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I've alienated my family due to their views on Covid and the riots

 
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I don't care who you are. If you believe Covid was real or the riots are somehow an organic creation then we're done. My sister, my mother, my best friend... all gone. They are enemies of freedom and therefore my enemy.
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You are right about the riots. Wrong about covid

At any rate you have become a dbag
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There is nothing wrong with OP. There is ALWAYS something wrong with Leftists. I've been through this myself and so has my husband - even with his family. They WILL NOT listen to anyone else's opinions, especially conservatives or Trump supporters. I cannot tell you how nasty people we have known for YEARS - and for him, his relatives - because we dared to express political opinions they don't agree with. People who will not accept you and who treat you like dirt because you're a Trump supporter or a conservative don't love you and they won't support you in a crisis. It's better to cut the ties than to pretend. He did the right thing.
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There is nothing wrong with OP. There is ALWAYS something wrong with Leftists. I've been through this myself and so has my husband - even with his family. They WILL NOT listen to anyone else's opinions, especially conservatives or Trump supporters. I cannot tell you how nasty people we have known for YEARS - and for him, his relatives - because we dared to express political opinions they don't agree with. People who will not accept you and who treat you like dirt because you're a Trump supporter or a conservative don't love you and they won't support you in a crisis. It's better to cut the ties than to pretend. He did the right thing.
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Houston... We have a BINGO ^^^
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Looks like division has won. Now we fight against ourselves.
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There are times when a fight is unavoidable. Do you wish for unity with the barbarian swinging a machete as he runs your way? He will agree to your unity if you accept his right to kill you. What then?

And, what about all the people who are cheering the barbarian on? Emboldening him? Providing him resources? Calling you names if you so much as question his right to kill you?

Are you going to sing John Lennon's "imagine" in their direction, and hope for the best?
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I don't care who you are. If you believe Covid was real or the riots are somehow an organic creation then we're done. My sister, my mother, my best friend... all gone. They are enemies of freedom and therefore my enemy.
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hesright
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Plenty of warnings over the many years. I still love you but should've headed.... Sounds about right.
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Where is OP?
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Same boat.
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Why do white people hate being white so much? Why are so many of our white kids hating us?

I have family that I no longer want in my home. They have publicly talked about killing cops, hat I ng our racist family, boycotting 4th of July because America is evil because of the way we treat black people, and ending capitalism.

Deep in my soul I want to cry.

My family as a whole has been fair to everyone. In the 70s we were hiring and promoting blacks who had served time for nonviolent offenses, when no one else would hire them.

We not only rented to a couple of really nice, good gay couples, but we actively defended them a few times when it was needed.

Our black neighbor went blind, and we did what we could to help. My mom looked out for the boys like she did the other neighborhood kids.

My elders taught us not to mix races, they said for the kids' sake, but never gave a crap if others did. My best friend, now dead, had 2 mixed kids. They were always welcome at our house.

So wtf did we get so evil?
We never thought anyone's life didn't matter.

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:juststop:
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Just DON'T talk about those touchy subjects. Refuse to argue. Stop the effort to change their minds.
Spare yourself the grief.

I hardly know ANYBODY who isn't programmed by narratives pushed by the media.
Hardly anyone is a critical thinker anymore.

Try to throw in common sense comments or rational thinking type comments.
The programming or brainwashing is SO STRONG.
They probably won't change.

My sister is coo-coo for Cocoa Puffs and I had to cut her off. Her whole life is wiping down doorknobs and switch plates. Her fears have corrupted her mind an her belief system is total whack. But you know what? She has dozens of friends who think just like her.

If your family is making you crazy then you have to maintain your mental health. Do what you need to do to stay sane.
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Why do white people hate being white so much? Why are so many of our white kids hating us?

I have family that I no longer want in my home. They have publicly talked about killing cops, hat I ng our racist family, boycotting 4th of July because America is evil because of the way we treat black people, and ending capitalism.

Deep in my soul I want to cry.

My family as a whole has been fair to everyone. In the 70s we were hiring and promoting blacks who had served time for nonviolent offenses, when no one else would hire them.

We not only rented to a couple of really nice, good gay couples, but we actively defended them a few times when it was needed.

Our black neighbor went blind, and we did what we could to help. My mom looked out for the boys like she did the other neighborhood kids.

My elders taught us not to mix races, they said for the kids' sake, but never gave a crap if others did. My best friend, now dead, had 2 mixed kids. They were always welcome at our house.

So wtf did we get so evil?
We never thought anyone's life didn't matter.
 Quoting: Hadriana


No race of human beings has been so giving, sharing, welcoming of others, and willing to admit fault as white people.

