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Close_with&destroy  (OP)

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too bad a "protester" didn't bust a cap so the homeowners could have mowed them down with concentrated machine gun fire. lol
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78146572


Yea, because people getting smoked is really fuckin funny. It is a sad and dangerous misstep to wish for violence especially in this climate. I was told by an old Iraqi man once that "every Iraqi you guys kill turns three families against you." He was right. War is already horrifically violent and deeply obscene. But civil wars tend to get more than personal and exceptionally brutal. Be careful what you put out into the universe. Thoughts become things.
 Quoting: Student of Truth


Spot on! People that are wishing for a civil war, or outsiders like the poster from Russia that think we need to have one, have no idea what is involved or are simply evil.
One need only what happened in the former Yugoslavia and/or Syria to see how vicious civil wars are. Look into American history, at our civil war and the American revolution. The battles between the loyalists and the colonials were bloodier than the battles between the red coats and the colonists. Very often no quarter was given, families were wiped out. There were often attacks that had nothing to do with the overall war, they were personal vendettas, revenge for something that happened in the past. These types of things are what happens in a civil war.
I am not going to roll over and surrender for the sake of peace at any cost. I will fight, but I am not wishing for more violence.
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too bad a "protester" didn't bust a cap so the homeowners could have mowed them down with concentrated machine gun fire. lol
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78146572


Yea, because people getting smoked is really fuckin funny. It is a sad and dangerous misstep to wish for violence especially in this climate. I was told by an old Iraqi man once that "every Iraqi you guys kill turns three families against you." He was right. War is already horrifically violent and deeply obscene. But civil wars tend to get more than personal and exceptionally brutal. Be careful what you put out into the universe. Thoughts become things.
 Quoting: Student of Truth


Spot on! People that are wishing for a civil war, or outsiders like the poster from Russia that think we need to have one, have no idea what is involved or are simply evil.
One need only what happened in the former Yugoslavia and/or Syria to see how vicious civil wars are. Look into American history, at our civil war and the American revolution. The battles between the loyalists and the colonials were bloodier than the battles between the red coats and the colonists. Very often no quarter was given, families were wiped out. There were often attacks that had nothing to do with the overall war, they were personal vendettas, revenge for something that happened in the past. These types of things are what happens in a civil war.
I am not going to roll over and surrender for the sake of peace at any cost. I will fight, but I am not wishing for more violence.
 Quoting: Close_with&destroy


Fuck an A right. It is nearly always the ones who have never even hearda shot fired in anger let alone fired in anger themselves who say bring it on or whatever. I have seen more than my share of violence and the shit was fucking absolutely barbaric. When you have experienced things like having been rendered unconscious by a nasty IED that blew really close and come to to the sound of small arms fire crackling like black cats as the rounds pass you, RPGs sizzling angrily past you and see your buddy in the street holding his guts in with his hands while on the radio desperately calling for QRF it is impossible to fathom the chaos and finality of it all. Anyone who has seen the elephant would never wish for it in their back yard, or anywhere else for that matter.
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So far as the couple is concerned. I do like to see Americans standing up for themselves. But those two need training in rifle/pistol craft AND mindset. You can NOT rely on the presence of a weapon deterring people. While I knew this rule many years ago this video really brought it home to me. I just wanted some fucking gummy bears and to watch reruns of game of thrones with my special lady friend so went next door the liquor store and this is what happened there. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
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Hope is not a strategy and shot placement is king!
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I hope they never shoot each other, but I like their spirit.
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They would be overrun in moments by a determined enemy, but at least they had the balls to do it.

We're gonna need all of that we can get.
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If anybody ever DOES try to "overrun you" in a situation like that, where you are guarding your home, then you need to shoot FAST and FURIOUSLY.

Because a mob can (and will) KILL you, if you let them get the upper hand. There is nothing illegal about guarding your home (and your life) from attack.
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On the other hand you could stay in your fucking house and watch them walk by. Odds are theyre not going to damage anything until you instigate them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79002086


If someone broke through your gate what are the odds that they arrived to be friendly? Are you willing to bet your life on those odds?

Each person must answer for themselves in that moment.
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...


[link to www.stlmag.com (secure)]

Looks a little excessive for a private residence. Maybe I’m a rube?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77732452


Be honest now! If you had lots of money, would you buy yourself a shack? My guess is you'd buy as much house as you could afford to. It just so happens that these people could afford to buy this home for themselves.

