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Read the article. Things are heating up in St Jwess.

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Now that I know the house this guy no doubt spent millions restoring it.

I was working in the house for 4 days before I found the formal dining room. This isn't a mansion. It's a castle. Elevators, 2 basements and parlors galore
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Yeah, but the millions he spent was actually earned by someone else , wasn't it?
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Not sure if its been posted but here is what started this incident, with antifuks going through the gate yelling kill the police.


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Now that I know the house this guy no doubt spent millions restoring it.

I was working in the house for 4 days before I found the formal dining room. This isn't a mansion. It's a castle. Elevators, 2 basements and parlors galore
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Yeah, but the millions he spent was actually earned by someone else , wasn't it?
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Typical lawyer. Most I've met are condescending. Stems from the English system that holds barristers in a higher position than commoners.

This could be another flash point if they arrest the protesters for Tresspassing. The "law" actually is on his side especially him holding the position he holds. For us common folks the Tresspassing statutes and Castle Doctrines would be waived and we'd be charged with brandishing.
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Re: St Louis homeowners come out with guns when protestors enter their neighborhood
This couple has the money to higher out a security force.
I would do that and higher guards with military experience
to guard their property.

MO is a stand your ground state.

They could shoot to kill.
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Re: St Louis homeowners come out with guns when protestors enter their neighborhood
While I don't necessarily agree with their tactics, which were inappropriate and tactically unsound, I think the message is clear that these homeowners aren't going to be easily intimidated. Interesting fact: The neighborhood the protestors are in is private property, including the streets. It's a very wealthy subdivision just north of Forest Park, on the west side of Kingshighway.
***ETA***Yes, they had every right to defend their property and persons, however, they should have been much smarter in how they did it.

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Re: St Louis homeowners come out with guns when protestors enter their neighborhood
This almost smells like a set up to me to further escalate shit.

I've already indicated I've been in this house and I'm somewhat familiar with this guy.

In the house was a cabinet displaying effects from the estate of Katherine Hepburn. When I saw this I knew this guy was no ordinary attorney. Store fronters don't get tickets to a Katherine Hepburn estate auction.

This guy has won a plethora of lawsuits including ones for you guessed it...police brutality. So he knows his way around the "robed room"

This started as a march to Lyda Krewsons house as a backlash for her doxxing protesters. She lives in the same gated community.

Going to watch this one closely. Will he file suit against the city for failure to contain the protesters?

Like I said things are heating up in "the LOU"
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Changed their stance a little bit.

New statement.

[link to redstateobserver.com]
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Re: St Louis homeowners come out with guns when protestors enter their neighborhood
So the couple seems pretty douchey, obviously they are rich enough or even wealthy. So what? as long as they aren't in some illegal pipeline of money, good on them for getting rich and spending their own money on a castle of a house if that's what they want. Hip hop retards blow money on shit that seems just as retarded to regular working class people, no one says shit about their gold rolls or iced out bling crap, who cares.
Obviously they are not well trained security operators. Are they supposed to be? They are just 2 douchey people who aren't ex-special forces. Should they think about hiring actual good security people? Maybe now, but that isn't the point.
They are just 2 people who live on a private estate in a PRIVATE neighborhood that IS NOT open to the public and IS PRIVATE PROPERTY. I'm sure it's more than safe on most days.
So the mob breaks onto that private property and the people who own a piece of it step up to show they will defend it as best they can and are armed.
Debate their lack of tactical skill all you want, but you gotta at least them credit for standing their own ground, clunkyness aside. I'm sure they were scared shitless over the whole episode.

My takeaway from this scene is this: Regular people are getting nervous and scared. The police either aren't showing up or are told to stand down. Most of these mob crowds are getting room to create mayhem, especially in the liberal cities and towns. THEY KNOW THAT, certainly the driving forces behind the mobs are well aware of it and are exploiting the opportunity. People are seeing this because it's obvious. More and more people are saying "we are on our own" in a potentially violent or deadly situation. More and more people are preparing to be able defend themselves if the shit comes marching down their street.

We are quickly becoming a powder keg, most likely think we already are, but it's getting worse and getting worse quickly.

It's only going to be a matter of time before a spark somewhere blows this whole thing up, if things keep going as they are.

The shit, the REAL SHIT, is closer to hitting the fan than I believe I have seen in my lifetime. We are past the Rodney King zone and are closer to crossing the Rubicon than ever before.

