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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72430464 United States 03/22/2020 12:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Important *** Medical Expert gives Clear Cut Information from Wisconsin on What is Really Happening . Quoting: wisconsin ... I'm also from wisconsin ... . [link to covidtracking.com (secure)] . ... as of this posting in wisconsin 281 are pos/4,628 neg and 4 have passed ... . so many wasted tests, time and resources. FUCKING HYPOCHONDRIACS! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76485156 United States 03/22/2020 12:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Important *** Medical Expert gives Clear Cut Information from Wisconsin on What is Really Happening This is a private email passed from one professional in Wisconsin to another. It doesn't violate copyright laws so I am going to post it in its entirety considering the severity of the virus. I have also changed names to protect the privacy of these professionals. Quoting: asymetriclogic You all may not know it, but I am involved with a national organization called Take Heart America, and also with the Sudden Cardiac Arrest Foundation. As such, I have become involved in some of the latest research and have been able to meet and get to know some of the leading emergency and cardiac medicine doctors in the world. Tonight I was emailing with one of them, and he sent me what I can only describe as 'a real wake-up call' in response to my suggesting that we get together. I am sharing this with you and my friends and family in the hopes that it gets the unvarnished truth out about what is going on in terms of the corona virus. The email went as follows: Mark, As a good friend, I want to communicate the following information about COVID-19. . Please do not misinterpret my communication. I am not sending this to scare you, just to provide you with the latest, and most reliable information healthcare providers have received to prepare for this pandemic, so you and your wife can make informed decisions for yourself. The major points (as of today – this is rapidly evolving) are as follows: 1. This is serious. 2. Half of all deaths are under age 50. 3. Anecdotally, XXX has 2 patients with COVID-19 on ECMO - one previously healthy 27 year old and one previously healthy 30 year old. 4. With COVID-19 infections, there appears to be a component of direct infection of the heart, decreasing strength of the pumping action of the heart. Older people and people with cardiac and pulmonary conditions are at further, increased risk. 5. There is no known effective treatment. 6. Many patients with COVID-19 and symptoms are presenting to the emergency department only with upper respiratory complaints or a cough – no fever. 7. Following infection with COVID-19, there is an asymptomatic period of 2-9 days where people spread the disease to those they come into contact with. For every known case, there are at least 10 asymptomatic cases spreading the disease. 8. Thus, the number of asymptomatic infected people actively spreading the virus in public settings is exponentially higher right now than the number of known cases. 9. Fr******** ED had its first confirmed case Saturday. Yesterday they had 6 confirmed cases. The rate is rising exponentially. 10. The only known effective way to not get this disease is strict social isolation now (not next week!). This disease is unprecedented in any human experience in the last 100 years (since the Spanish Flu Pandemic of 1918). Given the available information today, my personal advice is to consider COVID-19 like a possible fatal disease in your decision-making. Example: what is the benefit of going to the restaurant tonight and having a wonderful dinner with my wife versus do I want to risk possibly getting a potentially fatal disease? That is the analogy for the meaning of “strict, social isolation”. Go in your house, shut the door, and don't come out. Timing is everything. The rate of known cases will exponentially increase by the day. “Now” versus “next week” matters. Not widely appreciated is that the expected duration of the need for this kind of strict social isolation is in the approximate range of at least 4-6 months. Wisconsin is expected to peak for known cases by mid to late May. It will also probably take just as long for it to taper off (IF social isolation compliance is effective). Accordingly, the responsible suggested recommendations are to cancel all in-person meetings. Do everything remotely. Stay home. Wash your hands frequently (use hand sanitizer). Sanitize your computer keyboard, cell phone, and surfaces at home frequently. Don't touch your face. Order groceries by delivery, if possible. Leave home only when absolutely necessary and then follow the "at least 6 foot rule" - keep at least 6 feet between you and the other person. You and I are at further, increased risk. In response to your request to meet in several weeks to discuss XXX, let's do it by phone or computer. Again, I don't want to scare you. However, we all need to have the correct information (the government has done an absolutely shameful