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Colt has begun shipping AR-15s to consumer market again

 
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” This month, more than 2,000 Colt LE6920s were shipped to commercial customers, The foreign and government business has stabilized, and Colt was able to get guns into commercial distribution this month. It likely will be able to do so again next month."

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They've finished supplying antifa and BLM protesters, so will the price keep going up due to demand, or down because they will be available again?
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Dont be stupid. All minorities have been stocking up for decades. They just dont tell you idiots nothing about it.
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Fuck colt.
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They just dont tell you idiots nothing about it.
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The guy using double negatives is calling other people idiots.

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NOTHING better than Colt bolt carrier groups and barrels.

THAT Is The Heart Of an Armalite pattern semi-auto.

Mil-Spec heat treatment and chrome-lining. Best grade steel by Mil-Spec.


Colt used to have a doctored-up lower which wouldn't allow an auto-sear. Not the early, early ones, but good luck finding one of those.

H-K won the defense dept contract for M-16s/M-4s ten years back or so. Their Mil-Spec AR gear also top-knotch.


Armalite barrels from late 90s to early 10s were also chrome-lined, or they were stainless. Chrome-lined much to be preferred. The AR (T) series rifles with lightweight fiberglass float tubes and match triggers are a quality item; as were their Eagle Arms lower price point rifles. Armalite was a great resource for parts and their specialty items up to 2010 or so when the company was sold. New owners not nearly as shooter community friendly...

Never terribly impressed with LMT or even Noveske. Gonna spend the money for a Name, go Knight's and don't look back.


For long barrel life, second best choice is the standard Chrome Moly steel. Nothing is gonna be much for precision once the throat is shot out, but when stainless barrels begin to wear, they lose chunks of barrel surface. C-M barrels "crack" like the mud-cracks on a dried lake bed. The stainless barrel that's worn is much more disruptive to bullet dynamics.


Also, might consider the Ramboish M-4 carbines really need match grade heavy bullets to put rounds on target much past 300yds. Full 20" barrel with longer gas system much more of a performer at distance. A 1:8 twist barrel of 18-20" is a 500yd plus proposition when fired with 68/69gr or 75/77gr bthp bullets.
 Quoting: Lester 1659909


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Colt sucks and milspec means the cheapest product that meets the MINIMUM quality tests.
Match grade is what you should be looking for.
Anyhow just got home from the range after testing my new 300Blk load. 17.6gr of Ramshot Enforcer w/ a Lehigh Defense 110gr Controlled Chaos bullet. Made a 1.25"group @ 100m out of an 8.5" pistol. Have 400 primed cases and 400 bullets to crank out now.
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Doesn't matter now. There's no ammo available anywhere.

Hell, you can't even find small rifle primers anywhere to reload.
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Doesn't matter now. There's no ammo available anywhere.

Hell, you can't even find small rifle primers anywhere to reload.
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You could have bought 1000 for 28$.....shoulda been the first thing to stock up on.
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NOTHING better than Colt bolt carrier groups and barrels.

THAT Is The Heart Of an Armalite pattern semi-auto.

Mil-Spec heat treatment and chrome-lining. Best grade steel by Mil-Spec.


Colt used to have a doctored-up lower which wouldn't allow an auto-sear. Not the early, early ones, but good luck finding one of those.

H-K won the defense dept contract for M-16s/M-4s ten years back or so. Their Mil-Spec AR gear also top-knotch.


Armalite barrels from late 90s to early 10s were also chrome-lined, or they were stainless. Chrome-lined much to be preferred. The AR (T) series rifles with lightweight fiberglass float tubes and match triggers are a quality item; as were their Eagle Arms lower price point rifles. Armalite was a great resource for parts and their specialty items up to 2010 or so when the company was sold. New owners not nearly as shooter community friendly...

Never terribly impressed with LMT or even Noveske. Gonna spend the money for a Name, go Knight's and don't look back.


