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How to determine the true Pentecost date and why it is a possible time of the rapture before the new world order begins

 
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There are 3 harvests in the bible:

1. Feast of unleavened bread/Passover...which is barley harvest


Barley




2. Feast of Pentecost/feast of weeks...which is a wheat harvest


wheat

3. Feast of Tabernacles/feast of booths...which is a grape harvest


grapes

The interesting thing about Passover harvest and Tabernacles harvest is Passover lasts 8 full days...and Tabernacles lasts 7 full days. We are never given a time frame of how long the Pentecost harvest is to last...It's pretty logical that if the other 2 harvests last a week that Pentecost also would last a week..so here is calendars showing the count that leads up to Pentecost week:



We start the count by the information given in Leviticus 23:

10 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When ye be come into the land which I give unto you, and shall reap the harvest thereof, then ye shall bring a sheaf of the firstfruits of your harvest unto the priest:

11 And he shall wave the sheaf before the Lord, to be accepted for you: on the morrow after the sabbath the priest shall wave it.




So we see the first day of Passover is the 9th this year..the following day after the saturday sabbath is sunday and we have Jesus raising from the dead being our high priest representing the sheaf of first fruits.

april


10 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When ye be come into the land which I give unto you, and shall reap the harvest thereof, then ye shall bring a sheaf of the firstfruits of your harvest unto the priest:

11 And he shall wave the sheaf before the Lord, to be accepted for you: on the morrow after the sabbath the priest shall wave it.

12 And ye shall offer that day when ye wave the sheaf an he lamb without blemish of the first year for a burnt offering unto the Lord.

13 And the meat offering thereof shall be two tenth deals of fine flour mingled with oil, an offering made by fire unto the Lord for a sweet savour: and the drink offering thereof shall be of wine, the fourth part of an hin.

14 And ye shall eat neither bread, nor parched corn, nor green ears, until the selfsame day that ye have brought an offering unto your God: it shall be a statute for ever throughout your generations in all your dwellings.

15 And ye shall count unto you from the morrow after the sabbath, from the day that ye brought the sheaf of the wave offering; seven sabbaths shall be complete:



Jesus waved the sheaf on Sunday the day after the sabbath so we start our count on the following Saturday sabbath

april

16 Even unto the morrow after the seventh sabbath shall ye number fifty days; and ye shall offer a new meat offering unto the Lord.



12 And ye shall offer that day when ye wave the sheaf an he lamb without blemish of the first year for a burnt offering unto the Lord.

13 And the meat offering thereof shall be two tenth deals of fine flour mingled with oil, an offering made by fire unto the Lord for a sweet savour: and the drink offering thereof shall be of wine, the fourth part of an hin.

14 And ye shall eat neither bread, nor parched corn, nor green ears, until the selfsame day that ye have brought an offering unto your God: it shall be a statute for ever throughout your generations in all your dwellings.

15 And ye shall count unto you from the morrow after the sabbath, from the day that ye brought the sheaf of the wave offering; seven sabbaths shall be complete:

16 Even unto the morrow after the seventh sabbath shall ye number fifty days; and ye shall offer a new meat offering unto the Lord.


Let's start the 50 day count to Pentecost wheat harvest week:

april
may23
june23
july23






So do we know the "day and hour"? No....do we know the week the time and the season that the wheat harvest happens this year? We do....keeps those lamps full...the bill gates mandatory vaccine is coming soon and the bride isn't going to be here for that.



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The Rabbis teach that SPRING WHEAT -- that which is planted in the spring and reaped four months later in the summer -- cannot be eaten until the following year because it is considered chodosh/NEW grain/meat. Not realizing that YEHOVAH God commanded the NEW GRAIN OFFERING (which would be from the Pentecost wheat and therefore the spring wheat that is harvested in the summer) to be the true Pentecost wheat, they blindly teach an early Pentecost (Shavuot) in the Hebrew month of Sivan. They believe that anything planted during or after Passover cannot be eaten until after the next Passover wave sheaf has been waved.
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I notice not a single scripture was ever quoted to backup this crap. Thus the way with phony christians. Rapture the word, is not even in the Bible.
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I notice not a single scripture was ever quoted to backup this crap. Thus the way with phony christians. Rapture the word, is not even in the Bible.
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I was putting in layman's terms the actual word is harpozo



What is the “harpazo?”
The term “rapture” is more commonly used than harpazo and is not found in the Bible. While you will not find that exact word through a word search, the meaning of the words that are written remains the same and conveys the same idea. The term “rapture” comes from the Latin verb rapiemur which means “to seize, snatch, carry away.” This is the same meaning behind the Greek word that is found in the Bible, harpazo. It is found in the following scripture, which is the “harpazo” passage.

