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There is something of a serious nature that I'd like to ask you guys. It is also of a personal nature, so feel free to respond if you want to. You can even respond as an AC, but I think that I might be onto something here...

I've often attributed my ability to think outside the box and my tendency to lean toward conspiracy theories to my upbringing as a child. I suffered much abuse, both physically and sexually by close family memebers whom I trusted. I can remember specifically the shock I felt at the time that someone who professed to love me could also hurt me so deeply

While I can't conduct an official pole, it would be interesting to know how many that frequent this website were also abused as children by an authority figure whom they trusted. It could be a family member or anyone whom you deemed to be in a trusted position of authority over you, such as a parent or another family member even an older sibling, a police officer, a teacher, a priest etc. You can just say you were abused, you don't have to state which type of abuse. I'll leave that up to you. [Keep in mind though, that by "abuse" I'm not talking about your typical parental spanking or being put on restriction for extended periods of time], while some of you might feel that constituted abuse, I'm talking about physical and sexual abuse to the extreme. Something that happened to you that shook you to your very core and really shocked you that someone you loved and trusted so much could really hurt you in a way that you would never forget.

I'm curious if these types of things can plant a seed in us that, as an adult, would lead us to not just blindly trust who or what we are told by our government or anyone in authority over us as adults.

I think it would be an interesting study to find out if we all have this trait in common, or how many of us do.

As stated, I realise this is a very personal topic and so feel free to bow out or just lurk if you feel like it. Thanks for your participation.

Oh and most of you pretty much know me by now and I would hope that my years here have afforded me some level of trust that I am not some gov. spook out to find out all of your skeletons. This is strickly for my own research to test my theory about my own tendency to lean toward things this website talks about.

PS: Feel free to use this thread as a way to help with your healing if you'd like. Sometimes just talking about it with people you don't know and will probably never meet helps;) And please, any trolls out there, keep in mind that any thing revealed here can be of a very sensitive and personal nature, so please act accordingly. Thank you rose
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you should apply for a grant... i'm sure the 9/11 debunk community would love to have some pie charts to explain the truth polls
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No one (including my Catholic priest) every touched me anywhere, thank you very much.

As for 'abuse' at the hands of Authority figures.....mmmm I consider all authority figures to have engaged in some form of abusive behavior, be it verbal, usurpation of power or denial of natural rights....so I guess I'd have to answer that one as a YES, but again in the sense that I was never molested by anyone - I was never physically beaten either.

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It happens to everyone to some degree because our institutions of power have make it mandatory, they're dependent on the creation of slaves.
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It happens to everyone to some degree because our institutions of power have make it mandatory, they're dependent on the creation of slaves.
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This is true, but I guess what I'm getting at is someone that was not only in authority over you but also someone that you loved and trusted and even more so that you thought loved you back. I would suppose this would be someone that you sensed would feel benevolently toward you so that when the abuse did occur, you were quite litterally stunned.

Thanks for the reply so far...
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Yes, I've been sexually molested by a minister at 18 while in Bible college
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LOL. You don't have to be sexually abused as a child to grow up into an adult that questions the motives of govt. or people. You just need to sit outside some offices for a while to learn how shallow and despicable the human species can be and what it will do to survive and thrive. I could tell you some juicy stories from my early years that lead me down the path to enlightenment of what motivates people to do the things they do, but don't try to tell me they don't them and that it's all just a paranoid fantasy resulting from child abuse or something like that. It could be- for some people.
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Hugs and love go out to ya Miss Lady...
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I guess I'm very fortunate. Never abused. Never mistreated. Came from a loving family that always had my best interests first and formost.
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Perhaps it would help if I told you what started me thinking along these lines?

My husband and I both had very different childhoods growing up. He was pretty much spoiled rotten and had all of his needs met. He was not abused in the way I'm talking about by anyone he loved and trusted.

I on the other hand suffered, neglect, abuse, sexual abuse, you name it.