job until the past few days) and respect this pandemic, and then keep it simple, do some basic things, implement strict isolation by the definition above, keep positive, and provide leadership institutionally, locally, and at home and with your loved ones and friends. Hunker down, and...stay healthy! May God protect us all from this pestilence. I am a Doctor. I read this supposed "e-mail from a cardiac medicine doctor." Immediately, I could see this person speaking in the "e-mail" was not a "cardiac medicine doctor," normally referred to as a Cardiologist, and never as a "cardiac medicine doctor." A real Cardiologist is so extensively trained and knowledgeable that whenever speaking of the work in their field they invariably use a certain vocabulary and speak of heart issues in a standard manner. This clown was not able to do any of that. This Thread is fake. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78456526 United States 03/22/2020 12:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Important *** Medical Expert gives Clear Cut Information from Wisconsin on What is Really Happening If you really are an MD (in the above post), I am wondering if you saw Laura Ingraham interview oncologist William Grace from Lennox Hill (?). He did state that they are seeing some mild cardiac issues in COVID 19 patients but did not elaborate. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78658541 United States 03/22/2020 12:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Important *** Medical Expert gives Clear Cut Information from Wisconsin on What is Really Happening None of the reported deaths in Wisconsin are people Under 50 and Wisconsin has only reported 4 deaths. Echo the sentiment above, this is fake as shit. There is so much of this Uncle Intel bullshit I’m actually starting to believe it’s intentionally being distributed to keep people afraid. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73040887 United States 03/22/2020 12:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Important *** Medical Expert gives Clear Cut Information from Wisconsin on What is Really Happening This is a private email passed from one professional in Wisconsin to another. It doesn't violate copyright laws so I am going to post it in its entirety considering the severity of the virus. I have also changed names to protect the privacy of these professionals. Quoting: asymetriclogic You all may not know it, but I am involved with a national organization called Take Heart America, and also with the Sudden Cardiac Arrest Foundation. As such, I have become involved in some of the latest research and have been able to meet and get to know some of the leading emergency and cardiac medicine doctors in the world. Tonight I was emailing with one of them, and he sent me what I can only describe as 'a real wake-up call' in response to my suggesting that we get together. I am sharing this with you and my friends and family in the hopes that it gets the unvarnished truth out about what is going on in terms of the corona virus. The email went as follows: Mark, As a good friend, I want to communicate the following information about COVID-19. . Please do not misinterpret my communication. I am not sending this to scare you, just to provide you with the latest, and most reliable information healthcare providers have received to prepare for this pandemic, so you and your wife can make informed decisions for yourself. The major points (as of today – this is rapidly evolving) are as follows: 1. This is serious. 2. Half of all deaths are under age 50. 3. Anecdotally, XXX has 2 patients with COVID-19 on ECMO - one previously healthy 27 year old and one previously healthy 30 year old. 4. With COVID-19 infections, there appears to be a component of direct infection of the heart, decreasing strength of the pumping action of the heart. Older people and people with cardiac and pulmonary conditions are at further, increased risk. 5. There is no known effective treatment. 6. Many patients with COVID-19 and symptoms are presenting to the emergency department only with upper respiratory complaints or a cough – no fever. 7. Following infection with COVID-19, there is an asymptomatic period of 2-9 days where people spread the disease to those they come into contact with. For every known case, there are at least 10 asymptomatic cases spreading the disease. 8. Thus, the number of asymptomatic infected people actively spreading the virus in public settings is exponentially higher right now than the number of known cases. 9. Fr******** ED had its first confirmed case Saturday. Yesterday they had 6 confirmed cases. The rate is rising exponentially. 