1 Thessalonians 4:15-18
For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up [G726 harpazo] together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. Wherefore comfort one another with these words.
So while the word rapture is technically not in the Bible, the idea behind that Latin word represents the same idea of being caught up together to meet the Lord in the air as stated in scripture.

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I notice not a single scripture was ever quoted to backup this crap. Thus the way with phony christians. Rapture the word, is not even in the Bible.
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Psalm 1

1 Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful.

2 But his delight is in the law of the Lord; and in his law doth he meditate day and night.



The OP is meditating on God's Word

He is obeying Psalm 1 (by meditating)
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Again showing pentecost is a summer harvest:




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Three harvests Passover/barley....Pentecost/wheat...Tabernacles/grapes:

The barley harvest was at Jesus resurrection when Old Testament saints were raised with him

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barley


You want to be of the next harvest which is the wheat harvest because the third harvest is the grape harvest and doesn't happen until after the final 7 year tribulation:

Next harvest Pentecost/wheat:

wheat

Final harvest Tabernales/grape harvest after the tribulation:

grapes

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Estimated number of lives ever lived on the planet 107 billion

Number of saved in the bible

107000000000 / 144000 = 743055.556 (Let's round up to 744000)

144000 * 744000 = 107136000000 (The number of people ever lived on this planet)

107136000000 / 16 = 6696000000 ( This shows that the earth is a simulation)
107136000000 / 9 = 11904000000

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Nostradamus Century 1: Quatrain 50
From the water trinity will be born,
One who will make Thursday as his holiday.
His renown, praise, rule, and power increase,
By land and sea to the East by storm.
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Very exhaustive review showing a July Pentecost from multiple timelines. Read comments on first video where author calculates that Pentecost 2020 begins tonight (Sunday night).





The previous two videos are from 2016. This is his latest recap from a month ago...


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“And he brought them out and said, 'Sirs, what must I do to be saved?' So they said, 'Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you will be saved, you and your household.'" Acts 16:30-31
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I notice not a single scripture was ever quoted to backup this crap. Thus the way with phony christians. Rapture the word, is not even in the Bible.
 Quoting: Hobgoblin238


Psalm 1

1 Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful.

2 But his delight is in the law of the Lord; and in his law doth he meditate day and night.



The OP is meditating on God's Word

He is obeying Psalm 1 (by meditating)
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aaaannnnnnddddd the word rapture is still not in the Bible. What did Revelation say about adding things to scripture? Hmm....
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What about people with gluten allergies, where do they play out in all this?
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"So, for 2020, we are to count and complete April 15th as the first Sabbath to count because it is the 7th day of ULB, which is a high Sabbath.

Then we count & complete 6 weekly Sabbaths, for a total of 7 Sabbaths counted and completed. That last weekly Sabbath is on May 23rd. We begin the 50-day count once that last weekly Sabbath is completed.

Thus, May 24th is day 01 of the 50-day count. Day 50 is Pentecost. It appears this will be on July 13th, starting after the sunset of July 12th."

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“And he brought them out and said, 'Sirs, what must I do to be saved?' So they said, 'Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you will be saved, you and your household.'" Acts 16:30-31
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"So, for 2020, we are to count and complete April 15th as the first Sabbath to count because it is the 7th day of ULB, which is a high Sabbath.

Then we count & complete 6 weekly Sabbaths, for a total of 7 Sabbaths counted and completed. That last weekly Sabbath is on May 23rd. We begin the 50-day count once that last weekly Sabbath is completed.

Thus, May 24th is day 01 of the 50-day count. Day 50 is Pentecost. It appears this will be on July 13th, starting after the sunset of July 12th."

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The jues have it calculated as May 31st 2020 and that should be the start of the 50 day count they are off...but it never hurts to be ready a week early...lol

may23



jues calculated day of Pentecost:

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I would like to contribute to this thread.

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every little bit helps...thanks for contributing what you were able..lol
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There are 3 harvests in the bible:

1. Feast of unleavened bread/Passover...which is barley harvest


Barley




2. Feast of Pentecost/feast of weeks...which is a wheat harvest


wheat

3. Feast of Tabernacles/feast of booths...which is a grape harvest


grapes

The interesting thing about Passover harvest and Tabernacles harvest is Passover lasts 8 full days...and Tabernacles lasts 7 full days. We are never given a time frame of how long the Pentecost harvest is to last...It's pretty logical that if the other 2 harvests last a week that Pentecost also would last a week..so here is calendars showing the count that leads up to Pentecost week:



We start the count by the information given in Leviticus 23:

10 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When ye be come into the land which I give unto you, and shall reap the harvest thereof, then ye shall bring a sheaf of the firstfruits of your harvest unto the priest:

11 And he shall wave the sheaf before the Lord, to be accepted for you: on the morrow after the sabbath the priest shall wave it.




