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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78018417 03/22/2020 05:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Important *** Medical Expert gives Clear Cut Information from Wisconsin on What is Really Happening This is a private email passed from one professional in Wisconsin to another. It doesn't violate copyright laws so I am going to post it in its entirety considering the severity of the virus. I have also changed names to protect the privacy of these professionals. Quoting: asymetriclogic You all may not know it, but I am involved with a national organization called Take Heart America, and also with the Sudden Cardiac Arrest Foundation. As such, I have become involved in some of the latest research and have been able to meet and get to know some of the leading emergency and cardiac medicine doctors in the world. Tonight I was emailing with one of them, and he sent me what I can only describe as 'a real wake-up call' in response to my suggesting that we get together. I am sharing this with you and my friends and family in the hopes that it gets the unvarnished truth out about what is going on in terms of the corona virus. The email went as follows: Mark, As a good friend, I want to communicate the following information about COVID-19. . Please do not misinterpret my communication. I am not sending this to scare you, just to provide you with the latest, and most reliable information healthcare providers have received to prepare for this pandemic, so you and your wife can make informed decisions for yourself. The major points (as of today – this is rapidly evolving) are as follows: 1. This is serious. 2. Half of all deaths are under age 50. 3. Anecdotally, XXX has 2 patients with COVID-19 on ECMO - one previously healthy 27 year old and one previously healthy 30 year old. 4. With COVID-19 infections, there appears to be a component of direct infection of the heart, decreasing strength of the pumping action of the heart. Older people and people with cardiac and pulmonary conditions are at further, increased risk. 5. There is no known effective treatment. 6. Many patients with COVID-19 and symptoms are presenting to the emergency department only with upper respiratory complaints or a cough – no fever. 7. Following infection with COVID-19, there is an asymptomatic period of 2-9 days where people spread the disease to those they come into contact with. For every known case, there are at least 10 asymptomatic cases spreading the disease. 8. Thus, the number of asymptomatic infected people actively spreading the virus in public settings is exponentially higher right now than the number of known cases. 9. Fr******** ED had its first confirmed case Saturday. Yesterday they had 6 confirmed cases. The rate is rising exponentially. 10. The only known effective way to not get this disease is strict social isolation now (not next week!). This disease is unprecedented in any human experience in the last 100 years (since the Spanish Flu Pandemic of 1918). Given the available information today, my personal advice is to consider COVID-19 like a possible fatal disease in your decision-making. Example: what is the benefit of going to the restaurant tonight and having a wonderful dinner with my wife versus do I want to risk possibly getting a potentially fatal disease? That is the analogy for the meaning of “strict, social isolation”. Go in your house, shut the door, and don't come out. Timing is everything. The rate of known cases will exponentially increase by the day. “Now” versus “next week” matters. Not widely appreciated is that the expected duration of the need for this kind of strict social isolation is in the approximate range of at least 4-6 months. Wisconsin is expected to peak for known cases by mid to late May. It will also probably take just as long for it to taper off (IF social isolation compliance is effective). Accordingly, the responsible suggested recommendations are to cancel all in-person meetings. Do everything remotely. Stay home. Wash your hands frequently (use hand sanitizer). Sanitize your computer keyboard, cell phone, and surfaces at home frequently. Don't touch your face. Order groceries by delivery, if possible. Leave home only when absolutely necessary and then follow the "at least 6 foot rule" - keep at least 6 feet between you and the other person. You and I are at further, increased risk. In response to your request to meet in several weeks to discuss XXX, let's do it by phone or computer. Again, I don't want to scare you. However, we all need to have the correct information (the government has done an absolutely shameful job until the past few days) and respect this pandemic, and then keep it simple, do some basic things, implement strict isolation by the definition above, keep positive, and provide leadership institutionally, locally, and at home and with your loved ones and friends. Hunker down, and...stay healthy! May God protect us all from this pestilence. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 23379229 United States 03/22/2020 06:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Important *** Medical Expert gives Clear Cut Information from Wisconsin on What is Really Happening 1.This is serious. 2.Half of all deaths are under age 50. So people under 50 are "MORE IMPORTANT", "MORE VALUABLE" than those over 50? I would argue that JUST THE OPPOSITE IS TRUE. With age comes WISDOM. Something sadly lacking in the young; especially the young, left-wing commie rat bastards of America. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78665529 United States 03/22/2020 06:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Important *** Medical Expert gives Clear Cut Information from Wisconsin on What is Really Happening part of the problem is they created an atmosphere of secrecy in the medical industry like everyone's health problems, even if it was an epidemic was some kind of top secret classified information. Trump said they were suspending HIPA penalties so doctors could tell you what the fuck is going on, wow, ya think?? that might be a good idea? yeah they should have been doing that all along with ALL contagious diseases like HPV, Lyme disease, aids, ANYTHING contagious is PUBLIC INFORMATION |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78665529 United States 03/22/2020 06:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Important *** Medical Expert gives Clear Cut Information from Wisconsin on What is Really Happening how can a disease be considered fatal when 80 percent of the people who get it don't get sick enough to notice they even have it? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70925567 only now, as in WE HERE on GLP TODAy are hearing the TRUTH about how bad it actually is. the people ordering the shut downs obviously knew but there was no system of TELLING US or giving real information to the media, they were following their NON TRANSPARENCY in everything protocols. we live in a secret society where EVERYTHING that is done is some kind of TOP SECRET operation, where everyone who knows something acts like everyone else is an outsider unworthy of being told the truth. in other words, everyone else is to be lied to about everything all the time |
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User ID: 76863067 United States 03/22/2020 06:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Important *** Medical Expert gives Clear Cut Information from Wisconsin on What is Really Happening The more I hear from medical professionals, the more this virus sounds man made and very unnatural, especially the part about not getting a fever. Fevers are how your immune system attacks viruses for the heat kills it as well it lets you know something's wrong |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78667823 United States 03/22/2020 06:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Important *** Medical Expert gives Clear Cut Information from Wisconsin on What is Really Happening This is a private email passed from one professional in Wisconsin to another. It doesn't violate copyright laws so I am going to post it in its entirety considering the severity of the virus. I have also changed names to protect the privacy of these professionals. Quoting: asymetriclogic You all may not know it, but I am involved with a national organization called Take Heart America, and also with the Sudden Cardiac Arrest Foundation. As such, I have become involved in some of the latest research and have been able to meet and get to know some of the leading emergency and cardiac medicine doctors in the world. Tonight I was emailing with one of them, and he sent me what I can only describe as 'a real wake-up call' in response to my suggesting that we get together. I am sharing this with you and my friends and family in the hopes that it gets the unvarnished truth out about what is going on in terms of the corona virus. The email went as follows: Mark, As a good friend, I want to communicate the following information about COVID-19. . Please do not misinterpret my communication. I am not sending this to scare you, just to provide you with the latest, and most reliable information healthcare providers have received to prepare for this pandemic, so you and your wife can make informed decisions for yourself. The major points (as of today – this is rapidly evolving) are as follows: 1. This is serious. 2. Half of all deaths are under age 50. 3. Anecdotally, XXX has 2 patients with COVID-19 on ECMO - one previously healthy 27 year old and one previously healthy 30 year old. 4. With COVID-19 infections, there appears to be a component of direct infection of the heart, decreasing strength of the pumping action of the heart. Older people and people with cardiac and pulmonary conditions are at further, increased risk. 5. There is no known effective treatment. 6. Many patients with COVID-19 and symptoms are presenting to the emergency department only with upper respiratory complaints or a cough – no fever. 7. Following infection with COVID-19, there is an asymptomatic period of 2-9 days where people spread the disease to those they come into contact with. For every known case, there are at least 10 asymptomatic cases spreading the disease. 8. Thus, the number of asymptomatic infected people actively spreading the virus in public settings is exponentially higher right now than the number of known cases. 9. Fr******** ED had its first confirmed case Saturday. Yesterday they had 6 confirmed cases. The rate is rising exponentially. 