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Song of the Wind
 User ID: 77909687  United States06/12/2020 10:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear the sound of it, but do not know where it comes from and where it goes. So is everyone who has been born of the Spirit. |
| Toprance1
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| GSB/LTD
User ID: 8080014 United States06/12/2020 11:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Great thread topic!!!!! Quoting: Captain KC Jones Dorothy was the only reporter to interview Jack Ruby! She was very knowledgeable about UFOs also and was briefed on a 1942 UFO crash in the UK by a member of the UK government who was later assassinated. I recall Dorothy well in the 50s. She was a daily staple in the newspaper. You're absolutely RIGHT~! Kilgallen was fascinated by UFO's and was convinced the truth needed to be told. I'd almost forgotten about that aspect of her investigations... thanks for the reminder! |
| 1guynAz
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 10799996 United States06/12/2020 12:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was in the fourth grade when JFK was hit. I read the abbreviated version of the Warren Report. Even at the age of 12 or so, I wasnt buying it. Especially when I realized that Dulles, the head of the CIA that Kennedy had fired, was in charge of the investigation. Kind of like putting Mueller, Comeys best friend, in charge of the Russia investigation. A few years later LBJ and Gov Connally were being interviewed. When the reporter asked LBJ what he was thinking at the time of the assassination he slipped and said "When I heard all those shots, I thought THEY were going to kill us all." Reporter did not follow up on who the "THEY" LBJ was referring to, were. Rather odd statement, dont you think. |
| ac User ID: 78993267 United States06/12/2020 01:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If I remember right, JFK's normal secret service guys were pulled and new agents put in their place. I remember the day like it was yesterday. I was 7 and our principle came over the loud speaker to say the president had been assassinated. I remember my teacher laying her head on her desk and started to sob. The visual has never left me. It wasn't until years later I learned the true story and how JFK was trying to take down the deep state. Every once in a while I go back and play his speech about secret societies. He came from deep state wealth, but loved his country and decided to turn against them. I wonder if Trump will last. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 79004136 United States06/12/2020 01:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I just watched an old show the other day, America declassified, that proved there was evidence there may have been a second shooter on the grassy knoll. It also stated that there were 2 witnesses, one in hiding, that challenged the theory that the original shooter was not on the 6th floor when it happened. The other lady is did come forward that she did not see Oswald come down the stairs. There was an officer who saw him 2 minutes after the shooting drinking a soda calmly downstairs. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78750443 the shooter that shot the death bullet was again the secret service driver of the car... the others were distractions. and Trump should be careful about his own agents too. In the car, yes, the driver, come on you Moran. Yeah, that's a good assassination plan. Let the guy responsible for maneuvering the car on to Elm Street, pull the trigger. Get real! Watch what the person right next to JFK does just before the kill shot. June Cobb for anyone I terested. |
| rAbBITboY
User ID: 78181388  United Kingdom06/12/2020 02:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Great thread topic!!!!! Quoting: Captain KC Jones Dorothy was the only reporter to interview Jack Ruby! She was very knowledgeable about UFOs also and was briefed on a 1942 UFO crash in the UK by a member of the UK government who was later assassinated. I recall Dorothy well in the 50s. She was a daily staple in the newspaper. Great thread topic!!!!! Quoting: Captain KC Jones Dorothy was the only reporter to interview Jack Ruby! She was very knowledgeable about UFOs also and was briefed on a 1942 UFO crash in the UK by a member of the UK government who was later assassinated. I recall Dorothy well in the 50s. She was a daily staple in the newspaper. Do you have any more info on the 1942 crash. G*@gle has unsurprisingly given me nothing! |
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| Toprance1