So we see the first day of Passover is the 9th this year..the following day after the saturday sabbath is sunday and we have Jesus raising from the dead being our high priest representing the sheaf of first fruits.

april


10 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When ye be come into the land which I give unto you, and shall reap the harvest thereof, then ye shall bring a sheaf of the firstfruits of your harvest unto the priest:

11 And he shall wave the sheaf before the Lord, to be accepted for you: on the morrow after the sabbath the priest shall wave it.

12 And ye shall offer that day when ye wave the sheaf an he lamb without blemish of the first year for a burnt offering unto the Lord.

13 And the meat offering thereof shall be two tenth deals of fine flour mingled with oil, an offering made by fire unto the Lord for a sweet savour: and the drink offering thereof shall be of wine, the fourth part of an hin.

14 And ye shall eat neither bread, nor parched corn, nor green ears, until the selfsame day that ye have brought an offering unto your God: it shall be a statute for ever throughout your generations in all your dwellings.

15 And ye shall count unto you from the morrow after the sabbath, from the day that ye brought the sheaf of the wave offering; seven sabbaths shall be complete:



Jesus waved the sheaf on Sunday the day after the sabbath so we start our count on the following Saturday sabbath

april

16 Even unto the morrow after the seventh sabbath shall ye number fifty days; and ye shall offer a new meat offering unto the Lord.



12 And ye shall offer that day when ye wave the sheaf an he lamb without blemish of the first year for a burnt offering unto the Lord.

13 And the meat offering thereof shall be two tenth deals of fine flour mingled with oil, an offering made by fire unto the Lord for a sweet savour: and the drink offering thereof shall be of wine, the fourth part of an hin.

14 And ye shall eat neither bread, nor parched corn, nor green ears, until the selfsame day that ye have brought an offering unto your God: it shall be a statute for ever throughout your generations in all your dwellings.

15 And ye shall count unto you from the morrow after the sabbath, from the day that ye brought the sheaf of the wave offering; seven sabbaths shall be complete:

16 Even unto the morrow after the seventh sabbath shall ye number fifty days; and ye shall offer a new meat offering unto the Lord.


Let's start the 50 day count to Pentecost wheat harvest week:

april
may23
june23
july23






So do we know the "day and hour"? No....do we know the week the time and the season that the wheat harvest happens this year? We do....keeps those lamps full...the bill gates mandatory vaccine is coming soon and the bride isn't going to be here for that.



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The new world order will not happen.. we have begun the Millennial Reign of Christ Jesus. Pentecost has no importance at all.. we live in the NOW and not 2000 years ago... There was a harvest at the time he left or shortly after.. there was a small one about 1000 AD... and we are currently in one now.
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Nope there are still 2 harvests left the wheat and the grapes

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There are 3 harvests in the bible:

1. Feast of unleavened bread/Passover...which is barley harvest


:Barley:




2. Feast of Pentecost/feast of weeks...which is a wheat harvest


:wheat:

3. Feast of Tabernacles/feast of booths...which is a grape harvest


:grapes:

The interesting thing about Passover harvest and Tabernacles harvest is Passover lasts 8 full days...and Tabernacles lasts 7 full days. We are never given a time frame of how long the Pentecost harvest is to last...It's pretty logical that if the other 2 harvests last a week that Pentecost also would last a week..so here is calendars showing the count that leads up to Pentecost week:



We start the count by the information given in Leviticus 23:

10 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When ye be come into the land which I give unto you, and shall reap the harvest thereof, then ye shall bring a sheaf of the firstfruits of your harvest unto the priest:

11 And he shall wave the sheaf before the Lord, to be accepted for you: on the morrow after the sabbath the priest shall wave it.




So we see the first day of Passover is the 9th this year..the following day after the saturday sabbath is sunday and we have Jesus raising from the dead being our high priest representing the sheaf of first fruits.

:april:


10 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When ye be come into the land which I give unto you, and shall reap the harvest thereof, then ye shall bring a sheaf of the firstfruits of your harvest unto the priest:

11 And he shall wave the sheaf before the Lord, to be accepted for you: on the morrow after the sabbath the priest shall wave it.

12 And ye shall offer that day when ye wave the sheaf an he lamb without blemish of the first year for a burnt offering unto the Lord.

13 And the meat offering thereof shall be two tenth deals of fine flour mingled with oil, an offering made by fire unto the Lord for a sweet savour: and the drink offering thereof shall be of wine, the fourth part of an hin.