Hope we don't, but prepare for the worst.
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So the couple seems pretty douchey, obviously they are rich enough or even wealthy. So what? as long as they aren't in some illegal pipeline of money, good on them for getting rich and spending their own money on a castle of a house if that's what they want. Hip hop retards blow money on shit that seems just as retarded to regular working class people, no one says shit about their gold rolls or iced out bling crap, who cares.
Obviously they are not well trained security operators. Are they supposed to be? They are just 2 douchey people who aren't ex-special forces. Should they think about hiring actual good security people? Maybe now, but that isn't the point.
They are just 2 people who live on a private estate in a PRIVATE neighborhood that IS NOT open to the public and IS PRIVATE PROPERTY. I'm sure it's more than safe on most days.
So the mob breaks onto that private property and the people who own a piece of it step up to show they will defend it as best they can and are armed.
Debate their lack of tactical skill all you want, but you gotta at least them credit for standing their own ground, clunkyness aside. I'm sure they were scared shitless over the whole episode.

My takeaway from this scene is this: Regular people are getting nervous and scared. The police either aren't showing up or are told to stand down. Most of these mob crowds are getting room to create mayhem, especially in the liberal cities and towns. THEY KNOW THAT, certainly the driving forces behind the mobs are well aware of it and are exploiting the opportunity. People are seeing this because it's obvious. More and more people are saying "we are on our own" in a potentially violent or deadly situation. More and more people are preparing to be able defend themselves if the shit comes marching down their street.

We are quickly becoming a powder keg, most likely think we already are, but it's getting worse and getting worse quickly.

It's only going to be a matter of time before a spark somewhere blows this whole thing up, if things keep going as they are.

The shit, the REAL SHIT, is closer to hitting the fan than I believe I have seen in my lifetime. We are past the Rodney King zone and are closer to crossing the Rubicon than ever before.

Hope we don't, but prepare for the worst.
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I have a problem with the hypocrisy.

They support the Riotors but will defend their home with weapons.

That tells me they care for almost nothing but themselves and their own home while supporting rioting, looting and burning of anything else.

These people are liberal lawyer scumfucks.
A coward dies a thousand times, but the valiant need taste of death but once.

Fear cuts deeper than swords.

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Re: St Louis homeowners come out with guns when protestors enter their neighborhood
Changed their stance a little bit.

New statement.

[link to redstateobserver.com]
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~

Both Mr. and Mrs. McCloskey acted lawfully on their property which sits on a private gated lane in the City of St. Louis. Their actions were borne solely of fear and apprehension, the genesis of which was not race related. In fact, the agitators responsible for the trepidation were white.

"The Black Lives Matters movement is here to stay, it is the right message, and it is about time," said Albert S. Watkins, legal counsel for Mr. and Mrs. McCloskey. "The McCloskeys want to make sure no one thinks less of BLM, its message and the means it is employing to get its message out because of the actions of a few white individuals who tarnished a peaceful protest."


LOL....let's go with "extra uber douchey"
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Re: St Louis homeowners come out with guns when protestors enter their neighborhood
Changed their stance a little bit.

New statement.

[link to redstateobserver.com]
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~

Both Mr. and Mrs. McCloskey acted lawfully on their property which sits on a private gated lane in the City of St. Louis. Their actions were borne solely of fear and apprehension, the genesis of which was not race related. In fact, the agitators responsible for the trepidation were white.

"The Black Lives Matters movement is here to stay, it is the right message, and it is about time," said Albert S. Watkins, legal counsel for Mr. and Mrs. McCloskey. "The McCloskeys want to make sure no one thinks less of BLM, its message and the means it is employing to get its message out because of the actions of a few white individuals who tarnished a peaceful protest."


LOL....let's go with "extra uber douchey"
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Lol, they weren't all white!
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So the couple seems pretty douchey, obviously they are rich enough or even wealthy. So what? as long as they aren't in some illegal pipeline of money, good on them for getting rich and spending their own money on a castle of a house if that's what they want. Hip hop retards blow money on shit that seems just as retarded to regular working class people, no one says shit about their gold rolls or iced out bling crap, who cares.
Obviously they are not well trained security operators. Are they supposed to be? They are just 2 douchey people who aren't ex-special forces. Should they think about hiring actual good security people? Maybe now, but that isn't the point.
They are just 2 people who live on a private estate in a PRIVATE neighborhood that IS NOT open to the public and IS PRIVATE PROPERTY. I'm sure it's more than safe on most days.
So the mob breaks onto that private property and the people who own a piece of it step up to show they will defend it as best they can and are armed.
Debate their lack of tactical skill all you want, but you gotta at least them credit for standing their own ground, clunkyness aside. I'm sure they were scared shitless over the whole episode.

My takeaway from this scene is this: Regular people are getting nervous and scared. The police either aren't showing up or are told to stand down. Most of these mob crowds are getting room to create mayhem, especially in the liberal cities and towns. THEY KNOW THAT, certainly the driving forces behind the mobs are well aware of it and are exploiting the opportunity. People are seeing this because it's obvious. More and more people are saying "we are on our own" in a potentially violent or deadly situation. More and more people are preparing to be able defend themselves if the shit comes marching down their street.

