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It only takes .5 ppms of nitrogen dioxide in the air to increase viral uptake into cells......

 
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It only takes .5 ppms of nitrogen dioxide in the air to increase viral uptake into cells......
take 10 minutes and watch this

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Re: It only takes .5 ppms of nitrogen dioxide in the air to increase viral uptake into cells......
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Re: It only takes .5 ppms of nitrogen dioxide in the air to increase viral uptake into cells......
anyway, the point is that nitrogen dioxide directly weakens and kills the type II epithelial cells that line your alveoli

These are the exact same cells SARS-Cov2 attacks because they express ACE2 on their surfaces

So, the common pollutant we are all breathing weakens you to infection
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Saved for later. Thanks!
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Re: It only takes .5 ppms of nitrogen dioxide in the air to increase viral uptake into cells......
In China, tons of people die every year from lower respiratory infections

This is directly facilitated by high levels of NO2

We don't hear this being discussed in the media, but you can clearly see in the video, the air quality in those areas suffering from high infection rates is absolutely horrible
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thanks for pinning, this really needs to be discussed
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Re: It only takes .5 ppms of nitrogen dioxide in the air to increase viral uptake into cells......
I would post some links to published papers on the effects of NO2 on epithelial cells, but can't risk triggering the B hammer

If you're interested, just ask and i'll post some titles you can google to read
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Re: It only takes .5 ppms of nitrogen dioxide in the air to increase viral uptake into cells......
So car polution caused Wuhan to infect itself with CoronaV?
Cars are the main source of NO2.
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Re: It only takes .5 ppms of nitrogen dioxide in the air to increase viral uptake into cells......
So car polution caused Wuhan to infect itself with CoronaV?
Cars are the main source of NO2.
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no, where did I say that ?
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Re: It only takes .5 ppms of nitrogen dioxide in the air to increase viral uptake into cells......
What is the solution ? Move to low pop densities mountain , ocean shore?
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Re: It only takes .5 ppms of nitrogen dioxide in the air to increase viral uptake into cells......
What about N2O? Don't take away my HIPPY CRACK man. I betcha it cures the corona. I've seen people fall over they're so healthy!
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Re: It only takes .5 ppms of nitrogen dioxide in the air to increase viral uptake into cells......
Nitrogen dioxide is part of a group of gaseous air pollutants produced as a result of road traffic and other fossil fuel combustion processes. Its presence in air contributes to the formation and modification of other air pollutants, such as ozone and particulate matter, and to acid rain
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Re: It only takes .5 ppms of nitrogen dioxide in the air to increase viral uptake into cells......
What is the solution ? Move to low pop densities mountain , ocean shore?
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clean air is the solution, ultimately. Our leaders pretty much ignore the fact that air quality directly influences rates of many diseases cough easingcoalplantrestrictions cough

...idk, modern medicine still seems to treat the symptom of disease and not the actual cause or facilitator

Why directly address the cause of a viral outbreak when you can smooth things over with vaccines and treatments ?

My mom was a virologist, she always used to tell me this, and I really understand now that I am older
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Re: It only takes .5 ppms of nitrogen dioxide in the air to increase viral uptake into cells......
first,...nitrogen dioxide is actually produced naturally in amounts that exceed that which is produced by humans

They estimate between 20 and 90 million tons of nitrogen oxides on Earth each year are produced by volcanoes, oceans, biological decay, and lightning strikes

Human activities add another roughly 24 million tons of nitrogen oxides to our atmosphere every year

So we've evolved to tolerate certain levels, but exceeding what our bodies are used to handling opens us up to infections
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Re: It only takes .5 ppms of nitrogen dioxide in the air to increase viral uptake into cells......
That explains the WILDFIRES IN BRAZIL, CALIFORNIA AND AUSTRALIA just before the outbreak.
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04/01/2020 01:24 PM
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take 10 minutes and watch this


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Fits

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Re: It only takes .5 ppms of nitrogen dioxide in the air to increase viral uptake into cells......
I should also point out the role our endocannabinoid system plays in mediating infections