14 And ye shall eat neither bread, nor parched corn, nor green ears, until the selfsame day that ye have brought an offering unto your God: it shall be a statute for ever throughout your generations in all your dwellings.

15 And ye shall count unto you from the morrow after the sabbath, from the day that ye brought the sheaf of the wave offering; seven sabbaths shall be complete:



Jesus waved the sheaf on Sunday the day after the sabbath so we start our count on the following Saturday sabbath

:april:

16 Even unto the morrow after the seventh sabbath shall ye number fifty days; and ye shall offer a new meat offering unto the Lord.



12 And ye shall offer that day when ye wave the sheaf an he lamb without blemish of the first year for a burnt offering unto the Lord.

13 And the meat offering thereof shall be two tenth deals of fine flour mingled with oil, an offering made by fire unto the Lord for a sweet savour: and the drink offering thereof shall be of wine, the fourth part of an hin.

14 And ye shall eat neither bread, nor parched corn, nor green ears, until the selfsame day that ye have brought an offering unto your God: it shall be a statute for ever throughout your generations in all your dwellings.

15 And ye shall count unto you from the morrow after the sabbath, from the day that ye brought the sheaf of the wave offering; seven sabbaths shall be complete:

16 Even unto the morrow after the seventh sabbath shall ye number fifty days; and ye shall offer a new meat offering unto the Lord.


Let's start the 50 day count to Pentecost wheat harvest week:

:april:
:may23:
:june23:
:july23:






So do we know the "day and hour"? No....do we know the week the time and the season that the wheat harvest happens this year? We do....keeps those lamps full...the bill gates mandatory vaccine is coming soon and the bride isn't going to be here for that.



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Wrong, wrong wrong!! There's 7 feasts...Jesus fufilled the first 4 with his death, resurrection and sending of the Holy Spirit. The next one he fufills is the feast of trumpets when he returns.. With a trumpet blast. That's when the rapture happens...after the tribulation. Rapture is false doctrine that came around only 150 years ago. We don't get out if this easy, God's people must prove their love for him.
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Acts 1:3
To whom also He shewed himself alive after His passion by many infallible proofs, being seen of them forty days, and speaking of the things pertaining to the kingdom of EL:

4
And, being assembled together with them, commanded them that they should not depart from Jerusalem, but wait for the promise of the Father, which, saith He, ye have heard of Me.


Acts 2:1
And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place.


Pentecost = "the fiftieth day"


YESHUA appears to His disciples for 40 days following His resurrection and tells them to wait until Pentecost, the fiftieth day for the promise of the Holy Spirit.


This thread is Retarded, Biblically speaking.

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The new world order will not happen.. we have begun the Millennial Reign of Christ Jesus. Pentecost has no importance at all.. we live in the NOW and not 2000 years ago... There was a harvest at the time he left or shortly after.. there was a small one about 1000 AD... and we are currently in one now.
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NOPE. the millennial reign doesn't begin until after the tribulation period, where satan of nebadon's antichrist comes to power.

the only "harvest" is the rapture/resurrection event in which those who belong to Christ, both living and dead, are taken.

those of wicked and evil urantia cult are left behinds.....they stay here and will serve the coming antichrist.
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There are 3 harvests in the bible:

1. Feast of unleavened bread/Passover...which is barley harvest


:Barley:




2. Feast of Pentecost/feast of weeks...which is a wheat harvest


:wheat:

3. Feast of Tabernacles/feast of booths...which is a grape harvest


:grapes:

The interesting thing about Passover harvest and Tabernacles harvest is Passover lasts 8 full days...and Tabernacles lasts 7 full days. We are never given a time frame of how long the Pentecost harvest is to last...It's pretty logical that if the other 2 harvests last a week that Pentecost also would last a week..so here is calendars showing the count that leads up to Pentecost week:



We start the count by the information given in Leviticus 23:

10 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When ye be come into the land which I give unto you, and shall reap the harvest thereof, then ye shall bring a sheaf of the firstfruits of your harvest unto the priest:

11 And he shall wave the sheaf before the Lord, to be accepted for you: on the morrow after the sabbath the priest shall wave it.




So we see the first day of Passover is the 9th this year..the following day after the saturday sabbath is sunday and we have Jesus raising from the dead being our high priest representing the sheaf of first fruits.

:april:


10 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When ye be come into the land which I give unto you, and shall reap the harvest thereof, then ye shall bring a sheaf of the firstfruits of your harvest unto the priest:

11 And he shall wave the sheaf before the Lord, to be accepted for you: on the morrow after the sabbath the priest shall wave it.

12 And ye shall offer that day when ye wave the sheaf an he lamb without blemish of the first year for a burnt offering unto the Lord.