As adults, he seems to have no patience for my "conspiracy theories" and has even come out and told me that he worries about my sanity. He is quick to debunk anything I try to talk to him about that I see on here. He seems to have a blind trust of authority and our laws. He does have a preference for a certain political party over other ones, but we are total opposites when it comes to my stance on outside the box thinking and his stance inside the box. So I wonder...does our upbringing have anything to do with this?
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LOL. You don't have to be sexually abused as a child to grow up into an adult that questions the motives of govt. or people. You just need to sit outside some offices for a while to learn how shallow and despicable the human species can be and what it will do to survive and thrive. I could tell you some juicy stories from my early years that lead me down the path to enlightenment of what motivates people to do the things they do, but don't try to tell me they don't them and that it's all just a paranoid fantasy resulting from child abuse or something like that. It could be- for some people.
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Hmmm. interesting take on things. Just so I understand you, your saying that you didn't suffer abuse as a child, the kind I'm talking about? And you arrived at these conclusions as an adult through experience?
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Yes, I've been sexually molested by a minister at 18 while in Bible college
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I'm sorry you had to go through that, and thank you for participating in this thread. rose
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Nope, no abuse of any kind here... and except maybe if ya would consider how most grown ups treat children within their own disregardings.

No and no, lol, if anything I had a more than 'Leave It To Beaver', 'Father Knows Best', and 'Dennis The Menace' kinda childhood... why, I majored in 'play' so very well that I just never stopped, lol. And and and, as far as them conspiracies go... well, just enter man into just about any kinda equation and you're bound to come up with a conspiracy here and there and/or everywheres... and don't ya think?
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I guess I'm very fortunate. Never abused. Never mistreated. Came from a loving family that always had my best interests first and formost.
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Yes you are fortunate, but isn't it a sad state of things when what should be considered a normal upbringing has to be considered a 'fortunate' one.
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Not abused.
I think it's my #7 life path number that makes me this way.(sum of month, day and year of birth reduced to its sum (7, 16=7, 25=7, 34=7)
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let me just say that op is thinking in the completely wrong direction...spirituality or "awakening" isn't caused by any "abuses".

maybe you'll figure that at some point in your life.

i was NEVER abused at any time, yet i'm practicing shamanism/emphatics/telephatics/remote viewing/out of body experiences and so on very well...a few years i've come to full awakening and now know who and what i really am and what i'm REALLT able of ;)

cheers
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Nope, no abuse of any kind here... and except maybe if ya would consider how most grown ups treat children within their own disregardings.

No and no, lol, if anything I had a more than 'Leave It To Beaver', 'Father Knows Best', and 'Dennis The Menace' kinda childhood... why, I majored in 'play' so very well that I just never stopped, lol. And and and, as far as them conspiracies go... well, just enter man into just about any kinda equation and you're bound to come up with a conspiracy here and there and/or everywheres... and don't ya think?
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I think given the current state of the world, that would be a fair assumption Gooderboy. It's good to know that many on here did have a normal childhood
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let me just say that op is thinking in the completely wrong direction...spirituality or "awakening" isn't caused by any "abuses".

maybe you'll figure that at some point in your life.

i was NEVER abused at any time, yet i'm practicing shamanism/emphatics/telephatics/remote viewing/out of body experiences and so on very well...a few years i've come to full awakening and now know who and what i really am and what i'm REALLT able of ;)

cheers
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Thanks for responding, and it would appear that so far you guys have debunked my own theory;) Can I ask you what were the circumstances of your initial trek into your journey of self discovery?? Also would you say that you parents were supportive of your ideas and interests while growing up, or would you say they were more consirvative of them, in terms of your parents deeming them a danger to your developement in some way?
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Nope, no abuse of any kind here... and except maybe if ya would consider how most grown ups treat children within their own disregardings.

No and no, lol, if anything I had a more than 'Leave It To Beaver', 'Father Knows Best', and 'Dennis The Menace' kinda childhood... why, I majored in 'play' so very well that I just never stopped, lol. And and and, as far as them conspiracies go... well, just enter man into just about any kinda equation and you're bound to come up with a conspiracy here and there and/or everywheres... and don't ya think?


I think given the current state of the world, that would be a fair assumption Gooderboy. It's good to know that many on here did have a normal childhood
 Quoting: Lady Wolf


... 'current state' you say, lol... no and no, and come on now.... this same ol' same ol' kinda crapola has been going on for like at least some 10,000 or so years now... none of it's new except for maybe the constant change of names.
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I wish I could identifty with you there, LW, but I just can't. I feel bad that you had to go through a childhood of hardships, but now as an adult you have move on and make sure the people you love don't have to go through the same experiences you did. Discipline when necessary, but always love, no matter what. Peace.
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Nope, no abuse of any kind here... and except maybe if ya would consider how most grown ups treat children within their own disregardings.