They are about the only race who doesn't generally speaking believe in their own ethnic superiority. Indian people think they are superior, as do Chinese, Koreans, you name it. (Only exception I can think of is the Polynesians, who will defend themselves but do not walk around thinking they are the master race).
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I don't care who you are. If you believe Covid was real or the riots are somehow an organic creation then we're done. My sister, my mother, my best friend... all gone. They are enemies of freedom and therefore my enemy.
 Quoting: Person445


WTF? None of that makes them your enemies. From what you said, you are your enemy, not them. Agree to disagree and learn some tolerance. Maybe along the way you and they will come into new information changing your opinions. That includes you.
Until that day, don't continue to be a stupid hard ass.
Apologize. Agree to disagree.
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Why do white people hate being white so much? Why are so many of our white kids hating us?

I have family that I no longer want in my home. They have publicly talked about killing cops, hat I ng our racist family, boycotting 4th of July because America is evil because of the way we treat black people, and ending capitalism.

Deep in my soul I want to cry.

My family as a whole has been fair to everyone. In the 70s we were hiring and promoting blacks who had served time for nonviolent offenses, when no one else would hire them.

We not only rented to a couple of really nice, good gay couples, but we actively defended them a few times when it was needed.

Our black neighbor went blind, and we did what we could to help. My mom looked out for the boys like she did the other neighborhood kids.

My elders taught us not to mix races, they said for the kids' sake, but never gave a crap if others did. My best friend, now dead, had 2 mixed kids. They were always welcome at our house.

So wtf did we get so evil?
We never thought anyone's life didn't matter.
 Quoting: Hadriana




They have been through an extreme program of brainwashing that has gone on for decades. TV & the news media are a general, casual part of it - lying to us ALL THE TIME ABOUT EVERYTHING - I mean that literally. But the worst of it is the "education" system from Day Care (which NO children should ever be in) on through college. It is a rigorous brain washing program solely based on putting left wing ideas and values into kids' heads and destroying any traditional values or ideas they might have.

They are organized, they follow Communism, Senator Joe McCarthy was RIGHT back in the 50s and they mocked and slandered him, and we are DECADES behind these foul Marxist animals.

But the first step is we have to become aware of the brainwashing and programming and figure out how to stop it and do counter-education in traditional American values and history.

The time IS NOW.
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Did they do this to you OP? Own it dont twist it.
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I don't care who you are. If you believe Covid was real or the riots are somehow an organic creation then we're done. My sister, my mother, my best friend... all gone. They are enemies of freedom and therefore my enemy.
 Quoting: Person445


WTF? None of that makes them your enemies. From what you said, you are your enemy, not them. Agree to disagree and learn some tolerance. Maybe along the way you and they will come into new information changing your opinions. That includes you.
Until that day, don't continue to be a stupid hard ass.
Apologize. Agree to disagree.
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Leftists have literally NO TOLERANCE for the views of others. The problem is NOT OP. The problem is his LEFTIST RELATIVES. I've seen this over and over in the past 5 years. The Left is vicious and hive minded and if you deviate from their beliefs and dare to be independent, they will be rude, nasty, angry, vicious and possibly dangerous.

Stop attacking OP. He knows his family - not you people. If he thinks they're a bunch of Leftist assholes he doesn't want anything to do with....he's undoubtedly right.
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This garbage has to stop. That’s your Family. If you don’t agree talk about someone else.
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Wrong. If a man doesn't live by his convictions, then he isn't a man, hes a cuck.
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I don't care who you are. If you believe Covid was real or the riots are somehow an organic creation then we're done. My sister, my mother, my best friend... all gone. They are enemies of freedom and therefore my enemy.
 Quoting: Person445


Sounds like shit liberals say on Twitter. "If you don't believe blah blah blah, we're DONE". Well newsflash, covid19 is actually real. Maybe the topic has been littered with disinfo and bad stats, but whatever it is, it's killing people. I have a friend that just lost two family members a couple of weeks ago. I have another friend who has lost countless family members to it. And we have respected forum posters right here at GLP who have lost people and have even caught it themselves.

We agree about the riots, but it doesn't matter. You're still acting like a crybaby. BELIEVE WHAT I DO OR I'M GOING HOME! Ok, Karen.
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juststop
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Just DON'T talk about those touchy subjects. Refuse to argue. Stop the effort to change their minds.
Spare yourself the grief.

I hardly know ANYBODY who isn't programmed by narratives pushed by the media.
Hardly anyone is a critical thinker anymore.

Try to throw in common sense comments or rational thinking type comments.
The programming or brainwashing is SO STRONG.
They probably won't change.

My sister is coo-coo for Cocoa Puffs and I had to cut her off. Her whole life is wiping down doorknobs and switch plates. Her fears have corrupted her mind an her belief system is total whack. But you know what? She has dozens of friends who think just like her.