13 And the meat offering thereof shall be two tenth deals of fine flour mingled with oil, an offering made by fire unto the Lord for a sweet savour: and the drink offering thereof shall be of wine, the fourth part of an hin.

14 And ye shall eat neither bread, nor parched corn, nor green ears, until the selfsame day that ye have brought an offering unto your God: it shall be a statute for ever throughout your generations in all your dwellings.

15 And ye shall count unto you from the morrow after the sabbath, from the day that ye brought the sheaf of the wave offering; seven sabbaths shall be complete:



Jesus waved the sheaf on Sunday the day after the sabbath so we start our count on the following Saturday sabbath

:april:

16 Even unto the morrow after the seventh sabbath shall ye number fifty days; and ye shall offer a new meat offering unto the Lord.



12 And ye shall offer that day when ye wave the sheaf an he lamb without blemish of the first year for a burnt offering unto the Lord.

13 And the meat offering thereof shall be two tenth deals of fine flour mingled with oil, an offering made by fire unto the Lord for a sweet savour: and the drink offering thereof shall be of wine, the fourth part of an hin.

14 And ye shall eat neither bread, nor parched corn, nor green ears, until the selfsame day that ye have brought an offering unto your God: it shall be a statute for ever throughout your generations in all your dwellings.

15 And ye shall count unto you from the morrow after the sabbath, from the day that ye brought the sheaf of the wave offering; seven sabbaths shall be complete:

16 Even unto the morrow after the seventh sabbath shall ye number fifty days; and ye shall offer a new meat offering unto the Lord.


Let's start the 50 day count to Pentecost wheat harvest week:

:april:
:may23:
:june23:
:july23:






So do we know the "day and hour"? No....do we know the week the time and the season that the wheat harvest happens this year? We do....keeps those lamps full...the bill gates mandatory vaccine is coming soon and the bride isn't going to be here for that.



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 Quoting: waterman


Wrong, wrong wrong!! There's 7 feasts...Jesus fufilled the first 4 with his death, resurrection and sending of the Holy Spirit. The next one he fufills is the feast of trumpets when he returns.. With a trumpet blast. That's when the rapture happens...after the tribulation. Rapture is false doctrine that came around only 150 years ago. We don't get out if this easy, God's people must prove their love for him.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74627644


Also...did you know the feast of trumpets is the only festival that no one knows the day or the hour every year? 2 men wait and watch for the sliver of the moon to appear within a 2 day window and when it appears one blows the shofar!
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There are 3 harvests in the bible:

1. Feast of unleavened bread/Passover...which is barley harvest


Barley




2. Feast of Pentecost/feast of weeks...which is a wheat harvest


wheat

3. Feast of Tabernacles/feast of booths...which is a grape harvest


grapes

The interesting thing about Passover harvest and Tabernacles harvest is Passover lasts 8 full days...and Tabernacles lasts 7 full days. We are never given a time frame of how long the Pentecost harvest is to last...It's pretty logical that if the other 2 harvests last a week that Pentecost also would last a week..so here is calendars showing the count that leads up to Pentecost week:



We start the count by the information given in Leviticus 23:

10 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When ye be come into the land which I give unto you, and shall reap the harvest thereof, then ye shall bring a sheaf of the firstfruits of your harvest unto the priest:

11 And he shall wave the sheaf before the Lord, to be accepted for you: on the morrow after the sabbath the priest shall wave it.




So we see the first day of Passover is the 9th this year..the following day after the saturday sabbath is sunday and we have Jesus raising from the dead being our high priest representing the sheaf of first fruits.

april


10 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When ye be come into the land which I give unto you, and shall reap the harvest thereof, then ye shall bring a sheaf of the firstfruits of your harvest unto the priest:

11 And he shall wave the sheaf before the Lord, to be accepted for you: on the morrow after the sabbath the priest shall wave it.

12 And ye shall offer that day when ye wave the sheaf an he lamb without blemish of the first year for a burnt offering unto the Lord.

13 And the meat offering thereof shall be two tenth deals of fine flour mingled with oil, an offering made by fire unto the Lord for a sweet savour: and the drink offering thereof shall be of wine, the fourth part of an hin.

14 And ye shall eat neither bread, nor parched corn, nor green ears, until the selfsame day that ye have brought an offering unto your God: it shall be a statute for ever throughout your generations in all your dwellings.

15 And ye shall count unto you from the morrow after the sabbath, from the day that ye brought the sheaf of the wave offering; seven sabbaths shall be complete:



Jesus waved the sheaf on Sunday the day after the sabbath so we start our count on the following Saturday sabbath

april

16 Even unto the morrow after the seventh sabbath shall ye number fifty days; and ye shall offer a new meat offering unto the Lord.