No and no, lol, if anything I had a more than 'Leave It To Beaver', 'Father Knows Best', and 'Dennis The Menace' kinda childhood... why, I majored in 'play' so very well that I just never stopped, lol. And and and, as far as them conspiracies go... well, just enter man into just about any kinda equation and you're bound to come up with a conspiracy here and there and/or everywheres... and don't ya think?


I think given the current state of the world, that would be a fair assumption Gooderboy. It's good to know that many on here did have a normal childhood
 Quoting: Lady Wolf


... 'current state' you say, lol... no and no, and come on now.... this same ol' same ol' kinda crapola has been going on for like at least some 10,000 or so years now... none of it's new except for maybe the constant change of names.
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Nope, no abuse of any kind here... and except maybe if ya would consider how most grown ups treat children within their own disregardings.

No and no, lol, if anything I had a more than 'Leave It To Beaver', 'Father Knows Best', and 'Dennis The Menace' kinda childhood... why, I majored in 'play' so very well that I just never stopped, lol. And and and, as far as them conspiracies go... well, just enter man into just about any kinda equation and you're bound to come up with a conspiracy here and there and/or everywheres... and don't ya think?


I think given the current state of the world, that would be a fair assumption Gooderboy. It's good to know that many on here did have a normal childhood
 Quoting: Lady Wolf


... 'current state' you say, lol... no and no, and come on now.... this same ol' same ol' kinda crapola has been going on for like at least some 10,000 or so years now... none of it's new except for maybe the constant change of names.
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Not abused.
I think it's my #7 life path number that makes me this way.(sum of month, day and year of birth reduced to its sum (7, 16=7, 25=7, 34=7)
[link to www.astrology-numerology.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2298


Now this is something I hadn't thought of. So you attribute your interest in these things based on your astrological path?
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May I be sad for you and say, women aren't the only ones raped.

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Nope, no abuse of any kind here... and except maybe if ya would consider how most grown ups treat children within their own disregardings.

No and no, lol, if anything I had a more than 'Leave It To Beaver', 'Father Knows Best', and 'Dennis The Menace' kinda childhood... why, I majored in 'play' so very well that I just never stopped, lol. And and and, as far as them conspiracies go... well, just enter man into just about any kinda equation and you're bound to come up with a conspiracy here and there and/or everywheres... and don't ya think?


I think given the current state of the world, that would be a fair assumption Gooderboy. It's good to know that many on here did have a normal childhood


... 'current state' you say, lol... no and no, and come on now.... this same ol' same ol' kinda crapola has been going on for like at least some 10,000 or so years now... none of it's new except for maybe the constant change of names.
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So are you saying that the world is not getting worse, only changing players then?
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let me just say that op is thinking in the completely wrong direction...spirituality or "awakening" isn't caused by any "abuses".

maybe you'll figure that at some point in your life.

i was NEVER abused at any time, yet i'm practicing shamanism/emphatics/telephatics/remote viewing/out of body experiences and so on very well...a few years i've come to full awakening and now know who and what i really am and what i'm REALLT able of ;)

cheers
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Thanks for responding, and it would appear that so far you guy have debunked my own theory;) Can I ask you what was the circumstances of your intial trek into your journey of self discovery??
 Quoting: Lady Wolf

sure you can ask.

if you know what a totem animal is then you'll understand this:

first of all: i never was interested in obes or kinda' that stuff...i didn't knew anything about it..i was a "hardcore skeptic...shame on me...

5 years ago i had my first REALLY intensive obe where i could see all the bright and sparkling colors of my huge and bright lighted aura. then, on my left side, there was a big and strong female wolf, she said to me "i'm your totem animal, we know each others for decades." she showed told and showed me who and what i really am...and what "powers" i have...and what i'm able to do.

now let's go back to my early childhood:
as i was very little and young i always "floated" out of the bed (which were obes) and saw this big white wolf...i always traveled the whole night with this wolf...