If your family is making you crazy then you have to maintain your mental health. Do what you need to do to stay sane.
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Sounds like that's what OP DID. We've pretty much done the same thing - except some of the Leftists we know cut us off first. I discovered ALL of my friends are Leftists and I haven't talked to most of them in probably a couple of years at least. I CAN'T talk to them. Whenever anything happens and they start going on about their political stuff and how much they HATE TRUMP - and they are literally OBSESSED with him - if I try to say anything in his defense or disagree with them on any topic, they get really nasty and make out that I'm the dummy or I don't know what I'm talking about or how can you defend that racist, etc, etc. And I'm not even enthused about Trump! But he's been treated so unfairly!

So fuck the Left, I don't want to be involved with them in general. I don't want to pretend I like people I no longer really do. I'm appalled at things I've heard them say - to ME and to my husband (which makes me angrier).

The only thing I am concerned about is - CAN WE SAVE THE CHILDREN? We have to figure out how to end the brainwashing.

And I also disagree that we should avoid talking about politics or quell our own views. They NEED to hear REALITY whether they like it or not or whether it upsets them or not or whether it causes friction or not.

I'm not a fucking stuffed animal and I don't live in a closet.
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I don't care who you are. If you believe Covid was real or the riots are somehow an organic creation then we're done. My sister, my mother, my best friend... all gone. They are enemies of freedom and therefore my enemy.
 Quoting: Person445


WTF? None of that makes them your enemies. From what you said, you are your enemy, not them. Agree to disagree and learn some tolerance. Maybe along the way you and they will come into new information changing your opinions. That includes you.
Until that day, don't continue to be a stupid hard ass.
Apologize. Agree to disagree.
 Quoting: Moon&Stars



Leftists have literally NO TOLERANCE for the views of others. The problem is NOT OP. The problem is his LEFTIST RELATIVES. I've seen this over and over in the past 5 years. The Left is vicious and hive minded and if you deviate from their beliefs and dare to be independent, they will be rude, nasty, angry, vicious and possibly dangerous.

Stop attacking OP. He knows his family - not you people. If he thinks they're a bunch of Leftist assholes he doesn't want anything to do with....he's undoubtedly right.
 Quoting: Blue State Rebel


Undoubtedly.

And for those who think it is somehow unchristian to stand up for what is right even if it costs you your dear family, I offer Jesus' words, in the context of who is welcome to share his 'supper':

Luke 14:26-27
If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.
And whosoever doth not bear his cross, and come after me, cannot be my disciple.

Got that?

Anyone who sells out truth and justice and decency to stay in the good graces of his rabid and morally corrupt leftist family cannot be Jesus' disciple. It's that simple.
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This garbage has to stop. That’s your Family. If you don’t agree talk about someone else.
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Wrong. If a man doesn't live by his convictions, then he isn't a man, hes a cuck.
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You are absolutely right. People have to stick to their convictions, even with their families. Besides...it's their only shot at reality, they need to hear it. When they eventually crash from all the lies they believe, it will be much harder if they NEVER hear another point of view from someone else.
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I don't care who you are. If you believe Covid was real or the riots are somehow an organic creation then we're done. My sister, my mother, my best friend... all gone. They are enemies of freedom and therefore my enemy.
 Quoting: Person445


WTF? None of that makes them your enemies. From what you said, you are your enemy, not them. Agree to disagree and learn some tolerance. Maybe along the way you and they will come into new information changing your opinions. That includes you.
Until that day, don't continue to be a stupid hard ass.
Apologize. Agree to disagree.
 Quoting: Moon&Stars



Leftists have literally NO TOLERANCE for the views of others. The problem is NOT OP. The problem is his LEFTIST RELATIVES. I've seen this over and over in the past 5 years. The Left is vicious and hive minded and if you deviate from their beliefs and dare to be independent, they will be rude, nasty, angry, vicious and possibly dangerous.

Stop attacking OP. He knows his family - not you people. If he thinks they're a bunch of Leftist assholes he doesn't want anything to do with....he's undoubtedly right.
 Quoting: Blue State Rebel


Undoubtedly.

And for those who think it is somehow unchristian to stand up for what is right even if it costs you your dear family, I offer Jesus' words, in the context of who is welcome to share his 'supper':

Luke 14:26-27
If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.
And whosoever doth not bear his cross, and come after me, cannot be my disciple.

Got that?

Anyone who sells out truth and justice and decency to stay in the good graces of his rabid and morally corrupt leftist family cannot be Jesus' disciple. It's that simple.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78169176



Yup. He also said he came not to bring peace but to put a sword between relatives. Because some would believe in Christ and some would not, and those who would not - they're the ones who would pick UP that sword.
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I don't care who you are. If you believe Covid was real or the riots are somehow an organic creation then we're done. My sister, my mother, my best friend... all gone. They are enemies of freedom and therefore my enemy.
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ahhahaha if they have diferent views than mine tehy are enemies of freedom ahahahah How the fuck this even makes sense in your head? I will not even go further saying that you are completely wrong. If you think sarscov isnt real you are far gone mate.
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Thinking about this now, there is a bit of irony here in relation to the government in regards to the Covid and riot scandals.

