"A fairly radical Constitution with a radical Bill of Rights, giving a radical amount of freedom to Americans..." | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 105508 United States 10/04/2007 09:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "A fairly radical Constitution with a radical Bill of Rights, giving a radical amount of freedom to Americans..." [link to www.enoughisenough.org.au] Quoting: NWO 294731"When we got organized as a country and we wrote a fairly radical Constitution with a radical Bill of Rights, giving a radical amount of freedom to Americans..." "And so alot of people say there's too much personal freedom. When personal freedom's being abused, you have to move to limit it. That's what we did in the announcement I made last weekend on the Housing Projects, about how we're going to have weapon sweeps and more things like that to try to make the people feel safer in their communities"--President Bill Clinton 3-22-94, MTV's "Enough is Enough" "We can't be so fixated on our desire to preserve the rights of ordinary Americans.."-- Bill Clinton USA Today--3-11-93, page 2a "Gun registration is not enough"--Attorney Generral Janet Reno--12-10-93--Associated Press "Waiting periods are only a step. Registration is only a step. The prohibition of private firearms is the goal"--Janet Reno More to come after Hillary and Co take the reins in 09. And then we will be crying "bring back Bush". Give me the short version. What freedoms do you get under this system that you don't have now? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 294722 United States 10/04/2007 09:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "A fairly radical Constitution with a radical Bill of Rights, giving a radical amount of freedom to Americans..." [link to www.enoughisenough.org.au] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 105508"When we got organized as a country and we wrote a fairly radical Constitution with a radical Bill of Rights, giving a radical amount of freedom to Americans..." "And so alot of people say there's too much personal freedom. When personal freedom's being abused, you have to move to limit it. That's what we did in the announcement I made last weekend on the Housing Projects, about how we're going to have weapon sweeps and more things like that to try to make the people feel safer in their communities"--President Bill Clinton 3-22-94, MTV's "Enough is Enough" "We can't be so fixated on our desire to preserve the rights of ordinary Americans.."-- Bill Clinton USA Today--3-11-93, page 2a "Gun registration is not enough"--Attorney Generral Janet Reno--12-10-93--Associated Press "Waiting periods are only a step. Registration is only a step. The prohibition of private firearms is the goal"--Janet Reno More to come after Hillary and Co take the reins in 09. And then we will be crying "bring back Bush". Give me the short version. What freedoms do you get under this system that you don't have now? It's sarcasm We are getting ready to loose more rights in 2009 and beyond. We are in big trouble. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 105508 United States 10/04/2007 09:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8925 United States 10/04/2007 09:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "A fairly radical Constitution with a radical Bill of Rights, giving a radical amount of freedom to Americans..." It's sarcasm We are getting ready to loose more rights in 2009 and beyond. We are in big trouble. What rights are we going to lose? Re-read the op, and add 1+1. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 105508 United States 10/04/2007 09:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "A fairly radical Constitution with a radical Bill of Rights, giving a radical amount of freedom to Americans..." It's sarcasm We are getting ready to loose more rights in 2009 and beyond. We are in big trouble. What rights are we going to lose? Re-read the op, and add 1+1. I did. I added 1+1 and drew this conclusion. The OP can't name a single right that we are about to lose. He is imagining things. You can't name a single right that we are about to lose either. You are imagining things as well. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8925 United States 10/04/2007 09:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "A fairly radical Constitution with a radical Bill of Rights, giving a radical amount of freedom to Americans..." It's sarcasm We are getting ready to loose more rights in 2009 and beyond. We are in big trouble. What rights are we going to lose? Re-read the op, and add 1+1. I did. I added 1+1 and drew this conclusion. The OP can't name a single right that we are about to lose. He is imagining things. You can't name a single right that we are about to lose either. You are imagining things as well. Hillary and Bill are both documented on multiple occasions as saying they want Americans disarmed. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8925 United States 10/04/2007 09:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 105508 United States 10/04/2007 09:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "A fairly radical Constitution with a radical Bill of Rights, giving a radical amount of freedom to Americans..." It's sarcasm We are getting ready to loose more rights in 2009 and beyond. We are in big trouble. What rights are we going to lose? Re-read the op, and add 1+1. I did. I added 1+1 and drew this conclusion. The OP can't name a single right that we are about to lose. He is imagining things. You can't name a single right that we are about to lose either. You are imagining things as well. Hillary and Bill are both documented on multiple occasions as saying they want Americans disarmed. That isn't true. As I said, you're imagining things. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 105508 United States 10/04/2007 09:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "A fairly radical Constitution with a radical Bill of Rights, giving a radical amount of freedom to Americans..." Now, why would Hillary not trust the people with firearms? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8925And, why would anyone vote for someone that has no faith in her constituents? Gun control/gun rights isn't even on the radar in this campaign. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 307689 Netherlands 10/04/2007 09:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "A fairly radical Constitution with a radical Bill of Rights, giving a radical amount of freedom to Americans..." Loss of rights is right! I got the following off a website while doing a search for something else: FARM ANIMAL CHIP IMPLANTS Implanted RFID tags are part of NAIS, which isn't going to go into effect till 2007/8 in the US. Tracking of animals won't cure or prevent BSE/Scrapie/E.Coli because it isn't intended to. It is intended only to *appear* to be Doing Something™ to the countries we export agricultural products to. There are a number of reasons that NAIS is broken, defective and can never fulfil its publically stated mission. Starting with Revelations 13:16-17 - He also forced everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead, so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name. Currently the tagging and registration is voluntary. Did you know that to "register" your farm that you have to give up your 4th Amendment right to search warrants? That every time an animal leaves, enters, is born or dies on your registered facility that you have to file electronically with NAIS? Or that NAIS is privatizing the database before it is even live? ISO 11785 compliant implants start at $1.50 and go up. Only small farms have to use them. Large "farms" that keep critters in lots from birth to abattoir only have to serialize the lot, not the animals, so places that raise thousands of animals won't be paying $1.50/animal. Sample Use Case: - You raise cattle for the beef industry. Each calf when born requires tagging and notification for the USDA. - You raise large amounts of cattle for the beef industry. Each calf requires registration, but no tagging as long as they stay in the same lots. - You want to ride your horse to visit your family down the road. You must notify USDA when the horse leaves the registered "source" and when it arrives at the destination. You'll have to notify the USDA when it returns home. A filing fee must be paid for each leg of the journey. - You take your horse out on the trail where it might comingle with other horses. You guessed it: notify and pay. - Your kids raise sheep for 4H. They've already been tagged and registered. When you take them to the show/fair, you have to notify the USDA and pay the fees when you leave the farm and come back from the show. - You raise sheep. They never leave your farm. You want to hire a stud to come visit to knock up your ewes. Now all your sheep must get RFID tagged. - You raise quail and partridges for a local hunting club. You're out of business by 2009. - You raise fish. Good luck tagging them with compliant rfid tags. You're out of business by 2009. - You are Amish. Your religious beliefs prohibit you from obeying this law. Welcome to the tribulation. - You've been farming since before time began. Now you must purchase a computer and internet service to comply with registration and reporting requirements. The USDA does not plan to begin notifying farmers that they are covered by the NAIS requirements until mid 2007, long after the comment period expires, and about 6 months before it becomes mandatory. The claimed reason for creating NAIS is to cut down on E Coli, BSE and "animal bioterrorism." To eliminate E Coli infection of beef, all the industry would have to do is have the cattle graze on grass for the last 5 days before slaughter. Instead, many cattle stand knee deep in their own urine and feces in feed lots. The US forbids 100% testing of cattle for BSE (Europe and Japan require 100% testing), and permits it only for visibly symptomatic animals. Since it takes 4-5 years for the symptoms to become visible in infected cattle, and most beef cattle are slaughtered before they reach 4 years old, the failure to be able to mitigate BSE in US beef supplies is obvious. There haven't been any incidents of "animal bioterrorism" that I've ever heard of. Foot and Mouth disease was eradicated in the US over 70 years ago. None of the regulations can meet the stated requirements. This means that the regulations exist for some different reason than the stated ones. The general consensus in the farming community is that these regulations are being made to make the general public less fearful when contaminated meat comes from a packing plant. We must protect the profit margins of big-farming no matter how much it screws the public or the smaller farmer. [link to globalguerrillas.typepad.com] . |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 105508 United States 10/04/2007 10:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "A fairly radical Constitution with a radical Bill of Rights, giving a radical amount of freedom to Americans..." Loss of rights is right! I got the following off a website while doing a search for something else: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 307689FARM ANIMAL CHIP IMPLANTS Implanted RFID tags are part of NAIS, which isn't going to go into effect till 2007/8 in the US. Tracking of animals won't cure or prevent BSE/Scrapie/E.Coli because it isn't intended to. It is intended only to *appear* to be Doing Something™ to the countries we export agricultural products to. OMG, we're going to lose our right to have our farm animals free of RFID chips. That is certainly worth a rewrite of the entire US Constitution. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 307713 Ireland 10/04/2007 10:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "A fairly radical Constitution with a radical Bill of Rights, giving a radical amount of freedom to Americans..." FARM ANIMAL CHIP IMPLANTS Quoting: Anonymous Coward 105508Implanted RFID tags are part of NAIS, which isn't going to go into effect till 2007/8 in the US. --------------- OMG, we're going to lose our right to have our farm animals free of RFID chips. That is certainly worth a rewrite of the entire US Constitution. You don't read very well, do you? You missed the entire point of the NAIS regulations. Go back and read it slowly and carefully. . |
bones User ID: 265507 United States 10/04/2007 06:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "A fairly radical Constitution with a radical Bill of Rights, giving a radical amount of freedom to Americans..." Gun control/gun rights isn't even on the radar in this campaign. Quoting: Evil TwinQuoting: Anonymous Coward 105508 LOL, and Hillary would love to keep it that way. That's so right ET...she would be torn apart and caught in her lies... What rights are we going to lose? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 105508^ don't you just hate it when Hillary's people enter into forums... |