10. The only known effective way to not get this disease is strict social isolation now (not next week!). This disease is unprecedented in any human experience in the last 100 years (since the Spanish Flu Pandemic of 1918). Given the available information today, my personal advice is to consider COVID-19 like a possible fatal disease in your decision-making. Example: what is the benefit of going to the restaurant tonight and having a wonderful dinner with my wife versus do I want to risk possibly getting a potentially fatal disease? That is the analogy for the meaning of “strict, social isolation”. Go in your house, shut the door, and don't come out. Timing is everything. The rate of known cases will exponentially increase by the day. “Now” versus “next week” matters. Not widely appreciated is that the expected duration of the need for this kind of strict social isolation is in the approximate range of at least 4-6 months. Wisconsin is expected to peak for known cases by mid to late May. It will also probably take just as long for it to taper off (IF social isolation compliance is effective). Accordingly, the responsible suggested recommendations are to cancel all in-person meetings. Do everything remotely. Stay home. Wash your hands frequently (use hand sanitizer). Sanitize your computer keyboard, cell phone, and surfaces at home frequently. Don't touch your face. Order groceries by delivery, if possible. Leave home only when absolutely necessary and then follow the "at least 6 foot rule" - keep at least 6 feet between you and the other person. You and I are at further, increased risk. In response to your request to meet in several weeks to discuss XXX, let's do it by phone or computer. Again, I don't want to scare you. However, we all need to have the correct information (the government has done an absolutely shameful job until the past few days) and respect this pandemic, and then keep it simple, do some basic things, implement strict isolation by the definition above, keep positive, and provide leadership institutionally, locally, and at home and with your loved ones and friends. Hunker down, and...stay healthy! May God protect us all from this pestilence. Kys larper. Post actual email |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77651045 Turkey 03/22/2020 07:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Important *** Medical Expert gives Clear Cut Information from Wisconsin on What is Really Happening If this is all true, why isnt it being shared with news stations to inform Americans & keep people inside? All the scariest stories seem to be from Anonymous sources instead of medical professionals with names. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 18990010 United States 03/22/2020 07:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Important *** Medical Expert gives Clear Cut Information from Wisconsin on What is Really Happening This is a private email passed from one professional in Wisconsin to another. It doesn't violate copyright laws so I am going to post it in its entirety considering the severity of the virus. I have also changed names to protect the privacy of these professionals. Quoting: asymetriclogic You all may not know it, but I am involved with a national organization called Take Heart America, and also with the Sudden Cardiac Arrest Foundation. As such, I have become involved in some of the latest research and have been able to meet and get to know some of the leading emergency and cardiac medicine doctors in the world. Tonight I was emailing with one of them, and he sent me what I can only describe as 'a real wake-up call' in response to my suggesting that we get together. I am sharing this with you and my friends and family in the hopes that it gets the unvarnished truth out about what is going on in terms of the corona virus. The email went as follows: Mark, As a good friend, I want to communicate the following information about COVID-19. . Please do not misinterpret my communication. I am not sending this to scare you, just to provide you with the latest, and most reliable information healthcare providers have received to prepare for this pandemic, so you and your wife can make informed decisions for yourself. The major points (as of today – this is rapidly evolving) are as follows: 1. This is serious. 2. Half of all deaths are under age 50. 3. Anecdotally, XXX has 2 patients with COVID-19 on ECMO - one previously healthy 27 year old and one previously healthy 30 year old. 4. With COVID-19 infections, there appears to be a component of direct infection of the heart, decreasing strength of the pumping action of the heart. Older people and people with cardiac and pulmonary conditions are at further, increased risk. 5. There is no known effective treatment. 6. Many patients with COVID-19 and symptoms are presenting to the emergency department only with upper respiratory complaints or a cough – no fever. 7. Following infection with COVID-19, there is an asymptomatic period of 2-9 days where people spread the disease to those they come into contact with. For every known case, there are at least 10 asymptomatic cases spreading the disease. 8. Thus, the number of asymptomatic infected people actively spreading the virus in public settings is exponentially higher right now than the number of known cases. 9. Fr******** ED had its first confirmed case Saturday. Yesterday they had 6 confirmed cases. The rate is rising exponentially. 