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

The cannabinoids our bodies naturally manufacture are neurotransmitters, and their role in mediating infection is that they suppress the creation of pro-inflammatory cytokines

The cytokines are the molecules that are toxic to cells ( They kill them ) and their role is to kill the infected cells to prevent the virus from replicating

What happens during infection is that you have a massive build up of toxic cytokine molecules that cause extensive damage in the area ( This is why severe SARS-Cov2 patients get permanent scars in the lung tissues )

This damage further weakens surrounding cells, and also interferes with the immune response, locally, so what ultimately happens is that the infection speeds up

However,....when you suppress the natural cytokine response, you actually interfere with the infection, indirectly

( There's tons of published work online about this, just look up " cannabinoids, immune system " )
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Re: It only takes .5 ppms of nitrogen dioxide in the air to increase viral uptake into cells......
Is that what’s in chemtrail spraying?
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Re: It only takes .5 ppms of nitrogen dioxide in the air to increase viral uptake into cells......
What is the solution ? Move to low pop densities mountain , ocean shore?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78716274


clean air is the solution, ultimately. Our leaders pretty much ignore the fact that air quality directly influences rates of many diseases cough easingcoalplantrestrictions cough

...idk, modern medicine still seems to treat the symptom of disease and not the actual cause or facilitator

Why directly address the cause of a viral outbreak when you can smooth things over with vaccines and treatments ?

My mom was a virologist, she always used to tell me this, and I really understand now that I am older
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The US has cleaner air than China or India. Much cleaner. Back in the 70's and 80's LA looked like China, smog everywhere, hazard ratings given out every day. The US has really cleaned up since then so I think you better look for another reason. This ain't it.
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Re: It only takes .5 ppms of nitrogen dioxide in the air to increase viral uptake into cells......
What is the solution ? Move to low pop densities mountain , ocean shore?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78716274


clean air is the solution, ultimately. Our leaders pretty much ignore the fact that air quality directly influences rates of many diseases cough easingcoalplantrestrictions cough

...idk, modern medicine still seems to treat the symptom of disease and not the actual cause or facilitator

Why directly address the cause of a viral outbreak when you can smooth things over with vaccines and treatments ?

My mom was a virologist, she always used to tell me this, and I really understand now that I am older
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78017652


The US has cleaner air than China or India. Much cleaner. Back in the 70's and 80's LA looked like China, smog everywhere, hazard ratings given out every day. The US has really cleaned up since then so I think you better look for another reason. This ain't it.
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but I specifically state in the video it's not a cause, but an intermediary, so not even sure what it is you're responding to
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Re: It only takes .5 ppms of nitrogen dioxide in the air to increase viral uptake into cells......
etiolic cause =/= etioligic intermediary

that's clearly stated in the video ( people always try to explain things to me that I already explain in the video, which just lets me know they didn't actually watch it, or they wouldn't waste the time telling me something I already explained )

NO2 facilitates infections, it doesn't cause them ffs
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Re: It only takes .5 ppms of nitrogen dioxide in the air to increase viral uptake into cells......
I like your work (a bit less your presentation as I think is not that effective) but I see a stack of casualties and aggravation in wich pollution is just one of many.

also the correlation between infections and population concentration and pollution and EMF etc makes comparison between maps a weak point.
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Re: It only takes .5 ppms of nitrogen dioxide in the air to increase viral uptake into cells......
if the NO2 in the air that we breathe reacts with the water in our lungs to produce nitrogen acids which go on to attack the lung tissue, perhaps an immediate counter to this would be to alkalize the body by supplementing with bicarb soda ?
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Re: It only takes .5 ppms of nitrogen dioxide in the air to increase viral uptake into cells......
I like your work (a bit less your presentation as I think is not that effective) but I see a stack of casualties and aggravation in wich pollution is just one of many.

