cancellation of the Olympics again.







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Kids are dying from MISC? Dang, I didn't know that.

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Arizona: 3 deaths linked to COVID-related condition in kids called MIS-C

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Unfortunately.

And those that survive are looking at a life of health problems.

Zeph is high risk for mis-c as he still gets fevers even though we have been home.
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Time has come to get the Jab.

Still unsure if i want it.
But sort of being pushed to the point where i have too.

If im honest i dont think i survive covid if i got it.

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As difficult a decision as it is. If you feel at risk if you get the virus then it's probably wise to get a jab. Same if you are over 70. No brainer
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i disagree with that. there may be exceptions but i am not yet sure who should take the shot.

i'll explain using my GF as a reference point. she most likely woul;d b dead from the virus. best chance is avoid it.

the complications from the shot include heart issues and clotting. she has both now. the brain interactions of the virus and vaccine would impact her also. she had brain surgerty due to anorisms exploding in her brain.many of the symtpons from the virus mirror stroke damage.

those points alone point to adding fuel to a fire.i see bad affects.no positive,risk is greater than the reward. she would,and anyone else who took the shot, need to still avoid any and all other variants. cause we are not 100% surre the vaccine will give 100% protectioion from the other versions.

there is another issue. changing meds can cause issues. her body can react to any change to the med regime. if u adjust 1 of her med's,she takes several, then it may take weeks to get her back to normal. adjust 1 then watch for changes and adjust another med and so on. this takes time and trips to Dr's. adding another risk to b exposed to the virus.

so adding the vaccine,which is a med in a way, would screw her up. then need to adjust more meds. and we have heard enuf reports of ppl having sever negative reactions to it. in her case it would b like adding dynamite to a small fire.
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Kids are dying from MISC? Dang, I didn't know that.

dang



Arizona: 3 deaths linked to COVID-related condition in kids called MIS-C

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 Quoting: CoronaCoaster


Unfortunately.

And those that survive are looking at a life of health problems.

Zeph is high risk for mis-c as he still gets fevers even though we have been home.
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Time has come to get the Jab.

Still unsure if i want it.
But sort of being pushed to the point where i have too.

If im honest i dont think i survive covid if i got it.

Rocks and hard places
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Today marks 2 weeks from my second Pfizer. I never felt any effects from either shot.

Taking these shots was a very difficult decision for me. But, I have no regrets. Nor do I have any illusions that I'm 'fully immunized' against COVID.

Statistically speaking, your odds of being struck by lightening while driving a Bentley around Moscow with Scarlett Johanson singing Volare' are better than having serious side effects.

That said, at this point, the ONLY shot I'd take is Pfizer.
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healthy ppl will most likely survive the version of the virus that we saw locally. the rick is take the vacine to prevent them from getting that version. this can leave them more suceptable to the variants. but that is not what the CDC is telling ppl. the ppl are givemn a false hope and therefore putting themself at more risk.

now med workers might b the exception on who should take the shot. they can not avoid ppl. that is part of their job.
so a older med worker with vast experience that could help save lilves may need to take the shot.not only to protect them but also the patients. even here thou, they deserve to know the true facts and decide not b dictated to or misled and lied to.
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we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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India's young suffering more in the current wave compared to the previous wave. Echoes of what is happening in Brazil.

"More children are reporting high-grade fever compared to last year. We have 35-year olds with pneumonia in intensive care, which was not happening last year."

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Asymptomatic Spread.

It seems there is more and more evidence emerging that asymptomatic spread of the sars-cov-2 does not occur as is the case with other viruses.

Thus meaning lockdowns, masks and social distancing for people showing no symptoms to be pointless.

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verydamned


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Asymptomatic Spread.

It seems there is more and more evidence emerging that asymptomatic spread of the sars-cov-2 does not occur as is the case with other viruses.

Thus meaning lockdowns, masks and social distancing for people showing no symptoms to be pointless.

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Unfortunately very very wrong. Not everyone developed antibodies.
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Oh fuck.

My throat was raw for weeks after intubation. I cannot imagine being alert during it.

My heart hurts.
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Asymptomatic Spread.

It seems there is more and more evidence emerging that asymptomatic spread of the sars-cov-2 does not occur as is the case with other viruses.

Thus meaning lockdowns, masks and social distancing for people showing no symptoms to be pointless.

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 Quoting: ParamedicUK



Care to share the evidence of that?

(UK being at the low point of the current wave doesn't count)

peace
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Just not sure this is possible !!
Herd immunity and vaccine free is the only way……

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Asymptomatic Spread.

It seems there is more and more evidence emerging that asymptomatic spread of the sars-cov-2 does not occur as is the case with other viruses.

Thus meaning lockdowns, masks and social distancing for people showing no symptoms to be pointless.

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Care to share the evidence of that?

(UK being at the low point of the current wave doesn't count)

peace
 Quoting: CoronaCoaster


Yeah. Quite the opposite.