12 And ye shall offer that day when ye wave the sheaf an he lamb without blemish of the first year for a burnt offering unto the Lord.

13 And the meat offering thereof shall be two tenth deals of fine flour mingled with oil, an offering made by fire unto the Lord for a sweet savour: and the drink offering thereof shall be of wine, the fourth part of an hin.

14 And ye shall eat neither bread, nor parched corn, nor green ears, until the selfsame day that ye have brought an offering unto your God: it shall be a statute for ever throughout your generations in all your dwellings.

15 And ye shall count unto you from the morrow after the sabbath, from the day that ye brought the sheaf of the wave offering; seven sabbaths shall be complete:

16 Even unto the morrow after the seventh sabbath shall ye number fifty days; and ye shall offer a new meat offering unto the Lord.


Let's start the 50 day count to Pentecost wheat harvest week:

april
may23
june23
july23






So do we know the "day and hour"? No....do we know the week the time and the season that the wheat harvest happens this year? We do....keeps those lamps full...the bill gates mandatory vaccine is coming soon and the bride isn't going to be here for that.



wisevirgins1
 Quoting: waterman


Wrong, wrong wrong!! There's 7 feasts...Jesus fufilled the first 4 with his death, resurrection and sending of the Holy Spirit. The next one he fufills is the feast of trumpets when he returns.. With a trumpet blast. That's when the rapture happens...after the tribulation. Rapture is false doctrine that came around only 150 years ago. We don't get out if this easy, God's people must prove their love for him.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74627644



Jesus only fulfilled 3 1/2 feasts as Pentecost is a wheat harvest feast and Jesus hasn’t harvested the wheat yet...just as the final 70th week is divided into 3 1/2 and 3 1/2 for a total of 7
-Heed the warning or endure the mourning
Favor ain't fair
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Re: How to determine the true Pentecost date and why it is a possible time of the rapture before the new world order begins
There are 3 harvests in the bible:

1. Feast of unleavened bread/Passover...which is barley harvest


:Barley:




2. Feast of Pentecost/feast of weeks...which is a wheat harvest


:wheat:

3. Feast of Tabernacles/feast of booths...which is a grape harvest


:grapes:

The interesting thing about Passover harvest and Tabernacles harvest is Passover lasts 8 full days...and Tabernacles lasts 7 full days. We are never given a time frame of how long the Pentecost harvest is to last...It's pretty logical that if the other 2 harvests last a week that Pentecost also would last a week..so here is calendars showing the count that leads up to Pentecost week:



We start the count by the information given in Leviticus 23:

10 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When ye be come into the land which I give unto you, and shall reap the harvest thereof, then ye shall bring a sheaf of the firstfruits of your harvest unto the priest:

11 And he shall wave the sheaf before the Lord, to be accepted for you: on the morrow after the sabbath the priest shall wave it.




So we see the first day of Passover is the 9th this year..the following day after the saturday sabbath is sunday and we have Jesus raising from the dead being our high priest representing the sheaf of first fruits.

:april:


10 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When ye be come into the land which I give unto you, and shall reap the harvest thereof, then ye shall bring a sheaf of the firstfruits of your harvest unto the priest:

11 And he shall wave the sheaf before the Lord, to be accepted for you: on the morrow after the sabbath the priest shall wave it.

12 And ye shall offer that day when ye wave the sheaf an he lamb without blemish of the first year for a burnt offering unto the Lord.

13 And the meat offering thereof shall be two tenth deals of fine flour mingled with oil, an offering made by fire unto the Lord for a sweet savour: and the drink offering thereof shall be of wine, the fourth part of an hin.

14 And ye shall eat neither bread, nor parched corn, nor green ears, until the selfsame day that ye have brought an offering unto your God: it shall be a statute for ever throughout your generations in all your dwellings.

15 And ye shall count unto you from the morrow after the sabbath, from the day that ye brought the sheaf of the wave offering; seven sabbaths shall be complete:



Jesus waved the sheaf on Sunday the day after the sabbath so we start our count on the following Saturday sabbath

:april:

16 Even unto the morrow after the seventh sabbath shall ye number fifty days; and ye shall offer a new meat offering unto the Lord.



12 And ye shall offer that day when ye wave the sheaf an he lamb without blemish of the first year for a burnt offering unto the Lord.

13 And the meat offering thereof shall be two tenth deals of fine flour mingled with oil, an offering made by fire unto the Lord for a sweet savour: and the drink offering thereof shall be of wine, the fourth part of an hin.

14 And ye shall eat neither bread, nor parched corn, nor green ears, until the selfsame day that ye have brought an offering unto your God: it shall be a statute for ever throughout your generations in all your dwellings.

