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If it comes to it, do you want to be placed on a ventilator?

 
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State: Six additional covid-19 cases reported in Westmoreland County
The state reported 643 new cases of covid-19. A total of 3,394 residents had tested positive as of noon Sunday.
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Re: If it comes to it, do you want to be placed on a ventilator?
Just a ventilator or an invasive ventilator (Intubation)? Big difference.
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I didn’t even know there was a difference. I meant the intubation kind.
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State: Six additional covid-19 cases reported in Westmoreland County
The state reported 643 new cases of covid-19. A total of 3,394 residents had tested positive as of noon Sunday.
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Bad news. I know I would not want a broken ventilator for sure.
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Re: If it comes to it, do you want to be placed on a ventilator?
fuck no

like 80% of the people do not come off it
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I think it's about 85% that don't make it. Your chances are really slim. Like getting the "test", I'm not sure why getting ventilators is so freaking important. Save the money and get them a coughin err coffin instead.
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Re: If it comes to it, do you want to be placed on a ventilator?
Years ago I was intubated for pneumonia. However, I didn't remember why I was in the hospital or what the heck was sticking down my throat when the woke me. It was a thirty day induced coma. As soon as they woke me, I fought hard and pulled it out, causing me further misery by getting a blood clot in my chest. They should have removed it before waking me. The nurses had the gall to excoriate me for pulling it out. I'd do it again with clear instructions in order to live though.
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You’ll definitely want to pull it out if you wake up and find yourself intubated. It isn’t a natural thing to experience. But it does save lives. I don’t get why nurses get mad at patients who do this. The nurses would do the same thing if they were intubated. There is even a saying that nurses make the worst patients.
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By the time you need a ventilator you're already in bad shape.
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Re: If it comes to it, do you want to be placed on a ventilator?
Just a ventilator or an invasive ventilator (Intubation)? Big difference.
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What kinds of ventilator doesn’t involve intubation?
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Re: If it comes to it, do you want to be placed on a ventilator?
Just wondering what others thoughts are.

Have you shared your wishes with a loved one or doctor?
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If you break a leg or have an appendix rupture you want to be taken to a hospital? (Or just take a drink of apple cider vinegar?)
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Yeah but you want to put them on a ventilator for a broken leg or a ruptured appendix. my question is "why would you want to do that?"

What type of scam are you pulling, Wookie666?

You countenance is a give away that these "breathing devices" are some type of torture device.
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Re: If it comes to it, do you want to be placed on a ventilator?
Just wondering what others thoughts are.

Have you shared your wishes with a loved one or doctor?
 Quoting: Freckle Face


If you break a leg or have an appendix rupture you want to be taken to a hospital? (Or just take a drink of apple cider vinegar?)
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Yeah but you want to put them on a ventilator for a broken leg or a ruptured appendix. my question is "why would you want to do that?"

What type of scam are you pulling, Wookie666?

You countenance is a give away that these "breathing devices" are some type of torture device.
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Re: If it comes to it, do you want to be placed on a ventilator?
Going to share what has worked for me:

I mean its basically akin to saying sort of the cure.

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Re: If it comes to it, do you want to be placed on a ventilator?
personally, no. If it's gotten that bad, I figure my lungs will be scarred.. would rather just pass naturally at that point. We all die sooner or later. Being short of breath all the time would not be fun. Pneumonia is an old disease and in its latter stages you're in a coma.. peaceful at that point.

I'm older, but if you're young, just do your best to use natural means to beef up your defenses that allows body to keep things from going severe..
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Absolutely, yes. Several years ago I developed serious complications after an organ transplant, including pneumonia. A ventilator helped me turn the whole thing around. It not only helps you breathe and supplies oxygen, but takes a huge stress off the rest of your body (including your heart) to allow you to heal on your own. I had it for about a week until I could breathe adequately on my own. Saved my life.
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Re: If it comes to it, do you want to be placed on a ventilator?
Years ago I was intubated for pneumonia. However, I didn't remember why I was in the hospital or what the heck was sticking down my throat when the woke me. It was a thirty day induced coma. As soon as they woke me, I fought hard and pulled it out, causing me further misery by getting a blood clot in my chest. They should have removed it before waking me. The nurses had the gall to excoriate me for pulling it out. I'd do it again with clear instructions in order to live though.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77846190


You’ll definitely want to pull it out if you wake up and find yourself intubated. It isn’t a natural thing to experience. But it does save lives. I don’t get why nurses get mad at patients who do this. The nurses would do the same thing if they were intubated. There is even a saying that nurses make the worst patients.
 Quoting: Corporal Punishment


There is another give away that it is some type of torture. Her attitude is a give away.
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Re: If it comes to it, do you want to be placed on a ventilator?
fuck no

like 80% of the people do not come off it
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^

