The Breakfast of GLP Champions: Musings of an Old-timer

Dr Fanuci is the typical Bureaucrat doctor. Think of him like a "Hospital administrator" They always want to study Everything and anything to death. They are 110% risk adverse and if the building he was in was lit on fire? He would prefer to study the adverse effect of water being introduced into the building rather than calling the fire dept to actually put out the fire. It's how they become wired after being in bureaucracy matrix for so long. You could easily see it when he said shit like shutting the economy down and having everyone stay in their houses for however long it took would be "Inconvenient"

Inconvenient? The massive amount of damage to our economy for effectively being shut down for even as long as it has been devastating. There are sectors that will take years to recover and even then, some never will. He just has no sense of urgency when it comes to that and it's easy enough to see. Oh can we use hydrocloriquine? Well, that's prescribed for something else, for decades, so we need to study it to see if it'll be ok for this, might take some months.

His type are ALL like this, they could never make a command decision beyond sharpening a pencil without a panel to study it first. We saw the same feckless lack of command and or control in Obama. They couldn't do ANYTHING in less than months without a bunch of academics studying it first.

Fanuci, and yes I spell it that way, is out of his academic element on this one, especially with Trump who isn't a Bureaucrat. If he seems off, that is why. He also isn't psychic or some great predictor, some new pandemic or epidemic is/was inevitable because they always happen pretty regularly, this just happens to be a very bad one. In fact I'll make a prediction right now, we will have another outbreak of asspox, cordoba virus, batshitulosis or some new "disease" by the time Trump's second term is over. Hopefully we'll be better prepared.

If anyone doubts that this particular virus is very real or doubts the potential severity and contagiousness of it, then read this article, this one ain't yo momma's Coronavirus.

IMO this article lays out pretty well what very likely may have happened, which I am convinced of, for whatever that is worth.

I'm beginning to hear a few squeaks from some of the media asking about a scenario like this as to where this SARS-Cov-2 might have come from and why it is so amazingly effective at spreading.

Easy enough to read and well worth it IMO.

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I can tell you pretty easily, call it a prediction if you want to. You can even come back and check my accuracy!

We'll have about 30,000 dead Americans and
Right around 750,00 infected, if we're lucky.

The world, including the USA, will about have about 5,000,000 infected and right about 200,000 dead.

All within the span of a few weeks.
It could easily be worse, hopefully it will be better.

What do you think our economic condition will be at that time?

The next two weeks? A lot more reports of cases and deaths, unfortunately. I think they’re probably going to have to lengthen the quarantine, at the end of two weeks. People are going to start getting hungry. Some people are going to start showing signs of beginning to crack. Until this threat is over and society reopens, it’s gonna continue to look more and more grim. Beef up the security in your home. Start talking to God. Whatever shit that’s going down-whether it be virus or otherwise-is happening soon.

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200,000 dead in the whole world.....
The deaths caused by the worldwide lockdown will be far greater than that. This whole thing does not compute.

Indeed

In Short? Fucked.
Unemployment is going to be high, real high.
Entire sectors will be effectively dead for a year at least, some forever.
NOBODY is going to be spending "disposable income", because in everyone's mind, there won't be anymore income that is disposable, or at least a lot less, for quite awhile.
The economy is going to change, hopefully some of it for the better, but a lot won't be, People's habits are going to change, things we used to do without thinking much about it, we just aren't going to do anymore because it just plain won't be worth it.
GDP is going to contract, a lot, maybe more than we've ever seen.
Hopefully we don't see the worst, runaway inflation, markets crash even worse than they have, major amount of bankruptcies, some banks fail, all those things are the worst case and they are not impossible, but I hope less than likely.

It wouldn't take much more as far as anything else going real bad wrong for a whole lot of other things to go wrong and then it just cascades.

It's going to take a while to bounce back IMO from this shit show.

We're going to live in a Before virus BV and After Virus AV world. Just think of a few businesses that will degraded for years or forever: The Cruise and hotel industry, how many people are going to take that pleasure trip after this? even if half go back? it's still fucked. Casinos, movie theaters, bars and restaurants, shopping malls, all those high traffic businesses, some were hurting already, they're dust now, some were doing fairly well, but they'll still take a hit.

The real problem with this whole thing is that viruses as whole are NEVER going away, now we all got a wakeup call and a big dose of virus in your face. This one? It's going to take a while to get rid of it, getting rid of it to a point where it doesn't really matter, it's going to take well over a year and that is in full attack balls out virus assault mode.

