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Why Did the ZAPRUDER FILM Skip as JFK’s Limo Turned on to Elm Street?

 
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Why Did the ZAPRUDER FILM Skip as JFK’s Limo Turned on to Elm Street?
Has anyone ever addressed this before?

Watch the video below. Zapruder’s footage starts at 1:00 (when the distinctive noise of a film camera can be heard).

The “skip” in the film occurs at 1:09.

You can rewind and see how the locations/positions of the various people on the sidewalk and the police motorcycles differ considerably from 1:08 to 1:09 in the video.

If I had to estimate, I’d say a good 3 or 4 seconds were expunged from Zapruder’s film.

Zapruder handed his film over to authorities, from where it made its way to J. Edgar Hoover’s FBI.

Did Zapruder capture something/someone just after the 1:08 mark that the FBI didn’t want anyone to see?

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Re: Why Did the ZAPRUDER FILM Skip as JFK’s Limo Turned on to Elm Street?
Actually, I think more than 3 or 4 seconds were expunged.
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Re: Why Did the ZAPRUDER FILM Skip as JFK’s Limo Turned on to Elm Street?
Actually, I think more than 3 or 4 seconds were expunged.
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The driver shot kennedy turned around real quick and did it in full view, any and all witnesses where silenced paid off or black mailed, video of course edited and alternate narrative provided... really the fact they got away with something like that so easily back then proves they can make anyone dissapear easily.
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Re: Why Did the ZAPRUDER FILM Skip as JFK’s Limo Turned on to Elm Street?
Maybe in those missing seconds, Zapruder panned his camera up and saw someone in the window of the Dal-Tex building? Or the County Courthouse Records Building? Or someone not Oswald in the 6th floor window of the Texas School Book Depository Building?

Or maybe he inadvertently captured some operatives in the crowd?
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Re: Why Did the ZAPRUDER FILM Skip as JFK’s Limo Turned on to Elm Street?
Actually, I think more than 3 or 4 seconds were expunged.
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The driver shot kennedy turned around real quick and did it in full view, any and all witnesses where silenced paid off or black mailed, video of course edited and alternate narrative provided... really the fact they got away with something like that so easily back then proves they can make anyone dissapear easily.
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No. How would the driver (who was in the front left driver’s seat) shoot Kennedy (who was in the back/right seat two rows back behind Governor Connally and his wife) in the right temple?
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Re: Why Did the ZAPRUDER FILM Skip as JFK’s Limo Turned on to Elm Street?
Actually the Z film is a hoax from beginning to end...

What other "amateur" camera buff filming a presidential motorcade that is not only shot at but shot more than once and the president is killed on camera doesn't flinch or react at all to the shots and continues to pan free handed keeping the president centered in his viewfinder and film and even catches the fatal shot

That's just in-credible!

He was there for a purpose and that purpose was at least two fold: to provide a base film used by the alphabet agencies to create what we know as the Z film, excising frames and adjusting speed, stepping up the zoom and adding blur to the final headshot, etc. AND to be mr. ordinary american who just happened to be in the right place at the wrong time to capture this "king kill" ritual and give it the imprimateur of authenticity.

Z was there with his secretary and was ultimately paid a huge amount in 1963 dollars for his film services by, I believe, Life magazine and then he and his family promptly disappeared from the world with their inflation adjusted millions.

Like I said, that's just in-credible.
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...@ the internet...GEORGE H.W. BUSH WAS STANDING IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING...(PHOTO OF G.H.W. BUSH IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING ON THE INTERNET)...bump
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Re: Why Did the ZAPRUDER FILM Skip as JFK’s Limo Turned on to Elm Street?
Actually the Z film is a hoax from beginning to end...

What other "amateur" camera buff filming a presidential motorcade that is not only shot at but shot more than once and the president is killed on camera doesn't flinch or react at all to the shots and continues to pan free handed keeping the president centered in his viewfinder and film and even catches the fatal shot

That's just in-credible!

