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When will first moon landing happen?

 
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No human has walked around on the Moon in our history. I won't rule out that one of the earlier civilizations may have, but not us. The real technical issues are overwhelming. Radiation being #1 on that long list. #2 being the insane difficulty of a manned retro-rocket descent. With NO landing pad, no ground based anything, and no air to help slow the vehicle down, or to be any help in steering.

Please all you fan boys, get out of your mind the false picture of Nasa doing this with that garbage can LEM. Going from 3000+mph to 0 in all 3 axis by a seat-of-pants human pilot.

#3 issue, no real spacesuits. As an actual space equipment engineer, I have known this for a long time. Interesting that this year 2022 Nasa admits they cannot do it. Do any of you really appreciate how impossible a fully functioning hard vacuum suit is? Surely not the costumes shown by Apollo actors.

Add to this the basic energy & consumables consumption problem. Bad enough to GET there. But returning? Carry every bit of fuel and supplies all the way to the moon? Please see how ridiculous that is. Any real mission would have pre-placed supplies. The very least would be something already on the lunar surface. More goodies in orbit.
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Excellent post
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06/27/2022 07:11 PM
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Re: When will first moon landing happen?
100 years from now?
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You sad piece of shit! We have been to the moon and beyond. In fact we have military on the moon right now.

Be a good little boy and continue to believe that shit.
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Re: When will first moon landing happen?
51 years ago.
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Not sure about Apollo 11 but Apollo 17 was legit.

I remember all of them.
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Yup you saw it om television so it must be true.
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Re: When will first moon landing happen?
Again i ask how and where did the astrnots go pee and poo??in thier suits?
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Re: When will first moon landing happen?
No human has walked around on the Moon in our history. I won't rule out that one of the earlier civilizations may have, but not us. The real technical issues are overwhelming. Radiation being #1 on that long list. #2 being the insane difficulty of a manned retro-rocket descent. With NO landing pad, no ground based anything, and no air to help slow the vehicle down, or to be any help in steering.

Please all you fan boys, get out of your mind the false picture of Nasa doing this with that garbage can LEM. Going from 3000+mph to 0 in all 3 axis by a seat-of-pants human pilot.

#3 issue, no real spacesuits. As an actual space equipment engineer, I have known this for a long time. Interesting that this year 2022 Nasa admits they cannot do it. Do any of you really appreciate how impossible a fully functioning hard vacuum suit is? Surely not the costumes shown by Apollo actors.

Add to this the basic energy & consumables consumption problem. Bad enough to GET there. But returning? Carry every bit of fuel and supplies all the way to the moon? Please see how ridiculous that is. Any real mission would have pre-placed supplies. The very least would be something already on the lunar surface. More goodies in orbit.
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Finally someone gets it.
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Re: When will first moon landing happen?
No human has walked around on the Moon in our history. I won't rule out that one of the earlier civilizations may have, but not us. The real technical issues are overwhelming. Radiation being #1 on that long list. #2 being the insane difficulty of a manned retro-rocket descent. With NO landing pad, no ground based anything, and no air to help slow the vehicle down, or to be any help in steering.

Please all you fan boys, get out of your mind the false picture of Nasa doing this with that garbage can LEM. Going from 3000+mph to 0 in all 3 axis by a seat-of-pants human pilot.

#3 issue, no real spacesuits. As an actual space equipment engineer, I have known this for a long time. Interesting that this year 2022 Nasa admits they cannot do it. Do any of you really appreciate how impossible a fully functioning hard vacuum suit is? Surely not the costumes shown by Apollo actors.

Add to this the basic energy & consumables consumption problem. Bad enough to GET there. But returning? Carry every bit of fuel and supplies all the way to the moon? Please see how ridiculous that is. Any real mission would have pre-placed supplies. The very least would be something already on the lunar surface. More goodies in orbit.
 Quoting: LasVegasBrad


My issue was moon gravity is 1/5 of Earth's but watch the dust they kick up in the walking and buggy vids accelerate at 1G.

You're right about the landing being almost impossible to pull off, and I think mating the lander back up with a capsule orbiting the moon would be impossible to do too.