Right now we have about 1/1000th of the total US population infected with this thing.
Some people don't give a shit if they get it, but how many? Not half the country, probably not even 10%, so most people by FAR do NOT want to get it or even fuck with it.

So all those people are not going to be doing anything that fucks around and drastically increases their chances of catching it and that is a whole lot of domestic spending that just isn't going to be happening anytime soon.

All that is intertwined through our total overall economy. Everything contracts and causes more to contract. It doesn't matter who tells people that all is well, people are going to say, fuck this thing or fuck that thing, not worth it. Sure some money will gravitate from one new thing to another as people adapt, but it'll never be business as usual BV again.

I have been in contact with NoDoom. I used to send him fancy teas at his place in England and communicated with him when he was in the hospital until about the time he passed away.
He was controversial but he was a nice person. Never got to meet him in the real life, sadly.

Good thread here. 5 stars for sure.

I believe we will implement a work schedule to allow periodic working until 2034. It will be somewhat determined by the sector of employment. Identification work cards for everyone, citizen or not. One sector, two sector, three sector (rare)

One week on two weeks off: food service, all transportation (airlines, taxis, busses) staff
Two weeks on two weeks off: retail, dealerships, hospital support
One day on, 3 days off: concert venues, movie theaters, etc

You get the jest.

Ya know Wolf, I never really liked doom.

I was just "watchin'

Pulse of the world whispers through here.

Sometimes screams, sometimes speaks through people who don't even know what they are talking about.

Right now - in this moment. There is hope floating all around. It is quite sparkly and beautiful.

I think Hope's R/O is like 99

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After Easter this will stop almost as quickly as it started. daily life will attempt to return to normal and the virus will be absorbed into the other flus.

Certainly possible. But, it's a bit more dire than most of us are willing to anticipate as probable right now.

Your statement about it being a historical demarcation is powerful, indeed.

We're going to live in a Before virus BV and After Virus AV world.

Thanks Concorde Warrior F-BVFA.

I never met NB in the analog world either. But, we emailed regularly for a long time. He loved GLP and inspired me to be more active.

I was down for a few months due chiefly to my own medical challenges. It was during that time that he passed. I wish that I could have been with him more in those latter days.

Well ... that's a very specific forecast.

My brother-in-law is with TSA. Right now, most of his staff works 2 days a week for full pay.

I don't have an affinity for doom either. But, I do like to consider the less favorable outcomes for the near future in order to strategize about how to survive and thrive.

For example, back in early January, I converted one of my hotels to extended stays which would feasibly retain a steady revenue stream in case the worst case scenario might come into fruition. Now, regular guests and new check-ins have been prohibited by law since the last week of March. That business could have been devastated; but, instead it's just weakened. In hindsight though, if I'd had the full courage of my convictions, I'd have done far more to prepare.

Incidentally, that's what inspired me to post this thread. I've been jesting to folks for years that I often eat a scrumptious plate of savory doom for breakfast and wash it down with refined fear ... because it makes me stronger.

I first heard of the "novel coronavirus" in late December. Other worldwide viruses had originated in China (Asian flu - 1957, Hong Kong flu - 1968, SARS coronavirus - 2002). It seemed highly probable that coming out of the Wuhan travel hub, the "novel coronavirus" (now labeled SARS-CoV-2) might extend globally rather quickly.

It's also worth noting that in mid October, Johns Hopkins in collaboration with the World Economic Forum and the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation held a "pandemic tabletop exercise" to discuss a fictional coronavirus outbreak and how it would impact healthcare, economies, and society. (Interestingly, the first case of the virus was recently determined to have been detected exactly 30 days after that conference.)

At the time, several national economies were experiencing difficulties while concurrently the US economy was enjoying an almost unprecedented boom. This seemed to me to be an unusual confluence of opportunities for nefarious entities to engage themselves in plots and subplots to manipulate outcomes to their self-serving benefit.

Moreover, on Saturday, January 4th, I held a meeting with about 30 friends and family in order to help prepare them for what I expected to unfold over the next several weeks regarding health (D3, vitamin C, turmeric, zinc, and increased hand washing) and finances (cash reserves, procuring food and supplies, etc.). Today, having known me for years, some of them oddly insist that I'm actually clairvoyant.

But, as I assure them, it was simply analysis of available data in order to extrapolate conditional permutations to deduce probable outcome forecasting. There are many others who are far better than me at such postulative endeavors.