For long barrel life, second best choice is the standard Chrome Moly steel. Nothing is gonna be much for precision once the throat is shot out, but when stainless barrels begin to wear, they lose chunks of barrel surface. C-M barrels "crack" like the mud-cracks on a dried lake bed. The stainless barrel that's worn is much more disruptive to bullet dynamics.


Also, might consider the Ramboish M-4 carbines really need match grade heavy bullets to put rounds on target much past 300yds. Full 20" barrel with longer gas system much more of a performer at distance. A 1:8 twist barrel of 18-20" is a 500yd plus proposition when fired with 68/69gr or 75/77gr bthp bullets.
 Quoting: Lester 1659909


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Colt sucks and milspec means the cheapest product that meets the MINIMUM quality tests.
Match grade is what you should be looking for.
Anyhow just got home from the range after testing my new 300Blk load. 17.6gr of Ramshot Enforcer w/ a Lehigh Defense 110gr Controlled Chaos bullet. Made a 1.25"group @ 100m out of an 8.5" pistol. Have 400 primed cases and 400 bullets to crank out now.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77812575


The Colt Service Rifle and their other 20" barreled AR rifles ARE pretty much the top of the line for production match rifles...

Sure, you might own a Compass Lake Engineering gun, or a Varmint model with 22-24" barrel from White Oak Precision and have a bit more precision capability. But... do you know anything about their components? While maybe you can get a Satern, or other cut-rifled match barrel; NONE of the custom shops are producing bolts and carrier groups to the metallurgy of Colt's.

Yeah, there are 6PPC based chamberings for AR-15 which take a larger bolt face than the 5.56x45; so what? Armalite has made magnum (.300saum) bolt faces for AR-10; still it ain't a Colt bolt...

Ever shoot an NRA match? Most of the Distinguished shooters win with just a plain RRA, Colt, Armalite, or Bushmaster DCM off the shelf rilfe. Even shooting them at 600yds.

It's the ammunition that matters, rarely the gun. Not like a 55gr or 62gr green tip will group at 600yds or even 300.


I got no use for any other chambering than 5.56x45 in an AR-15, or 7.62x51 in an AR-10. With 77bthp match, the AR-15 delivers out to 600yds. With 168bthp match the AR-15 will do at 800. I'm not looking to take shots at that distance, but the guns will deliver.

A DCM rifle looks pretty ordinary as ARs go these days. Kinda heavy with the float tube under the plastic. Yet, with only a decent sling, that rifle will shoot match loaded ammo under .5moa at 600yds.

A "match gun" that needs a big-ass scope and a F-class tripod rest with rear bunny bag is not a viable field solution.

A 10 or 11lb service rifle built AR-15 will deliver precision fire on a rapid basis if necessary, and the weight is a big factor. No free lunches. With the weight comes the precision at great distance and the steadiness shooting rapidfire.

Maybe if I were trying to go Distinguished I would have the $300 trigger and Compass Lake upper, but those aren't my goals.

Colt components are The American Gold Standard for AR-15 rifles.
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NOTHING better than Colt bolt carrier groups and barrels.

THAT Is The Heart Of an Armalite pattern semi-auto.

Mil-Spec heat treatment and chrome-lining. Best grade steel by Mil-Spec.


Colt used to have a doctored-up lower which wouldn't allow an auto-sear. Not the early, early ones, but good luck finding one of those.

H-K won the defense dept contract for M-16s/M-4s ten years back or so. Their Mil-Spec AR gear also top-knotch.


Armalite barrels from late 90s to early 10s were also chrome-lined, or they were stainless. Chrome-lined much to be preferred. The AR (T) series rifles with lightweight fiberglass float tubes and match triggers are a quality item; as were their Eagle Arms lower price point rifles. Armalite was a great resource for parts and their specialty items up to 2010 or so when the company was sold. New owners not nearly as shooter community friendly...

Never terribly impressed with LMT or even Noveske. Gonna spend the money for a Name, go Knight's and don't look back.


