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weak thread, taoism and that nonsense sun worship and pagan idoltary is for those with eyes that cant see, and ears that cant hear. Wake up to Jesus
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The Sun and the Moon are Spirit! Sun and Moon follow their courses and it is now cold, now hot, and when cold goes heat comes, when heat comes cold goes. This is Spirit
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Those who overly pride wealth is like the overflowing water which shall cause damages. It is
better to restrain early.
Those who are not content with fame is like polishing the edge of a knife.
The sharper it gets, the easier it is to break.
Wealth and treasures are but illusions that one cannot possess.
Those who are arrogant of their wealth and fame shall invite blame upon oneself.
The nature Tao teaches one to retreat after one’s success and not to hold on to the credit.


more relevant than ever
.Truth made names in the world, and without them we can’t refer to truth. Truth is one and is many, teaching one thing through the many...
.It won't be seen or understood as something particular. Rather, the kingdom is spread out upon the earth, yet people do not see it..
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The Master has no possessions.
The more he/she does for others, the happier he/she is.
The more he/she gives to others, the wealthier he/she is


Sensual desire, greed and attachments

Vs

Unconditional love and compassion
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Entering the way and awakening to the way are one and the same thing. Some disciples enter the way when they awaken to it, others awaken to the way when they enter it. There has never been, however, someone who has entered the way and has obtained it without first realizing the unity of the heart and the authenticity of the heart. Without that unity there is dispersal, and without authenticity there is instability. With dispersal, the light cannot coalesce, and with instability, it cannot coagulate

If one cannot see one's own heart, how can one join the most high? This is why confucians value inner observation and taoists value inner contemplation. Moreover, the buddhist sutra in forty two sections says "Fix your heart on one point, and nothing will be impossible"

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"Reversing the Light" is only a general term. As the practice progresses , at each stage the radiance becomes more intense and the method of inversion becomes more wondrous. Before, one controlled the inside from the outside. Now, one resides in the center to manage the outside. The situation is entirely reversed

When the mind is aroused by following external things, it comes forth in the outward and it roams and wanders. Now, by reversing the light, the mind is not aroused by following external things. The Yin breath is halted and the radiance becomes concentrated and illuminates. This is Pure Yang



This technique can work instantly once you get the hang of it. One minute you're in the low frequencies with negative thought forms running rampant, next minute the mind is clear and you're centred in the heart in high frequencies. Like magic. Maintaining the higher frequencies is the challenge, a lot of back and forth is to be expected
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the next stage of the awakening has begun

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The dao is fundamentally formless, but is represented by the dragon and the tiger. It is fundamentally nameless, but is symbolized by lead and mercury. For those who study celestial immortality, what is necessary is that "form and spirit are both wondrous", and that they join in their reality with the reality of the dao. How can you become trapped by yin and yang within the five agents? You must leap outside heaven and earth. Only then can you be called one who has attained the dao
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In plants and trees, yin and yang are equal to another
Let either be lacking and they do not bloom
First the green leaves open, for yang is the first to sing
Then a red flower blossoms as yin follows later


In nature, the yang principle precedes the yin principle, but both of them are necessary. Yang gives the initial impulse to life, yin brings it to achievement. The green color is an emblem of the initial stage of the true yang principle. The red color is the symbolic color of the elixir, which "blossoms" when the true yin principle joins the true yang principle

The same priority of yang over yin is seen in the treatment of the ingredients of the golden elixir, when true lead is first refined from "black lead" and is then joined to true yin refined from cinnabar, and in the fire phases, where the yang phase of increasing heat is followed by the yin phase of decreasing heat. At the same time, however, the alchemical process is based on the "inversion" of the natural processes, which makes it possible to revert back to the original state, here called the true origin. Both movements - the forward and the backward ones are needed in order to fulfil the alchemical path

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"When the way comes to an end, then change - having changed, you pass through."

.....and this is what a lot of people all over the globe are in the midst of currently.

Thx for this thread, OP.
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And thought struggles against the results, trying to avoid those unpleasant results while keeping on with that way of thinking. That is what I call 'sustained incoherence.' ...David Bohm

“How, O Zenobia, hast thou dared to insult Roman emperors?” ...Aurelian, 44th Emperor of the Roman Empire
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"When the way comes to an end, then change - having changed, you pass through."

