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Notes from an 'Alternate Universe': The Return of the Blue Kachina

 
Jestis  (OP)

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Why the 5G edits?

Is it true that Wuhan and Milan both are 5g hotspots?

What are your thoughts on this tech and it’s relationship to the virus and it’s propogation?

Personally, I think the numbers they are reporting are totally unreliable and grossly underestimated. Reported doesn’t translate to what’s actually happening. It’s like they are so zoomed in, like a macro photograph, can’t see the totality of the picture as it rests in relationship to the reality that surrounds it.

Im interested to hear your thoughts. Thanks.
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

The WHO is not classifying this as a pandemic. The metafiction is that it's about pandemic bonds (even though the WHO benefits tremendously if it declares such).

The real question is whether or not it is classified as an epidemic. Or, just an outbreak of disease.

What is disease? What is an outbreak?

Could radiation sickness be an outbreak of disease?

Could under-reporting be metafiction? Could it actually be over-reporting?

Regardless, we generally prefer to be told what something is rather than figuring it out for ourselves. Right now the appropriate authorities are saying it is such-and-such, so that's how most will think of it.

Whatever is going on now, people are letting it happen and will continue to do so. We are this far into the logical narrative and it would take a black swan event to bring us out of it.

Through fear, populations can be controlled.

If people found out that the virus was actually a glass of juice, for example, then what would they do about it? They will continue to drink it happily while saying to themselves, "So what?" Such is the world that we are now in. Not everyone would make that choice, of course.
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Why does the dream world validity appear to disappear when its just as valid as waking reality?

What approach could one take to realize the stars are still shining even though the sun is hogging the shine.
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Why does the dream world validity appear to disappear when its just as valid as waking reality?
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If we take the example of a series of numbers and counted from 1 to 100, the earlier numbers would appear to 'disappear' or be further away than later numbers. All are still there at the same time, of course, but from the current perspective they may be closer or further away.

So when we make the dream world more relative, then it re-appears from the direction that we're coming from (waking). We make it more relative by falling asleep, for example, or daydreaming.

The two worlds can be MERGED by doing more dream-like things in waking reality. This is happening on a mass scale (with social and political events, for example) and individually we are also experiencing it.

If you introduced dream-like elements into your waking reality you are strengthening the bridge to the dream world just as you do when you lay down, close your eyes, and start focusing on dream-like thoughts. Of course, we do this every day and call it sleeping.

You could have the same experience while in the waking state, though if your mind isn't strong it could make you feel a bit crazy. That's why the transition is very slow takes generations. Everything needs to be changed, not just one aspect of waking life.

What approach could one take to realize the stars are still shining even though the sun is hogging the shine.
 Quoting: SpawnX

There's no need for the stars to shine if you don't see them shine. That would be a tremendous amount of energy being wasted, because your perspective would need to render everything it isn't experiencing.

The capability is there, like an algorithm, to 'render' the stars' shine when needed.
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Have you ever moved into a house in your dreams?
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Like through a wall?


Do you have a neighborhood? Or neighbors? A job in them?
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Not in a suburban sense. As the crow flies. Lol

A job in them?......how do you mean?
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If you introduced dream-like elements into your waking reality you are strengthening the bridge to the dream world just as you do when you lay down, close your eyes, and start focusing on dream-like thoughts. Of course, we do this every day and call it sleeping.

You could have the same experience while in the waking state, though if your mind isn't strong it could make you feel a bit crazy. That's why the transition is very slow takes generations. Everything needs to be changed, not just one aspect of waking life.

 Quoting: Jestis


Training wheels for introducing dream-like elements in waking state would be to practice Code of Kosmosis I assume.

Interacting with you / your material would be introducing a dream-like element.

I have a daydream tied to tagging a symbol in an old work environment to generate LoLs. I have a sense if i was to complete that mission I would be completing a missing piece in my daydream perspective.

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I sense you are holding back on 'The Return' narrative i expect you to pop off looking forward to it. popcorn
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The WHO is not classifying this as a pandemic. The metafiction is that it's about pandemic bonds (even though the WHO benefits tremendously if it declares such).

The real question is whether or not it is classified as an epidemic. Or, just an outbreak of disease.

What is disease? What is an outbreak?

Could radiation sickness be an outbreak of disease?