For long barrel life, second best choice is the standard Chrome Moly steel. Nothing is gonna be much for precision once the throat is shot out, but when stainless barrels begin to wear, they lose chunks of barrel surface. C-M barrels "crack" like the mud-cracks on a dried lake bed. The stainless barrel that's worn is much more disruptive to bullet dynamics.


Also, might consider the Ramboish M-4 carbines really need match grade heavy bullets to put rounds on target much past 300yds. Full 20" barrel with longer gas system much more of a performer at distance. A 1:8 twist barrel of 18-20" is a 500yd plus proposition when fired with 68/69gr or 75/77gr bthp bullets.
 Quoting: Lester 1659909


🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣&#12931​5;🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Colt sucks and milspec means the cheapest product that meets the MINIMUM quality tests.
Match grade is what you should be looking for.
Anyhow just got home from the range after testing my new 300Blk load. 17.6gr of Ramshot Enforcer w/ a Lehigh Defense 110gr Controlled Chaos bullet. Made a 1.25"group @ 100m out of an 8.5" pistol. Have 400 primed cases and 400 bullets to crank out now.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77812575


The Colt Service Rifle and their other 20" barreled AR rifles ARE pretty much the top of the line for production match rifles...

Sure, you might own a Compass Lake Engineering gun, or a Varmint model with 22-24" barrel from White Oak Precision and have a bit more precision capability. But... do you know anything about their components? While maybe you can get a Satern, or other cut-rifled match barrel; NONE of the custom shops are producing bolts and carrier groups to the metallurgy of Colt's.

Yeah, there are 6PPC based chamberings for AR-15 which take a larger bolt face than the 5.56x45; so what? Armalite has made magnum (.300saum) bolt faces for AR-10; still it ain't a Colt bolt...

Ever shoot an NRA match? Most of the Distinguished shooters win with just a plain RRA, Colt, Armalite, or Bushmaster DCM off the shelf rilfe. Even shooting them at 600yds.

It's the ammunition that matters, rarely the gun. Not like a 55gr or 62gr green tip will group at 600yds or even 300.


I got no use for any other chambering than 5.56x45 in an AR-15, or 7.62x51 in an AR-10. With 77bthp match, the AR-15 delivers out to 600yds. With 168bthp match the AR-15 will do at 800. I'm not looking to take shots at that distance, but the guns will deliver.

A DCM rifle looks pretty ordinary as ARs go these days. Kinda heavy with the float tube under the plastic. Yet, with only a decent sling, that rifle will shoot match loaded ammo under .5moa at 600yds.

A "match gun" that needs a big-ass scope and a F-class tripod rest with rear bunny bag is not a viable field solution.

A 10 or 11lb service rifle built AR-15 will deliver precision fire on a rapid basis if necessary, and the weight is a big factor. No free lunches. With the weight comes the precision at great distance and the steadiness shooting rapidfire.

Maybe if I were trying to go Distinguished I would have the $300 trigger and Compass Lake upper, but those aren't my goals.

Colt components are The American Gold Standard for AR-15 rifles.
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I'll still take a FN over a Colt.
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NOTHING better than Colt bolt carrier groups and barrels.

THAT Is The Heart Of an Armalite pattern semi-auto.

Mil-Spec heat treatment and chrome-lining. Best grade steel by Mil-Spec.


Colt used to have a doctored-up lower which wouldn't allow an auto-sear. Not the early, early ones, but good luck finding one of those.

H-K won the defense dept contract for M-16s/M-4s ten years back or so. Their Mil-Spec AR gear also top-knotch.


Armalite barrels from late 90s to early 10s were also chrome-lined, or they were stainless. Chrome-lined much to be preferred. The AR (T) series rifles with lightweight fiberglass float tubes and match triggers are a quality item; as were their Eagle Arms lower price point rifles. Armalite was a great resource for parts and their specialty items up to 2010 or so when the company was sold. New owners not nearly as shooter community friendly...