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 10799996 United States06/12/2020 04:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If I remember right, JFK's normal secret service guys were pulled and new agents put in their place. I remember the day like it was yesterday. I was 7 and our principle came over the loud speaker to say the president had been assassinated. I remember my teacher laying her head on her desk and started to sob. The visual has never left me. It wasn't until years later I learned the true story and how JFK was trying to take down the deep state. Every once in a while I go back and play his speech about secret societies. He came from deep state wealth, but loved his country and decided to turn against them. I wonder if Trump will last. Quoting: ac 78993267 He has some leverage because NSA was not on board with the coup attempt. He is holding all the evidential high cards. If he loses in November----he might play them. |
| Lily o' the Valley
User ID: 77310410 United Kingdom06/12/2020 04:59 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Through discovery of never-before-seen videotaped eyewitness interviews with those closest to Kilgallen and secret government documents, Shaw unfolds a “whodunit” murder mystery featuring suspects including Frank Sinatra, J. Edgar Hoover, Mafia Don Carlos Marcello and a "Mystery Man" who may have silenced Kilgallen. All while by presenting through Kilgallen's eyes the most compelling evidence about the JFK assassinations since the House Select Committee on Assassination’s investigation in the 1970's. Quoting: Person445 Called by the New York Post, “the most powerful female voice in America,” who investigated the death of JFK. Kilgallen’s suspicious official cause of death was reported as an overdose of barbiturates combined with alcohol, despite the death scene having been staged. Shaw proves Kilgallen, a remarkable woman who broke the "glass ceiling" before the term became fashionable, was denied the justice she deserved… until now. Thanks so much for posting this. That woman deserves justice, late as it is. *** Good deeds bring rewards, bad actions bring troubles. That is a law of the universe. *** |
| thetrickybigguy
User ID: 56638406 United States06/12/2020 06:54 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If I remember right, JFK's normal secret service guys were pulled and new agents put in their place. I remember the day like it was yesterday. I was 7 and our principle came over the loud speaker to say the president had been assassinated. I remember my teacher laying her head on her desk and started to sob. The visual has never left me. It wasn't until years later I learned the true story and how JFK was trying to take down the deep state. Every once in a while I go back and play his speech about secret societies. He came from deep state wealth, but loved his country and decided to turn against them. I wonder if Trump will last. Quoting: ac 78993267 look what happened as the motorcade was leaving love field. the agent shrugs his shoulders not once, not twice but THREE times in total confusion as to WHY he was being removed from his post. pretty obvious that the new agents were in fact involved. JFK assassination: Secret Service Standdown [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Falling down is a part of life, getting back up is living. ~ Life is about choices, you get to make them each and every day of your life. ~ Capitalization is the difference between helping your Uncle Jack off a horse and helping your uncle jack off a horse.~ Only in America... do we use the word 'politics' to describe the process so well: 'Poloi' in Greek meaning 'many' and 'tics' meaning 'bloodsucking creatures'.~ “When a government is dependent for money upon the bankers, they and not the government leaders control the nation. This is because the hand that gives is above the hand that takes. Financiers are without patriotism and without decency.” If you're not a liberal at twenty you have no heart, if you're not a conservative at forty you have no brain. Winston Churchill |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 77735913 United States06/12/2020 10:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If I remember right, JFK's normal secret service guys were pulled and new agents put in their place. I remember the day like it was yesterday. I was 7 and our principle came over the loud speaker to say the president had been assassinated. I remember my teacher laying her head on her desk and started to sob. The visual has never left me. It wasn't until years later I learned the true story and how JFK was trying to take down the deep state. Every once in a while I go back and play his speech about secret societies. He came from deep state wealth, but loved his country and decided to turn against them. I wonder if Trump will last. Quoting: ac 78993267 look what happened as the motorcade was leaving love field. the agent shrugs his shoulders not once, not twice but THREE times in total confusion as to WHY he was being removed from his post. pretty obvious that the new agents were in fact involved. JFK assassination: Secret Service Standdown [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I grew up watching Dorothy "no chin" Kilgallen on WHAT'S MY LINE? [and reading her syndicated newspaper column] and always found her as sharp as a tack and NOT a reporter to