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Netherlands NO "lockdown", virus control through group immunity

 
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Netherlands NO "lockdown", virus control through group immunity
PM speech this evening, plan of attack is to milden the caseload by keeping public places closed for a long time, but let normal life run its course besides that. So no lockdown. The idea is that because 80% will have mild symptoms, they will build immunity and the virus won't be able to spread to weaker people, on the long term.

This opposed to other EU countries that do lockdown. Theory is that the virus will just pop up again when you quit lockup, and you should keep that going for a year or maybe more and economy and normal life will be utterly destroyed.

So NL is chosing the middle road, but other countries in EU don't. So far for a unified European Union. Won't this have effects in the long run? The virus could mutate in us to overcome our immunity and pop up next winter as an even stronger mutation. Other EU countries that did lockdown won't have any immunity at all, and casualties could rise even more.

Thoughts?

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Re: Netherlands NO "lockdown", virus control through group immunity
Nothing to do with a virus - they are locking up human beings and killing them off.

Germ theory brainwashing has everyone lined up for the caging - and culling...
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Mainstream media praising PM Rutte wtf

This will mean many unnescessary deaths compared to all countries that go in lockdown. Only UK and NL adopt this herd immunity thing which only works with 80-90% of the population, including vaccin treatment.

Looks like UK/NL are isolating from other countries. There is no common plan or treatment.
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03/16/2020 05:20 PM
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Re: Netherlands NO "lockdown", virus control through group immunity
Just stop fearbating alright.
Millions of people die from the flu each year.
Closing pubs is silly as well.
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Re: Netherlands NO "lockdown", virus control through group immunity
PM speech this evening, plan of attack is to milden the caseload by keeping public places closed for a long time, but let normal life run its course besides that. So no lockdown. The idea is that because 80% will have mild symptoms, they will build immunity and the virus won't be able to spread to weaker people, on the long term.

This opposed to other EU countries that do lockdown. Theory is that the virus will just pop up again when you quit lockup, and you should keep that going for a year or maybe more and economy and normal life will be utterly destroyed.

So NL is chosing the middle road, but other countries in EU don't. So far for a unified European Union. Won't this have effects in the long run? The virus could mutate in us to overcome our immunity and pop up next winter as an even stronger mutation. Other EU countries that did lockdown won't have any immunity at all, and casualties could rise even more.

Thoughts?
 Quoting: R...


"Building immunity" against such a virus is really a dumb take.

It goes like this: you die from it or you don't. If you do, you'll never develop immunity ever again. If you don't, you are not one of the people at risk the first time, so you won't be the next time either.


Countries advocating for lockdowns do so to protect the healthcare system from being overrun like in Italy or China, not to have less deaths.

Countries like UK choosing to let this run will pay the price heavily. Not in human lives, but because their healthcare system will be utterly destroyed.
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03/16/2020 05:59 PM
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Re: Netherlands NO "lockdown", virus control through group immunity
Just stop fearbating alright.
Millions of people die from the flu each year.
Closing pubs is silly as well.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78631619


OK Einstein. So I hear you are good at maths.

No I'm joking, you suck at maths.

First, millions do not die from the flu each year. It's 291,000 to 646,000.

[link to www.medicinenet.com (secure)]

No about the death rate:

In January this year, Italy reported that since flu season started in October 2019, over 2 million cases of flu were recorded, resulting in 240 deaths.

240 Deaths in one month.


368 have died from Covid in Italy YESTERDAY
[link to www.aljazeera.com (secure)]

In one fucking day

And the whole country isn't even infected yet.



In short: you are a moron. Go lick a doorknob or kill yourself. Just rid the world of your stupidity.

Thanks.
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03/16/2020 06:28 PM
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Ah well, it means there is still a little social and public life. Coffeeshops open again! stoner
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Re: Netherlands NO "lockdown", virus control through group immunity
I think they have been visiting too many of your cafes over there and ordering off the "Special Menus" ...

Our government said the same last week but changed track today, I expect your country will do the same in the next day or two.
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03/16/2020 06:44 PM
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So basically, the world will have to quarantine Netherlands so as to not let the virus out of there, in the long term?
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it's nice your 'government' didnt decide for you.
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Re: Netherlands NO "lockdown", virus control through group immunity
The UK is following the same strategy.
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Re: Netherlands NO "lockdown", virus control through group immunity
The UK is following the same strategy.
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It was - Boris, the prime minister, has been pushing social distancing and such lately - I saw this earlier this morning when a canadian news channel was doing filler content while waiting for a government press briefing





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