Why being a Tribulation Saint is a dangerous second best choice to being Raptured.

So can you quote anyone actually saying that Paul was only sent to preach to the J.w's, or do we just have to take your word for it?

if scripture PROVES it... SHOW ME the scripture... I'm not interested in your opinion... show me where Jesus went to a pastor, show me where anyone but Paul mentions the body of Christ... show me where Caiaphas was a pastor, show me where the temple in Jersalem had deacons, pastors and bishops, show me where Jesus told the 12 ALL things were lawful for them...is YOUR version of GOD'S word manmade?

Drop the pride and arrogance and BELIEVE what GOD says instead showing how little you know...

news flash... there was no such thing as a paster until Paul... Paul CLEARLY outlines his church structure.. and it has NOTHING to do with rabbi's, high priests, temples or law keeping... if you were saved, you'd know this... get saved!
Name me 1 "Christian" church that has rabbi's and high priests... just one...

funny that someone who DEMANDS scripture proof, isn't able to provide any... plenty of opinion though...

Catholics have "priests".

The word "pastors" is used in the Old Testament.

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show me the scripture...

Paul was sent to the entire world...

Where did he say "Paul only to the "J.w's"????? He didn't. Yet your thread buddy says Paul ONLY for gentiles.

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Here's the LINK AGAIN

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According to YOU - "ONLY gentiles".



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Quit with the attempts at derailment with the Paul nonsense.

Your play acting, posing as a Christian is wearing a bit thin and fooling no one. There are people with only a limited knowledge of Christianity who are reading this thread and others like it searching for the truth. Your just a modern day Pharisee standing at the gate hindering those who would enter.

………...……... The Rapture is fast approaching...……….

……….Do not listen to the wolfs in sheep's clothing who have crept into the flock and hope to steal the blessed hope away from you.

1Th 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
1Th 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
1Th 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
1Th 4:18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

You have still been blessed with a little time so don't waste it. Turn to the Lord now while you are still able and He will be quick to hear you. But don't take all day about it you could be hit by a bus tomorrow and then where would you be.

... that's right, I never said at the EXCLUSION of the j*ws... but that's exactly what happened after the Jerusalem council where Peter agreed to go to the J*ws only and Paul would go everyone else...

and Judithz is right... I'm done with you. This is NOT what this thread is about... and seriously, I couldn't care less what you believe,and if I have lead you, at any time, to believe otherwise, I apologize... your opinion means less than nothing to me...

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Why being a False Prophet is a dangerous second best choice to keeping your mouth shut when you're full of bad theology

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I still have no idea what you are on about.

Everyone is a sinner, duh
Thats what you get for casting such a wide net no one can escape the defination

Woah, you are weird.

Ah you will have to take that question up with a Higher Authority, it's above my pay grade.

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dear sister, please note the timing
29 “Immediately AFTER the distress of those days

“‘the sun will be darkened,
and the moon will not give its light;
the stars will fall from the sky,
and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.’

30 “Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth[c] will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory.[d] 31 And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his ELECT from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.
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Some of us are here to witness the tribulation. We are spiritually sound and good with the Lord. But he needs witnesses to what will happen.

Yes I sometimes wonder how things will play out in the years ahead and I've got to admit that it can get pretty confusing, there are so many things going on with Israel (The Time of Jacob's Trouble.) that tie in with all of this, and everything will be darkness and confusion.

The big problem is that so many people just are not very interested in the Salvation of their souls, and I have to admit that I was one of them for about the first 30 years of my life. I guess the key is to not worry too much about what happens tomorrow and just concentrate on the job at hand.

No I don't think that you are, as you put it "spiritually sound and good with the Lord." Obviously what I wrote in my first post went right through you. to refresh your memory I said... If you are still here after the Rapture then it was because you ignored all the warnings, and where not right with the Lord when it happened. You may not even get the chance to become a Tribulation Saint because you could be wiped out in an instant by a nuclear bomb or some other means. And that would be it as far as you are concerned.
There are many people with a blasé attitude why have latched onto all kinds of lying doctrines, because they want to have their cake and eat it. And that is something that is going to work against you.

And besides all that what about the here and now? Are you just sat there sucking your thumb and having happy thoughts. Think about it: if you are doing nothing now while you are still able, then just what makes you think that you will become a mighty warrior for the Lord at some future date, if you should live so long?

Jeremiah 17:9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?

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You must feel you are better then the 2 witnesses, the 144K and the rememant who will definitely be here during the tribulation.

Rev 14:4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb. 5 And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God.

Rev 11:3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.

Rev 7:14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

Rev 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

No it is the pretrib rapture that is false and you are leading people in error. You do not believe God can protect his people.

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Last Edited by Achduke7 on 06/11/2020 07:30 AM

The 2 witnesses and the 144K are all of the 12 tribes of Israel. Don't forget that the Great Tribulation is also known as the Time of Jacob's Trouble. By the rememant I assume that you mean the Tribulation Saints, in which case see what I have written above.

Like there is a choice.

Blessed hope is a trap.

Are you implying that we ain't?

That's a very gloomy view of life that you have there. The Lord created you and He wants you to join Him in Heaven. But you do have to turn to Him with all your heart, so cheer up it ain't all doom and gloom.

So I replied to your question and then you deleted my reply because you do not like my answer?

Would the pre-tribbers be a part of the elect when the elect are gathered after the tribulation like it says in Matthew 24 and according to pre-tribbers they would not even be around?

Matthew 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

Also notice that this corresponds to Revelation 6 at the sixth seal. This is noted at this point to be the Great day of his wrath. Before this is the tribulation but after Rev 6/Matt 24:29 is Wrath.

Rev 6:12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; 13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind. 14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places. 15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; 16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: 17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?



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Last Edited by Achduke7 on 06/12/2020 07:55 AM

That's the way it goes, sometimes I just don't feel like dealing with your never ending neigh saying. In any case your and thingies deleted reply's where both about the wheat and the tares, so stick to one thing at a time.

And for a change you've managed to come up with an interesting question, and I think I know the answer but I need to do a bit of research. I also have a lot of other stuff to do today and tomorrow, so you will just have to wait a while.