10. The only known effective way to not get this disease is strict social isolation now (not next week!). This disease is unprecedented in any human experience in the last 100 years (since the Spanish Flu Pandemic of 1918). Given the available information today, my personal advice is to consider COVID-19 like a possible fatal disease in your decision-making. Example: what is the benefit of going to the restaurant tonight and having a wonderful dinner with my wife versus do I want to risk possibly getting a potentially fatal disease? That is the analogy for the meaning of “strict, social isolation”. Go in your house, shut the door, and don't come out. Timing is everything. The rate of known cases will exponentially increase by the day. “Now” versus “next week” matters. Not widely appreciated is that the expected duration of the need for this kind of strict social isolation is in the approximate range of at least 4-6 months. Wisconsin is expected to peak for known cases by mid to late May. It will also probably take just as long for it to taper off (IF social isolation compliance is effective). Accordingly, the responsible suggested recommendations are to cancel all in-person meetings. Do everything remotely. Stay home. Wash your hands frequently (use hand sanitizer). Sanitize your computer keyboard, cell phone, and surfaces at home frequently. Don't touch your face. Order groceries by delivery, if possible. Leave home only when absolutely necessary and then follow the "at least 6 foot rule" - keep at least 6 feet between you and the other person. You and I are at further, increased risk. In response to your request to meet in several weeks to discuss XXX, let's do it by phone or computer. Again, I don't want to scare you. However, we all need to have the correct information (the government has done an absolutely shameful job until the past few days) and respect this pandemic, and then keep it simple, do some basic things, implement strict isolation by the definition above, keep positive, and provide leadership institutionally, locally, and at home and with your loved ones and friends. Hunker down, and...stay healthy! May God protect us all from this pestilence. Its always funny how they seem to know the percentage of people who have it but show no symptoms. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77898480 United States 03/22/2020 12:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Important *** Medical Expert gives Clear Cut Information from Wisconsin on What is Really Happening 1.This is serious. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23379229 2.Half of all deaths are under age 50. So people under 50 are "MORE IMPORTANT", "MORE VALUABLE" than those over 50? I would argue that JUST THE OPPOSITE IS TRUE. With age comes WISDOM. Something sadly lacking in the young; especially the young, left-wing commie rat bastards of America. As someone over 50 I have to disagree with you. Young people can create more people. No amount of wisdom will ever make a 50 year old women able to bare 5 kids. Maybe one with a great deal of help from medical science and the eggs from a younger female. Men over the age of fifty are more likely to father children with birth defects. The prime ages for women to bare the most healthy children are between the ages of 16-22. Fact. Those of us over 50 are just here to help raise and educate. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78667145 United States 03/22/2020 12:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Important *** Medical Expert gives Clear Cut Information from Wisconsin on What is Really Happening Wisconsin resident here. I suspect the message is legit, and I'm betting that the censored "Fr******** ED" in OP's post is a reference to Froedtert Emergency Department (pronounced "frayed-turt"). It's one of the best hospitals in Wisconsin, and they've been on the forefront of this fight. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77073317 United States 03/22/2020 01:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Important *** Medical Expert gives Clear Cut Information from Wisconsin on What is Really Happening This is a private email passed from one professional in Wisconsin to another. It doesn't violate copyright laws so I am going to post it in its entirety considering the severity of the virus. I have also changed names to protect the privacy of these professionals. Quoting: asymetriclogic You all may not know it, but I am involved with a national organization called Take Heart America, and also with the Sudden Cardiac Arrest Foundation. As such, I have become involved in some of the latest research and have been able to meet and get to know some of the leading emergency and cardiac medicine doctors in the world. Tonight I was emailing with one of them, and he sent me what I can only describe as 'a real wake-up call' in response to my suggesting that we get together. I am sharing this with you and my friends and family in the hopes that it gets the unvarnished truth out about what is going on in terms of the corona virus. The email went as follows: Mark, As a good friend, I want to communicate the following information about COVID-19. . Please do not misinterpret my communication. I am not sending this to scare you, just to provide you with the latest, and most reliable information healthcare providers have received to prepare for this pandemic, so you and your wife can make informed decisions for yourself. The major points (as of today – this is rapidly evolving) are as follows: 1. This is serious. 2. Half of all deaths are under age 50. 