.....and this is what a lot of people all over the globe are in the midst of currently.

Thx for this thread, OP.
hf
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Thank you for the post cheers

The strange fact is that the world goes on against all reasonable odds. A hundred years, and even unimaginable evil is just called history

"Change is the only certainty."

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The worlds of desire, of form, and of formlessness are the three worlds. When the mind forgets pondering and thinking, it transcends the world of desire; when it forgets all phenomena, it transcends the world of form; when it is not attached to the vision of emptiness, it transcends the world of formlessness. When you leave these three worlds, spirit dwells in the village of immortals and the sages, and the inner nature resides in the realm of jade clarity

The dharma body is a representation of formlessness. It is neither emptiness nor existence, it has neither front nor back, it is neither low nor high, it is neither long nor short. When it operates, there is nothing it does not pervade; when it is stored, it is inchoate and silent and it does not leave any trace

If you obtain this way, you can nourish it. The more you nourish it, the more are your merits; the less you nourish it, the less are your merits. Neither desire to go back (to the origin) nor be attached to this world: then you will leave or stay, and this will occur naturally

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The Tao posted on GLP is not the real Tao.
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chuckle

We can talk around it a bit though...
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awesome , taoism is a combo , of strict diet , and meditation ,right ? i used to read about it 40yrs ago. thanks op.
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rid yourseves of the ego,s controll , = freedom.
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rid yourseves of the ego,s controll , = freedom.
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Confucians call it great ultimate, taoists call it golden elixir, buddists call it complete enlightenment. Fundamentally it has no name or title, but if we are forced to give it a name we call it dao.

it is not form and is not emptiness, it is not being and it is not non being. If it is attributed to the images of form and emptiness, of being and non being, it is not the dao
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With beingness attention starts.

Whenever you think you think on something else that you are not. You cannot think on yourself. You only have to be thought free. Without depending on anything you must find out yourself. Being before conception is a non-attentive state, the border of beingness and no beingness.

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The foolish ones take the signs and the patterns of heaven and earth as sagehood, because sagehood is unfathomable. As they deem it to be unfathomable, people refrain from inquiring into its principles. They consider it sagehood but do not know what makes it sagehood
 Quoting: Xenophon



bump for the astrology tards
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Just like The Christ with The Buddha, The Hopi, The Ennead, etc, for The Christ had manifest and sanctified it holy.

But Israel had not been manifest since they killed the Priest of God with prophets and prophetesses.

And now we have soulless beasts of the earth overtaken more than half the world.

And the soulless beasts of the earth could had easily overtaken 99% today if it were not for fierce anger of the Lord with the fall of Sodom & Gomorrah, Alexandria, Babylon, Phoenican, Assyrian, Egyptian, Romans with Pompeii and Rome, Mongolian, etc, etc.

Even eugenics will cut off the child cord connect to the source and become soulless beast of the earth.

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The foolish ones take the signs and the patterns of heaven and earth as sagehood, because sagehood is unfathomable. As they deem it to be unfathomable, people refrain from inquiring into its principles. They consider it sagehood but do not know what makes it sagehood
 Quoting: Xenophon



bump for the astrology tards
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If not inquiring into its principles. It's an interesting passage; it doesn't say it is not sagehood. (i think scratching)

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Subduing the mind

With regard to the way of the mind, if it is constantly deep and profound, the mind does not move. Inchoate and silent, it does not see the external things, dim and obscure, it is neither inside nor outside. There is not even the slightest thought. This is the stable mind, and it does not need to be subdued

If, instead, the mind is aroused by complying with the phenomena, it becomes disturbed and deranged as it looks for heads and tails. This is the confused mind, and it should be quickly brought to an end. You should not indulge in it, as it spoils you way (dao) and your virtue (de), and it damages your nature (xing) and your existence (ming). In standing, walking, sitting, or lying down, constantly strive to subdue it: hearing and seeing, knowing and perceiving are the sources of sickness and trouble

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Thankyou very grounding statement.
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Xuanxue or “Dark Learning”


Xuanxue is a metaphysical post-classical Chinese philosophy from the Six Dynasties (222-589), bringing together Daoist and Confucian beliefs through revision and discussion. The movement found its scriptural support both in Daoist and drastically-reinterpreted Confucian sources. Xuanxue, or "Dark Learning”, came to reign supreme in cultural circles, especially at Jiankang during the period of division. The concept represented the more abstract, unworldly, and idealistic tendency in early medieval Chinese thought. Xuanxue philosophers combined elements of Confucianism and Taoism to reinterpret the I Ching, Tao Te Ching and Zhuangzi.