Do I detect a bit of jealousy on your part? The tenth commandment (NOT suggestion) says 'Thou shalt not covet'
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A palace is not only a testament to the wealth of its owners, it is a celebration of the social contract. Only a public that is happy enough with its lot will allow a palace to peacefully exist in its midst. Otherwise, pitchforks etc. It’s not about jealousy, it’s about respect.
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We dont need people living like that when a third of our kids are hungry RIGHT NOW. Its fucking absurd. ANd they are all assholes if you really get down to it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10739329


I can see both sides here but will say they are being punished for being successful in a system some don't like, I don't think that's fair, either. In this system they were renovating and probably shared their wealth with plumbers, electricians, landscapers, etc., etc... The more you have showing is a show of you not keeping your wealth to yourself but actually spreading around to help others in their work or buying used stuff to help others out financially because, at least for now that's how the system benefits people. If you have a load of money in the bank and don't spend it, how does that help anyone else?

This is just something that I think some people miss.
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that video is so fake such bad acting do you see how she holds the pistol.
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Here's an article about the house and owners. Oh, and the "peaceful" protesters completely destroyed a wrought iron gate leading into the private community.
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I'll agree to be "woke" when they wake up from their stupor.
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See that is what is wrong with the second amendment
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The only thing wrong with 2A is that it's debated by those who still don't get it. ....."Shall not be infringed" in todays language simply means TOUGH SHIT!
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Re: St Louis homeowners come out with guns when protestors enter their neighborhood
While I don't necessarily agree with their tactics, which were inappropriate and tactically unsound, I think the message is clear that these homeowners aren't going to be easily intimidated. Interesting fact: The neighborhood the protestors are in is private property, including the streets. It's a very wealthy subdivision just north of Forest Park, on the west side of Kingshighway.
***ETA***Yes, they had every right to defend their property and persons, however, they should have been much smarter in how they did it.

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 Quoting: Close_with&destroy


***

I love how the shift in Group chants suddenly change to
oh shit..lets go...move on...lets go...oh shit...lets go..move on...lets go...
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Re: St Louis homeowners come out with guns when protestors enter their neighborhood
The mob was not just passing by on the street. They broke open their gate, entered private property with the intent to loot and burn it down. The video was taken from the homeowners driveway on their property which was enclosed by a fence and a gate.

If the mob had advanced up their steps they would have been justified in filling them with lead.
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Yesterday they were liberals. Today they are conservative Trump supporters.

magalol
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They didn’t get the memo. You are not allowed to defend your property or neighborhood against jaw gurs. Federal hate crime charges incoming.
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That's awesome!
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Re: St Louis homeowners come out with guns when protestors enter their neighborhood
While I don't necessarily agree with their tactics, which were inappropriate and tactically unsound, I think the message is clear that these homeowners aren't going to be easily intimidated. Interesting fact: The neighborhood the protestors are in is private property, including the streets. It's a very wealthy subdivision just north of Forest Park, on the west side of Kingshighway.

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 Quoting: Close_with&destroy


so what whether or not YOU agree with "their tactics".
are they supposed to roll over and play dead ?
be nice to trespassing POS that have a well documented history on what FOLLOWS these walk-a thons ?
the trespassers got the message loud and clear and left.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79046491


Whoa! Easy. You misunderstand me. I think I was pretty clear when I said it was obvious they weren't going to be intimidated. Evidently I wasn't, so let me lay it out for you. She was a complete idiot by leaving cover and exposing herself to a possible overwhelming attack by multiple assailants. The husband was waving his rifle around while also being exposed. Neither had spare magazines or body armor. At a minimum, they should have had positions of cover, spare ammo, interlocking fields of fire and the ability to retreat to better positions. So, yes, their tactics SUCKED ASS. They could have easily been overpowered, their weapons taken and could have been added to the body count.
One can defend their property and lives without being complete DUMBASSES about it. I hope that clears things up for you.
 Quoting: Close_with&destroy


Well said.
Seagull Lake
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My child goes to college right there!!
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Jesus do NOT send them back there in the fall. Are you crazy?
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Imaginary Antifa trying to start an imaginary war.
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Send blks to africa
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They both have guts. (and a beautiful house btw)

They both should invest in some training.
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Hope is not a strategy and shot placement is king!
 Quoting: Student of Truth


dammmn right.
but wait a minute--what about there is hope w/the scope ?

anyway,too many are uninformed that thee area IS a gated community,private property and these suckkuhs are trespassing and NOT ON ANY PUBLIC SIDEWALK or streets.

LOL march in here as the road IS the county's BUT every single property IS a deeded homestead & in TX,that's a seperate entity. even theeee law cannot slam in warrant and all.
any shoot outs ? LOL not required.
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Re: St Louis homeowners come out with guns when protestors enter their neighborhood
While I don't necessarily agree with their tactics, which were inappropriate and tactically unsound, I think the message is clear that these homeowners aren't going to be easily intimidated. Interesting fact: The neighborhood the protestors are in is private property, including the streets. It's a very wealthy subdivision just north of Forest Park, on the west side of Kingshighway.
***ETA***Yes, they had every right to defend their property and persons, however, they should have been much smarter in how they did it.