We are quickly becoming a powder keg, most likely think we already are, but it's getting worse and getting worse quickly.

It's only going to be a matter of time before a spark somewhere blows this whole thing up, if things keep going as they are.

The shit, the REAL SHIT, is closer to hitting the fan than I believe I have seen in my lifetime. We are past the Rodney King zone and are closer to crossing the Rubicon than ever before.

Hope we don't, but prepare for the worst.
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I have a problem with the hypocrisy.

They support the Riotors but will defend their home with weapons.

That tells me they care for almost nothing but themselves and their own home while supporting rioting, looting and burning of anything else.

These people are liberal lawyer scumfucks.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~

They are 2 liberal scumbags who got caught in a moment of honesty. The Hypocrisy is massive.

From their "Statement" they seem to care more about their money and how this might hurt their scumbag lawyer business than any human life, probably their own included.

Want to bet that either one of them would sell out the others life if it came down to them losing all their wealth? I'd take that bet, any day.

Just trying to look at the overall picture regarding this particular confrontation objectively without the obvious hypocrisy entering the picture.

You may be a hypocritical douche, but should we still think that we should defend your right to be a douche if an angry lawless mob is coming after said douche? Is there a purity test we have to do and should one be done for us?

It's a tough question.
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Re: St Louis homeowners come out with guns when protestors enter their neighborhood
Changed their stance a little bit.

New statement.

[link to redstateobserver.com]
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~

Both Mr. and Mrs. McCloskey acted lawfully on their property which sits on a private gated lane in the City of St. Louis. Their actions were borne solely of fear and apprehension, the genesis of which was not race related. In fact, the agitators responsible for the trepidation were white.

"The Black Lives Matters movement is here to stay, it is the right message, and it is about time," said Albert S. Watkins, legal counsel for Mr. and Mrs. McCloskey. "The McCloskeys want to make sure no one thinks less of BLM, its message and the means it is employing to get its message out because of the actions of a few white individuals who tarnished a peaceful protest."


LOL....let's go with "extra uber douchey"
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Lol, they weren't all white!
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Yeah that "Statement" is nothing more than scumbag damage control.

I'm sure they will make a big fat donation to BLM or some other leftwing "cause" with a giant check and make sure that gets media attention.

Douches gonna douche.
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Re: St Louis homeowners come out with guns when protestors enter their neighborhood
These anti gun liberals turn into gun toting conservatives when threatened.

I take it as a good sign.
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Re: St Louis homeowners come out with guns when protestors enter their neighborhood
So the couple seems pretty douchey, obviously they are rich enough or even wealthy. So what? as long as they aren't in some illegal pipeline of money, good on them for getting rich and spending their own money on a castle of a house if that's what they want. Hip hop retards blow money on shit that seems just as retarded to regular working class people, no one says shit about their gold rolls or iced out bling crap, who cares.
Obviously they are not well trained security operators. Are they supposed to be? They are just 2 douchey people who aren't ex-special forces. Should they think about hiring actual good security people? Maybe now, but that isn't the point.
They are just 2 people who live on a private estate in a PRIVATE neighborhood that IS NOT open to the public and IS PRIVATE PROPERTY. I'm sure it's more than safe on most days.
So the mob breaks onto that private property and the people who own a piece of it step up to show they will defend it as best they can and are armed.
Debate their lack of tactical skill all you want, but you gotta at least them credit for standing their own ground, clunkyness aside. I'm sure they were scared shitless over the whole episode.

My takeaway from this scene is this: Regular people are getting nervous and scared. The police either aren't showing up or are told to stand down. Most of these mob crowds are getting room to create mayhem, especially in the liberal cities and towns. THEY KNOW THAT, certainly the driving forces behind the mobs are well aware of it and are exploiting the opportunity. People are seeing this because it's obvious. More and more people are saying "we are on our own" in a potentially violent or deadly situation. More and more people are preparing to be able defend themselves if the shit comes marching down their street.

We are quickly becoming a powder keg, most likely think we already are, but it's getting worse and getting worse quickly.

It's only going to be a matter of time before a spark somewhere blows this whole thing up, if things keep going as they are.

The shit, the REAL SHIT, is closer to hitting the fan than I believe I have seen in my lifetime. We are past the Rodney King zone and are closer to crossing the Rubicon than ever before.

Hope we don't, but prepare for the worst.
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I have a problem with the hypocrisy.

They support the Riotors but will defend their home with weapons.

That tells me they care for almost nothing but themselves and their own home while supporting rioting, looting and burning of anything else.