Apollo was real and they orbitted the moon, but the landings were fake. The best lies need to have some truth in them.
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Agree that if ANYthing is true, getting one craft into Lunar orbit is possible. That avoids the impossible landing, take off, rendezvous, docking, and spacesuits. But where are the pics? Imagine what kind of real pic you could take coming back from behind the moon, with the blazing blue Earth rising over the near horizon. You would still be in shadow, so your camera would be capturing all the amazing starry backdrop. Where are all those pictures if ANY one ever there ?
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Re: When will first moon landing happen?
51 years ago.
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Re: When will first moon landing happen?
Agree that if ANYthing is true, getting one craft into Lunar orbit is possible. That avoids the impossible landing, take off, rendezvous, docking, and spacesuits. But where are the pics? Imagine what kind of real pic you could take coming back from behind the moon, with the blazing blue Earth rising over the near horizon. You would still be in shadow, so your camera would be capturing all the amazing starry backdrop. Where are all those pictures if ANY one ever there ?
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Literally all of this has been answered over and over and over. Please stop with this nonsense.
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06/28/2022 12:07 AM
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I'm not sure what to make of this. It's certainly another interesting angle on the nature of the moon and the system we find ourselves in.
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06/28/2022 12:16 AM
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Re: When will first moon landing happen?
No human has ever or
will never leave Earth!
Enjoying life.
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Re: When will first moon landing happen?
Never
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This! The moon is plasma. We never went, and NASA is a money laundering con job.Idol1
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Re: When will first moon landing happen?
Why all space missions are fake

Voyager is fake. How can 23 watts transmitter send picture so far away? Why the farther away the clear pictures? Sunlight is so weak how to charge battery?

What instrument in on board measure speed and direction? How it works?

There is no known method and instrument to measure spacecraft sped in vacuum space. There are instruments to do this and I already know this but I'm just here to spam anyway.

If ISS is moving around earth at 17000 miles per hour, it must be accelerated from zero to 17000 miles per hour first. How can ISS measure its speed in friction less vacuum space? What kind of rocket fuel can accelerate rockets to such high speed?

The solar system according to science is five billion years old. The sun and nine planets and their moons have never cached any matter into stable orbit. How can earth cached ISS, star link and many satellites?
To keep in orbit, a satellite must has precise speed and direction. If the speed is higher then the satellite will escape away from earth and never come back. If the speed is lower then the satellite will fall to earth.

Scientists have no method or instrument to measure precise speed in vacuum space. All space missions are scams. Present technology simply cannot send spacecraft into orbit is a fact.

NASA said they must fire rocket on ISS once a while to boost ISS to higher orbit. How about the rest 5000 LEO satellites? How they boost orbits?

Astronauts say space is cold. In the sunlight is very hot and in the shadow in very cold. It is a lie. They never been space.

Space contains no matter/mass. Has no temperature. Heat must coexisting with carrier/matter.

If heat can radiate into vacuum space earth will be freeze in the dark side. We don’t need air conditioner just install a vacuum container in the house.
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Re: When will first moon landing happen?
Probably never. Humans as we know them will be extinct. There will be the NWO ruling class, and the trans-humanized, mind and body controlled slaves.
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Re: When will first moon landing happen?
I actually know this stuff. The big expensive GEO birds have all sorts of goodies to keep them in the exact orbit. This is called "Station Keeping". Unlike LEO lower orbit satellites, the big ones all lie in the ONE orbit. There is a limit, even in the gigantic space above us for how many birds can sit there without bothering each other.

1st, the solar panels are literally wings. As the sun beats on them it provides some small, but real thrust. The flight controller angles them to alter the exact thrust angle. This angle can change as the orbit approaches the sun, or recedes. This can help reduce the total rocket fuel needed.

2nd, there are incredible gyros on board spinning at insane speeds in the pure vacuum. The gyros keep the exact alignment steady from the torque coming from the sun's thrust on the panels, and even some tiny effect from our magnetic field.

And yes, there are rocket motors on board. Small hypergolic dual fuel types that need no ignitor. The latest advance is Xenon ion thrusters. I worked on these. They still need fuel, just less of it. Or for the same weight, more lifetime.

As for thermal regulation; that is not such a big deal. At the Earth's distance from the sun, the equilibrium temp is near 10C. The craft is covered with reflective foil to reduce solar flux heating. The equipment has heat pipes to suck the operating heat out the "back". In the back is an OSR that points to deep space and radiates the heat out.

Every component that dissipates any power at all must have a conductive path to the OSR.
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Re: When will first moon landing happen?
try 70 years ago

Yes, an inconvenient truth is inconvenient.
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