Could under-reporting be metafiction? Could it actually be over-reporting?

Regardless, we generally prefer to be told what something is rather than figuring it out for ourselves. Right now the appropriate authorities are saying it is such-and-such, so that's how most will think of it.

Whatever is going on now, people are letting it happen and will continue to do so. We are this far into the logical narrative and it would take a black swan event to bring us out of it.

Through fear, populations can be controlled.

If people found out that the virus was actually a glass of juice, for example, then what would they do about it? They will continue to drink it happily while saying to themselves, "So what?" Such is the world that we are now in. Not everyone would make that choice, of course.
 Quoting: Jestis


So, just watch as the logical narrative unfolds? Into what?

The noise is dense with this one.
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I sense you are holding back on 'The Return' narrative i expect you to pop off looking forward to it. popcorn
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Oddest first post of a thread, ever!!!!
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Have you ever moved into a house in your dreams?
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Like through a wall?
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

No. I mean do say, do you have a place to live in your dream world? Do you have a home?

Do you have a neighborhood? Or neighbors? A job in them?
 Quoting: Jestis


Not in a suburban sense. As the crow flies. Lol

A job in them?......how do you mean?
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

What is your identity when you're dreaming? Any routines, jobs, friends, etc.?

Or would you say it's just random?
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If you introduced dream-like elements into your waking reality you are strengthening the bridge to the dream world just as you do when you lay down, close your eyes, and start focusing on dream-like thoughts. Of course, we do this every day and call it sleeping.

You could have the same experience while in the waking state, though if your mind isn't strong it could make you feel a bit crazy. That's why the transition is very slow takes generations. Everything needs to be changed, not just one aspect of waking life.

 Quoting: Jestis

Training wheels for introducing dream-like elements in waking state would be to practice Code of Kosmosis I assume.

Interacting with you / your material would be introducing a dream-like element.

I have a daydream tied to tagging a symbol in an old work environment to generate LoLs. I have a sense if i was to complete that mission I would be completing a missing piece in my daydream perspective.
 Quoting: SpawnX

That's a good start. By dreaming, we explore what is outside our usual (waking) perspective.

We can do that in the waking state at any time.

The Code of Ecsys

House of Orbia - Respect the logic of others. Try to understand whatever you resist. Exercise ‘unlogic’ by asking yourself, “How could I be wrong?”

House of Kosmosis - Explore what is outside of your usual perspective. Do things you would not ordinarily do.

House of Chaos - Be honest with the people and things around you. The more transparent you are the more you are connecting with your perceptions.

House of ThohT - Make your thoughts and desires physical in a small way. Symbolize your internal reality in your physical reality.
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I sense you are holding back on 'The Return' narrative i expect you to pop off looking forward to it. popcorn
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I've been holding back for years lol

I think there's about 300 or so more days for that kind of thing. Right now it's not necessary, but by then I may be a completely different person.

Just watching it unfold, myself.
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[quote=Jestis]House of Chaos - Be honest with the people and things around you. The more transparent you are the more you are connecting with your perceptions.

This would be for me then, giving the current song I am listening to a lot:



“That is why / I just can’t go on and live this lie”
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The WHO is not classifying this as a pandemic. The metafiction is that it's about pandemic bonds (even though the WHO benefits tremendously if it declares such).

The real question is whether or not it is classified as an epidemic. Or, just an outbreak of disease.

What is disease? What is an outbreak?

Could radiation sickness be an outbreak of disease?

Could under-reporting be metafiction? Could it actually be over-reporting?

Regardless, we generally prefer to be told what something is rather than figuring it out for ourselves. Right now the appropriate authorities are saying it is such-and-such, so that's how most will think of it.

Whatever is going on now, people are letting it happen and will continue to do so. We are this far into the logical narrative and it would take a black swan event to bring us out of it.

Through fear, populations can be controlled.

If people found out that the virus was actually a glass of juice, for example, then what would they do about it? They will continue to drink it happily while saying to themselves, "So what?" Such is the world that we are now in. Not everyone would make that choice, of course.
 Quoting: Jestis


So, just watch as the logical narrative unfolds? Into what?

The noise is dense with this one.
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

Your perspective is the logical narrative.