15 And ye shall count unto you from the morrow after the sabbath, from the day that ye brought the sheaf of the wave offering; seven sabbaths shall be complete:

16 Even unto the morrow after the seventh sabbath shall ye number fifty days; and ye shall offer a new meat offering unto the Lord.


Let's start the 50 day count to Pentecost wheat harvest week:

:april:
:may23:
:june23:
:july23:






So do we know the "day and hour"? No....do we know the week the time and the season that the wheat harvest happens this year? We do....keeps those lamps full...the bill gates mandatory vaccine is coming soon and the bride isn't going to be here for that.



:wisevirgins1:
 Quoting: waterman


Wrong, wrong wrong!! There's 7 feasts...Jesus fufilled the first 4 with his death, resurrection and sending of the Holy Spirit. The next one he fufills is the feast of trumpets when he returns.. With a trumpet blast. That's when the rapture happens...after the tribulation. Rapture is false doctrine that came around only 150 years ago. We don't get out if this easy, God's people must prove their love for him.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74627644



Jesus only fulfilled 3 1/2 feasts as Pentecost is a wheat harvest feast and Jesus hasn’t harvested the wheat yet...just as the final 70th week is divided into 3 1/2 and 3 1/2 for a total of 7
 Quoting: waterman


Incorrect. You need to look at the festivals...which the Hebrew translates appointments...it's Jesus who fulfills the as he is the lamb without blemish.
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Re: How to determine the true Pentecost date and why it is a possible time of the rapture before the new world order begins
There are 3 harvests in the bible:

1. Feast of unleavened bread/Passover...which is barley harvest


Barley




2. Feast of Pentecost/feast of weeks...which is a wheat harvest


wheat

3. Feast of Tabernacles/feast of booths...which is a grape harvest


grapes

The interesting thing about Passover harvest and Tabernacles harvest is Passover lasts 8 full days...and Tabernacles lasts 7 full days. We are never given a time frame of how long the Pentecost harvest is to last...It's pretty logical that if the other 2 harvests last a week that Pentecost also would last a week..so here is calendars showing the count that leads up to Pentecost week:



We start the count by the information given in Leviticus 23:

10 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When ye be come into the land which I give unto you, and shall reap the harvest thereof, then ye shall bring a sheaf of the firstfruits of your harvest unto the priest:

11 And he shall wave the sheaf before the Lord, to be accepted for you: on the morrow after the sabbath the priest shall wave it.




So we see the first day of Passover is the 9th this year..the following day after the saturday sabbath is sunday and we have Jesus raising from the dead being our high priest representing the sheaf of first fruits.

april


10 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When ye be come into the land which I give unto you, and shall reap the harvest thereof, then ye shall bring a sheaf of the firstfruits of your harvest unto the priest:

11 And he shall wave the sheaf before the Lord, to be accepted for you: on the morrow after the sabbath the priest shall wave it.

12 And ye shall offer that day when ye wave the sheaf an he lamb without blemish of the first year for a burnt offering unto the Lord.

13 And the meat offering thereof shall be two tenth deals of fine flour mingled with oil, an offering made by fire unto the Lord for a sweet savour: and the drink offering thereof shall be of wine, the fourth part of an hin.

14 And ye shall eat neither bread, nor parched corn, nor green ears, until the selfsame day that ye have brought an offering unto your God: it shall be a statute for ever throughout your generations in all your dwellings.

15 And ye shall count unto you from the morrow after the sabbath, from the day that ye brought the sheaf of the wave offering; seven sabbaths shall be complete:



Jesus waved the sheaf on Sunday the day after the sabbath so we start our count on the following Saturday sabbath

april

16 Even unto the morrow after the seventh sabbath shall ye number fifty days; and ye shall offer a new meat offering unto the Lord.



12 And ye shall offer that day when ye wave the sheaf an he lamb without blemish of the first year for a burnt offering unto the Lord.

13 And the meat offering thereof shall be two tenth deals of fine flour mingled with oil, an offering made by fire unto the Lord for a sweet savour: and the drink offering thereof shall be of wine, the fourth part of an hin.

14 And ye shall eat neither bread, nor parched corn, nor green ears, until the selfsame day that ye have brought an offering unto your God: it shall be a statute for ever throughout your generations in all your dwellings.

15 And ye shall count unto you from the morrow after the sabbath, from the day that ye brought the sheaf of the wave offering; seven sabbaths shall be complete:

16 Even unto the morrow after the seventh sabbath shall ye number fifty days; and ye shall offer a new meat offering unto the Lord.


