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Anonymous Coward User ID: 272128 Canada 08/28/2007 10:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Can We Trust The Bible? Startling Archeological Discoveries Confirm The Truth Of The Word Of God Since the bible was writen by men, from or around the time frames involved, or based on the local mythos and history of areas involved, of course it will have archeological positives. Doesn't mean squat as far as gods and religions go. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 281483 United States 08/28/2007 10:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Can We Trust The Bible? Startling Archeological Discoveries Confirm The Truth Of The Word Of God Attempts at manipulation prove a particular religion to be absolutely false. God has no need of manipulation. Who killed Jesus? The established religion of the time. These people were CERTAIN their beliefs could not possibly be wrong and therefore that made Jesus a heretic to be killed. Why do we repeat such a mentality today? I am not against the true Christianity that recognizes God in everyone. I oppose the false Christianists that attempt to manipulate other humans. You think we do not know you manipulate. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 272128 Canada 08/28/2007 10:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Can We Trust The Bible? Startling Archeological Discoveries Confirm The Truth Of The Word Of God And lo! it came that the prophet columbus was led to the new world, and the people of blahtards built a nation, and my (god's) wrath fell upon the evil devil savages and the chosen rose to the top! See, i invented a 'bible' verse using usa history. OMG! it must mean theres such a thing as gods! Religitards. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 289526 United States 08/28/2007 11:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Can We Trust The Bible? Startling Archeological Discoveries Confirm The Truth Of The Word Of God God's inspired message to man. Scientific evidences to prove it!!! Matthew Maury (1806-1873) is considered the father of oceanography. His wife was reading a portion of the Bible to him. While listening, he noticed the expression "paths of the sea" in Psalms 8:8. Upon his recovery, Maury took God at his word and went look ing for these paths. We are indebted to his discovery of the warm and cold continental currents. His book on oceanography is still considered a basic text on the subject and is still used in universities. Maury used the Bible as a guide to scientific discovery. If only more would use the Bible as a guide in their personal lives! You may be surprised to learn that the Bible revealed that the earth is round. Job 26:10, Prov 8:27, Isaiah 40:22, Amos 9:6. Today, we chuckle at the people of the fifteenth century who feared sailing because they thought they would fall over the edge of the flat earth. Yet the Bible revealed the truth in 1000 B.C. 2500 years before man discovered it for himself! But a skeptic will say, "Everyone knows the Bible was written by men! The book of 1 Corinthians, for example, was written by a man named Paul. After all, the very first verse bears his name as the author." In reply to this we answer: "Yes, 1 Corinthians was written by Paul. Notice however, what Paul said in chapter 14, verse 37: "the things I write to you are the Lord's commandment." Paul knew the source of his writings and understood that he was like a pen in the hand of Almighty God. We must not view the Bible as the word of Paul, Peter, or Jeremiah, but rather, as the message God revealed through these men just as it is written in Jeremiah 1:9, Then the Lord stretched out his hand and touched my mouth, and the Lord said to me, 'behold, I have put my words in your mouth'. [link to www.bible.ca] Two of many, these writers tell of accounts they could not have had any knowledge of. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 289526 United States 08/28/2007 11:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Can We Trust The Bible? Startling Archeological Discoveries Confirm The Truth Of The Word Of God And lo! it came that the prophet columbus was led to the new world, and the people of blahtards built a nation, and my (god's) wrath fell upon the evil devil savages and the chosen rose to the top! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 272128See, i invented a 'bible' verse using usa history. OMG! it must mean theres such a thing as gods! Religitards. YOUR beliefs are retarded and you don't know history, the Spanish Conquistadors were here, for the Pope, before Columbus. You write flawed doctrine, unlike the Most Holy. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 272128 Canada 08/28/2007 11:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Can We Trust The Bible? Startling Archeological Discoveries Confirm The Truth Of The Word Of God Today, we chuckle at the people of the fifteenth century who feared sailing because they thought they would fall over the edge of the flat earth. Yet the Bible revealed the truth in 1000 B.C. 2500 years before man discovered it for himself! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 289526Actually, don't fall into the trap of assuming that western society in the dark ages (or whenever) has the ultimate word on what humanity believes. We tend to focus on them because they are the root of our current civilisation, but they werent the only ones around, by far. They believed some pretty idiotic stuff in those times, them ancesters of mine. Mostly because of the religion you hold so dearly. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 289447 China 08/28/2007 11:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Can We Trust The Bible? Startling Archeological Discoveries Confirm The Truth Of The Word Of God Historical accuracy of the bible? Pinpoint the location of Nazareth for me please. Quoting: Skeptical Texanto say you are retarded in your anal attitude is by no means a small understatement, you demand proof, sorry your not YHVH/God, so you supply evidence, archaeological evidence to prove your specious claim/s, what you are actually, is a God hater and deeply rooted in your bitterness, denial and unbelief. It may be you will live to see Revelations (and more of scripture) unfold in full detail, if so, maybe, you will maybe have a chance to repent, unless you take the mark physically, because you have already taken it spiritually and mentally, IMO. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 272128 Canada 08/28/2007 11:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Can We Trust The Bible? Startling Archeological Discoveries Confirm The Truth Of The Word Of God And lo! it came that the prophet columbus was led to the new world, and the people of blahtards built a nation, and my (god's) wrath fell upon the evil devil savages and the chosen rose to the top! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 289526See, i invented a 'bible' verse using usa history. OMG! it must mean theres such a thing as gods! Religitards. YOUR beliefs are retarded and you don't know history, the Spanish Conquistadors were here, for the Pope, before Columbus. You write flawed doctrine, unlike the Most Holy. Lol of course that wasnt accurate, that was a quick nonsense write up to prove a point, which is that anyone who knows history can write up something that sounds godly and is accurate. As for america.. technically the natives discovered it, probably a few different times from different routes, followed by viking types, and any number of random explorer/merchant boats that happened to pass that way without really knowing/caring about new worlds. The point is one should view the bible as an early history book (covering recent history anyway, the bible times are yesterday in the human timeline of millions of years) - history book colored by local beliefs of the time. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 289526 United States 08/28/2007 11:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Can We Trust The Bible? Startling Archeological Discoveries Confirm The Truth Of The Word Of God Attempts at manipulation prove a particular religion to be absolutely false. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 281483God has no need of manipulation. Who killed Jesus? The established religion of the time. These people were CERTAIN their beliefs could not possibly be wrong and therefore that made Jesus a heretic to be killed. Why do we repeat such a mentality today? I am not against the true Christianity that recognizes God in everyone. I oppose the false Christianists that attempt to manipulate other humans. You think we do not know you manipulate. Here's what you just said..."because there is sin there is no God". The Pharisees were in sin, all were in sin in need of a saviour for the wages of sin are death. There is only one God, God's people killed him. Not, "The established religion of the time", but the religion from the beginning, God's people, as opposed to the pagan followers of Satan. Further on "manipulating other humans", to prevent this the Father gave us His written preserved Word. Satan and his minions have historically manipulated the Word even banning it's very possession. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 289447 China 08/28/2007 11:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Can We Trust The Bible? Startling Archeological Discoveries Confirm The Truth Of The Word Of God And lo! it came that the prophet columbus was led to the new world, and the people of blahtards built a nation, and my (god's) wrath fell upon the evil devil savages and the chosen rose to the top! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 272128See, i invented a 'bible' verse using usa history. OMG! it must mean theres such a thing as gods! Religitards. YOUR beliefs are retarded and you don't know history, the Spanish Conquistadors were here, for the Pope, before Columbus. You write flawed doctrine, unlike the Most Holy. Lol of course that wasnt accurate, that was a quick nonsense write up to prove a point, which is that anyone who knows history can write up something that sounds godly and is accurate. As for america.. technically the natives discovered it, probably a few different times from different routes, followed by viking types, and any number of random explorer/merchant boats that happened to pass that way without really knowing/caring about new worlds. The point is one should view the bible as an early history book (covering recent history anyway, the bible times are yesterday in the human timeline of millions of years) - history book colored by local beliefs of the time. got news for you , go on then prove this millions of years lie, and don't paste quotes or references to others opinions of their interpretation of the facts, or what others claim are interpretations of so called science facts. post the real data that proves your claim. I will give you a hint, you wont be able to because there is no such evidence, and yes archaeological dating in support of paleontological dating and visa versa is circular reasoning and not valid. And the Universe, i await the evidence you will supply, yes the physical data that proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that billions of years are involve, please sincerely, go ahead and prove me wrong. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 289526 United States 08/28/2007 11:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Can We Trust The Bible? Startling Archeological Discoveries Confirm The Truth Of The Word Of God Today, we chuckle at the people of the fifteenth century who feared sailing because they thought they would fall over the edge of the flat earth. Yet the Bible revealed the truth in 1000 B.C. 2500 years before man discovered it for himself! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 272128Actually, don't fall into the trap of assuming that western society in the dark ages (or whenever) has the ultimate word on what humanity believes. We tend to focus on them because they are the root of our current civilisation, but they werent the only ones around, by far. They believed some pretty idiotic stuff in those times, them ancesters of mine. Mostly because of the religion you hold so dearly. Depends on what you call the beginnings of western society. God's Word did not go to the gentile until 2000 years ago predated by the Roman Empire. Western does refer to the Roman leg that had an eastern. The first Christian Church was in England first century. Glastonbury: The First Christian Church [link to www.asis.com] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 289526 United States 08/28/2007 11:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Can We Trust The Bible? Startling Archeological Discoveries Confirm The Truth Of The Word Of God After all, mankind has been around in one form or an other for a couple million years. We have likely come up with every possible piece of nonsense to explain away the world that you can think of. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 272128There you go off into your pagan fantasy religion taught to you by the government, nazi government, yet you tell me mine is retarded. There was no millions of years. [link to www.johnpratt.com] [link to www.johnpratt.com] I provide these links for your benefit, it is not my job to prove your baseless claims and outright delusions. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 209736 United Kingdom 08/28/2007 12:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Can We Trust The Bible? Startling Archeological Discoveries Confirm The Truth Of The Word Of God Why do bears eat people if the bible says we are greater than them. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 284342LOL One of the best questions this year! The following thread does not have THAT answer, but it is a great place to begin your investigation of the evidence: [link to godlikeproductions.com] |
Dr Dre User ID: 5755 United Kingdom 08/28/2007 12:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Can We Trust The Bible? Startling Archeological Discoveries Confirm The Truth Of The Word Of God After all, mankind has been around in one form or an other for a couple million years. We have likely come up with every possible piece of nonsense to explain away the world that you can think of. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 289526There you go off into your pagan fantasy religion taught to you by the government, nazi government, yet you tell me mine is retarded. There was no millions of years. [link to www.johnpratt.com] [link to www.johnpratt.com] I provide these links for your benefit, it is not my job to prove your baseless claims and outright delusions. If you believe the claptrap on that website you are the deluded one. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 209736 United Kingdom 08/29/2007 10:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Can We Trust The Bible? Startling Archeological Discoveries Confirm The Truth Of The Word Of God And lo! it came that the prophet columbus was led to the new world, and the people of blahtards built a nation, and my (god's) wrath fell upon the evil devil savages and the chosen rose to the top! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 289447See, i invented a 'bible' verse using usa history. OMG! it must mean theres such a thing as gods! Religitards. YOUR beliefs are retarded and you don't know history, the Spanish Conquistadors were here, for the Pope, before Columbus. You write flawed doctrine, unlike the Most Holy. Lol of course that wasnt accurate, that was a quick nonsense write up to prove a point, which is that anyone who knows history can write up something that sounds godly and is accurate. As for america.. technically the natives discovered it, probably a few different times from different routes, followed by viking types, and any number of random explorer/merchant boats that happened to pass that way without really knowing/caring about new worlds. The point is one should view the bible as an early history book (covering recent history anyway, the bible times are yesterday in the human timeline of millions of years) - history book colored by local beliefs of the time. got news for you , go on then prove this millions of years lie, and don't paste quotes or references to others opinions of their interpretation of the facts, or what others claim are interpretations of so called science facts. post the real data that proves your claim. I will give you a hint, you wont be able to because there is no such evidence, and yes archaeological dating in support of paleontological dating and visa versa is circular reasoning and not valid. And the Universe, i await the evidence you will supply, yes the physical data that proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that billions of years are involve, please sincerely, go ahead and prove me wrong. We are not talking about the age of the universe. We are talking about how long man has been around. Two totally different questions. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 290333 Switzerland 08/29/2007 11:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Can We Trust The Bible? Startling Archeological Discoveries Confirm The Truth Of The Word Of God Startling Archeological Discoveries Quoting: 90848 (M) 246619by Grant R. Jeffrey ...... This article is continued here: [link to www.grantjeffrey.com] The link you give is to a religious (Christian) web site, and not to any kind of archaeological or scientific sources. Christians (like the one whose web site you are promoting) embrace science only if and when it serves their religious purposes to do so. In claiming that any discovery supports their claims, Christians pick and choose carefully among the data. In doing so, the Christians almost always stray from the truth. Scientific method requires that claims (hypotheses) be falsifiable. Religious fanatics start from the proposition that nothing biblical is subject to falsification. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 246619 United Kingdom 08/30/2007 05:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Can We Trust The Bible? Startling Archeological Discoveries Confirm The Truth Of The Word Of God Startling Archeological Discoveries Quoting: Anonymous Coward 290333by Grant R. Jeffrey ...... This article is continued here: [link to www.grantjeffrey.com] The link you give is to a religious (Christian) web site, and not to any kind of archaeological or scientific sources. Christians (like the one whose web site you are promoting) embrace science only if and when it serves their religious purposes to do so. In claiming that any discovery supports their claims, Christians pick and choose carefully among the data. In doing so, the Christians almost always stray from the truth. Scientific method requires that claims (hypotheses) be falsifiable. Religious fanatics start from the proposition that nothing biblical is subject to falsification. The link is to an article by one of the greatest scholars of our time. Please show me how science "disproves" the Bible. Science does not "disprove" the Bible......it confirms it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 290773 United States 08/30/2007 06:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Can We Trust The Bible? Startling Archeological Discoveries Confirm The Truth Of The Word Of God Of course no none is considering that maybe Satan could've planted things for us to find as proof that it is the word of God? What i'm getting at is "is it possible" that Satan is the author of the bible? Maybe he elobarated the biggest possible hoax of humanity..w/ the intentions of actually leading us away from God? I don't know. You know even man is devious enough to plant things as false evidence to be found later? Just a thought. Some things in the bible just don't seem right w/me. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 267327 United States 08/30/2007 06:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Can We Trust The Bible? Startling Archeological Discoveries Confirm The Truth Of The Word Of God Of course no none is considering that maybe Satan could've planted things for us to find as proof that it is the word of God? What i'm getting at is "is it possible" that Satan is the author of the bible? Maybe he elobarated the biggest possible hoax of humanity..w/ the intentions of actually leading us away from God? I don't know. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 290773You know even man is devious enough to plant things as false evidence to be found later? Just a thought. Some things in the bible just don't seem right w/me. First of all, I think you have it backwards. I think you are on to something but just a little off. Let's try this out and see how it holds. Let's say I am Satan, knowing full well what God's plan is, and also knowing full well that I will lose in the end. I know that I will have dominion over this world because of mans fallacy. In order to get back at God what would I do? In all my jealousy and hate, what would I do to get at God? I would try like hell (no pun) to get as many of His precious people as I can to rebuke Him. I would create hordes of lies. I would create religious systems that are familiar with His, I will do WHATEVER it takes to take down his precious with me. |
DanG User ID: 236551 United States 08/30/2007 06:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Can We Trust The Bible? Startling Archeological Discoveries Confirm The Truth Of The Word Of God Since the bible was writen by men, from or around the time frames involved, or based on the local mythos and history of areas involved, of course it will have archeological positives. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 272128Doesn't mean squat as far as gods and religions go. 100% Correct |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 291009 United Kingdom 08/30/2007 07:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Can We Trust The Bible? Startling Archeological Discoveries Confirm The Truth Of The Word Of God Startling Archeological Discoveries Quoting: Anonymous Coward 246619by Grant R. Jeffrey ...... This article is continued here: [link to www.grantjeffrey.com] The link you give is to a religious (Christian) web site, and not to any kind of archaeological or scientific sources. Christians (like the one whose web site you are promoting) embrace science only if and when it serves their religious purposes to do so. In claiming that any discovery supports their claims, Christians pick and choose carefully among the data. In doing so, the Christians almost always stray from the truth. Scientific method requires that claims (hypotheses) be falsifiable. Religious fanatics start from the proposition that nothing biblical is subject to falsification. The link is to an article by one of the greatest scholars of our time. The link is to "Grant R. Jeffrey Ministries." That's a VERY LONG WAY from being to "one of the greatest scholars of our time." Grant R. Jeffrey is most certainly NOT "one of the greatest scholars of our time." |