You tell me... what comes next?
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I sense you are holding back on 'The Return' narrative i expect you to pop off looking forward to it. popcorn
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Oddest first post of a thread, ever!!!!
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You have new messages!

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So.. what's new in your world?
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Everything, lately everyday feels new. Is this feeling sustainable? Welcome!! Inferno news is just the level of spice I like. More, please.

You said if you think things are crazy now...
Just how crazy can things get without any participation in the drama? Would it just dissipate eventually? I'm all for entertainment part, but that's about it.
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The WHO is not classifying this as a pandemic. The metafiction is that it's about pandemic bonds (even though the WHO benefits tremendously if it declares such).

The real question is whether or not it is classified as an epidemic. Or, just an outbreak of disease.

What is disease? What is an outbreak?

Could radiation sickness be an outbreak of disease?

Could under-reporting be metafiction? Could it actually be over-reporting?

Regardless, we generally prefer to be told what something is rather than figuring it out for ourselves. Right now the appropriate authorities are saying it is such-and-such, so that's how most will think of it.

Whatever is going on now, people are letting it happen and will continue to do so. We are this far into the logical narrative and it would take a black swan event to bring us out of it.

Through fear, populations can be controlled.

If people found out that the virus was actually a glass of juice, for example, then what would they do about it? They will continue to drink it happily while saying to themselves, "So what?" Such is the world that we are now in. Not everyone would make that choice, of course.
 Quoting: Jestis


So, just watch as the logical narrative unfolds? Into what?

The noise is dense with this one.
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

Your perspective is the logical narrative.

You tell me... what comes next?
 Quoting: Jestis


Honestly, for me, as I focus on my immediate, quiet life: more of the same.

As I zoom out and focus on the general direction:

Massive wealth transfer as is happening again right now.
Misinformation/Disinformation
Loss of rights
More political shenanigans
The outbreak in America intensifies. Along with the fear. And disinformation.
...

Off the top of my head!!!!
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I sense you are holding back on 'The Return' narrative i expect you to pop off looking forward to it. popcorn
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Oddest first post of a thread, ever!!!!
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You have new messages!

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I love waking up to new messages! ;)
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Hello. This is the phone mail system. You have new messages:

... That's why the transition is very slow takes generations. Everything needs to be changed, not just one aspect of waking life. [78157702]
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How many generations deep are we?
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The WHO is not classifying this as a pandemic. The metafiction is that it's about pandemic bonds (even though the WHO benefits tremendously if it declares such).

The real question is whether or not it is classified as an epidemic. Or, just an outbreak of disease.

What is disease? What is an outbreak?

Could radiation sickness be an outbreak of disease?

Could under-reporting be metafiction? Could it actually be over-reporting?

Regardless, we generally prefer to be told what something is rather than figuring it out for ourselves. Right now the appropriate authorities are saying it is such-and-such, so that's how most will think of it.

Whatever is going on now, people are letting it happen and will continue to do so. We are this far into the logical narrative and it would take a black swan event to bring us out of it.

Through fear, populations can be controlled.

If people found out that the virus was actually a glass of juice, for example, then what would they do about it? They will continue to drink it happily while saying to themselves, "So what?" Such is the world that we are now in. Not everyone would make that choice, of course.
 Quoting: Jestis


So, just watch as the logical narrative unfolds? Into what?

The noise is dense with this one.
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

Your perspective is the logical narrative.

You tell me... what comes next?
 Quoting: Jestis


My narrative is:
The Corona virus turns out to be sort of a flu epidemic like there is every year. It will phase out in spring. The end.
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So.. what's new in your world?
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Everything, lately everyday feels new. Is this feeling sustainable? Welcome!! Inferno news is just the level of spice I like. More, please.
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A new way of looking at things, perhaps? A fresh perspective? It doesn't mean an immediately beneficial one, of course, but it could have some benefits.

You said if you think things are crazy now...
Just how crazy can things get without any participation in the drama?
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You are wholly participating in your perspective. You are the source.

The drama is there for you to (eventually) figure out that it is entirely who and what you are.

...and that it can be changed in an instant by thinking of yourself differently.

Would it just dissipate eventually? I'm all for entertainment part, but that's about it.
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The craziness? Yes, if you look at it differently. Is it craziness?

Approaching it as entertainment is a good start, in the grand sense of things. Can you somehow enjoy the craziness?