Let's start the 50 day count to Pentecost wheat harvest week:

april
may23
june23
july23






So do we know the "day and hour"? No....do we know the week the time and the season that the wheat harvest happens this year? We do....keeps those lamps full...the bill gates mandatory vaccine is coming soon and the bride isn't going to be here for that.



wisevirgins1
 Quoting: waterman


Wrong, wrong wrong!! There's 7 feasts...Jesus fufilled the first 4 with his death, resurrection and sending of the Holy Spirit. The next one he fufills is the feast of trumpets when he returns.. With a trumpet blast. That's when the rapture happens...after the tribulation. Rapture is false doctrine that came around only 150 years ago. We don't get out if this easy, God's people must prove their love for him.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74627644



Jesus only fulfilled 3 1/2 feasts as Pentecost is a wheat harvest feast and Jesus hasn’t harvested the wheat yet...just as the final 70th week is divided into 3 1/2 and 3 1/2 for a total of 7
 Quoting: waterman


Incorrect. You need to look at the festivals...which the Hebrew translates appointments...it's Jesus who fulfills the as he is the lamb without blemish.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74627644


You need to study harvests in Leviticus 23...Feast of trumpets isn’t a harvest it is the beginning of Jacobs trouble...the final 3 feasts deal with the jues and tribulations saints
-Heed the warning or endure the mourning
Favor ain't fair
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Re: How to determine the true Pentecost date and why it is a possible time of the rapture before the new world order begins
All the fucking bullshit that Laodiceans rationalize....


True date of Pentecost? Doesn't fucking matter; not IF you're Ezekiel 36:26-27 Born-Again...

Read the verses: Father-God Says "I Will PUT MY Spirit Within YOU"!
26. A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
27. And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.


There's your Pentecost date... The date you Came Unto The Father and made your surrender.


There's no fucking rapture! Jesus Witnesses this in John 17:15.
13. And now come I to thee; and these things I speak in the world, that they might have my joy fulfilled in themselves.
14. I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.
15. I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.
16. They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.


John 17 IS Jesus' Witness of The Born-Again Life, just as Ezekiel 36:26-27 Is Father's Witness of The Life HE Wants To Enable For Us; The Born-Again Life....

"Marvel not that I Say unto you, Ye MUST Be Born-Again!" John 3:7


All the conjecture means NOTHING!
Can't Trust God enough to take action upon your Faith?
Then, your Faith is dead; was never Alive!


Coming Unto The Father is the Whole Purpose of Jesus and The Gospel. You either Trust HIM Fully, or you don't...

Want to KNOW? Takes Being Born-Again to KNOW Father-God and What HIS Will IS For You... Takes Having God The Holy Spirit Dwell Within to Have God Guide Your Life and Give You Witness To Live By.

You just can't KNOW, until Father-God Enables Your KNOWING!


Maranatha!!!
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All the fucking bullshit that Laodiceans rationalize....


True date of Pentecost? Doesn't fucking matter; not IF you're Ezekiel 36:26-27 Born-Again...

Read the verses: Father-God Says "I Will PUT MY Spirit Within YOU"!
26. A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
27. And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.


There's your Pentecost date... The date you Came Unto The Father and made your surrender.


There's no fucking rapture! Jesus Witnesses this in John 17:15.
13. And now come I to thee; and these things I speak in the world, that they might have my joy fulfilled in themselves.
14. I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.
15. I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.
16. They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.


John 17 IS Jesus' Witness of The Born-Again Life, just as Ezekiel 36:26-27 Is Father's Witness of The Life HE Wants To Enable For Us; The Born-Again Life....

"Marvel not that I Say unto you, Ye MUST Be Born-Again!" John 3:7


All the conjecture means NOTHING!
Can't Trust God enough to take action upon your Faith?
Then, your Faith is dead; was never Alive!


Coming Unto The Father is the Whole Purpose of Jesus and The Gospel. You either Trust HIM Fully, or you don't...

Want to KNOW? Takes Being Born-Again to KNOW Father-God and What HIS Will IS For You... Takes Having God The Holy Spirit Dwell Within to Have God Guide Your Life and Give You Witness To Live By.

You just can't KNOW, until Father-God Enables Your KNOWING!


Maranatha!!!
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We may not know the day and hour but we can know the times and seasons...the time is the week of Pentecost and the season is the harvest
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Re: How to determine the true Pentecost date and why it is a possible time of the rapture before the new world order begins
The rapture is an un-Biblical idea Dispensationalists (Marxists) brought into the US to subvert them.

Your Christian friends in the East have been trying to wake you up to this fact.

Rome is bad, and so are the Marxist "Left Behind" people who lied to you, making you think what happened in 70AD is talking about the final end. 80% of Revelation and Daniel are talking about 70AD, not the "end of the World" (which isn't an "end," but rather the beginning of God's final restoration of this Earth back into Eden).






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