3. Anecdotally, XXX has 2 patients with COVID-19 on ECMO - one previously healthy 27 year old and one previously healthy 30 year old. 4. With COVID-19 infections, there appears to be a component of direct infection of the heart, decreasing strength of the pumping action of the heart. Older people and people with cardiac and pulmonary conditions are at further, increased risk. 5. There is no known effective treatment. 6. Many patients with COVID-19 and symptoms are presenting to the emergency department only with upper respiratory complaints or a cough – no fever. 7. Following infection with COVID-19, there is an asymptomatic period of 2-9 days where people spread the disease to those they come into contact with. For every known case, there are at least 10 asymptomatic cases spreading the disease. 8. Thus, the number of asymptomatic infected people actively spreading the virus in public settings is exponentially higher right now than the number of known cases. 9. Fr******** ED had its first confirmed case Saturday. Yesterday they had 6 confirmed cases. The rate is rising exponentially. 10. The only known effective way to not get this disease is strict social isolation now (not next week!). This disease is unprecedented in any human experience in the last 100 years (since the Spanish Flu Pandemic of 1918). Given the available information today, my personal advice is to consider COVID-19 like a possible fatal disease in your decision-making. Example: what is the benefit of going to the restaurant tonight and having a wonderful dinner with my wife versus do I want to risk possibly getting a potentially fatal disease? That is the analogy for the meaning of “strict, social isolation”. Go in your house, shut the door, and don't come out. Timing is everything. The rate of known cases will exponentially increase by the day. “Now” versus “next week” matters. Not widely appreciated is that the expected duration of the need for this kind of strict social isolation is in the approximate range of at least 4-6 months. Wisconsin is expected to peak for known cases by mid to late May. It will also probably take just as long for it to taper off (IF social isolation compliance is effective). Accordingly, the responsible suggested recommendations are to cancel all in-person meetings. Do everything remotely. Stay home. Wash your hands frequently (use hand sanitizer). Sanitize your computer keyboard, cell phone, and surfaces at home frequently. Don't touch your face. Order groceries by delivery, if possible. Leave home only when absolutely necessary and then follow the "at least 6 foot rule" - keep at least 6 feet between you and the other person. You and I are at further, increased risk. In response to your request to meet in several weeks to discuss XXX, let's do it by phone or computer. Again, I don't want to scare you. However, we all need to have the correct information (the government has done an absolutely shameful job until the past few days) and respect this pandemic, and then keep it simple, do some basic things, implement strict isolation by the definition above, keep positive, and provide leadership institutionally, locally, and at home and with your loved ones and friends. Hunker down, and...stay healthy! May God protect us all from this pestilence. NO LINK NO GOOD |
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User ID: 76356891 United States 03/22/2020 02:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Important *** Medical Expert gives Clear Cut Information from Wisconsin on What is Really Happening 1.This is serious. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23379229 2.Half of all deaths are under age 50. So people under 50 are "MORE IMPORTANT", "MORE VALUABLE" than those over 50? I would argue that JUST THE OPPOSITE IS TRUE. With age comes WISDOM. Something sadly lacking in the young; especially the young, left-wing commie rat bastards of America. According to this site your probability of dying from covid under the age of 50 is 1%. COVID-19 Fatality Rate by AGE: *Death Rate = (number of deaths / number of cases) = probability of dying if infected by the virus (%). This probability differs depending on the age group. The percentages shown below do not have to add up to 100%, as they do NOT represent share of deaths by age group. Rather, it represents, for a person in a given age group, the risk of dying if infected with COVID-19. AGE DEATH RATE confirmed cases DEATH RATE all cases 80+ years old 21.9% 14.8% 70-79 years old 8.0% 60-69 years old 3.6% 50-59 years old 1.3% 40-49 years old 0.4% 30-39 years old 0.2% 20-29 years old 0.2% 10-19 years old 0.2% 0-9 years old no fatalities *Death Rate = (number of deaths / number of cases) = probability of dying if infected by the virus (%). The percentages do not have to add up to 100%, as they do NOT represent share of deaths by age group. Less than 50% [link to www.worldometers.info (secure)] From the author of Blade Runner: “There will come a time when it isn't 'They're spying on me through my phone' anymore. Eventually, it will be 'My phone is spying on me'.” Philip K. Dick |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74514656 United States 03/22/2020 02:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Important *** Medical Expert gives Clear Cut Information from Wisconsin on What is Really Happening Why did he say nothing about the pain then? Accounts online from supposed survivors describe excruciating pain. What about the ground glass lungs and the drowning sensation? Everyone puts out what really happens and the accounts are never the same. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77765338 United States 03/22/2020 02:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Important *** Medical Expert gives Clear Cut Information from Wisconsin on What is Really Happening 1.This is serious. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23379229 2.Half of all deaths are under age 50. So people under 50 are "MORE IMPORTANT", "MORE VALUABLE" than those over 50? I would argue that JUST THE OPPOSITE IS TRUE. With age comes WISDOM. Something sadly lacking in the young; especially the young, left-wing commie rat bastards of America. According to this site your probability of dying from covid under the age of 50 is 1%. COVID-19 Fatality Rate by AGE: *Death Rate = (number of deaths / number of cases) = probability of dying if infected by the virus (%). This probability differs depending on the age group. The percentages shown below do not have to add up to 100%, as they do NOT represent share of deaths by age group. Rather, it represents, for a person in a given age group, the risk of dying if infected with COVID-19. AGE DEATH RATE confirmed cases DEATH RATE all cases 80+ years old 21.9% 14.8% 70-79 years old 8.0% 60-69 years old 3.6% 50-59 years old 1.3% 40-49 years old 0.4% 30-39 years old 0.2% 20-29 years old 0.2% 10-19 years old 0.2% 0-9 years old no fatalities *Death Rate = (number of deaths / number of cases) = probability of dying if infected by the virus (%). The percentages do not have to add up to 100%, as they do NOT represent share of deaths by age group. Less than 50% [link to www.worldometers.info (secure)] Millenials catch a break I feel for everyone else though. Good luck |
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User ID: 77817863 United States 03/22/2020 02:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Important *** Medical Expert gives Clear Cut Information from Wisconsin on What is Really Happening This is a private email passed from one professional in Wisconsin to another. It doesn't violate copyright laws so I am going to post it in its entirety considering the severity of the virus. I have also changed names to protect the privacy of these professionals. Quoting: asymetriclogic You all may not know it, but I am involved with a national organization called Take Heart America, and also with the Sudden Cardiac Arrest Foundation. As such, I have become involved in some of the latest research and have been able to meet and get to know some of the leading emergency and cardiac medicine doctors in the world. Tonight I was emailing with one of them, and he sent me what I can only describe as 'a real wake-up call' in response to my suggesting that we get together. I am sharing this with you and my friends and family in the hopes that it gets the unvarnished truth out about what is going on in terms of the corona virus. The email went as follows: Mark, As a good friend, I want to communicate the following information about COVID-19. . Please do not misinterpret my communication. I am not sending this to scare you, just to provide you with the latest, and most reliable information healthcare providers have received to prepare for this pandemic, so you and your wife can make informed decisions for yourself. The major points (as of today – this is rapidly evolving) are as follows: 1. This is serious. 2. Half of all deaths are under age 50. 3. Anecdotally, XXX has 2 patients with COVID-19 on ECMO - one previously healthy 27 year old and one previously healthy 30 year old. 4. With COVID-19 infections, there appears to be a component of direct infection of the heart, decreasing strength of the pumping action of the heart. Older people and people with cardiac and pulmonary conditions are at further, increased risk. 5. There is no known effective treatment. 6. Many patients with COVID-19 and symptoms are presenting to the emergency department only with upper respiratory complaints or a cough – no fever. 7. Following infection with COVID-19, there is an asymptomatic period of 2-9 days where people spread the disease to those they come into contact with. For every known case, there are at least 10 asymptomatic cases spreading the disease. 8. Thus, the number of asymptomatic infected people actively spreading the virus in public settings is exponentially higher right now than the number of known cases. 9. Fr******** ED had its first confirmed case Saturday. Yesterday they had 6 confirmed cases. The rate is rising exponentially. 