10. The only known effective way to not get this disease is strict social isolation now (not next week!). This disease is unprecedented in any human experience in the last 100 years (since the Spanish Flu Pandemic of 1918). Given the available information today, my personal advice is to consider COVID-19 like a possible fatal disease in your decision-making. Example: what is the benefit of going to the restaurant tonight and having a wonderful dinner with my wife versus do I want to risk possibly getting a potentially fatal disease? That is the analogy for the meaning of “strict, social isolation”. Go in your house, shut the door, and don't come out. Timing is everything. The rate of known cases will exponentially increase by the day. “Now” versus “next week” matters. Not widely appreciated is that the expected duration of the need for this kind of strict social isolation is in the approximate range of at least 4-6 months. Wisconsin is expected to peak for known cases by mid to late May. It will also probably take just as long for it to taper off (IF social isolation compliance is effective). Accordingly, the responsible suggested recommendations are to cancel all in-person meetings. Do everything remotely. Stay home. Wash your hands frequently (use hand sanitizer). Sanitize your computer keyboard, cell phone, and surfaces at home frequently. Don't touch your face. Order groceries by delivery, if possible. Leave home only when absolutely necessary and then follow the "at least 6 foot rule" - keep at least 6 feet between you and the other person. You and I are at further, increased risk. In response to your request to meet in several weeks to discuss XXX, let's do it by phone or computer. Again, I don't want to scare you. However, we all need to have the correct information (the government has done an absolutely shameful job until the past few days) and respect this pandemic, and then keep it simple, do some basic things, implement strict isolation by the definition above, keep positive, and provide leadership institutionally, locally, and at home and with your loved ones and friends. Hunker down, and...stay healthy! May God protect us all from this pestilence. ALL HELL IS BREAKING LOOSE AND NOT GONNA MATTER. POST THE ACTUAL EMAIL. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78667790 Romania 03/22/2020 07:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Important *** Medical Expert gives Clear Cut Information from Wisconsin on What is Really Happening Tree fiddy! This is their ultimate strike! Either they have success, either they will end like this: [link to www.custermen.com (secure)] They and their cohorts! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77651045 Turkey 03/22/2020 07:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Important *** Medical Expert gives Clear Cut Information from Wisconsin on What is Really Happening We are self quarantined anyway, but DINT LEAVE YOUR HOUSE!??? Why?? Why cant you leave your house if you can do so without coming near other humans?? |
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User ID: 52594113 United States 03/22/2020 07:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Important *** Medical Expert gives Clear Cut Information from Wisconsin on What is Really Happening So if this did violate some sort of copyright law you would not have posted this important 'information'? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5656135 And why would this expert point out that "half of all deaths are under age 50" when it's more notable that half of the deaths are over age 50, which is a bigger problem comparatively? You're onto something. I suspect OP is an aspiring novelist, and still has quite a ways to go before making it small. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 75430122 United States 03/22/2020 07:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Important *** Medical Expert gives Clear Cut Information from Wisconsin on What is Really Happening 1.This is serious. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23379229 2.Half of all deaths are under age 50. So people under 50 are "MORE IMPORTANT", "MORE VALUABLE" than those over 50? I would argue that JUST THE OPPOSITE IS TRUE. With age comes WISDOM. Something sadly lacking in the young; especially the young, left-wing commie rat bastards of America. I don't think it's so much about perceived value of older folks. It's about, "well I'm young so I can still safely live as I have." It's false security. |
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User ID: 77158791 United States 03/22/2020 07:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Important *** Medical Expert gives Clear Cut Information from Wisconsin on What is Really Happening This is a private email passed from one professional in Wisconsin to another. It doesn't violate copyright laws so I am going to post it in its entirety considering the severity of the virus. I have also changed names to protect the privacy of these professionals. Quoting: asymetriclogic You all may not know it, but I am involved with a national organization called Take Heart America, and also with the Sudden Cardiac Arrest Foundation. As such, I have become involved in some of the latest research and have been able to meet and get to know some of the leading emergency and cardiac medicine doctors in the world. Tonight I was emailing with one of them, and he sent me what I can only describe as 'a real wake-up call' in response to my suggesting that we get together. I am sharing this with you and my friends and family in the hopes that it gets the unvarnished truth out about what is going on in terms of the corona virus. The email went as follows: Mark, As a good friend, I want to communicate the following information about COVID-19. . Please do not misinterpret my communication. I am not sending this to scare you, just to provide you with the latest, and most reliable information healthcare providers have received to prepare for this pandemic, so you and your wife can make informed decisions for yourself. The major points (as of today – this is rapidly evolving) are as follows: 1. This is serious. 2. Half of all deaths are under age 50. 