We are at the stage now where we feel for the characters on the drama. This is fine, but we forget that it is on stage.

I'm all for entertainment part, but that's about it.
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That's pretty much all there is.

Something to keep us busy, which supports existence. Without all of the busy-ness, there'd be no relationships and nothing with which we can interact with.

Make strong relationships if you want to 'quiet down' the drama. This we can learn from our ancestors. (Much of the dramas in our history are completely fabricated.)
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Welcome back!

I noticed someone else became the placeholder and now, we're all back, lol!
AKA: U3
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Your perspective is the logical narrative.

You tell me... what comes next?
 Quoting: Jestis


Honestly, for me, as I focus on my immediate, quiet life: more of the same.

As I zoom out and focus on the general direction:

Massive wealth transfer as is happening again right now.
Misinformation/Disinformation
Loss of rights
More political shenanigans
The outbreak in America intensifies. Along with the fear. And disinformation.
...

Off the top of my head!!!!
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

Would you say that your understanding of things has increased over the years as other things have become more chaotic?

(Like a balancing, I suppose.)

At just about any time in America's history you have the following:

-Massive wealth transfer
-Misinformation/Disinformation
-Loss of rights
-More political shenanigans
-The outbreak in America intensifies. Along with the fear. And disinformation.

"Now' seems more important than "then" but pretty much the same things are happening.
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Your perspective is the logical narrative.

You tell me... what comes next?
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Honestly, for me, as I focus on my immediate, quiet life: more of the same.

As I zoom out and focus on the general direction:

Massive wealth transfer as is happening again right now.
Misinformation/Disinformation
Loss of rights
More political shenanigans
The outbreak in America intensifies. Along with the fear. And disinformation.
...

Off the top of my head!!!!
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

Would you say that your understanding of things has increased over the years as other things have become more chaotic?

(Like a balancing, I suppose.)
 Quoting: Jestis


I would. For sure. Mostly my understanding of myself.

At just about any time in America's history you have the following:

-Massive wealth transfer
-Misinformation/Disinformation
-Loss of rights
-More political shenanigans
-The outbreak in America intensifies. Along with the fear. And disinformation.

"Now' seems more important than "then" but pretty much the same things are happening.
 Quoting: Jestis


So, it’s a pattern. But, now is when I’m alive, experiencing it!

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Hello. This is the phone mail system. You have new messages:

... That's why the transition is very slow takes generations. Everything needs to be changed, not just one aspect of waking life. [78157702]
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How many generations deep are we?
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

Twelve down, one more to go.
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Hey Jestis am looking for insight on future stuffs.

If I was to predict an event I would try to leverage something in your reality to make it happen that way.

I am curious how you would approach predicting a Championship world title fight before the fight starts. Eeny, meeny, money, moe.

Does a fight event take play in a series like 1-100? 1 being pre-fight conference 100 being post fight conference.

Do all the results of the fight event 2-99 already exist before they unfold to the current perspective? If yes what would that mean.

I understand the importance of process than just the event finale.

Would one look for themselves in a fighter, which one seems more relative to my experience?

And even if the sport isnt pure and AOC at play one could still call it as it is before finale?

I tend to look for narratives, symbolism, number patterns, things that I interpret that make sense to myself.

And what could be some dream-like things too look for? I suppose it may be all relative. For example I dreamt I was point of view of a main event fighter and he won in the dream and then in reality.

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Hello. This is the phone mail system. You have new messages:

... That's why the transition is very slow takes generations. Everything needs to be changed, not just one aspect of waking life. [78157702]
 Quoting: Jestis


How many generations deep are we?
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

Twelve down, one more to go.
 Quoting: Jestis


The one we are living in now?

So we’re approaching the point where everything’s changed? Inverted? Right side up?

Like the light in the distance isn’t so distant anymore?
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I'm sorry, you don't sound at all like the original Chaol.
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Maybe I got so "woke" I realized you were full of shit! Or you weren't full of shit years ago but now you're someone else who took over your account and is a pretender.

I don't understand how anyone following you earlier on could not see through you now.
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Hello. This is the phone mail system. You have new messages:

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Jestis, Warm greeting!

Have you randomly chosen a date for starting communication with us 02.02.2020? Reminds me behind the looking glass.

I would be grateful for the answer.
razvitie





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