He was there for a purpose and that purpose was at least two fold: to provide a base film used by the alphabet agencies to create what we know as the Z film, excising frames and adjusting speed, stepping up the zoom and adding blur to the final headshot, etc. AND to be mr. ordinary american who just happened to be in the right place at the wrong time to capture this "king kill" ritual and give it the imprimateur of authenticity.

Z was there with his secretary and was ultimately paid a huge amount in 1963 dollars for his film services by, I believe, Life magazine and then he and his family promptly disappeared from the world with their inflation adjusted millions.

Like I said, that's just in-credible.
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Good points. Many other people were hitting the deck when the gunshots rang out. But old Abe just kept on filming. Like you said, nary a flinch.
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Re: Why Did the ZAPRUDER FILM Skip as JFK’s Limo Turned on to Elm Street?
But the question remains...

Why the obvious editing out frames as JFK’s limo makes the turn on to Elm Street?

You’d think if certain frames were be expunged, they’d be the head shot.

But instead, 5 seconds (rough estimate) are deleted as JFK’s limo turns on to Elm Street (between 1:08 and 1:09 in the video in the original post above).
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Re: Why Did the ZAPRUDER FILM Skip as JFK’s Limo Turned on to Elm Street?
But the question remains...

Why the obvious editing out frames as JFK’s limo makes the turn on to Elm Street?

You’d think if certain frames were be expunged, they’d be the head shot.

But instead, 5 seconds (rough estimate) are deleted as JFK’s limo turns on to Elm Street (between 1:08 and 1:09 in the video in the original post above).
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He took his finger off the trigger and stopped filming for a couple of seconds.
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Re: Why Did the ZAPRUDER FILM Skip as JFK’s Limo Turned on to Elm Street?
The original footage would be better quality if extracted today. It was purposefully released blurry and edited.
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Re: Why Did the ZAPRUDER FILM Skip as JFK’s Limo Turned on to Elm Street?
But the question remains...

Why the obvious editing out frames as JFK’s limo makes the turn on to Elm Street?

You’d think if certain frames were be expunged, they’d be the head shot.

But instead, 5 seconds (rough estimate) are deleted as JFK’s limo turns on to Elm Street (between 1:08 and 1:09 in the video in the original post above).
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He took his finger off the trigger and stopped filming for a couple of seconds.
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Why wouldn't he want to film the atmosphere, but rather only the President? Sightseers try to capture the environment. Imagine a friend talking about having gone to the amusement park and shows you their one picture of the ride they like and went to see?
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Re: Why Did the ZAPRUDER FILM Skip as JFK’s Limo Turned on to Elm Street?
1:09 Seriously anyone???

PT 109 JFK ???
Come on now it's all a Script.

Ironically the First Tower was hit at 8:46 and now Floyd was choked for 8:46


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Re: Why Did the ZAPRUDER FILM Skip as JFK’s Limo Turned on to Elm Street?
You youngsters are so cute trying to figure out JFK's demise. Pointless thought experiment. It should easily keep you occupied till your incarceration in the gulags.
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Re: Why Did the ZAPRUDER FILM Skip as JFK’s Limo Turned on to Elm Street?
JFK faked his death?
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You youngsters are so cute trying to figure out JFK's demise. Pointless thought experiment. It should easily keep you occupied till your incarceration in the gulags.
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You are gay. And fagggit.
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Re: Why Did the ZAPRUDER FILM Skip as JFK’s Limo Turned on to Elm Street?
But the question remains...

Why the obvious editing out frames as JFK’s limo makes the turn on to Elm Street?

You’d think if certain frames were be expunged, they’d be the head shot.

But instead, 5 seconds (rough estimate) are deleted as JFK’s limo turns on to Elm Street (between 1:08 and 1:09 in the video in the original post above).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77889009


He took his finger off the trigger and stopped filming for a couple of seconds.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77898421

Are you sure?

If so, why?
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Re: Why Did the ZAPRUDER FILM Skip as JFK’s Limo Turned on to Elm Street?
Another one, just conveniently there...