10. The only known effective way to not get this disease is strict social isolation now (not next week!). This disease is unprecedented in any human experience in the last 100 years (since the Spanish Flu Pandemic of 1918). Given the available information today, my personal advice is to consider COVID-19 like a possible fatal disease in your decision-making. Example: what is the benefit of going to the restaurant tonight and having a wonderful dinner with my wife versus do I want to risk possibly getting a potentially fatal disease? That is the analogy for the meaning of “strict, social isolation”. Go in your house, shut the door, and don't come out. Timing is everything. The rate of known cases will exponentially increase by the day. “Now” versus “next week” matters. Not widely appreciated is that the expected duration of the need for this kind of strict social isolation is in the approximate range of at least 4-6 months. Wisconsin is expected to peak for known cases by mid to late May. It will also probably take just as long for it to taper off (IF social isolation compliance is effective). Accordingly, the responsible suggested recommendations are to cancel all in-person meetings. Do everything remotely. Stay home. Wash your hands frequently (use hand sanitizer). Sanitize your computer keyboard, cell phone, and surfaces at home frequently. Don't touch your face. Order groceries by delivery, if possible. Leave home only when absolutely necessary and then follow the "at least 6 foot rule" - keep at least 6 feet between you and the other person. You and I are at further, increased risk. In response to your request to meet in several weeks to discuss XXX, let's do it by phone or computer. Again, I don't want to scare you. However, we all need to have the correct information (the government has done an absolutely shameful job until the past few days) and respect this pandemic, and then keep it simple, do some basic things, implement strict isolation by the definition above, keep positive, and provide leadership institutionally, locally, and at home and with your loved ones and friends. Hunker down, and...stay healthy! May God protect us all from this pestilence. Was this first hand from the professional to you or was this a pass along email? Asking because I have seen variations of this letter 5 or 6 times w/in the last day. First was a respiratory therapist, another was a nurse, one was a hospital administrator, etc. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77765338 United States 03/22/2020 02:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Important *** Medical Expert gives Clear Cut Information from Wisconsin on What is Really Happening None of the reported deaths in Wisconsin are people Under 50 and Wisconsin has only reported 4 deaths. Echo the sentiment above, this is fake as shit. There is so much of this Uncle Intel bullshit I’m actually starting to believe it’s intentionally being distributed to keep people afraid. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78658541 If you keep people afraid they'll react positively towards more draconian laws. Look people a virus is an act of god. Yes take precautionary measures, like what we would during a hurricane in New Orleans, or a Tornado in Iowa, or an earthquake in San Fran, but don't let the government go overboard on this. Keep your head screwed on straight. THEY WILL NOT LET A GOOD CRISIS GO TO WASTE. DON'T FORGET THAT. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78103678 United States 03/22/2020 02:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Important *** Medical Expert gives Clear Cut Information from Wisconsin on What is Really Happening This is a private email passed from one professional in Wisconsin to another. It doesn't violate copyright laws so I am going to post it in its entirety considering the severity of the virus. I have also changed names to protect the privacy of these professionals. Quoting: asymetriclogic You all may not know it, but I am involved with a national organization called Take Heart America, and also with the Sudden Cardiac Arrest Foundation. As such, I have become involved in some of the latest research and have been able to meet and get to know some of the leading emergency and cardiac medicine doctors in the world. Tonight I was emailing with one of them, and he sent me what I can only describe as 'a real wake-up call' in response to my suggesting that we get together. I am sharing this with you and my friends and family in the hopes that it gets the unvarnished truth out about what is going on in terms of the corona virus. The email went as follows: Mark, As a good friend, I want to communicate the following information about COVID-19. . Please do not misinterpret my communication. I am not sending this to scare you, just to provide you with the latest, and most reliable information healthcare providers have received to prepare for this pandemic, so you and your wife can make informed decisions for yourself. The major points (as of today – this is rapidly evolving) are as follows: 1. This is serious. 2. Half of all deaths are under age 50. 3. Anecdotally, XXX has 2 patients with COVID-19 on ECMO - one previously healthy 27 year old and one previously healthy 30 year old. 4. With COVID-19 infections, there appears to be a component of direct infection of the heart, decreasing strength of the pumping action of the heart. Older people and people with cardiac and pulmonary conditions are at further, increased risk. 5. There is no known effective treatment. 