These people are liberal lawyer scumfucks.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


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Asians have their rooftop Koreans, We whites have our front yard... Scots?
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Defending obscene wealth with threats of violence b/c it can’t be defended rationally
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NOBODY's defending 'obscene' wealth. What those people were defending is their home.

You do have one, don't you?

Would you rather sleep out on the street because some loony tune decided to torch yours?

It doesn't matter if you live in a shack or a castle. I don't know of anyone who WOULDN'T defend their home.
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Looks a little excessive for a private residence. Maybe I’m a rube?
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Be honest now! If you had lots of money, would you buy yourself a shack? My guess is you'd buy as much house as you could afford to. It just so happens that these people could afford to buy this home for themselves.

Do I detect a bit of jealousy on your part? The tenth commandment (NOT suggestion) says 'Thou shalt not covet'
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Major difference between marxists and conservatives. Conservatives believe in an infinite pie and believe themselves capable of earning a comfortable chunk of it. When others succeed, they're happy for them.

Marxists see a zero-sum game, and themselves as incompetent and helpless unless an all-powerful government helps them take from others by force.
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Old Army buddy of mine has a sign about 1/4 way up his driveway that reads; "If you can read this you are in range." I think that conveys all the necessary sentiments to outsiders.
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Excellent

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Changed their stance a little bit.

New statement.

[link to redstateobserver.com]
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Changed their stance a little bit.

New statement.

[link to redstateobserver.com]
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


For a lawyer, you'd think he know some basic history. After you submit, they still chop your head off. He's submitting to getting purged. They'll make his house the next CHAZ. His wife will have it worse than him, as they'll keep her alive for sick purposes, as muslim terrorists do.

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Speaking for myself I am not one bit jealous of any one of those miserable sons of bitches. I hate them because they are greedy enough to surround themselves with luxury at someone elses expense while children starve.

That shoudl NEVER happen, anywhere, and certainly not in 2020 in the United States. Its fucking obscene.
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Again, so if he didn't have a big house it would be ok for him to have millions in the bank?

what of he did countless hours of pro-bono and volunteer work helping the poor, does that count??

You know nothing but jealousy

How much is too much? Just a little bit more than you have?
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HORSESHIT
People with money like that robbed someone else who actually earned it to get it.

Lawyers are very good examples of the capitalist parasite
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what kind of law does he practice and who did he steal from?
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They've got a guillotine set up outside Bezos' house, so clearly not. I don't think many of them are smart enough to distinguish, anyway. They just want free shit and don't really care where it comes from.[b/]
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I'd settle for the millions the capitalist 1 percenter parasites have bled me for.
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Explain how they did that?
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too bad a "protester" didn't bust a cap so the homeowners could have mowed them down with concentrated machine gun fire. lol
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Yea, because people getting smoked is really fuckin funny. It is a sad and dangerous misstep to wish for violence especially in this climate. I was told by an old Iraqi man once that "every Iraqi you guys kill turns three families against you." He was right. War is already horrifically violent and deeply obscene. But civil wars tend to get more than personal and exceptionally brutal. Be careful what you put out into the universe. Thoughts become things.
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Spot on! People that are wishing for a civil war, or outsiders like the poster from Russia that think we need to have one, have no idea what is involved or are simply evil.
One need only what happened in the former Yugoslavia and/or Syria to see how vicious civil wars are. Look into American history, at our civil war and the American revolution. The battles between the loyalists and the colonials were bloodier than the battles between the red coats and the colonists. Very often no quarter was given, families were wiped out. There were often attacks that had nothing to do with the overall war, they were personal vendettas, revenge for something that happened in the past. These types of things are what happens in a civil war.
I am not going to roll over and surrender for the sake of peace at any cost. I will fight, but I am not wishing for more violence.
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Id argue some one from Russia over the age of 50 has a much better idea of what is happening than any of us do. Remember the Marxists destroyed their country and slaughtered millions of their people for communisim when the Russian people were already reeling from the first world war. Bread lines, Gulag's, mass starvation and political kidnappings all occurred during their time living in the soviet union.


I hate to tell you idiots thinking this will stop that it wont. The communists have started their revolution and I am not willing to let it happen while I live. Take that how ever you want.
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If you noticed neither of us said anything about being able to stop it at all. But, with time to prepare being at a premium at the moment why would anyone want to do anything to speed the process along. I am quite familiar enough with the ideological subversion process to see exactly where we are on the timeline. I love the interwebs; everyone who doesn't agree with your perspective is an idiot of some variety and the author of any given statement is an expert on the topic at hand. Are you a 20 year special forces soldier? Have you fought against an insurgency? Studied guerrilla warfare for several decades?





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