Why the Rapture may be sooner than many people think.

Sorry guys, there is evidence for a pre-tribulation rapture and it is Scriptural.

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Why does the pre-trib stir people up so much? It is so strange, people get outright hostile and demonized when it comes to fighting against this concept. Very telling that there is something there that angers the spirits in many people within this world.

NONSENSE

READ what Jesus SAID.

I posted it the previous page.

Amen.

Why do people get angry?
Because we grow tired of hypocrites that claim to believe whatever the bible says,but then will do endless mental gymnastics to hold onto their feel good pre tribulation rapture doctrine no matter what.

Jesus talked about the sequence of events for the end of the world.He plainly and clearly stated that the sinners and righteous would remain together until the end at his return.Only then will Gods angels gather then righteous from the corners of the earth.

The claim that there is a silent rapture and then the second coming is man made doctrine.Jesus comes back ONCE at the end of the world and gathers the saved that are alive,and resurrects the righteous dead.

The left behind concept of a silent rapture and then 7 yrs of tribulation is nothing more then fanfiction.

In reality they could care less what Jesus very plainly stated in Matthew 24

1:birth pangs

2: Great Tribulation

3: Christ returns and resurrects the righteous,and gathers his elect from the corners of the earth

Despite their claims that they deeply value the words of Christ,they will choose the feel good delusion their pastor brainwashed them to accept over Jesus words any day.

No amount of common sense or logic works with these nutjobs.

It makes perfect sense from the whole counsel of God in The Bible to me,
here a little, there a little, line upon line, precept upon precept.

If is True, it doesn't matter if you post nothing other than your opinion that it is false thousands more times with every waking moment of all your remaining days.

If it is not True, I am totally fine going forward wherever we go...

If Jesus suddenly seizes away those He chooses straight to be with Him forever after,
what will it matter that you denied it countless times?

Couldn't care less.
Could NOT care less.
Think about it.
Obviously, you never have before...

You are unbelievably retarded if you think you will be “raptured”. No such thing. I hope you feel the discontent when they fake one and you weren’t in it.

Not true.

I live for nothing but Jesus Christ. Otherwise, I am good to go right now...

So why must you say that in reality I don't give the slightest about the words of My Lord and My God because I do not agree with what you say?

Why do you so thoroughly shit on me because I dare disagree with almighty holy you?

Rapture has NOTHING to do with salvation.

1. Repent

Matthew 4:17 (KJV) From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.

Mark 1:15 And saying*, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe* the gospel.


2. Believe

John 3:16 (KJV) For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.


3. Be "born again".

John 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.


4. Forgive others so the Father will forgive you.

Matthew 6:14 For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you:
15 But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.


5. Do the Father's Will

Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

Matthew 12:50 For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.

You know I never once, in hundreds of exchanges with you, said that it did.

So why do you say this?

It's amazing how you never see people getting all worked up over and reviling Amillennialism or the idea of a Post-Tribulational rapture. The pushback is always against a Pre-tribulational Rapture. I think that's because it's true. From my studying of Scripture there are two returns of Jesus, one that's secret and one that the whole world will witness. A lot of people who genuinely believe there won't be a Pre-Trib Rapture have confused the the Rapture with the Second Coming. There are many reasons why the Rapture happens and occurs before the Tribulation. Having it happen during or after the Tribulation causes problems. 1) We are not appointed for wrath. 2) If believers are raised from the dead and translated at the end of the Tribulation, there won't be anyone left on Earth to populate the Kingdom. 3) To think all believers will be resurrected and translated at the Second Coming and then immediately sent back down to populate the world is ridiculous. It means that Jesus will beat the hell out of his bride, have a quick marriage supper of the Lamb, and then send his bride back down to live on Earth, an inferior place to Heaven even during the Millennial Kingdom.

I think we're near the Rapture.



Last Edited by The Ghost of Comedian on 05/04/2020 12:45 AM

That goes two ways.
If God intends for his elect to suffer and be tested,does it matter how many times you deluded your self with false assurances of being spared the times of the tribulation.

Not trying to rain on your parade or personal beliefs, but the catching away will occur AFTER Yaqqob's Trouble/Great Tribulation.

Also, there are two events, one is the catching away of the righteous that made it through to meet the others with Mashiyach Yeshua in the air and return with Him to usher in Malchut Elohim on earth from Yerushalayim!!! HaleluYaH!!!

The other catching away is of the wicked at the end of the 1,000 year reign of Mashiyach. hasatan was bound for that 1,000 years, the tares will grow during this period, and when hasatan is loosed he and the tares will try and overthrow us one last time. They will destroyed and taken away from the face of the earth.

Shalom, and I hope your Shabbat was most blessed.

Eliyah Ben Yisrael
EBY

If Jesus suddenly and most astonishingly seized you away directly to Himself,
sparing you of all the horrors of the Wrath of God upon the evil unbelieving world,
would you be angry, unhappy and complaining
or thankful?

Can you just say nothing but "I would be thankful"?