The high prevalence of asymptomatic SARS-CoV-2 infection reveals the silent spread of COVID-19

Less than 50%

Highlights

• The risk of asymptomatic spread of COVID-19 may be higher than anticipated.

• Asymptomatic cases made up 50% of a random sample of index cases.

• Infectivity rates were similar for asymptomatic and symptomatic index cases.

• Asymptomatic-to-asymptomatic transmission was the most common transmission.

• Middle-aged males were the most common transmitters of the virus.

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Wow.

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India's young suffering more in the current wave compared to the previous wave. Echoes of what is happening in Brazil.

"More children are reporting high-grade fever compared to last year. We have 35-year olds with pneumonia in intensive care, which was not happening last year."

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seems b lots more news drops on kids being long haulers as well. goes against the current push to open schools.

news has caught up to being a year behind now.maybe arming the public with info so they can explain the next lockdowns with the variants.still those would b late. MICH shoulda been locked weeks back.
JAZZZ50

2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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P1 is mutating in ways that could make it better able to evade antibodies, according to scientists studying the virus.

Those changes, the scientists said, could make the virus more resistant to vaccines - which target the spike protein - with potentially grave implications for the severity of the outbreak in Latin America’s most populous nation.

“We believe it’s another escape mechanism the virus is creating to evade the response of antibodies,”


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Asymptomatic Spread.

It seems there is more and more evidence emerging that asymptomatic spread of the sars-cov-2 does not occur as is the case with other viruses.

Thus meaning lockdowns, masks and social distancing for people showing no symptoms to be pointless.

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 Quoting: ParamedicUK


we know this to b false. why they pushing this now?

too many mixed messages from news. the govern's trying to play dumb on purpose? CYA cause big case spikes incoming?

here the push is open everything and spread the virus and variants. govern is helping the virus.
JAZZZ50

2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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Asymptomatic Spread.

It seems there is more and more evidence emerging that asymptomatic spread of the sars-cov-2 does not occur as is the case with other viruses.

Thus meaning lockdowns, masks and social distancing for people showing no symptoms to be pointless.

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 Quoting: ParamedicUK


Could you post the evidence, or point me to it? Thanks.
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India's young suffering more in the current wave compared to the previous wave. Echoes of what is happening in Brazil.

"More children are reporting high-grade fever compared to last year. We have 35-year olds with pneumonia in intensive care, which was not happening last year."

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 Quoting: CoronaCoaster


seems b lots more news drops on kids being long haulers as well. goes against the current push to open schools.

news has caught up to being a year behind now.maybe arming the public with info so they can explain the next lockdowns with the variants.still those would b late. MICH shoulda been locked weeks back.
 Quoting: JAZZz50


Yeah, schools getting hit quite a lot in Michigan and Minnesota. Gov Whitmer has been trying to persuade the schools to close but leaving the final decision up to the schools if they want to close (which in most cases it's too late by then).
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it already has spread out from MICH. MN and Chicago climbing. Great Lakes region west showing case increases.
JAZZZ50

2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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No shocked.

Johnson & Johnson vaccine remains on hold

Less than 50%

The clots under investigation are highly unusual. They occurred in strange places, in veins that drain blood from the brain, and in people with abnormally low levels of clot-forming platelets. The six cases raised an alarm bell because that number is at least three times more than experts would have expected to see even of more typical brain-drainage clots, said CDC's Dr. Tom Shimabukuro.

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A paper to be published in May in the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s (CDC/US) journal Emerging Infectious Diseases (EID) shows that a first exposure to COVID-19 in mild or asymptomatic cases may not produce an immune response, and that a person can reinfect himself or herself with the same variant. The second infection can cause stronger symptoms than the first, the study indicates.

The data shows that for a portion of the population that has the disease in the mild form (in which hospitalization is not required) this does not mean that they will be immune or that a reinfection will evolve in a benign way. The study also indicates that reinfection may be more frequent than assumed.

The case of being infected by the same variant happens because the patient would not have built up an immunological memory. In the case of another strain, it would “escape” surveillance, it would not be recognized by the previously generated memory because it is a little different.

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if my memory serves me right, chicken pox spreads before the person shows sympons also.hence how it used to spread thru schools even thou the infected person would b ordered to stay home once they showed spots.
JAZZZ50

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we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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Over a million in London being urged to get tested over concerns on the spread of the South Africa variant


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I understand “not an argument”. I am just a bit flustered watching India and Brazil.... it’s going to be that way at home.... sooner or later.

And the rest of the world - let us hope not but the US is showing signs?

UK Keep Calm Sma
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Are there any other medics on this thread?

Suddenly I seem to be seeing a lot more cardiac related patients. Arrhythmias, Chest Pains, Infarctions and Arrests?

Maybe vaccine issues??
 Quoting: ParamedicUK


I'm a former paramedic, long out of the business...seeing any unusual or odd ectopics on the monitor? In your verbal evaluation, are you asking if they have taken the vax? Would be interesting to know...





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