The name first compounds xuan: "black, dark; mysterious, profound, abstruse, arcane." It occurs in the first chapter of the Tao Te Ching. The word xuan literally depicts a shade of deep, dark red. Tao Te Ching speaks of the Dao as xuan, more specifically underpinning the depth, utter impenetrability, and the profound mystery of the Dao.

[link to en.m.wikipedia.org (secure)]

See also Neo-Taoism:
[link to plato.stanford.edu (secure)]


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Ones true nature is 'unconditional love'

You think a creation of god could not be?

You claim the eyes you look from as your own, they're not,
you had nothing to do with their creation.

Do you think what is looking from gods eyes is flawed or
lacking in some way?

We are children of god created in perfection.

God does not hide these truths, its you who is hiding from truth.8]
\7]

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Xuanxue or “Dark Learning”


Xuanxue is a metaphysical post-classical Chinese philosophy from the Six Dynasties (222-589), bringing together Daoist and Confucian beliefs through revision and discussion. The movement found its scriptural support both in Daoist and drastically-reinterpreted Confucian sources. Xuanxue, or "Dark Learning”, came to reign supreme in cultural circles, especially at Jiankang during the period of division. The concept represented the more abstract, unworldly, and idealistic tendency in early medieval Chinese thought. Xuanxue philosophers combined elements of Confucianism and Taoism to reinterpret the I Ching, Tao Te Ching and Zhuangzi.

The name first compounds xuan: "black, dark; mysterious, profound, abstruse, arcane." It occurs in the first chapter of the Tao Te Ching. The word xuan literally depicts a shade of deep, dark red. Tao Te Ching speaks of the Dao as xuan, more specifically underpinning the depth, utter impenetrability, and the profound mystery of the Dao.

[link to en.m.wikipedia.org (secure)]

See also Neo-Taoism:
[link to plato.stanford.edu (secure)]


rose
 Quoting: Ordovician


From the second link

The Dao or “Way” is “formless” and “nameless,” as the Laozi asserts, and yet it is the “beginning” of “heaven and earth,” and the basis of human flourishing. Indescribably deep and profound, the Dao therefore can only be depicted as dark and hidden, or xuan (see especially Laozi,


Most religions teach to avoid the dark and unknown and fill the subject with fear programming and paranoia. Fear of the unknown is very powerful in humans, especially on a subconscious and unconscious level. Alchemy/transmutation of energies is not possible without facing the darkness. A very important step in detaching from the material, raising ones frequency and returning home
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Xuanxue or “Dark Learning”


Xuanxue is a metaphysical post-classical Chinese philosophy from the Six Dynasties (222-589), bringing together Daoist and Confucian beliefs through revision and discussion. The movement found its scriptural support both in Daoist and drastically-reinterpreted Confucian sources. Xuanxue, or "Dark Learning”, came to reign supreme in cultural circles, especially at Jiankang during the period of division. The concept represented the more abstract, unworldly, and idealistic tendency in early medieval Chinese thought. Xuanxue philosophers combined elements of Confucianism and Taoism to reinterpret the I Ching, Tao Te Ching and Zhuangzi.

The name first compounds xuan: "black, dark; mysterious, profound, abstruse, arcane." It occurs in the first chapter of the Tao Te Ching. The word xuan literally depicts a shade of deep, dark red. Tao Te Ching speaks of the Dao as xuan, more specifically underpinning the depth, utter impenetrability, and the profound mystery of the Dao.