3. Anecdotally, XXX has 2 patients with COVID-19 on ECMO - one previously healthy 27 year old and one previously healthy 30 year old. 4. With COVID-19 infections, there appears to be a component of direct infection of the heart, decreasing strength of the pumping action of the heart. Older people and people with cardiac and pulmonary conditions are at further, increased risk. 5. There is no known effective treatment. 6. Many patients with COVID-19 and symptoms are presenting to the emergency department only with upper respiratory complaints or a cough – no fever. 7. Following infection with COVID-19, there is an asymptomatic period of 2-9 days where people spread the disease to those they come into contact with. For every known case, there are at least 10 asymptomatic cases spreading the disease. 8. Thus, the number of asymptomatic infected people actively spreading the virus in public settings is exponentially higher right now than the number of known cases. 9. Fr******** ED had its first confirmed case Saturday. Yesterday they had 6 confirmed cases. The rate is rising exponentially. 10. The only known effective way to not get this disease is strict social isolation now (not next week!). This disease is unprecedented in any human experience in the last 100 years (since the Spanish Flu Pandemic of 1918). Given the available information today, my personal advice is to consider COVID-19 like a possible fatal disease in your decision-making. Example: what is the benefit of going to the restaurant tonight and having a wonderful dinner with my wife versus do I want to risk possibly getting a potentially fatal disease? That is the analogy for the meaning of “strict, social isolation”. Go in your house, shut the door, and don't come out. Timing is everything. The rate of known cases will exponentially increase by the day. “Now” versus “next week” matters. Not widely appreciated is that the expected duration of the need for this kind of strict social isolation is in the approximate range of at least 4-6 months. Wisconsin is expected to peak for known cases by mid to late May. It will also probably take just as long for it to taper off (IF social isolation compliance is effective). Accordingly, the responsible suggested recommendations are to cancel all in-person meetings. Do everything remotely. Stay home. Wash your hands frequently (use hand sanitizer). Sanitize your computer keyboard, cell phone, and surfaces at home frequently. Don't touch your face. Order groceries by delivery, if possible. Leave home only when absolutely necessary and then follow the "at least 6 foot rule" - keep at least 6 feet between you and the other person. You and I are at further, increased risk. In response to your request to meet in several weeks to discuss XXX, let's do it by phone or computer. Again, I don't want to scare you. However, we all need to have the correct information (the government has done an absolutely shameful job until the past few days) and respect this pandemic, and then keep it simple, do some basic things, implement strict isolation by the definition above, keep positive, and provide leadership institutionally, locally, and at home and with your loved ones and friends. Hunker down, and...stay healthy! May God protect us all from this pestilence. I see that and will raise you to 2 BS flags. The email above was written by a libtard, not a medical professional. |
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User ID: 74033279 United States 03/22/2020 07:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Important *** Medical Expert gives Clear Cut Information from Wisconsin on What is Really Happening how can a disease be considered fatal when 80 percent of the people who get it don't get sick enough to notice they even have it? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70925567 Because it's like that time in the hiv aids era, when: "you may look and feel fine, but you're a dead duck walking." Give us more funding. We'll try and save you with the toxic drugs we have stashed in the back, but if they kill you, at least you can say you were a pioneer in this fight. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78055058 United States 03/22/2020 07:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Important *** Medical Expert gives Clear Cut Information from Wisconsin on What is Really Happening PRIVATE E MAIL??? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77651045 If this is all true, why isnt it being shared with news stations to inform Americans & keep people inside? All the scariest stories seem to be from Anonymous sources instead of medical professionals with names. The news won't report things like this. Let's say the news would report it. If they were given this info by someone, there is a high probability that the person that gave them the information could lose their job. That. IMO is why the information is coming out the way it is. When the government tells me, "only get your info from me because WE are the only credible source of info" I do the exact opposite, because I know they are all liars. |
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User ID: 74290378 United States 03/22/2020 07:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Important *** Medical Expert gives Clear Cut Information from Wisconsin on What is Really Happening Total bullshit. As of a few days ago, Italy had 1 death in sub-50 age group. I'm sure it has gone up, but we are talking less than 1% of deaths. Same with China: [link to www.businessinsider.com (secure)] It's possible that greater than 50% of incoming patients are younger, but as long as they have access to oxygen and do not have other serious underlying health problems, their recovery rate is almost 100%. |