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I think it's about 85% that don't make it. Your chances are really slim. Like getting the "test", I'm not sure why getting ventilators is so freaking important. Save the money and get them a coughin err coffin instead.
 Quoting: Pilgrim001


This 85% figure is something that should be mentioned more in the news. Maybe most folks know it already but I didn’t know it. I guess I had just thought that a ventilator meant it saved your life and everything would be eventually be okay in a few weeks. Thanks for adding to the conversation.
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Years ago I was intubated for pneumonia. However, I didn't remember why I was in the hospital or what the heck was sticking down my throat when the woke me. It was a thirty day induced coma. As soon as they woke me, I fought hard and pulled it out, causing me further misery by getting a blood clot in my chest. They should have removed it before waking me. The nurses had the gall to excoriate me for pulling it out. I'd do it again with clear instructions in order to live though.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77846190


You’ll definitely want to pull it out if you wake up and find yourself intubated. It isn’t a natural thing to experience. But it does save lives. I don’t get why nurses get mad at patients who do this. The nurses would do the same thing if they were intubated. There is even a saying that nurses make the worst patients.
 Quoting: Corporal Punishment


That would be a nightmare to be awake and not breathing on your own. Ugh. Panic situation in the mind.
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Are bong's optional ???
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Re: If it comes to it, do you want to be placed on a ventilator?
Just wondering what others thoughts are.

Have you shared your wishes with a loved one or doctor?
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Depends on the ventilator. Intubation no. Just the oxygen works for most of the bad pneumonia cases.
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Re: If it comes to it, do you want to be placed on a ventilator?
Going to share what has worked for me:

I mean its basically akin to saying sort of the cure.

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Thank you! I read it.
hf
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Re: If it comes to it, do you want to be placed on a ventilator?
personally, no. If it's gotten that bad, I figure my lungs will be scarred.. would rather just pass naturally at that point. We all die sooner or later. Being short of breath all the time would not be fun. Pneumonia is an old disease and in its latter stages you're in a coma.. peaceful at that point.

I'm older, but if you're young, just do your best to use natural means to beef up your defenses that allows body to keep things from going severe..
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I sure hope it passes over your house and you and your family stay safe. Thanks for your thoughts.

hf
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Re: If it comes to it, do you want to be placed on a ventilator?
Absolutely, yes. Several years ago I developed serious complications after an organ transplant, including pneumonia. A ventilator helped me turn the whole thing around. It not only helps you breathe and supplies oxygen, but takes a huge stress off the rest of your body (including your heart) to allow you to heal on your own. I had it for about a week until I could breathe adequately on my own. Saved my life.
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Wow. A beautiful, healing story. I’m so glad your life was was saved.
hf
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Just wondering what others thoughts are.

Have you shared your wishes with a loved one or doctor?
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Better than dying
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Re: If it comes to it, do you want to be placed on a ventilator?
Just wondering what others thoughts are.

Have you shared your wishes with a loved one or doctor?
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Depends on the ventilator. Intubation no. Just the oxygen works for most of the bad pneumonia cases.
 Quoting: dmk


I’m all for good oxygen. Nice.
hf
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I've prepared myself for death, so no.

If it comes to that let me go to sleep forever, better than being hooked up to a machine for the rest of my life.
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Are bong's optional ???
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lol. Maybe is some states. Probably not in the hospital ICU though.
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Re: If it comes to it, do you want to be placed on a ventilator?
Most recover with typical flu treatments.Someone in
my town had it said he had a mild cough/body aches.
95% tested DO NOT HAVE CORONA.So many dying from
regular flu and is being manipulated for another
reason.Most have no need of ventilator.
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Just wondering what others thoughts are.

Have you shared your wishes with a loved one or doctor?
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Better than dying
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I’ve seen some bad things, some worse than death. Life is hard.
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I've prepared myself for death, so no.

If it comes to that let me go to sleep forever, better than being hooked up to a machine for the rest of my life.
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I hope you stay safe and well.
hf
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Re: If it comes to it, do you want to be placed on a ventilator?
Most recover with typical flu treatments.Someone in
my town had it said he had a mild cough/body aches.
95% tested DO NOT HAVE CORONA.So many dying from
regular flu and is being manipulated for another
reason.Most have no need of ventilator.
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I’m glad to hear.
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Re: If it comes to it, do you want to be placed on a ventilator?
Hell no. I want to be awake and aware when I die so I don't get lost in the afterworld.
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Re: If it comes to it, do you want to be placed on a ventilator?
The ventilator to me is not the issue. It is the permanent damage it does to your lungs. It could be like having COPD, constantly out of breath. With no quality of life, if it came to it, I say give me the morphine on the way out.
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Me too.

Was intubated in 2018 for a three-hour surgery. Took weeks to fully recover. I’m 60 years old. Never again. Just give me a triple scoop of morphine.





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