Anti-malarial drugs and COVID-19 --- food for thought.... | |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77592750 United States 03/05/2020 12:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've seen a number of posts here recently referring to the use of chloroquine (and similar antimalarial meds) as possible agents to help treat COVID-19..... Quoting: Doommonkey Why, do you think, would that be effective against this particular virus? My hunch is that this thing goes inter-cellular, like the malarial-illnesses, and destroys red blood cells. That would explain the dark, nearly black blood that is being drawn from the supposedly recovered patient, that many of you have commented about. It would also help explain why the virus seems to have a second phase in which cardiac features predominate. Is there a part of this genome that has similarity to malaria? Or some other hemorrhagic fever perhaps? As someone who suffered from a malaria-like tickborne illness, I can tell you that antimalarial drugs can be pretty harsh and also not all that effective -- and that chloroquine was taken off the market for wide use for good reason. It's a risky choice, and safer rx antimalarials exist if you have access to them. When I was really sick with Babesia, my blood was dark, thick, and tarry -- just like the supposedly recovered patient. Malaria goes into remission and can relapse later.... so can babesia.... and apparently, so can COVID19. There are natural supplements that are antimalarial and are safer than chloroquine, if anyone is seriously considering self medicating. Artemisinin, Cryptolepis, Quina (an herb from which quinine was derived) Andrographis.... I have no insider info to offer, no uncle-intel, not even a bioscience background ... just the perspective of someone who has been fighting against a cluster of chronic tickborne diseases, and who has done a lot of reading on treatment. This was posted on 2/5 in the Solar Watch Thread. Page 3009 February 05, 2020 at 02:05:41 Quoting: Cosmo888 GAMMA RAY BURST 02-05A-20 Southern Hemisphere Constellation Pyxis (the Mariner's Compass) HAHAHAHA....the cure....{ Buxine is a steroid alkaloid obtained from the Buxus sempervirens, or common box tree. Buxine is identical to the much more well known 'berberine', present in Berberis vulgaris (common Barberry), also identical with bebeerine. Buxine is renown for its efficiency in easing illnesses with prominent fevers, and recommended as a substitute for quinine for treating malaria.} |
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(OP) User ID: 77887360 United States 03/05/2020 12:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks for reading and discussing. Malaria and babesia (as well as g6pd deficiency) can cause hemolytic anemia, which is no joke. AC may be on to something. Looks like freedom but it feels like death. It's something in between I guess... it's closing time. Lenonard Cohen |
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(OP) User ID: 77887360 United States 03/05/2020 01:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Also, yes ... berberine! I forgot to mention that one, but it is not only antimalarial, it is also a very potent antibacterial compound. I've been taking it for a while now. I think this virus probably requires treatment from a number of different angles (just like Lyme and coinfections does) --- treating the different components that appear to be contained within one pathogen this time around, rather than a cocktail of them.... Looks like freedom but it feels like death. It's something in between I guess... it's closing time. Lenonard Cohen |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77389039 United States 03/05/2020 01:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sardinia island has a very large population carring different degrees of g6pd because of malaria history. it will be interesting to see as it spread in italy how it affects sardinia. Obviously a lot more regions have g6pd genes in the Mediterranean area and africa. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77389039 United States 03/05/2020 01:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | well it seems to not be protective at all...but still eonder if a g6pd taking antioxidants would score better. . In addition, viral particle production of G6PD-deficient cells determined by plaque assay was much higher than that of normal controls. G6PD-deficient cells were 6 and 12 fold higher in viral production than normal counterparts in fibroblasts and A549 cells at 24h post-infection, respectively. Furthermore, viral replication in G6PD-deficient cells as determined by Q-PCR was found to be 3 fold higher than normal control after approximately 10h of incubation. Taken together, these preliminary data support our hypothesis that enhanced oxidative stress in host cells renders these cells more susceptible to human coronavirus 229E infection than control cells. |
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User ID: 80727864 United States 12/03/2021 11:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | watch because anti malaria drugs can mess you up. you will kill every good bacteria in your body. trust me. not cool. plus if you get something like mefloquine or taffiquine good luck not getting brain damage or killing yourself. they military has used these drugs for the side effects and many died due to it. just be careful no shill a poisoned vet just not wanting people to jump in and do research on whatever they put into their body |