be trifled with. She was as big as Walter Winchell, but certainly not the unscrupulous shill he was! No, Dottie had INTEGRITY and based her career upon it. And there's STRONG evidence to suggest that she was indeed murdered. The Book THE REPORTER WHO KNEW TOO MUCH [I've read my copy twice] lays out plenty of circumstantial evidence in a volume where the author endlessly repeats himself, frequently word-for-word. Shaw is OBSESSED with Dorothy Kilgallen, even believing that her spirit contacted him from beyond the grave to tell her story. But, while Mark Shaw's writing may have been hackneyed, his findings were still compelling. From the shadowy characters Kilgallen interviewed [she was the ONLY reporter to ever interview Jack Ruby] to the posed way her body was found in a bed she rarely used to the bulging files she'd accumulated over the course of several years [that completely vanished for five decades], Kilgallen's death has aroused suspicion from day one... for those who began connecting the dots early-on. The good news is that her file was apparently not destroyed -as was always believed- since bits and pieces have slowly come to light in recent years. BTW: NONE of that file appears in the book mentioned above, even in the new, "updated" edition Shaw never goes there. So, the lid is still clamped down upon her own unsolved case... as well as the famous one she was investigating! Kilgallen -a devout Catholic- WORSHIPPED JFK, having gotten to know him during his rise in DC. She was a frequent guest at the White House and was without question JFK's "favorite" reporter. And his death devastated her. In a nutshell, Kilgallen's investigation discovered JFK's sexual liasons with several known KGB agents [those same agents were also passed around among high-ranking members of Congress] and his, brother Bobby and J. Edgar's Hoover's attempts to cover the whole thing up. This constituted treason [remember those flyers that were handed out in Dallas the morning of 11/22/63? The ones that carried Kennedy's portrait and the words "WANTED FOR TREASON"? That's how much the secret was already leaking out courtesy of the KGB]. FYI: in a weird contemporary twist, those agents worked out of Bobby Baker's infamous "Q" Club [Q for "Quorum"] located on the second floor of DC's Carroll Arms Hotel where prostitutes of both sexes were available to horny politicos. Recently, incendiary disclosures from someone calling himself "Q" have rocked DC politics. So, Bobby Baker is a good place to start researching those KGB agents that finally got JFK killed... but by whom? Although JFK had been bedding those three agents since early 1961, everything started to unravel when Kilgallen started to nose around; RFK deported all three women in August, 1963 but Dorothy kept sniffing. Her DC inquiries motivated several Congressmen to form a very low-key investigation of their own and by early November, 1963, they were THISCLOSE to announcing formal impeachment proceedings against Kennedy. Then, he made that convenient trip to Dallas and their problem was suddenly solved. The country was saved the exposure of a scandal that would've forever rocked our federal government, and the masses had a new martyr to worship. A WIN-WIN! BTW: top military brass [notably Gen Curtis LeMay] also tacitly approved of the murder plot due to Kennedy's intractable demands to withdraw from Vietnam... a war LeMAy and many others desperately wanted, and got once LBJ became President. The only amazing thing is that Kilgallen survived as long as she did because even after JFK's death, the scandal could still bring down some other very powerful people... including LBJ, RFK and Hoover among many others. She was finally silenced in early November, 1965 - just two years after the man she most admired: JFK. WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! kinda makes you wonder about that rumor this shyte was a hoax upon the people to extract him for some reason and that he lived out his last days in some Russian lake house courtesy of Kruschev with that mistress lady presumed dead in some accident. people refuse to believe he could've been compromised due to his nymphomania. he's an actor just like the rest. up is down with this case. |
| GSB/LTD
User ID: 8080014 United States06/13/2020 11:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If I remember right, JFK's normal secret service guys were pulled and new agents put in their place. I remember the day like it was yesterday. I was 7 and our principle came over the loud speaker to say the president had been assassinated. I remember my teacher laying her head on her desk and started to sob. The visual has never left me. It wasn't until years later I learned the true story and how JFK was trying to take down the deep state. Every once in a while I go back and play his speech about secret societies. He came from deep state wealth, but loved his country and decided to turn against them. I wonder if Trump will last. Quoting: ac 78993267 look what happened as the motorcade