also the correlation between infections and population concentration and pollution and EMF etc makes comparison between maps a weak point.
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sure, the chemist I work with and I are discussing doing videos covering things like ozone, sulfur dioxides, etc

probably going to take a back burner to the next video on the almost 2500 different serotypes of SARS-Cov 2 and the difficulty this presents for vaccine development

EMF, not going there, I'm aware of the issues, naturally, but if we want to be realistic there are an infinite number of variables that I could discuss

Trying to avoid being pedantic, if you know what I'm saying
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Re: It only takes .5 ppms of nitrogen dioxide in the air to increase viral uptake into cells......
if the NO2 in the air that we breathe reacts with the water in our lungs to produce nitrogen acids which go on to attack the lung tissue, perhaps an immediate counter to this would be to alkalize the body by supplementing with bicarb soda ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78703206


good question

I know that for something like Influenza virus, the infection alters ion channel function of airway and alveolar cells, so taking bicarbonate ions can disrupt the pH gradient across bacterial membranes and affect the potency of viral membrane fusion as well as increasing effectiveness of antibiotics

Influenza requires a low pH to achieve membrane fusion with a cell, so altering pH can inhibit the ability of the virus to break into cells

But....to my knowledge, SARS-Cov2 is a pH independent virus, meaning it can undergo protease cleavage of cell membranes under widely varying pH conditions

( Viruses are classed broadly in 2 groups as far as pH - 1 requires specific pH to break into cells, the 2nd type doesn't )
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Re: It only takes .5 ppms of nitrogen dioxide in the air to increase viral uptake into cells......
Here's the best map I could find showing concentrations in the US. Living in eastern South Dakota I guess I'm in one of the "better" areas.

[link to www.nasa.gov (secure)]
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Thanks OP, interesting work.
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More NO2 bullshit.

People just reaching for anything these days.
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Re: It only takes .5 ppms of nitrogen dioxide in the air to increase viral uptake into cells......
What is the solution ? Move to low pop densities mountain , ocean shore?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78716274


clean air is the solution, ultimately. Our leaders pretty much ignore the fact that air quality directly influences rates of many diseases cough easingcoalplantrestrictions cough

...idk, modern medicine still seems to treat the symptom of disease and not the actual cause or facilitator

Why directly address the cause of a viral outbreak when you can smooth things over with vaccines and treatments ?


My mom was a virologist, she always used to tell me this, and I really understand now that I am older
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Re: It only takes .5 ppms of nitrogen dioxide in the air to increase viral uptake into cells......
What is the solution ? Move to low pop densities mountain , ocean shore?
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clean air is the solution, ultimately. Our leaders pretty much ignore the fact that air quality directly influences rates of many diseases cough easingcoalplantrestrictions cough

...idk, modern medicine still seems to treat the symptom of disease and not the actual cause or facilitator

Why directly address the cause of a viral outbreak when you can smooth things over with vaccines and treatments ?

My mom was a virologist, she always used to tell me this, and I really understand now that I am older
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78017652


The US has cleaner air than China or India. Much cleaner. Back in the 70's and 80's LA looked like China, smog everywhere, hazard ratings given out every day. The US has really cleaned up since then so I think you better look for another reason. This ain't it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78537041


Not in Utah, the air is this sick orange, yellow, green color. Looks like LA in the 80's...
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Re: It only takes .5 ppms of nitrogen dioxide in the air to increase viral uptake into cells......
You need similarly low amount of ClO2 to kill them buggers, even after intake, when they already party on your mucus membranes.

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The oxidising properties and the radical nature of Chlorine Dioxide make it an excellent virucidal and bactericidal agent in a large pH range.
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Data are available for chlorine dioxide that support manufacturers’ bactericidal, fungicidal, sporicidal, tuberculocidal, and virucidal label claims.
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Chlorine dioxide is registered with EPA (Registration No. 74986-1), and is considered an excellent bactericide, fungicide and antimicrobial agent. It has passed the EPA’s stringent DIS/TISS guidelines for use as a disinfectant and as a food-contact surface sanitizer.
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Chlorine Dioxide Is a Size-Selective Antimicrobial Agent





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