Never terribly impressed with LMT or even Noveske. Gonna spend the money for a Name, go Knight's and don't look back.


For long barrel life, second best choice is the standard Chrome Moly steel. Nothing is gonna be much for precision once the throat is shot out, but when stainless barrels begin to wear, they lose chunks of barrel surface. C-M barrels "crack" like the mud-cracks on a dried lake bed. The stainless barrel that's worn is much more disruptive to bullet dynamics.


Also, might consider the Ramboish M-4 carbines really need match grade heavy bullets to put rounds on target much past 300yds. Full 20" barrel with longer gas system much more of a performer at distance. A 1:8 twist barrel of 18-20" is a 500yd plus proposition when fired with 68/69gr or 75/77gr bthp bullets.
 Quoting: Lester 1659909


🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣&#12931​5;🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Colt sucks and milspec means the cheapest product that meets the MINIMUM quality tests.
Match grade is what you should be looking for.
Anyhow just got home from the range after testing my new 300Blk load. 17.6gr of Ramshot Enforcer w/ a Lehigh Defense 110gr Controlled Chaos bullet. Made a 1.25"group @ 100m out of an 8.5" pistol. Have 400 primed cases and 400 bullets to crank out now.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77812575


The Colt Service Rifle and their other 20" barreled AR rifles ARE pretty much the top of the line for production match rifles...

Sure, you might own a Compass Lake Engineering gun, or a Varmint model with 22-24" barrel from White Oak Precision and have a bit more precision capability. But... do you know anything about their components? While maybe you can get a Satern, or other cut-rifled match barrel; NONE of the custom shops are producing bolts and carrier groups to the metallurgy of Colt's.

Yeah, there are 6PPC based chamberings for AR-15 which take a larger bolt face than the 5.56x45; so what? Armalite has made magnum (.300saum) bolt faces for AR-10; still it ain't a Colt bolt...

Ever shoot an NRA match? Most of the Distinguished shooters win with just a plain RRA, Colt, Armalite, or Bushmaster DCM off the shelf rilfe. Even shooting them at 600yds.

It's the ammunition that matters, rarely the gun. Not like a 55gr or 62gr green tip will group at 600yds or even 300.


I got no use for any other chambering than 5.56x45 in an AR-15, or 7.62x51 in an AR-10. With 77bthp match, the AR-15 delivers out to 600yds. With 168bthp match the AR-15 will do at 800. I'm not looking to take shots at that distance, but the guns will deliver.

A DCM rifle looks pretty ordinary as ARs go these days. Kinda heavy with the float tube under the plastic. Yet, with only a decent sling, that rifle will shoot match loaded ammo under .5moa at 600yds.

A "match gun" that needs a big-ass scope and a F-class tripod rest with rear bunny bag is not a viable field solution.

A 10 or 11lb service rifle built AR-15 will deliver precision fire on a rapid basis if necessary, and the weight is a big factor. No free lunches. With the weight comes the precision at great distance and the steadiness shooting rapidfire.

Maybe if I were trying to go Distinguished I would have the $300 trigger and Compass Lake upper, but those aren't my goals.

Colt components are The American Gold Standard for AR-15 rifles.
 Quoting: Lester 1659909


colt is overrated

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One more thing, as to criticism of Mil-Spec...

The early Springfield Armory M1a rifles were built from USGI Contractor numbered parts. These rifles are superior to the later built SA guns; because of their Contractor parts.

Not many gun manufacturers are building their parts, or even chambering their barrels. Colt, when they had the defense contract, did much of their own sourcing. Not like they produces springs and pins, but other components, aside from castings; many were internally made.

Maybe the contracts went to firms that could produce the Mil-Spec quality at lowest cost; but a firm like TRW, Winchester, Borg-Warner had the metallurgy operations, tooling and skill to produce Best Grade cheap enough to win a contract.





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