[link to en.m.wikipedia.org (secure)]

See also Neo-Taoism:
[link to plato.stanford.edu (secure)]


rose
 Quoting: Ordovician


From the second link

The Dao or “Way” is “formless” and “nameless,” as the Laozi asserts, and yet it is the “beginning” of “heaven and earth,” and the basis of human flourishing. Indescribably deep and profound, the Dao therefore can only be depicted as dark and hidden, or xuan (see especially Laozi,


Most religions teach to avoid the dark and unknown and fill the subject with fear programming and paranoia. Fear of the unknown is very powerful in humans, especially on a subconscious and unconscious level. Alchemy/transmutation of energies is not possible without facing the darkness. A very important step in detaching from the material, raising ones frequency and returning home
 Quoting: Xenophon


Good thoughts.

It’s important to remember that “dark” here means something close to “mysterious and primordial” rather than “evil.”

GLP does not support Chinese characters but the character used here is one of the most difficult to translate into English. It’s not exactly “dark” and it’s not exactly “mysterious....” an explanatory “image” is something like: “a deserted rustic road at early dusk as late-day trembles on the edge of early-evening” or it is also associated with a shade of red so dark as to be almost a color “dark beyond red.”
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The foolish ones take the signs and the patterns of heaven and earth as sagehood, because sagehood is unfathomable. As they deem it to be unfathomable, people refrain from inquiring into its principles. They consider it sagehood but do not know what makes it sagehood
 Quoting: Xenophon



bump for the astrology tards
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75600844


If not inquiring into its principles. It's an interesting passage; it doesn't say it is not sagehood. (i think scratching)
 Quoting: syncro


Planets and celestial bodies are a legitimate part of our environment. Another aspect of weather, it shouldn't define or control us. When it's cold we can wear warm clothes or turn on a heater, same way self can cultivate energy to counteract stimuli from astrological forces, whether one wants to deflect, channel and/or transmute the energies
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hey buddy, hope everything s well on your side
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Xuanxue or “Dark Learning”


Xuanxue is a metaphysical post-classical Chinese philosophy from the Six Dynasties (222-589), bringing together Daoist and Confucian beliefs through revision and discussion. The movement found its scriptural support both in Daoist and drastically-reinterpreted Confucian sources. Xuanxue, or "Dark Learning”, came to reign supreme in cultural circles, especially at Jiankang during the period of division. The concept represented the more abstract, unworldly, and idealistic tendency in early medieval Chinese thought. Xuanxue philosophers combined elements of Confucianism and Taoism to reinterpret the I Ching, Tao Te Ching and Zhuangzi.

The name first compounds xuan: "black, dark; mysterious, profound, abstruse, arcane." It occurs in the first chapter of the Tao Te Ching. The word xuan literally depicts a shade of deep, dark red. Tao Te Ching speaks of the Dao as xuan, more specifically underpinning the depth, utter impenetrability, and the profound mystery of the Dao.

[link to en.m.wikipedia.org (secure)]

See also Neo-Taoism:
[link to plato.stanford.edu (secure)]


rose
 Quoting: Ordovician


From the second link

The Dao or “Way” is “formless” and “nameless,” as the Laozi asserts, and yet it is the “beginning” of “heaven and earth,” and the basis of human flourishing. Indescribably deep and profound, the Dao therefore can only be depicted as dark and hidden, or xuan (see especially Laozi,


Most religions teach to avoid the dark and unknown and fill the subject with fear programming and paranoia. Fear of the unknown is very powerful in humans, especially on a subconscious and unconscious level. Alchemy/transmutation of energies is not possible without facing the darkness. A very important step in detaching from the material, raising ones frequency and returning home
 Quoting: Xenophon


Good thoughts.

It’s important to remember that “dark” here means something close to “mysterious and primordial” rather than “evil.”

GLP does not support Chinese characters but the character used here is one of the most difficult to translate into English. It’s not exactly “dark” and it’s not exactly “mysterious....” an explanatory “image” is something like: “a deserted rustic road at early dusk as late-day trembles on the edge of early-evening” or it is also associated with a shade of red so dark as to be almost a color “dark beyond red.”
 Quoting: Ordovician


Definitely, definitions of dark are dubious at best. In this context unknown, mysterious and primordial fit best. That's why so many false narratives based on fear programming and paranoia are inserted into the topic by many cults/religions to prevent people from inquiring into the true nature of it all. Listen all y'all it's a Sabotage!

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hey buddy, hope everything s well on your side
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Good to see you, likewise. Doing much better thanks, has been a wild ride

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...@ WIKIPEDIA "TAOISM"...bumpcold
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