I know you can't...

Thankful for His extreme mercy.

IN YOUR OPINION.

But take heed to yourselves, lest your hearts be weighed down with carousing, drunkenness, and cares of this life,
and that Day come on you unexpectedly.
For it will come as a snare on all those who dwell on the face of the whole earth.
Watch therefore, and pray always
that you may be counted worthy to escape
all these things that will come to pass,
and to stand before the Son of Man.

Luke 21:34-36


In My Father's house are many dwelling places; if it were not so, I would have told you; for I go to prepare a place for you.
If I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself, that where I am, there you may be also.

John 14:2,3


Come, my people, enter your chambers,
And shut your doors behind you;
Hide yourself, as it were, for a little moment,
Until the indignation is past.
For behold, the LORD comes out of His place
To punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity;
The earth will also disclose her blood,
And will no more cover her slain.

Isaiah 26:20:21


Seek the LORD, all you meek of the earth,
Who have upheld His justice.
Seek righteousness, seek humility.
It may be that you will be hidden
In the day of the LORD's anger.

Zephaniah 2:3


For in the time of trouble
He shall hide me in His pavilion;
In the secret place of His tabernacle
He shall hide me;
He shall set me high upon a rock.

Psalm 27:5


"Therefore you also be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect.
Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his master made ruler over his household, to give them food in due season?
Blessed is that servant whom his master, when he comes, will find so doing.
Assuredly, I say to you that he will make him ruler over all his goods.
But if that evil servant says in his heart, 'My master is delaying his coming,'
and begins to beat his fellow servants, and to eat and drink with the drunkards,
the master of that servant will come on a day when he is not looking for him and at an hour that he is not aware of,
and will cut him in two and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites. There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth."

Matthew 28:44-51


Because you have kept My command to persevere,
I also will keep you from the hour of trial which shall come upon the whole world,
to test those who dwell on the earth.

Revelation 3:10


But you, brethren, are not in darkness, so that this Day should overtake you as a thief.
You are all sons of light and sons of the day. We are not of the night nor of darkness.
Therefore let us not sleep, as others do, but let us watch and be sober.
For those who sleep, sleep at night, and those who get drunk are drunk at night.
But let us who are of the day be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love, and as a helmet the hope of salvation.
For God did not appoint us to wrath, but to obtain salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ

1 Thessalonians 5:4-9


I say then, have they stumbled that they should fall? Certainly not! But through their fall, to provoke them to jealousy, salvation has come to the Gentiles.
Now if their fall is riches for the world, and their failure riches for the Gentiles, how much more their fullness!
For I speak to you Gentiles; inasmuch as I am an apostle to the Gentiles, I magnify my ministry,
if by any means I may provoke to jealousy those who are my flesh and save some of them.
For if their being cast away is the reconciling of the world, what will their acceptance be but life from the dead?

Romans 11:11-15


For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery,
lest you should be wise in your own opinion,
that blindness in part has happened to Israel
until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in.

Romans 11:25


For it will come as a snare on all those who dwell on the face of the whole earth.
Watch therefore, and pray always that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass,
and to stand before the Son of Man.

Luke 21:35,36

How dare they... HOW DARE THEY

hope and believe that they might see and be with Jesus Christ

a few years before you supposedly hope and believe to be with Jesus Christ?

HOW DARE THEY?

Typical twisting of scripture to make the faulty pre trib rapture doctrine somehow fit.I can pretty much refute your wall of text with simple answers.

'Not appointed to wrath' means that we escape Gods judgement in Hades,also the bowl judgements that come at the end of the tribulation.

Pre tribbers try to falsely claim that the entire tribulation is God wrath.Not true,only the judgements that are poured out at the very end is Gods wrath.And yes the righteous will be protected and spared from them.
But that doesn't mean Christians won't be here during the rest of the tribulation.

Another pre tribber fallacy is pretending that there are two seperate events.A silent rapture,followed by the second coming 7 yrs later.Not true at all.
The resurrection of the saved dead,and the catching up of the righteous living clearly occurs at the end of the tribultion.Jesus makes this very clear with his commentary in Matthew 24

isnt it that souped up ford ranger?

I hope and watch and pray all the time every day

that Jesus Christ count my Faith in Him worthy

of being one of the few in all of history

that would be so blessed as to be given this greatest imaginable gift!


Do you?

Yes how dare you believe a feel good lie you've been taught to blindly accept all your life.
While at the same time claiming that the words of Christ mean everything to you.
Apparently you value the 'left behind' propaganda from your bible commentary and baptist preachers on sunday more then anything Christ actually said.

Nice hypocrisy there...

Do YOU hope and pray always that Jesus Christ Himself counts YOU worthy to escape these things that will soon come upon all the earth?

In your opinion.

RAPTURE COMING SOON

Yes well at least the words of Jesus back up his opinion.
Onnce again Matthew 24 fellas

Nope. No need to hope. If you know you know. Justified by faith and saved through Grace.