6. Many patients with COVID-19 and symptoms are presenting to the emergency department only with upper respiratory complaints or a cough – no fever. 7. Following infection with COVID-19, there is an asymptomatic period of 2-9 days where people spread the disease to those they come into contact with. For every known case, there are at least 10 asymptomatic cases spreading the disease. 8. Thus, the number of asymptomatic infected people actively spreading the virus in public settings is exponentially higher right now than the number of known cases. 9. Fr******** ED had its first confirmed case Saturday. Yesterday they had 6 confirmed cases. The rate is rising exponentially. 10. The only known effective way to not get this disease is strict social isolation now (not next week!). This disease is unprecedented in any human experience in the last 100 years (since the Spanish Flu Pandemic of 1918). Given the available information today, my personal advice is to consider COVID-19 like a possible fatal disease in your decision-making. Example: what is the benefit of going to the restaurant tonight and having a wonderful dinner with my wife versus do I want to risk possibly getting a potentially fatal disease? That is the analogy for the meaning of “strict, social isolation”. Go in your house, shut the door, and don't come out. Timing is everything. The rate of known cases will exponentially increase by the day. “Now” versus “next week” matters. Not widely appreciated is that the expected duration of the need for this kind of strict social isolation is in the approximate range of at least 4-6 months. Wisconsin is expected to peak for known cases by mid to late May. It will also probably take just as long for it to taper off (IF social isolation compliance is effective). Accordingly, the responsible suggested recommendations are to cancel all in-person meetings. Do everything remotely. Stay home. Wash your hands frequently (use hand sanitizer). Sanitize your computer keyboard, cell phone, and surfaces at home frequently. Don't touch your face. Order groceries by delivery, if possible. Leave home only when absolutely necessary and then follow the "at least 6 foot rule" - keep at least 6 feet between you and the other person. You and I are at further, increased risk. In response to your request to meet in several weeks to discuss XXX, let's do it by phone or computer. Again, I don't want to scare you. However, we all need to have the correct information (the government has done an absolutely shameful job until the past few days) and respect this pandemic, and then keep it simple, do some basic things, implement strict isolation by the definition above, keep positive, and provide leadership institutionally, locally, and at home and with your loved ones and friends. Hunker down, and...stay healthy! May God protect us all from this pestilence. I am a Doctor. I read this supposed "e-mail from a cardiac medicine doctor." Immediately, I could see this person speaking in the "e-mail" was not a "cardiac medicine doctor," normally referred to as a Cardiologist, and never as a "cardiac medicine doctor." A real Cardiologist is so extensively trained and knowledgeable that whenever speaking of the work in their field they invariably use a certain vocabulary and speak of heart issues in a standard manner. This clown was not able to do any of that. This Thread is fake. Thank you. |
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User ID: 78259322 United States 03/25/2020 03:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Important *** Medical Expert gives Clear Cut Information from Wisconsin on What is Really Happening that’s what Wisconsin gets for electing far left authoritarian dems. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72430464 . Our family celebrates The Lord's Feasts: [link to www.grafted-promise.net] Fools and the dead don't change their minds. Fools won't and the dead can't. When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar. You are only telling the world that you fear what he might say. Quoting: CountryWise Amos 5:13 - Therefore at such a time the prudent person keeps silent, for it is an evil time. |
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User ID: 78259322 United States 03/25/2020 03:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Important *** Medical Expert gives Clear Cut Information from Wisconsin on What is Really Happening Wisconsin Wisconsin on Twitter Positive 457 Negative 8,237 Pending N/A Hospitalized N/A Deaths 5 Total 8,694 Wisconsin data Last updated: 3/24 16:00 ET Last checked: 3/24 15:38 ET [link to covidtracking.com (secure)] Last Edited by wisconsin human on 03/25/2020 03:13 PM . Our family celebrates The Lord's Feasts: [link to www.grafted-promise.net] Fools and the dead don't change their minds. Fools won't and the dead can't. When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar. You are only telling the world that you fear what he might say. Quoting: CountryWise Amos 5:13 - Therefore at such a time the prudent person keeps silent, for it is an evil time. |