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 Quoting: Close_with&destroy


Agreed. They made themselves look foolish but in the end a gun is like a force field for these thugs. Just the sight of one makes them move on. These aren’t criminal masterminds. They are after low hanging fruit, people who cower in fear at them or who let them steal their possessions. Having a gun runs contra to that.
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Google BLM poster, print it out and place in windows facing streets and be well armed inside your home. When you stand in front of your home holding weapons you;

(ALL PROSTERS ARE VIDEO / AUDIO RECORDING YOU!!!!!)

Run the risk of inciting the mom / blob and being injuried, DOXED, RUINED!

Run the risk of being arrested for BRANDISHING A FIREARM, ASSAULT WITH A DEADLY WEAPON, etc.

THINK PEOPLE THINK

The Communists want you to over react and come outside with firearms. They are good at setting the same old communist traps.


READ

Helter Skelter

The Fabian Freeway


putin-thiss
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Re: St Louis homeowners come out with guns when protestors enter their neighborhood
While I don't necessarily agree with their tactics, which were inappropriate and tactically unsound, I think the message is clear that these homeowners aren't going to be easily intimidated. Interesting fact: The neighborhood the protestors are in is private property, including the streets. It's a very wealthy subdivision just north of Forest Park, on the west side of Kingshighway.
***ETA***Yes, they had every right to defend their property and persons, however, they should have been much smarter in how they did it.

[link to twitter.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Close_with&destroy


They should have shot a couple of the rioters and sent a message. Sniper style. They have the money to defend themselves in courts.
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hesright
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Re: St Louis homeowners come out with guns when protestors enter their neighborhood
Google BLM poster, print it out and place in windows facing streets and be well armed inside your home. When you stand in front of your home holding weapons you;

(ALL PROSTERS ARE VIDEO / AUDIO RECORDING YOU!!!!!)

Run the risk of inciting the mom / blob and being injuried, DOXED, RUINED!

Run the risk of being arrested for BRANDISHING A FIREARM, ASSAULT WITH A DEADLY WEAPON, etc.

THINK PEOPLE THINK

The Communists want you to over react and come outside with firearms. They are good at setting the same old communist traps.


READ

Helter Skelter

The Fabian Freeway


putin-thiss
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hesright
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Yesterday they were liberals. Today they are conservative Trump supporters.

:magalol:
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That's no joke.

It's a serious wake up call when savages run amok because they are jealous of success.

30 years to restore that house. Savages want to destroy it in 1 hour.
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If there was a civil war it would be the quickest ever in history. The Soy warlords/ children of the soy, have no one in red states scared
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The soi bois and commies have ALL of the government and the military too. The soi bois would last a second but the rest would be a very, very long war. Will be a very, very long war.

Yuck - I want to puke. Communism will kill everything it touches.
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I wouldn't count on that.
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Defending obscene wealth with threats of violence b/c it can’t be defended rationally
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WEALTH IS GENERATED MEANING SOMEONE HAS TO PUT GREAT EFFORT INTO CREATING IT! Some do so with their hands others with their minds stop being jealous of some one elses accomplishments. Just because you wont put in the time effort or sacrifice necessary to gain what others have does not give you the right to any of what they have earned.
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too bad a "protester" didn't bust a cap so the homeowners could have mowed them down with concentrated machine gun fire. lol
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78146572


Yea, because people getting smoked is really fuckin funny. It is a sad and dangerous misstep to wish for violence especially in this climate. I was told by an old Iraqi man once that "every Iraqi you guys kill turns three families against you." He was right. War is already horrifically violent and deeply obscene. But civil wars tend to get more than personal and exceptionally brutal. Be careful what you put out into the universe. Thoughts become things.
 Quoting: Student of Truth


Spot on! People that are wishing for a civil war, or outsiders like the poster from Russia that think we need to have one, have no idea what is involved or are simply evil.
One need only what happened in the former Yugoslavia and/or Syria to see how vicious civil wars are. Look into American history, at our civil war and the American revolution. The battles between the loyalists and the colonials were bloodier than the battles between the red coats and the colonists. Very often no quarter was given, families were wiped out. There were often attacks that had nothing to do with the overall war, they were personal vendettas, revenge for something that happened in the past. These types of things are what happens in a civil war.
I am not going to roll over and surrender for the sake of peace at any cost. I will fight, but I am not wishing for more violence.
 Quoting: Close_with&destroy


Id argue some one from Russia over the age of 50 has a much better idea of what is happening than any of us do. Remember the Marxists destroyed their country and slaughtered millions of their people for communisim when the Russian people were already reeling from the first world war. Bread lines, Gulag's, mass starvation and political kidnappings all occurred during their time living in the soviet union.


I hate to tell you idiots thinking this will stop that it wont. The communists have started their revolution and I am not willing to let it happen while I live. Take that how ever you want.





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