was leaving love field. the agent shrugs his shoulders not once, not twice but THREE times in total confusion as to WHY he was being removed from his post. pretty obvious that the new agents were in fact involved. JFK assassination: Secret Service Standdown [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I grew up watching Dorothy "no chin" Kilgallen on WHAT'S MY LINE? [and reading her syndicated newspaper column] and always found her as sharp as a tack and NOT a reporter to be trifled with. She was as big as Walter Winchell, but certainly not the unscrupulous shill he was! No, Dottie had INTEGRITY and based her career upon it. And there's STRONG evidence to suggest that she was indeed murdered. The Book THE REPORTER WHO KNEW TOO MUCH [I've read my copy twice] lays out plenty of circumstantial evidence in a volume where the author endlessly repeats himself, frequently word-for-word. Shaw is OBSESSED with Dorothy Kilgallen, even believing that her spirit contacted him from beyond the grave to tell her story. But, while Mark Shaw's writing may have been hackneyed, his findings were still compelling. From the shadowy characters Kilgallen interviewed [she was the ONLY reporter to ever interview Jack Ruby] to the posed way her body was found in a bed she rarely used to the bulging files she'd accumulated over the course of several years [that completely vanished for five decades], Kilgallen's death has aroused suspicion from day one... for those who began connecting the dots early-on. The good news is that her file was apparently not destroyed -as was always believed- since bits and pieces have slowly come to light in recent years. BTW: NONE of that file appears in the book mentioned above, even in the new, "updated" edition Shaw never goes there. So, the lid is still clamped down upon her own unsolved case... as well as the famous one she was investigating! Kilgallen -a devout Catholic- WORSHIPPED JFK, having gotten to know him during his rise in DC. She was a frequent guest at the White House and was without question JFK's "favorite" reporter. And his death devastated her. In a nutshell, Kilgallen's investigation discovered JFK's sexual liasons with several known KGB agents [those same agents were also passed around among high-ranking members of Congress] and his, brother Bobby and J. Edgar's Hoover's attempts to cover the whole thing up. This constituted treason [remember those flyers that were handed out in Dallas the morning of 11/22/63? The ones that carried Kennedy's portrait and the words "WANTED FOR TREASON"? That's how much the secret was already leaking out courtesy of the KGB]. FYI: in a weird contemporary twist, those agents worked out of Bobby Baker's infamous "Q" Club [Q for "Quorum"] located on the second floor of DC's Carroll Arms Hotel where prostitutes of both sexes were available to horny politicos. Recently, incendiary disclosures from someone calling himself "Q" have rocked DC politics... but it sure isn't Bobby himself, who died two years ago at 89, smug to the end. So, Bobby Baker is a good place to start researching those KGB agents that finally got JFK killed... but by whom? I doubt it was the Soviets themselves- their mission was just to discredit JFK and then let nature takes its course like they did shortly before in the UK's notorious Profumo case [look THAT one up!]. Although JFK had been bedding those three agents since early 1961, everything started to unravel when Kilgallen started to nose around; RFK deported all three women in August, 1963 but Dorothy kept sniffing. Her DC inquiries motivated several Congressmen to form a very low-key investigation of their own and by early November, 1963, they were THISCLOSE to announcing formal impeachment proceedings against Kennedy. Then, he made that convenient trip to Dallas and their problem was suddenly solved. The country was saved the exposure of a scandal that would've forever rocked our federal government, and the masses had a new martyr to worship. A WIN-WIN! BTW: top military brass [notably Gen Curtis LeMay] also tacitly approved of the murder plot due to Kennedy's intractable demands to withdraw from Vietnam... a war LeMAy and many others desperately wanted, and got once LBJ became President. The only amazing thing is that Kilgallen survived as long as she did because even after JFK's death, the scandal could still bring down some other very powerful people... including LBJ, RFK and Hoover among many others. She was finally silenced in early November, 1965 - just two years after the man she most admired: JFK. WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! kinda makes you wonder about that rumor this shyte was a hoax upon the people to extract him for some reason and that he lived out his last days in some Russian lake house courtesy of Kruschev with that mistress lady presumed dead in some accident. people refuse to believe he could've been compromised due to his nymphomania. he's an actor just like the rest. up is down with this case. In my 50+ years of researching the JFK