"FILMING THE EVENT"...
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Another one, just conveniently there...

"FILMING THE EVENT"...

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Yep. Like Jules Naudet on 9/11 at the intersection of Church and Lispenard Streets at 8:46 AM. Being born in France does not a Frenchman make.
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Re: Why Did the ZAPRUDER FILM Skip as JFK’s Limo Turned on to Elm Street?
@ 1:20 you can see the driver's gun... left hand over right shoulder.

Last Edited by Four Minutes to Omegaa on 06/10/2020 07:17 AM
hello?
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Re: Why Did the ZAPRUDER FILM Skip as JFK’s Limo Turned on to Elm Street?
@ 1:20 you can see the driver's gun... left hand over right shoulder.
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Theatrics.

No one died.
hello?
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time traveling video editors, of course!

chuckle
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Re: Why Did the ZAPRUDER FILM Skip as JFK’s Limo Turned on to Elm Street?
Has anyone ever addressed this before?

Watch the video below. Zapruder’s footage starts at 1:00 (when the distinctive noise of a film camera can be heard).

The “skip” in the film occurs at 1:09.

You can rewind and see how the locations/positions of the various people on the sidewalk and the police motorcycles differ considerably from 1:08 to 1:09 in the video.

If I had to estimate, I’d say a good 3 or 4 seconds were expunged from Zapruder’s film.

Zapruder handed his film over to authorities, from where it made its way to J. Edgar Hoover’s FBI.

Did Zapruder capture something/someone just after the 1:08 mark that the FBI didn’t want anyone to see?


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It has been told for years the TRUTH of "that day"
Nobody Died and NObody got hurt that day IT was a DUMMY with a punk'n head prop, not a real man..
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Re: Why Did the ZAPRUDER FILM Skip as JFK’s Limo Turned on to Elm Street?
The amount of film missing from Mr. Zapruder's camera is 6 minutes. The reason I know, because I was there in front of the book depository building in 1962 when JFK was hit. The film was kept at Time Magazine for 3 months while a CIA technical film team figured out how to excise those six minutes from Mr. Zapruder's film. The reason being the motorcade stopped for six minutes as it entered the triangle of fire.
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@ 1:20 you can see the driver's gun... left hand over right shoulder.
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Theatrics.

No one died.
 Quoting: Four Minutes to Omega


yes indeed cheers, just a dummy. Nobody died nobody got hurt.
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Re: Why Did the ZAPRUDER FILM Skip as JFK’s Limo Turned on to Elm Street?
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The amount of film missing from Mr. Zapruder's camera is 6 minutes. The reason I know, because I was there in front of the book depository building in 1962 when JFK was hit. The film was kept at Time Magazine for 3 months while a CIA technical film team figured out how to excise those six minutes from Mr. Zapruder's film. The reason being the motorcade stopped for six minutes as it entered the triangle of fire.
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no
NObody DIed Nobody got Hurt
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fact, anyone, without exception, telling you any different is IN fact a Liar and a SPiritual Murderer.
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JFK shot 1st
justifiable homicide
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Re: Why Did the ZAPRUDER FILM Skip as JFK’s Limo Turned on to Elm Street?
Another one, just conveniently there...

"FILMING THE EVENT"...

 Quoting: COVID19


Yep. Like Jules Naudet on 9/11 at the intersection of Church and Lispenard Streets at 8:46 AM. Being born in France does not a Frenchman make.
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Naudet is quite the filmmaker. He did a documentary on Paris attacks too (think,it was Charlie Hebdo)
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fact, anyone, without exception, telling you any different is IN fact a Liar and a SPiritual Murderer.
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Lee Harvey Oswald Died.
hello?
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Re: Why Did the ZAPRUDER FILM Skip as JFK’s Limo Turned on to Elm Street?
Could Zapruder have been the shooter?

Always thought something was fishy about the missing frames and sign in front.
I mean wouldn't you go in front of the sign and not be obstructed while filming?

And always thought somehow the film was a fake?





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