Use love, not force, to win people over to your side.

Let them know that you understand their point of view. Show empathy, even if they don't know what the means.

Force or neglect never convinces anyone. Defuse, defuse, defuse...then you can open the door to dialogue. Have your facts straight.

Keep in mind, you cannot win everyone with logic. Most people are not logic driven, unfortunately. You must speak their language. Be creative in your approach. Manipulation is not evil if it is done out of love for a greater good. Manipulation does not always imply disingenuous. You must manipulate your child sometimes to take medicine or eat her veggies.

I don't have all the answers but this is a good start.
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I don't care who you are. If you believe Covid was real or the riots are somehow an organic creation then we're done. My sister, my mother, my best friend... all gone. They are enemies of freedom and therefore my enemy.
 Quoting: Person445


Hahaha! Has it just started to sink in?
Anyway, better late than never.

That's what I think.
Thread: NPCs constitute at least 99 % of this reality (GLP included)

Yes, it's quite tough to realize something about your next of kin.
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what you need to do is start feeding them more bullshit such as : I think All white people should be made slaves to see what its like, we should give Negroes all of our wealth, all cops should be fired...YOu get the idea,,,feed them more bullshit and then never let them live it down., In 5 years, when the BLM craze is over, keep up the bullshit with them.
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Most of mine went 20 years ago.

9/11 was the beginning for me.
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I don't care who you are. If you believe Covid was real or the riots are somehow an organic creation then we're done. My sister, my mother, my best friend... all gone. They are enemies of freedom and therefore my enemy.
 Quoting: Person445


I have done the same, and now my life is peaceful and calm, my father is the only one I talk to know and that's because he knows better he just suffers their politics silently. Told him the other day I would support a divorce if he decided to get away from their hysteria and marxist views, for the first time ever he said he would think about it.
 Quoting: Ozamandias


Once you verbally attack curse me with uncontrollable anger if front of my child - brother gone

Once you verbally attack curse my wife with uncontrollable anger to many times - my mother gone

They’re the same gene pool.

My father has values and does not attempt this hatred as do I.

those two were bad before all this started, must of been weak minded and the evilness settled in Long ago.

Some people become influenced by evil entities. Time to walkway and let them walk their own path alone.

Are they forgiven, sure. But does not mean I should let them into my lives.
I have peace now and so does my household

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I don't care who you are. If you believe Covid was real or the riots are somehow an organic creation then we're done. My sister, my mother, my best friend... all gone. They are enemies of freedom and therefore my enemy.
 Quoting: Person445


WTF? None of that makes them your enemies. From what you said, you are your enemy, not them. Agree to disagree and learn some tolerance. Maybe along the way you and they will come into new information changing your opinions. That includes you.
Until that day, don't continue to be a stupid hard ass.
Apologize. Agree to disagree.
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Tolerance is tacit agreement. Sorry, co can do.
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I don't care who you are. If you believe Covid was real or the riots are somehow an organic creation then we're done. My sister, my mother, my best friend... all gone. They are enemies of freedom and therefore my enemy.
 Quoting: Person445


So what your saying is you alienated people who care about you because you have such a narrow mind on something that is based on opinion? Because they have a different opinion than you? That's like saying you believe in God and you are willing to alienate anyone who doesn't believe in him either.

Your family and friends are better off without you and your narrow-minded view. I hope you come to the point where you realize how brainwashed you are, because you are willing to push away the people who care about you because they view the world differently than you do.

You need to stop being sucked into all this propaganda and wake up and use your actual brain.

Think about the world as a Television. Each person exists on each channel, their reality. Every person and every TV channel has a different reality. Each channel observes the world differently. You can't expect people to understand your perspective. THEY NEVER WILL.

So goodluck. Pushing everyone in your life away that has a different opinion on you. At the end of it all you will be surrounded by nobody.
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I don't care who you are. If you believe Covid was real or the riots are somehow an organic creation then we're done. My sister, my mother, my best friend... all gone. They are enemies of freedom and therefore my enemy.
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What a fool you are OP.

You're playing out the narrative. Divide and conquer.

Anyone who has a different opinion than your own is not your enemy. Get a grip. Stop making this all about you and what you want.
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Exactly, that's the same logic the libtards use. We should be able to disagree and still remain friends. Just take a break from them, but I would suggest you feel sympathy for them rather than anger. Think of them as mind control victims.





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