assassination, I've never heard of the rumor you reference. But I did read many people [especially in that old rag THE WEEKLY WORLD NEWS, which I actually MISS!] who claimed he was abducted by aliens and was still alive "out there" cruising around singing along with Elvis... just never anything about him living out his days in a dacha sipping well-chilled Stoli! Besides: Jack was a Scotch & Rocks man... and preferred jazz. And in this case, is wasn't just JFK that was compromised by Bobby Baker's treacherous harem-for-hire. Visitors to his "Q" Club included Sam Rayburn, LBJ, RFK, McGeorge Bundy, Mike Mansfield, Hubert Humphrey, Hale Boggs... the list goes on and on with members of BOTH parties, top-brass military and more than a few Ambassadors up to their collective asses in duplicitous activities! If THAT scandal had hit the public's ears, Washington DC's swamp would have been quickly drained via torches, pitchforks and the nearest lampposts and globally, our national reputation would've taken a couple of generations to recover - if then. And that's why I believe Kennedy was offed instead of subjecting the nation to an impeachment process that would've made Trump's look like a Boy Scout Jamboree. There was just too much at stake to allow him to recklessly continue as he had done his entire life. Poor Jack. You know he really couldn't help himself... after all, it was in the Kennedy genes! In the final analysis [a term JFK liked to use] it's not so important WHO pulled that trigger, but WHY. And that's why I also believe that so much scrutiny was immediately focused upon the killing itself and less on the reasons behind it. This is also why certain files will always be kept from public view no matter how many times new ones are released. So: you're RIGHT! It was like a bad Gilbert & Sullivan played for much higher stakes and we can agree that the entire JFK martyr-mystique was a con from day one. The young, handsome Prezzie with the statuesque beauty of a wife and two adorable kiddies [and let's NOT forget "Patrick" the infant Jackie lost 39-hrs after birth in August, '63 while hubby Jack was enjoying one last bang with Ellen Rometsch in the Lincoln bedroom]; a charismatic leader who spoke timeless words of wisdom, but written by other men [notably Ted Sorenson who even penned those famous "...ask not..." lines]. Oh: the press KNEW all along what he was doing but they, like his dedicated SS agents, kept those state secrets to themselves until 40 years later. Killgallen might not have had a chin, but she DID have a backbone and once she caught wind of the story, she went after it like a junkyard dog. And like so many others, she died for her efforts. I feel especially sorry for Dottie; here was a renowned reporter sitting on the biggest story of the century but who morally couldn't publish it because she knew it would shatter her dear President's memory and the entire nation in the process. So, she just wrote a few columns of mild innuendo and kept all the explosive material to herself. And then suddenly, she too was gone. JFK - the leader who personally got the Berlin Wall built, nukes in Cuba and the entire world nearly engulfed in thermo-nuclear war due to his frat-boy arrogance/self-entitlement, who ultimately betrayed his nation by literally sleeping with the enemy... but who was still a noble King Arthur in gleaming armor! Jackie was actually the smartest of them all in the White House; for it was she who crafted the entire contrived "Camelot" bullshit we've heard since 1964 and ensured the Kennedy dynasty for the next several decades. And later, she even managed to marry Aristotle Onassis and live out her life in the comfort she deeply thought she deserved. Not such a bad payoff for that terrifying trip to Texas! I'll leave you with this well-documented "rumor" few have ever discussed: For several months prior to the trip our royal couple had lived apart, only rarely being seen together in public. The press claimed Jackie's absence was postpartum depression from her loss of Patrick. But just a few days prior to that trip to Dallas, Jackie demanded a divorce from Jack and said she'd go public about his serial philandering if she didn't get one. And this wasn't the first time she'd done so, going all the way back to the 1950's. Joe, Sr. even once reputedly tried to buy her off with a check for a cool million - which she snarlingly refused. So, just imagine a "devout" Catholic President embroiled in a public and very ugly divorce based upon infidelity - as if impeachment weren't enough there would also have been excommunication! All things considered, a simple assassination seemed the best solution, don't you think? And so it was. It's a wonder a magical bullet didn't get Jackie, too. And yes, there are even some who claim she was in on the whole thing. Do I believe that? Not really. And even the uber-trashy WEEKLY WORLD NEWS wouldn't touch THAT nasty allegation! Last Edited by GSB/LTD on 06/21/2020 10:18 AM |
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