there's more...but that's the most important part of it...
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I wish I could identifty with you there, LW, but I just can't. I feel bad that you had to go through a childhood of hardships, but now as an adult you have move on and make sure the people you love don't have to go through the same experiences you did. Discipline when necessary, but always love, no matter what. Peace.
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Well, perhaps it's a good thing that you can't identify with me, because that would mean that you too would have had to suffer similiar circumstances. Actually I have found that my abuse from step parents probably did contribute to my own raising of a step child. I learned through my own experiences what NOT to put my own step child through. She is now quite an accomplished young lady who is in her second year of college and aspires to be in the medical field. So I often look back at my own experiences and atribute the parenting skills I learned in life's hard knock lessons;) Thank you for your kind words. rose
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let me just say that op is thinking in the completely wrong direction...spirituality or "awakening" isn't caused by any "abuses".

maybe you'll figure that at some point in your life.

i was NEVER abused at any time, yet i'm practicing shamanism/emphatics/telephatics/remote viewing/out of body experiences and so on very well...a few years i've come to full awakening and now know who and what i really am and what i'm REALLT able of ;)

cheers
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Thanks for responding, and it would appear that so far you guy have debunked my own theory;) Can I ask you what was the circumstances of your intial trek into your journey of self discovery??

sure you can ask.

if you know what a totem animal is then you'll understand this:

first of all: i never was interested in obes or kinda' that stuff...i didn't knew anything about it..i was a "hardcore skeptic...shame on me...

5 years ago i had my first REALLY intensive obe where i could see all the bright and sparkling colors of my huge and bright lighted aura. then, on my left side, there was a big and strong female wolf, she said to me "i'm your totem animal, we know each others for decades." she showed told and showed me who and what i really am...and what "powers" i have...and what i'm able to do.

now let's go back to my early childhood:
as i was very little and young i always "floated" out of the bed (which were obes) and saw this big white wolf...i always traveled the whole night with this wolf...

there's more...but that's the most important part of it...
 Quoting: wolf 299446


wow! you are very fortunate to have had such a higher density life! That's wonderful. It sounds like your journey began by your own experience into the higher realms or demensions of life. Awesome testimony! Can I ask what you were doing at the time when these things would happen? Was there any kind of a pattern, in terms of any particular thing you happened to be doing to bring on such experiences or were they more random for you? And thanks:)
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May I be sad for you and say, women aren't the only ones raped.

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Thank you for your compassionate and caring post...but please don't be sad for me. I have come to beleive that our experiences in life shape us into the kind of people we were meant to be. For instance, I would not have known true compassion until I walked a certain mile in the shoes of the one needing compassion;) Blessings to you and I am sorry for your own pain that you have suffered. rose
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let me just say that op is thinking in the completely wrong direction...spirituality or "awakening" isn't caused by any "abuses".

maybe you'll figure that at some point in your life.

i was NEVER abused at any time, yet i'm practicing shamanism/emphatics/telephatics/remote viewing/out of body experiences and so on very well...a few years i've come to full awakening and now know who and what i really am and what i'm REALLT able of ;)

cheers
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Thanks for responding, and it would appear that so far you guy have debunked my own theory;) Can I ask you what was the circumstances of your intial trek into your journey of self discovery??

sure you can ask.

if you know what a totem animal is then you'll understand this:

first of all: i never was interested in obes or kinda' that stuff...i didn't knew anything about it..i was a "hardcore skeptic...shame on me...

5 years ago i had my first REALLY intensive obe where i could see all the bright and sparkling colors of my huge and bright lighted aura. then, on my left side, there was a big and strong female wolf, she said to me "i'm your totem animal, we know each others for decades." she showed told and showed me who and what i really am...and what "powers" i have...and what i'm able to do.

now let's go back to my early childhood:
as i was very little and young i always "floated" out of the bed (which were obes) and saw this big white wolf...i always traveled the whole night with this wolf...

there's more...but that's the most important part of it...


wow! you are very fortunate to have had such a higher density life! That's wonderful. It sounds like your journey began by your own experience into the higher realms or demensions of life. Awesome testimony! Can I ask what you were doing at the time when these things would happen? Was there any kind of a pattern, in terms of any particular thing you happened to be doing to bring on such experiences or were they more random for you? And thanks:)
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well, i just registered here...so all the above was me @ the other wolf ;)...although i told myself NOT to register here lol..now back to this thread:

sometimes they're random and sometimes i want them to occur..and sometimes some of my 22 spirit animals (wolf (main totem), raven, dolphin and winged unicorn/horse are also in there...they're my 4 totems..YES...4 totems ;) ).

shamans say that it's unusual to have so many animals but it's rare...but known...that a shaman can have up to 4 animals.
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Yep, I was sexually abused by a church member too.





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