However, for the upcoming months, it seems to me that the probability matrix requires a number of variables which are not available yet. But, maybe I'm just allowing optimistic resolve to taint the data interpretations.

Right now, I'm strongly averse to accepting how bad this could get. Surely, someone in high authority will soon take action to de-escalate these deleterious hydra-headed trajectories.

Last Edited by Wolf 1776 on 04/08/2020 01:02 AM

Nice!!

I'd like to accept your diehard optimism; but, I have too many doubts right now.

A Few Questions For Your Consideration


GENERAL

What do you think the next few weeks have in store for us?

How long do you think it will be before we get back to "normal"? Will we get back to "normal"?

Will primary and general election voting be conducted in a fair and verifiable manner, if the lockdowns persist that long?

How do we transition effectively out of these nationwide lockdowns?



ECONOMIC

What do you think will happen as a result many of America's recently unemployed receiving more funds in unemployment insurance to stay at home than they made while producing and/or serving?

Will they want to return to work for less money?

Will prices in the few open stores increase sharply?

Will injecting 2.2+ trillion into the economy along with myriad crushing closures and the ensuing multifarious repercussions eventually lead to hyper-inflation?



HEALTHCARE

Why isn't there a national concerted effort to use hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin? Why wait a full year for FDA approval of a vaccine when we can heal 90+% of the infected right now?

Why are so many hospitals nearly empty? Is the hospital business model really primarily just elective procedures? Why is ANYONE in the healthcare fields being furloughed?

Why are so many deaths with comorbidities (cancer, heart disease, etc.) only publicized and used for statistical data as caused by Covid-19?

Why aren't the mainstream media and government healthcare officials vigorously alerting the public to strengthen their immune systems with D3, vitamin C, turmeric, and zinc?



STRANGENESS

Why are most beaches closed while public walkways are still open?

Massive civil unrest protests began in Hong Kong in March 2019. By July, similar large protests began in mainland China in Wuhan. Is it just coincidence that this virus began there?

The Wuhan Institute of Virology has long been strongly suspected to be a center for bio-weapons research and development. Is it just coincidence that this virus began near there?

On October 18, Johns Hopkins in collaboration with the World Economic Forum and the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation held a "pandemic tabletop exercise" to discuss a fictional coronavirus outbreak and how it would impact healthcare, economies, and society. The first case of the virus was recently determined to have been detected on November 17th, exactly 30 days later. Is this just a coincidence?

Since political campaign rallies have ended due to health concerns, will anyone remember in November that Biden consistently struggled get a few hundred attendants while Trump's rallies readily drew in many thousands?

Why are many convicted criminals being released early from jails and prisons? Isn't the likely increase in crime to our communities a higher risk to the general public than their own health risks in a highly controlled incarceration environment? Who is monitoring to determine if any violent recidivists are released early under these "compassionate" considerations.

What precautions are being taken by restaurants to ensure that their kitchen staff practices social distancing in confined spaces? Who is making certain that no infected staff are preparing food? Who is monitoring these necessary health standards?

This season CDC estimates that, as of mid-March, between 29,000 and 59,000 have died due to influenza illnesses. It's about the same every year. Why haven't we ever implemented national lockdowns for that seasonal scourge?

Who benefits from the sundry ramifications of our government's actions and reactions regarding this pandemic? China? Bill Gates? Democrats? Republicans? America? Others?



OTHER QUESTIONS

Feel free to add your own for more extensive discussion.

Last Edited by Wolf 1776 on 04/08/2020 01:06 AM

Wonderfully worded and insightful op

Any thoughts regarding the questions posed above?

Well I got the meaning of the thread wrong I think.

I wakeup brewed coffee and GLP is my (daily insite) then veggie on toast on the run.

Sorry OP Champions I miss read Champions as in mushrooms you eat for breakie..

Well those 2 words I got red paragraph. Hence the ().

Coffee and toast is good.

I had one of my recipes for breakfast a couple of days ago. Two slices of french toast made into a sandwich with melted cheese and crispy bacon. Friends and family like it; I call it a Wolf Burger.

Last Edited by Wolf 1776 on 04/08/2020 02:38 AM

The entire situation is just plain weird. We know the virus is dangerous - it's hitting real close to home for me, we know a nurse who died 4 days after showing symptoms. We know the death rate in some areas is high, some low. We know that some hospitals are full up and some are dead empty. We know that retired nurses and doctors are coming back and there are layoffs.

If we were to suppose that the clusters where the crowded hospitals are due to people coming together where they shouldn't be, that would be a handy explanation for a lot of it.

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